The Voting Fraud That Changed History

 

Some people on this site are downplaying the risk from voting fraud. I thought it would be useful to review the notorious 1948 senate primary in Texas. Lyndon Johnson narrowly lost a previous primary in 1941. The 1948 race was an all or nothing gamble for his political ambitions. Six days after the election a box was discovered with the ballots that won him the race. It’s surprising that Prescott Bush didn’t congratulate his opponent the day before on his victory. But the win resulted in a sure victory in the fall elections given the democratic dominance in Texas at that time. Without the fraud, Johnson would not have become President. There probably would have not been a war in Vietnam or the Great Society programs. Future Supreme Court Justice Abe Fortas helped ensure that the ballots were not scrutinized. Yes, history changed in the 20th century as a result of this fraud. Let’s help ensure that doesn’t happen this year from last week’s fraud.

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  1. RightAngles Member
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    I couldn’t agree more, and anyone who actually thinks there’s even a question that this election was the result of voter fraud on a massive scale is not paying attention. I mean they didn’t even try that hard to be discreet, and that fact alone ought to be a huge alarm bell. Wake up. This must not be allowed to stand.

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  2. DonG (skeptic) Coolidge
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    Another interesting story from the same time period is Battle of Athens.   Returning WWII vets took up arms against corrupt machine in Tennessee.  The cops were literally shaking down citizens and passers-through for whatever they had in the pockets.  The vets initially tried an electoral fix, but one of their voters was murdered by the cops and it was game on.

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  3. James Gawron Inactive
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    Richard,

    Now we are seeing the real Democratic Party. That political party has always smelled to high heaven. Their high born rhetoric is only to camouflage the eugenic mentality as its core philosophy and ordinary corruption & fraud as the standard operating procedure in Democratic party activities.

    If you don’t watch those ballots boxes like a Rabbi, what will happen won’t be kosher. You can rest assured of it.

    Regards,

    Jim

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  4. JamesSalerno Inactive
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    @JamesSalerno

    “Landslide Lyndon” is another media lie that has been repeated so many times, most people think it’s true.

    Coke Stevenson wised up after that and became a Goldwater and Nixon supporter.

    LBJ has a lot in common with Biden.

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  5. Richard Easton Coolidge
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    JamesSalerno (View Comment):

    “Landslide Lyndon” is another media lie that has been repeated so many times, most people think it’s true.

    Coke Stevenson wised up after that and became a Goldwater and Nixon supporter.

    LBJ has a lot in common with Biden.

    Thanks for mentioning that nickname for LBJ. It was a sarcastic term. LBJ “won” by 87 votes out of 988K.

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  6. JamesSalerno Inactive
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    Richard Easton (View Comment):

    JamesSalerno (View Comment):

    “Landslide Lyndon” is another media lie that has been repeated so many times, most people think it’s true.

    Coke Stevenson wised up after that and became a Goldwater and Nixon supporter.

    LBJ has a lot in common with Biden.

    It was a sarcastic term. LBJ “won” by 87 votes out of 988K.

    I’m pretty sure it was used (favorably) in LBJ’s presidency. Was it used in 1948, or was that historical revision as a result of the Caro biographies? 

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  7. Richard Easton Coolidge
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    JamesSalerno (View Comment):

    Richard Easton (View Comment):

    JamesSalerno (View Comment):

    “Landslide Lyndon” is another media lie that has been repeated so many times, most people think it’s true.

    Coke Stevenson wised up after that and became a Goldwater and Nixon supporter.

    LBJ has a lot in common with Biden.

    It was a sarcastic term. LBJ “won” by 87 votes out of 988K.

    I’m pretty sure it was used (favorably) in LBJ’s presidency. Was it used in 1948, or was that historical revision as a result of the Caro biographies?

    It appears that LBJ sometimes used it. I thought others used it sarcastically during his lifetime but I’m now not sure. My dad suggested inviting LBJ to celebrate the completion of a Texas station in the Naval Space Surveillance System. A Texan responded that this would ensure that a lot fewer people would attend (because so many people couldn’t stand LBJ).

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  8. Freeven Member
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    RightAngles (View Comment):

    I couldn’t agree more, and anyone who actually thinks there’s even a question that this election was the result of voter fraud on a massive scale is not paying attention. I mean they didn’t even try that hard to be discreet, and that fact alone ought to be a huge alarm bell. Wake up. This must not be allowed to stand.

