Fighting the Good Fight

 

Like most of you, I move from rage at the outcome of this election, to enormous sadness to find our country where it has arrived. These major shifts of emotions are not only debilitating to my sanity (what there is left of it), but unhelpful to the country. I am so impressed with the strategies for investigating the fraud of the election processes that many people have developed, and the ways we can fight back against the election injustices. But we can’t allow ourselves to be buried in investigations and not find a way beyond the results of this election. We must deal with the hard truth. These are my next steps.

  1. Acknowledge my outrage at the corruption, fraud and lack of allegiance to the success of this country. I have never been so invested in an election, nor have I ever feared for our future as much as I do now. At the same time, I refuse to let myself be buried under the ugliness and duplicity that has occurred. I must find a way to balance the truth with new opportunities for moving forward. This effort will be so very difficult, but I know this is the only way I can find my way out of this morass.
  2. Encourage and support every investigation of the processes and outcomes of this election. No stone should be left unturned. We should look at every state we can, study data and procedures, including those that worked well (such as several in Florida) and those that were disasters. We must find a way to shine a light on all the deplorable actions that those in charge took, whether they turned their heads away from the corruption or encouraged it. People should be solicited to report every illegal action that they witnessed, providing evidence whenever possible. And findings should be placed in the hands of the courts.
  3. Identify every weakness in every system in every state. Prioritize them in the order of most exploitative and least impactful. Since every violation might not be able to be addressed, prioritizing will be important.
  4. Develop a plan to change the election process that addresses the findings of the investigation; identify which changes would be permissible under the Constitution for the Federal government to institute, and which changes must be left with the states. Build-in processes that will ensure the integrity of the system and minimize fraud. Determine the person or governmental body that is most likely to take the investigation seriously, in terms of publicizing the results and making changes to the system. Find new and creative ways to make sure that people know the results.
  5. Acknowledge that even if there is ample evidence that the election results were significantly fraudulent, the systems in place may very well prevent changes to be made. We can fight to the end for the truth to win out, for integrity to reign, but in the current environment, we may ultimately lose.

* * * * *

So how do we as citizens, and the Republicans who are governing, move forward?

We must find a way to deal with reality. That acknowledgment does not mean that we cave in; it simply means that we stop wasting our energy on changing the facts on the ground. We demand that the Republicans only support legislation that is true to Republican principles, and fight the Left’s plans to undermine our country. If our legislators are not clear about the difference, they should be voted out of office.

And lastly, the most painful part, is that we must grieve:

We grieve that our fellow citizens were not astute enough to look beyond Trump’s personality and appreciate his accomplishments and his dedication to our future.

We grieve that we may spend the next several years fighting to preserve our free nation and the Constitution, instead of actualizing more of its potential.

We grieve that our systems are so corrupt that we couldn’t even manage an election process with all the technological tools at hand.

We grieve that the people who have worked so hard over the last five years to destroy Trump couldn’t even wait until all the votes were counted to reject him.

Or wait until justice was served.

We must do everything we can to take back our country.

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  1. Jules PA Inactive
    Jules PA
    @JulesPA

    Susan Quinn: We grieve that the people who have worked so hard over the last five years to destroy Trump couldn’t even wait until all the votes were counted to reject him.

    They couldn’t wait. Because if they had, the truth would be visible. 

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  2. Susan Quinn Contributor
    Susan Quinn
    @SusanQuinn

    Jules PA (View Comment):

    Susan Quinn: We grieve that the people who have worked so hard over the last five years to destroy Trump couldn’t even wait until all the votes were counted to reject him.

    They couldn’t wait. Because if they had, the truth would be visible.

    I don’t know if we will ever know the truth, @julespa, because people will insist on dragging out investigations or slowing down the judicial process. I wonder if the electoral college results could be reversed if miraculously we discover that Trump won?

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  3. PHCheese Inactive
    PHCheese
    @PHCheese

    Every thing you say is fine but you missed something very important. Time will become critical to arrange your financial affairs in defense of a possible Biden win.

