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  1. Jules PA Inactive
    Jules PA
    @JulesPA

    Continually embarrassed by my state. 

    My head, my entire being, covered in shame. 

    😭

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  2. Arahant Member
    Arahant
    @Arahant

    Just going to throw this in here:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_supercentenarians

    Four living Americans between 113 and 115. None above at the moment.

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  3. Arahant Member
    Arahant
    @Arahant

    Here’s a list with more Americans, since it includes youngsters of 112:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_oldest_living_people

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  4. Aaron Miller Inactive
    Aaron Miller
    @AaronMiller

    It was clear months ago that this election would be rife with fraud, which has always accompanied mail-in ballots especially. The open question is whether or not the Trump administration can win the legal and political battles necessary to force corrections in only a few weeks. 

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  5. Jules PA Inactive
    Jules PA
    @JulesPA

    Arahant (View Comment):

    Just going to throw this in here:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_supercentenarians

    Four living Americans between 113 and 115. None above at the moment.

    Four. Not hundreds. 

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  6. Arahant Member
    Arahant
    @Arahant

    Jules PA (View Comment):
    Four. Not hundreds. 

    Yep.

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  7. Bob Thompson Member
    Bob Thompson
    @BobThompson

    I had Rush on in the car for 5 minutes while driving to the store. He said there were only 4 cities (where Democrats win elections) where Biden got more votes in 2020 than Clinton did in 2016: Philadelphia, Atlanta, Milwaukee, and Detroit. I guess that should get a fact check.

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  8. Susan Quinn Contributor
    Susan Quinn
    @SusanQuinn

    I’m not sure which chart @iwe looked at, but there is requesting a ballot application, and there are ballots actually turned in. I think the numbers can be added up, but I’m not inclined to check it.

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  9. Freeven Member
    Freeven
    @Freeven

    For months, Rs have been warning that dropping ballots out of helicopters is an invitation to cheating. Ds have responded by claiming that there is no evidence of mass voter fraud. (Because we’ve never tried this before.) Okay, so now we’ve had an election. This would be the time for Rs to step up with evidence to back up their prediction.

    Is this voter roll that evidence? We’ll see.

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  10. MarciN Member
    MarciN
    @MarciN

    I voted “early,” which I did not understand until I got to town hall and the poll workers had already checked me off so I couldn’t undo it and vote in person later.

    The process was that I filled out my ballot and then put it into a mailing envelope. So it wasn’t early voting at all, just a slightly different way of taking mailed-in ballots. What bothered me was that it would be very easy to see that the ballot was marked for Trump and throw it away.

    These new voting procedures instituted in October throughout the country were poorly thought out. It made no sense to overturn decades of voting procedures with these new ones.

     

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  11. Brian Clendinen Inactive
    Brian Clendinen
    @BrianClendinen

    Bob Thompson (View Comment):

    I had Rush on in the car for 5 minutes while driving to the store. He said there were only 4 cities (where Democrats win elections) where Biden got more votes in 2020 than Clinton did in 2016: Philadelphia, Atlanta, Milwaukee, and Detroit. I guess that should get a fact check.

    Fulton County GA (Aka Metro Atlanta) has almost 20% more votes cast this election compared to 4 years ago. I know a lot of people have moved to ATL but the population has not increased by that much.

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  12. Susan Quinn Contributor
    Susan Quinn
    @SusanQuinn

    MarciN (View Comment):
    These new voting procedures instituted in October were chaotic and poorly thought out. It made no sense to overturn decades of voting procedures with these new ones.

    It made perfect sense to the Dems, @marcin.

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  13. CarolJoy, Thread Hijacker Coolidge
    CarolJoy, Thread Hijacker
    @CarolJoy

    Bob Thompson (View Comment):

    I had Rush on in the car for 5 minutes while driving to the store. He said there were only 4 cities (where Democrats win elections) where Biden got more votes in 2020 than Clinton did in 2016: Philadelphia, Atlanta, Milwaukee, and Detroit. I guess that should get a fact check.

    I am rather certain Los Angeles would fall in the same category. The 2018 election in California indicated that 40% of the population here wanted a Republican governor, a guy 90% of  northern Californians had never heard of. Yet we “R”‘s voted for him, as Ew! Gavin Newsom.

    But now we are told that Trump received only 30% of the vote here. I find that hard to believe. Unless there are far more RINO’s here than I thought there are.

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  14. Freeven Member
    Freeven
    @Freeven

    MarciN (View Comment):
    These new voting procedures instituted in October throughout the country were poorly thought out.

    Or were they?

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  15. Bob Thompson Member
    Bob Thompson
    @BobThompson

    Freeven (View Comment):

    MarciN (View Comment):
    These new voting procedures instituted in October throughout the country were poorly thought out.

    Or were they?

    I don’t think the linkage of Covid-19 and voting by mail was poorly thought out at all by Democrats.