    I’d say the bolded statement roughly describes me, though I would add that I have been paying attention. I’m convinced that fraud played a part in the election. I don’t know how massive it was, and I don’t know if it was enough to change the result. (Perhaps Biden would have won without it; perhaps Trump will still win in spite of it.) I’m trying to evaluate each case based on whatever evidence is available, so I can get a clearer picture of what actually happened on election day. (Some cases look like fraud to me; others do not.) I think that’s the responsible approach, and while I’m angry and frustrated with the fraud I do see, I’m trying to resist the all too human urge to declare the whole election illegitimate because I’m unhappy with the (likely) result. So I’m (mildly) offended by demands that I “Wake up.” I said before the election that it’s quite possible that we will never actually know who the American people elected. I’d now upgrade possible to likely

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  9. Guruforhire Inactive
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    Why did Hugo Black end the investigation?  That seems suspicious.

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  10. Jon1979 Inactive
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    Duval County in far South Texas, was the county in question, with the mystery ballot box that flipped the election to LBJ. One of the hardest-core Democratic counties in Texas, even though the modern era, though the numbers for 2016 vs. 2020 looked like this:

    2016

    Clinton 2,783 (66.9%)

    Trump 1,316 (31.9%)

    2020

    Biden 2,573 (51%)

    Trump 2,442 (48.4%)

    So Biden won the Latino-majority county. But he lost over 200 votes off Clinton’s 2016 total, while Trump gained over 1,100 votes thanks to the increased turnout. It was the huge reduction in the gap between Trump and Biden in Latino majority counties that allowed Trump to offset both losses of suburbanites around deep Blue cities and some possible voting chicanery in those deep Blue cities (especially Houston/Harris County) and win Texas by six points.

    (The other thing worth noting if who controls the state government in the recount states. The states with the biggest sudden surges of ballots towards Biden have all been states where the Democrats control both the state and local jurisdictions where the ballots are being found, and in numbers that would put the found ballots for LBJ in Duval County back in 1948 to shame.)

     

     

     

     

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  11. PHCheese Inactive
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    DonG (skeptic) (View Comment):

    Another interesting story from the same time period is Battle of Athens. Returning WWII vets took up arms against corrupt machine in Tennessee. The cops were literally shaking down citizens and passers-through for whatever they had in the pockets. The vets initially tried an electoral fix, but one of their voters was murdered by the cops and it was game on.

    What a great story about Athens Tennessee. Thank you for the link. I highly recommend it .

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  12. PHCheese Inactive
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    When I had my cheese Business I was inspected by the USDA. One of the older inspectors told me a story about LBJ. Although he was in the dairy branch he knew other inspectors from different areas of the USDA from meetings and such. The LBJ ranch was receiving money for not planting crops. I am not certain of the timeline but an inspector was sent to verify that no crops were planted. He did not return. Again I am not sure of the timeline but many years later he was found in a shallow grave on the ranch.

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  13. RightAngles Member
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    Freeven (View Comment):

    RightAngles (View Comment):

    I couldn’t agree more, and anyone who actually thinks there’s even a question that this election was the result of voter fraud on a massive scale is not paying attention. I mean they didn’t even try that hard to be discreet, and that fact alone ought to be a huge alarm bell. Wake up. This must not be allowed to stand.

    I’d say the bolded statement roughly describes me, though I would add that I have been paying attention. I’m convinced that fraud played a part in the election. I don’t know how massive it was, and I don’t know if it was enough to change the result. (Perhaps Biden would have won without it; perhaps Trump will still win in spite of it.) I’m trying to evaluate each case based on whatever evidence is available, so I can get a clearer picture of what actually happened on election day. (Some cases look like fraud to me; others do not.) I think that’s the responsible approach, and while I’m angry and frustrated with the fraud I do see, I’m trying to resist the all too human urge to declare the whole election illegitimate because I’m unhappy with the (likely) result. So I’m (mildly) offended by demands that I “Wake up.” I said before the election that it’s quite possible that we will never actually know who the American people elected. I’d now upgrade possible to likely.

    The fact that you added  “likely” shows that you don’t accept  the proposition of voter fraud. And sorry, but it also shows you have never seen the Democrats up close and personal like I have. Trump won. It isn’t even a “maybe.”  And for you to imply that I and others like me are irresponsible. Wow. I hope to God enough of us are irresponsible enough to see to it that this doesn’t go unchallenged.

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  14. JamesSalerno Inactive
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    Has anyone here read the Caro series on LBJ? I would like to check it out, however that’s an enormous time investment. And if I’m not mistaken, the series is still awaiting conclusion?

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  15. Richard Easton Coolidge
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    JamesSalerno (View Comment):

    Has anyone here read the Caro series on LBJ? I would like to check it out, however that’s an enormous time investment. And if I’m not mistaken, the series is still awaiting conclusion?