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  4. Susan Quinn Contributor
    Susan Quinn
    @SusanQuinn

    PHCheese (View Comment):

    Every thing you say is fine but you missed something very important. Time will become critical to arrange your financial affairs in defense of a possible Biden win.

    Do you mean that literally or facetiously, @phcheese? What have you done or do you plan to do in anticipation of his actually winning?

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  5. Bob Thompson Member
    Bob Thompson
    @BobThompson

    Grieving is not something I relate to or engage in.  I said very early in this Trump Administration that the principal issue Americans face is Communism, With a capital C. There is no limit on methods. There is no objective truth.

    Susan Quinn: We must find a way to deal with the reality.

    @susanquinn, your strength lies in your words but you need to recognize that under a Communist regime there is no power in words. Action is all that works.

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  6. Susan Quinn Contributor
    Susan Quinn
    @SusanQuinn

    I hear you, @bobthompson. And dealing with the reality may call for action, too! But first, I believe we must deal with the facts on the ground and grieve our loss, so that our actions are based on necessity, not only revenge. Does that make sense?

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  7. Susan Quinn Contributor
    Susan Quinn
    @SusanQuinn

    I don’t in any way want to suggest that we must use only words to fight back. In fact, I think we need to develop new and creative ways to take action. What will we do once investigations and court cases are finished? What will we do?

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  8. PHCheese Inactive
    PHCheese
    @PHCheese

    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    PHCheese (View Comment):

    Every thing you say is fine but you missed something very important. Time will become critical to arrange your financial affairs in defense of a possible Biden win.

    Do you mean that literally or facetiously, @phcheese? What have you done or do you plan to do in anticipation of his actually winning?

    Just as an example I don’t think it would be wise to have a portfolio heavy weighed with fossil fuel stocks. We know taxes are going up so there are defenses for that. An other consideration is how will the Fed  respond to a President Biden. Is Medicare in jeopardy? Personally I will be discussing my options with my advisers next week.

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  9. Bob Thompson Member
    Bob Thompson
    @BobThompson

    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    I hear you, @bobthompson. And dealing with the reality may call for action, too! But first, I believe we must deal with the facts on the ground and grieve our loss, so that our actions are based on necessity, not only revenge. Does that make sense?

    I’m certainly glad to have gotten Justice Barrett confirmed. Let’s start this fight constitutionally and see where that goes. I have always thought that Rudy Giuliani is trustworthy. I think the reason he has been close to President Trump all along is because he knew Trump in New York for a long time and knew what kind of person Trump is. Even with the established public media and social media narratives rife with bans on information flow, President Trump far exceeded the expectations produced by that narrative. We have a full month to examine this election before the scheduled certification of electors. Little evidence of improprieties surfaces without investigation.

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  10. Susan Quinn Contributor
    Susan Quinn
    @SusanQuinn

    Bob Thompson (View Comment):

    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    I hear you, @bobthompson. And dealing with the reality may call for action, too! But first, I believe we must deal with the facts on the ground and grieve our loss, so that our actions are based on necessity, not only revenge. Does that make sense?

    I’m certainly glad to have gotten Justice Barrett confirmed. Let’s start this fight constitutionally and see where that goes. I have always thought that Rudy Giuliani is trustworthy. I think the reason he has been close to President Trump all along is because he knew Trump in New York for a long time and knew what kind of person Trump is. Even with the established public media and social media narratives rife with bans on information flow, President Trump far exceeded the expectations produced by that narrative. We have a full month to examine this election before the scheduled certification of electors. Little evidence of improprieties surfaces without investigation.

    Is it all over once the Electors certify? The election is set in stone? And I assume that Trump can only pursue investigations while he is still President, i.e., until inauguration? If someone knows the answers to these questions, I’d be grateful.

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  11. Gary Robbins Member
    Gary Robbins
    @GaryRobbins

    I think that we did not give up the country.  We held the Senate.  We increased our margin in the House.  The defeat was of a very flawed man, not conservative principles.  

    From Newsmax:

    “Senator Mitt Romney said Republican gains in down-ballot races in last week’s election were an endorsement of conservative principles, while losing the White House was ‘a referendum on a person.’

    “‘The presidential race was more a referendum on a person, and when it comes to policy we did pretty well,’ Romney said. ‘I don’t think the American people want to sign up for the Green New Deal. I don’t think they want to sign up for getting rid of coal or oil or gas.'”

    https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/mittromney-conservative-principles-biden/2020/11/08/id/995986/

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  12. Raxxalan Member
    Raxxalan
    @Raxxalan

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    I think that we did not give up the country. We held the Senate. We increased our margin in the House. The defeat was of a very flawed man, not conservative principles.

    From Newsmax:

    “Senator Mitt Romney said Republican gains in down-ballot races in last week’s election were an endorsement of conservative principles, while losing the White House was ‘a referendum on a person.’

    “‘The presidential race was more a referendum on a person, and when it comes to policy we did pretty well,’ Romney said. ‘I don’t think the American people want to sign up for the Green New Deal. I don’t think they want to sign up for getting rid of coal or oil or gas.’”

    https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/mittromney-conservative-principles-biden/2020/11/08/id/995986/

    We have not held the Senate.  We may hold the senate.  Don’t count your chickens before they are hatched.  

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  13. Chris O. Coolidge
    Chris O.
    @ChrisO

    Thanks, Susan. We may have put all our eggs in one basket, too. As we discussed previously, new candidates have been inspired in places we haven’t made much of an effort.

    It’s strange, I did feel fear in engaging on issues in public forums prior to this election. I was counting on the Prez to fight the fight for me. Now, I’m engaged in a discussion on Facebook, and being as cordial as possible, but still engaging. I wouldn’t have done that a week ago.

    So, I’m not entrusting my security to someone in a distant office anymore. Didn’t even realize I was doing it. Thanks, DJT, I needed this lesson.

    I realize this is pretty well off-topic, it was your title that inspired this response, Susan. Thanks again!

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  14. PHCheese Inactive
    PHCheese
    @PHCheese

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    I think that we did not give up the country. We held the Senate. We increased our margin in the House. The defeat was of a very flawed man, not conservative principles.

    From Newsmax:

    “Senator Mitt Romney said Republican gains in down-ballot races in last week’s election were an endorsement of conservative principles, while losing the White House was ‘a referendum on a person.’

    “‘The presidential race was more a referendum on a person, and when it comes to policy we did pretty well,’ Romney said. ‘I don’t think the American people want to sign up for the Green New Deal. I don’t think they want to sign up for getting rid of coal or oil or gas.’”

    https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/mittromney-conservative-principles-biden/2020/11/08/id/995986/

    Take my word for it. Trump carried the GOP. He only lost because of fraud not flaws. The flaws are in the mind of people with TDS

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  15. Mim526 Member
    Mim526
    @Mim526

    From the Newsmax article linked in comment #11:

    Romney said it was legitimate for President Donald Trump to pursue any irregularities in the Nov. 3 vote. “But if, as expected, those things don’t change the outcome, why, he will accept the inevitable,” Romney added.

    “I’m more concerned about the language that’s used” in describing those challenges, since inflammatory rhetoric can be seized upon by authoritarians around the world, he said.

    At this point I have had more than my fill of the GOP Mitt Romneys, who I find once again more than willing to dump on Donald Trump while failing to address the issue of either the authoritarian threats from Democrat members of Congress or the 70+ million voters whose votes have been disenfranchised by indications of probable serious voter fraud.  The man’s a businessman for Pete’s sake and well aware I’m sure of audit parameters, a seasoned politician and failed presidential candidate himself and well aware of Democrat campaign tactics.  Yet here we are once again with him holding form on his version of the vagaries of President Trump while avoiding the larger issue important to traditional American voters.

    “Referendum”, “policy”…typical GOP avoidance talking pablum about secondary issues while on primary concerns of their voters it’s either crickets (silent on Kavanaugh) or pacifiers (this voter fraud issue).