    It’s a wonderful series. I haven’t read the last one. It’s unclear if he will be able to finish it.

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  16. SParker Member
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    Richard Easton (View Comment):

    JamesSalerno (View Comment):

    Richard Easton (View Comment):

    JamesSalerno (View Comment):

    “Landslide Lyndon” is another media lie that has been repeated so many times, most people think it’s true.

    Coke Stevenson wised up after that and became a Goldwater and Nixon supporter.

    LBJ has a lot in common with Biden.

    It was a sarcastic term. LBJ “won” by 87 votes out of 988K.

    I’m pretty sure it was used (favorably) in LBJ’s presidency. Was it used in 1948, or was that historical revision as a result of the Caro biographies?

    It appears that LBJ sometimes used it. I thought others used it sarcastically during his lifetime but I’m now not sure. My dad suggested inviting LBJ to celebrate the completion of a Texas station in the Naval Space Surveillance System. A Texan responded that this would ensure that a lot fewer people would attend (because so many people couldn’t stand LBJ).

    I never heard it used other than derisively.  Hard to imagine a 0.000088% win in shady circumstances used otherwise.  Even after the genuine landslide in 1964.  We’re talking about a President who was the title character in  MacBird! in the run-up to the 1968 election.  Not well-liked,  even (or especially) in large parts of his own party.  It would, however, make sense that he used it himself, being a refreshingly brazen man.

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  17. MCP Inactive
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    I read the Caro books, they are quite good. The first one especially. 

    A very interesting fact from them was that Johnson lost his previous Senate run because he “discovered” his fake votes too early, so his opponent knew how many more to discover himself.

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  18. J. D. Fitzpatrick Member
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    RightAngles (View Comment):

    Freeven (View Comment):

    RightAngles (View Comment):

    I couldn’t agree more, and anyone who actually thinks there’s even a question that this election was the result of voter fraud on a massive scale is not paying attention. I mean they didn’t even try that hard to be discreet, and that fact alone ought to be a huge alarm bell. Wake up. This must not be allowed to stand.

    I’d say the bolded statement roughly describes me, though I would add that I have been paying attention. I’m convinced that fraud played a part in the election. I don’t know how massive it was, and I don’t know if it was enough to change the result. (Perhaps Biden would have won without it; perhaps Trump will still win in spite of it.) I’m trying to evaluate each case based on whatever evidence is available, so I can get a clearer picture of what actually happened on election day. (Some cases look like fraud to me; others do not.) I think that’s the responsible approach, and while I’m angry and frustrated with the fraud I do see, I’m trying to resist the all too human urge to declare the whole election illegitimate because I’m unhappy with the (likely) result. So I’m (mildly) offended by demands that I “Wake up.” I said before the election that it’s quite possible that we will never actually know who the American people elected. I’d now upgrade possible to likely.

    The fact that you added “likely” shows that you don’t accept the proposition of voter fraud. And sorry, but it also shows you have never seen the Democrats up close and personal like I have. Trump won. It isn’t even a “maybe.” And for you to imply that I and others like me are irresponsible. Wow. I hope to God enough of us are irresponsible enough to see to it that this doesn’t go unchallenged.

    Give him time. I get angry faster than others myself, but if we are indeed right, we should be able to find evidence for fraud that convinces him. 

    We are still early in the process. Lots of smoke, some signs of flame, but no confirmed big fire yet. 

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  19. Freeven Member
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    RightAngles (View Comment):

    Freeven (View Comment):

    RightAngles (View Comment):

    I couldn’t agree more, and anyone who actually thinks there’s even a question that this election was the result of voter fraud on a massive scale is not paying attention. I mean they didn’t even try that hard to be discreet, and that fact alone ought to be a huge alarm bell. Wake up. This must not be allowed to stand.

    I’d say the bolded statement roughly describes me, though I would add that I have been paying attention. I’m convinced that fraud played a part in the election. I don’t know how massive it was, and I don’t know if it was enough to change the result. (Perhaps Biden would have won without it; perhaps Trump will still win in spite of it.) I’m trying to evaluate each case based on whatever evidence is available, so I can get a clearer picture of what actually happened on election day. (Some cases look like fraud to me; others do not.) I think that’s the responsible approach, and while I’m angry and frustrated with the fraud I do see, I’m trying to resist the all too human urge to declare the whole election illegitimate because I’m unhappy with the (likely) result. So I’m (mildly) offended by demands that I “Wake up.” I said before the election that it’s quite possible that we will never actually know who the American people elected. I’d now upgrade possible to likely.