    Take Donald Trump out of the equation.  Substitute Reagan, Ike, Lincoln, Washington…any other American president as the one up for re-election.  Now take a look at the voter data this election cycle from WI, MI, PA, and GA.  Compare it to other Democrat performance, to stats in other areas like FL and OH with heavy but much more monitored mail in/absentee ballots.

    Every one of those members of Congress took an oath to uphold the Constitution of the United States, to defend it against all enemies foreign and domestic, and to well and faithfully discharge the duties of their office.  YO, GOP…TO ARMS, LARGE SCALE THUGGERY AGAINST A CONSTITUTIONAL PROCESS IN PROGRESS!

    Take heart, my Ricochet friend @susanquinn :-)

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  16. Susan Quinn Contributor
    Susan Quinn
    @SusanQuinn

    Mim526 (View Comment):
    Take heart, my Ricochet friend @susanquinn :-)

    I’m trying, @mim526, and friends like you help a great deal!

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  17. Bryan G. Stephens, Trump Avenger Thatcher
    Bryan G. Stephens, Trump Avenger
    @BryanGStephens

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    I think that we did not give up the country. We held the Senate. We increased our margin in the House. The defeat was of a very flawed man, not conservative principles.

    From Newsmax:

    “Senator Mitt Romney said Republican gains in down-ballot races in last week’s election were an endorsement of conservative principles, while losing the White House was ‘a referendum on a person.’

    “‘The presidential race was more a referendum on a person, and when it comes to policy we did pretty well,’ Romney said. ‘I don’t think the American people want to sign up for the Green New Deal. I don’t think they want to sign up for getting rid of coal or oil or gas.’”

    https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/mittromney-conservative-principles-biden/2020/11/08/id/995986/

    You were willing to sell the countyr out 

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  18. JoelB Member
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    @JoelB

    Mim526 (View Comment):
    Every one of those members of Congress took an oath to uphold the Constitution of the United States, to defend it against all enemies foreign and domestic, and to well and faithfully discharge the duties of their office. YO, GOP…TO ARMS, LARGE SCALE THUGGERY AGAINST A CONSTITUTIONAL PROCESS IN PROGRESS!

    This!

    The Congress, Supreme Court Justices, and President Donald Trump all took an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution. They are failing to do their duty if they do not undertake a serious investigation into any plausible accusation of tampering with the election. It’s not about being nice. It’s not about hurt feelings. This is for the good of the entire nation.

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  19. MarciN Member
    MarciN
    @MarciN

    Jules PA (View Comment):

    Susan Quinn: We grieve that the people who have worked so hard over the last five years to destroy Trump couldn’t even wait until all the votes were counted to reject him.

    They couldn’t wait. Because if they had, the truth would be visible.

    Wow. I bet you’re right. That makes perfect sense. 

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  20. Bob Thompson Member
    Bob Thompson
    @BobThompson

    Mim526 (View Comment):

    From the Newsmax article linked in comment #11:

    Romney said it was legitimate for President Donald Trump to pursue any irregularities in the Nov. 3 vote. “But if, as expected, those things don’t change the outcome, why, he will accept the inevitable,” Romney added.

    “I’m more concerned about the language that’s used” in describing those challenges, since inflammatory rhetoric can be seized upon by authoritarians around the world, he said.

    At this point I have had more than my fill of the GOP Mitt Romneys, who I find once again more than willing to dump on Donald Trump while failing to address the issue of either the authoritarian threats from Democrat members of Congress or the 70+ million voters whose votes have been disenfranchised by indications of probable serious voter fraud. The man’s a businessman for Pete’s sake and well aware I’m sure of audit parameters, a seasoned politician and failed presidential candidate himself and well aware of Democrat campaign tactics. Yet here we are once again with him holding form on his version of the vagaries of President Trump while avoiding the larger issue important to traditional American voters.

    “Referendum”, “policy”…typical GOP avoidance talking pablum about secondary issues while on primary concerns of their voters it’s either crickets (silent on Kavanaugh) or pacifiers (this voter fraud issue).