    The fact that you added “likely” shows that you don’t accept the proposition of voter fraud.

    Did you miss the part where I said, “I’m convinced that fraud played a part in the election”? Or the part where I said, “Some cases look like fraud to me”? Or the part where I said, “I’m angry and frustrated with the fraud I do see”? Or the part where I said, “Trump may still win in spite of it”? That’s an awful lot of me “accepting the proposition of voter fraud” in a short paragraph.

    To clarify, when I said, “I’m unhappy with the (likely) result”, I wasn’t commenting on the existence of fraud, nor on who the legitimate winner was. I was talking about the likelihood of Biden being our next president. That seems the most likely outcome at this point. 

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  20. Freeven Member
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    J. D. Fitzpatrick (View Comment):

    RightAngles (View Comment):

    Freeven (View Comment):

    RightAngles (View Comment):

    I couldn’t agree more, and anyone who actually thinks there’s even a question that this election was the result of voter fraud on a massive scale is not paying attention. I mean they didn’t even try that hard to be discreet, and that fact alone ought to be a huge alarm bell. Wake up. This must not be allowed to stand.

    I’d say the bolded statement roughly describes me, though I would add that I have been paying attention. I’m convinced that fraud played a part in the election. I don’t know how massive it was, and I don’t know if it was enough to change the result. (Perhaps Biden would have won without it; perhaps Trump will still win in spite of it.) I’m trying to evaluate each case based on whatever evidence is available, so I can get a clearer picture of what actually happened on election day. (Some cases look like fraud to me; others do not.) I think that’s the responsible approach, and while I’m angry and frustrated with the fraud I do see, I’m trying to resist the all too human urge to declare the whole election illegitimate because I’m unhappy with the (likely) result. So I’m (mildly) offended by demands that I “Wake up.” I said before the election that it’s quite possible that we will never actually know who the American people elected. I’d now upgrade possible to likely.

    The fact that you added “likely” shows that you don’t accept the proposition of voter fraud. And sorry, but it also shows you have never seen the Democrats up close and personal like I have. Trump won. It isn’t even a “maybe.” And for you to imply that I and others like me are irresponsible. Wow. I hope to God enough of us are irresponsible enough to see to it that this doesn’t go unchallenged.

    Give him time. I get angry faster than others myself, but if we are indeed right, we should be able to find evidence for fraud that convinces him.

    If you reread what I wrote (above), you’ll see that I clearly said both that I’m convinced there was fraud and that I’m angry about it.

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  21. Lois Lane Coolidge
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    Do you have the rest of the article that you posted????  I know about this, but I haven’t read this particular account.  I wanted to flip to page 14 but can’t!!!!

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  22. Ralphie Inactive
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    Freeven (View Comment):
    I’d now upgrade possible to likely

    People can be quite blind to what is obvious to others.  I have been watching the Presidential election returns since I started voting in 1976. This one was bizzare, even compared to 2000.  2000 was an open seat. This was an incumbant with just about every sign (as much as Obama, if not more) like approval, etc. pointing to a re election. The political scientist that uses the primary only was wrong since the early 1900’s with Kennedy’s and Gore v. Bush both contested, Kennedy’s probably fraudulent.

    “I can’t believe he did that, we trusted him” is what parents who trust their child with a pedo say after the guy is arrested.  Grooming of children happens right under parent’s noses. The Democrats told us how things were going to work. We went pshaw, but I’ll be, it is pretty much going to plan. 

    After Ginsburg died, the margin of fraud had to be increased if I was a Democrat who was going to tell people that without doubt we’d win.

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  23. Bucknelldad Inactive
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    @SoupGuy

    A wonderful reminder that Democrats have been practicing and perfecting voter fraud for a very long time.

    In 1985, I was a co-manager of a special election for Congress in Texas’ First District, stretching from about Paris, Texas to Texarkana and down south towards Marshall. I was working for the Republican, Edd Hargett, a Texas A&M football legend. He was opposing a slick and sleazy trial lawyer, Jim Chapman.

    Our last poll had us up 14 points, leading into a Saturday election in August. Democratic Gov. Mark Hill sent squads into the district to “ballot harvest” nursing homes, forging signatures on absentee ballot applications, and showing up again to vote en masse – all for Chapman. And much more.

    We lost by 900 votes on election day. 

    I would get my revenge later when Chapman ran against Phil Gramm for US Senate and made a false accusation about Gramm’s office spending. I was Secretary of the Senate. My office audited every Senate expenditure. I was able to put Chapman in his place. He lost and has not been heard from since. 

    1. Voter fraud is real.
    2. Vengeance is mine, sayeth the Lord. 
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