    Take Donald Trump out of the equation. Substitute Reagan, Ike, Lincoln, Washington…any other American president as the one up for re-election. Now take a look at the voter data this election cycle from WI, MI, PA, and GA. Compare it to other Democrat performance, to stats in other areas like FL and OH with heavy but much more monitored mail in/absentee ballots.

    Every one of those members of Congress took an oath to uphold the Constitution of the United States, to defend it against all enemies foreign and domestic, and to well and faithfully discharge the duties of their office. YO, GOP…TO ARMS, LARGE SCALE THUGGERY AGAINST A CONSTITUTIONAL PROCESS IN PROGRESS!

    Take heart, my Ricochet friend @susanquinn :-)

    There is something in the Constitution called the guarantee clause where every state is guaranteed a republican form of government. An organized infringement of the voting process in an election would fall into the same category as domestic violence within a state. An investigation is required with results presented to the Court.

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  21. Mim526 Member
    Mim526
    @Mim526

    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    Mim526 (View Comment):
    Take heart, my Ricochet friend @susanquinn :-)

    I’m trying, @mim526, and friends like you help a great deal!

    I took time today to listen to a full podcast with one of my favorite thinkers, Victor Davis Hanson.  Couple things he said toward the end stuck with me:

    “I truly believe had there been a fair vote count…according to the rules established by the state legislatures, Donald Trump won that election.”

    On the races at lower levels (Senate, House, state legislatures) where media did not have resources they leveled at great expense against President Trump, VDH was encouraged by the ‘common sense and practicality’ Americans showed. That’s encouraging to me, too.  Especially because as usual I think he is right.

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  22. Susan Quinn Contributor
    Susan Quinn
    @SusanQuinn

    Chris O. (View Comment):
    I realize this is pretty well off-topic, it was your title that inspired the response, Susan. Thanks again!

    Thank you, @chriso. I’m honored that something I said may have inspired you to act. Those of us who have people in our lives who move us to action are very special. But we are still the ones who must act. Good for you!

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  23. Jules PA Inactive
    Jules PA
    @JulesPA

    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    Jules PA (View Comment):

    Susan Quinn: We grieve that the people who have worked so hard over the last five years to destroy Trump couldn’t even wait until all the votes were counted to reject him.

    They couldn’t wait. Because if they had, the truth would be visible.

    I don’t know if we will ever know the truth, @julespa, because people will insist on dragging out investigations or slowing down the judicial process. I wonder if the electoral college results could be reversed if miraculously we discover that Trump won?

    I actually believe the result is in the hands of G-d, and that clinging to the results, is unhealthy, and not in our interests. 

    I think Trump should use the law to contest, that is fair and just. But I hold no high hopes that the outcome will be changed. 

    My biggest desire is for light to be shown on corruption, cheating and fraud; and that future elections will align more closely to America’s founding principles.

    We have, since day 1 been striving to do that. We should always strive. 

    I pray American’s hearts will be softened to see truth. That would be the best election result. 

     

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  24. Susan Quinn Contributor
    Susan Quinn
    @SusanQuinn

    Jules PA (View Comment):
    My biggest desire is for light to be shown on corruption, cheating and fraud; and that future elections will align more closely to America’s founding principles.

    This. So much this.

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  25. Mim526 Member
    Mim526
    @Mim526

    Bob Thompson (View Comment):

    Mim526 (View Comment):

    From the Newsmax article linked in comment #11:

    Romney said it was legitimate for President Donald Trump to pursue any irregularities in the Nov. 3 vote. “But if, as expected, those things don’t change the outcome, why, he will accept the inevitable,” Romney added.

    “I’m more concerned about the language that’s used” in describing those challenges, since inflammatory rhetoric can be seized upon by authoritarians around the world, he said.

    At this point I have had more than my fill of the GOP Mitt Romneys, who I find once again more than willing to dump on Donald Trump while failing to address the issue of either the authoritarian threats from Democrat members of Congress or the 70+ million voters whose votes have been disenfranchised by indications of probable serious voter fraud. The man’s a businessman for Pete’s sake and well aware I’m sure of audit parameters, a seasoned politician and failed presidential candidate himself and well aware of Democrat campaign tactics. Yet here we are once again with him holding form on his version of the vagaries of President Trump while avoiding the larger issue important to traditional American voters.

    “Referendum”, “policy”…typical GOP avoidance talking pablum about secondary issues while on primary concerns of their voters it’s either crickets (silent on Kavanaugh) or pacifiers (this voter fraud issue).

    Take Donald Trump out of the equation. Substitute Reagan, Ike, Lincoln, Washington…any other American president as the one up for re-election. Now take a look at the voter data this election cycle from WI, MI, PA, and GA. Compare it to other Democrat performance, to stats in other areas like FL and OH with heavy but much more monitored mail in/absentee ballots.

    Every one of those members of Congress took an oath to uphold the Constitution of the United States, to defend it against all enemies foreign and domestic, and to well and faithfully discharge the duties of their office. YO, GOP…TO ARMS, LARGE SCALE THUGGERY AGAINST A CONSTITUTIONAL PROCESS IN PROGRESS!

    Take heart, my Ricochet friend @susanquinn :-)

    There is something in the Constitution called the guarantee clause where every state is guaranteed a republican form of government. An organized infringement of the voting process in an election would fall into the same category as domestic violence within a state. An investigation is required with results presented to the Court.

    You don’t say *grin*.  Bet the attorneys representing the GOP know about it, too, which means there must be alot going on that is not being shared with the press/public…it’s almost like the networks with their “where’s the evidence” refrain are on fishing expeditions.

    From an experienced US attorney not given to hyperbole:

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  26. Bob Thompson Member
    Bob Thompson
    @BobThompson

    Mim526 (View Comment):

    Bob Thompson (View Comment):

    Mim526 (View Comment):

    From the Newsmax article linked in comment #11:

    Romney said it was legitimate for President Donald Trump to pursue any irregularities in the Nov. 3 vote. “But if, as expected, those things don’t change the outcome, why, he will accept the inevitable,” Romney added.

    “I’m more concerned about the language that’s used” in describing those challenges, since inflammatory rhetoric can be seized upon by authoritarians around the world, he said.

    At this point I have had more than my fill of the GOP Mitt Romneys, who I find once again more than willing to dump on Donald Trump while failing to address the issue of either the authoritarian threats from Democrat members of Congress or the 70+ million voters whose votes have been disenfranchised by indications of probable serious voter fraud. The man’s a businessman for Pete’s sake and well aware I’m sure of audit parameters, a seasoned politician and failed presidential candidate himself and well aware of Democrat campaign tactics. Yet here we are once again with him holding form on his version of the vagaries of President Trump while avoiding the larger issue important to traditional American voters.

    “Referendum”, “policy”…typical GOP avoidance talking pablum about secondary issues while on primary concerns of their voters it’s either crickets (silent on Kavanaugh) or pacifiers (this voter fraud issue).

    Take Donald Trump out of the equation. Substitute Reagan, Ike, Lincoln, Washington…any other American president as the one up for re-election. Now take a look at the voter data this election cycle from WI, MI, PA, and GA. Compare it to other Democrat performance, to stats in other areas like FL and OH with heavy but much more monitored mail in/absentee ballots.

    Every one of those members of Congress took an oath to uphold the Constitution of the United States, to defend it against all enemies foreign and domestic, and to well and faithfully discharge the duties of their office. YO, GOP…TO ARMS, LARGE SCALE THUGGERY AGAINST A CONSTITUTIONAL PROCESS IN PROGRESS!

    Take heart, my Ricochet friend @susanquinn :-)

    There is something in the Constitution called the guarantee clause where every state is guaranteed a republican form of government. An organized infringement of the voting process in an election would fall into the same category as domestic violence within a state. An investigation is required with results presented to the Court.

    You don’t say *grin*. Bet the attorneys representing the GOP know about it, too, which means there must be alot going on that is not being shared with the press/public…it’s almost like the networks with their “where’s the evidence” refrain are on fishing expeditions.

     

    The information delivery ban keeps us from knowing the details of GOP legal actions. Fox News is joining up. Next week should be interesting.

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  27. Stad Coolidge
    Stad
    @Stad

    It ain’t over until the “Dogma Lady” sings . . .

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  28. Jules PA Inactive
    Jules PA
    @JulesPA

    Mim526 (View Comment):

    Bob Thompson (View Comment):

    Mim526 (View Comment):

    From the Newsmax article linked in comment #11:

    Romney said it was legitimate for President Donald Trump to pursue any irregularities in the Nov. 3 vote. “But if, as expected, those things don’t change the outcome, why, he will accept the inevitable,” Romney added.

    “I’m more concerned about the language that’s used” in describing those challenges, since inflammatory rhetoric can be seized upon by authoritarians around the world, he said.

    At this point I have had more than my fill of the GOP Mitt Romneys, who I find once again more than willing to dump on Donald Trump while failing to address the issue of either the authoritarian threats from Democrat members of Congress or the 70+ million voters whose votes have been disenfranchised by indications of probable serious voter fraud. The man’s a businessman for Pete’s sake and well aware I’m sure of audit parameters, a seasoned politician and failed presidential candidate himself and well aware of Democrat campaign tactics. Yet here we are once again with him holding form on his version of the vagaries of President Trump while avoiding the larger issue important to traditional American voters.

    “Referendum”, “policy”…typical GOP avoidance talking pablum about secondary issues while on primary concerns of their voters it’s either crickets (silent on Kavanaugh) or pacifiers (this voter fraud issue).

    Take Donald Trump out of the equation. Substitute Reagan, Ike, Lincoln, Washington…any other American president as the one up for re-election. Now take a look at the voter data this election cycle from WI, MI, PA, and GA. Compare it to other Democrat performance, to stats in other areas like FL and OH with heavy but much more monitored mail in/absentee ballots.

    Every one of those members of Congress took an oath to uphold the Constitution of the United States, to defend it against all enemies foreign and domestic, and to well and faithfully discharge the duties of their office. YO, GOP…TO ARMS, LARGE SCALE THUGGERY AGAINST A CONSTITUTIONAL PROCESS IN PROGRESS!

    Take heart, my Ricochet friend @susanquinn :-)

    There is something in the Constitution called the guarantee clause where every state is guaranteed a republican form of government. An organized infringement of the voting process in an election would fall into the same category as domestic violence within a state. An investigation is required with results presented to the Court.

    You don’t say *grin*. Bet the attorneys representing the GOP know about it, too, which means there must be alot going on that is not being shared with the press/public…it’s almost like the networks with their “where’s the evidence” refrain are on fishing expeditions.

    From an experienced US attorney not given to hyperbole:

    Someone, get that gun away from Mr. Fudd.

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  29. Chris O. Coolidge
    Chris O.
    @ChrisO

    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    Chris O. (View Comment):
    I realize this is pretty well off-topic, it was your title that inspired the response, Susan. Thanks again!

    Thank you, @chriso. I’m honored that something I said may have inspired you to act. Those of us who have people in our lives who move us to action are very special. But we are still the ones who must act. Good for you!

    I’m sorry to say, it was something else, but the title inspired me to share it here. Have no fear, however, your posts inspire me aplenty.

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  30. Goldwaterwoman Thatcher
    Goldwaterwoman
    @goldwaterwoman

    Susan Quinn: We grieve that our systems are so corrupt that we couldn’t even manage an election process with all the technological tools at hand.

    Last night I said to a close Dem friend of mine that I thought we should pursue any perceived instances of miscounts, voter fraud, etc. while she was fully convinced that everything was done according to Hoyle and all the Republican talk of chicanery was ludicrous. I finally reached her by saying that it’s entirely possible there WAS nothing nefarious, but for the sake of public confidence in Biden’s legitimacy going forward, wouldn’t it be a good thing to let people know that nothing untoward occurred, not just for this election’s integrity but elections in the future. 

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