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  16. philo Member
    philo
    @philo

    Based on the data shown, these weren’t just ballots blindly sent to those on the voting rolls. There were “applications” submitted for these. Presumably some of them were through the mail…and maybe even across state lines. If only we had an investigative organization or bureau or something at the federal level that could watch over / dig into something like this…preferably one that wasn’t complicit in committing these acts.

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  17. J. D. Fitzpatrick Member
    J. D. Fitzpatrick
    @JDFitzpatrick

    Bob Thompson (View Comment):

    I had Rush on in the car for 5 minutes while driving to the store. He said there were only 4 cities (where Democrats win elections) where Biden got more votes in 2020 than Clinton did in 2016: Philadelphia, Atlanta, Milwaukee, and Detroit. I guess that should get a fact check.

    That does indeed sound telling. But, frustratingly, it can always be explained away as Biden enthusiasm in those particular towns. 

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  18. philo Member
    philo
    @philo

    J. D. Fitzpatrick (View Comment):

    Bob Thompson (View Comment):

    I had Rush on in the car for 5 minutes while driving to the store. He said there were only 4 cities (where Democrats win elections) where Biden got more votes in 2020 than Clinton did in 2016: Philadelphia, Atlanta, Milwaukee, and Detroit. I guess that should get a fact check.

    That does indeed sound telling. But, frustratingly, it can always be explained away as Biden enthusiasm in those particular towns.

    Yea, no real campaign of any sort and no Get Out The Vote operation but enthusiasms abound. Fortunately, for them, no need to “explain away” because the fix was in and everyone who mattered was in on it.

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  19. CarolJoy, Thread Hijacker Coolidge
    CarolJoy, Thread Hijacker
    @CarolJoy

    Interesting video regarding Michigan Republicans who desire to be voter observers or vote counters and how they are discriminated against.

    The Democrats controlling this election center are claiming there would be an infraction against COVID rules if the “R”‘s are let in. The compromise would be to send some of the Dem observers and vote counters out and have those people replaced by an equal number of Republicans. Third party people are also being kept out.

    Angry participants, many who are African Americans  state: “The Dems claim that Black Lives Matter, but apparently black votes do not matter:”

    https://www.facebook.com/rachel.kratz.58/videos/828120741271873

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  20. Aaron Miller Inactive
    Aaron Miller
    @AaronMiller

    CarolJoy, Thread Hijacker (View Comment):
    The Democrats controlling this election center are claiming there would be an infraction against COVID rules if the “R”‘s are let in.

    It doesn’t explain why they blocked the windows. Fraud does.

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  21. Jules PA Inactive
    Jules PA
    @JulesPA

    MarciN (View Comment):

    I voted “early,” which I did not understand until I got to town hall and the poll workers had already checked me off so I couldn’t undo it and vote in person later.

    The process was that I filled out my ballot and then put it into a mailing envelope. So it wasn’t early voting at all, just a slightly different way of taking mailed-in ballots. What bothered me was that it would be very easy to see that the ballot was marked for Trump and throw it away.

    These new voting procedures instituted in October throughout the country were poorly thought out. It made no sense to overturn decades of voting procedures with these new ones.

    Well it certainly made sense to Democrats, since it was part of their scheme for chaos, at the very least. 

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  22. Gary Robbins Member
    Gary Robbins
    @GaryRobbins

    Pennsylvania has a Republican Legislature.  Why haven’t they addressed this?  

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  23. philo Member
    philo
    @philo

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Pennsylvania has a Republican Legislature. Why haven’t they addressed this?

    X

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  24. HeavyWater Inactive
    HeavyWater
    @HeavyWater

    When George W. Bush was confronted with Al Gore’s trickery during the 2000 race in Florida, Bush assembled a team of top notch attorneys and kicked Gore’s butt in court and won the election.

    What does Trump do when he thinks the election is being stolen from him by Democrats?  He publicly whines about it.  

    Biden, as senile as he is, is running circles around Trump.  

    Trump is weak, whiney loser.

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  25. Stad Coolidge
    Stad
    @Stad

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Pennsylvania has a Republican Legislature. Why haven’t they addressed this?

    They have.  It’s called “elections” . . .

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  26. David Foster Member
    David Foster
    @DavidFoster

    I went to the PA government website and used the data-analysis tool there to request info on voters born between 1850 and 1910.  (People who have requested confidentiality have their birthdates set to 1800.)  There were 53 results.  All of these had ballots mailed to them, about half of them supposedly returned their ballots.

    So, based on this data, there is either fraud or sloppiness going on…but the numbers involved aren’t very material in the overall scale of PA voting.

    https://data.pa.gov/Government-Efficiency-Citizen-Engagement/2020-General-Election-Mail-Ballot-Requests-Departm/mcba-yywm/data

     

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  27. Flicker Coolidge
    Flicker
    @Flicker

    David Foster (View Comment):

    I went to the PA government website and used the data-analysis tool there to request info on voters born between 1850 and 1910. (People who have requested confidentiality have their birthdates set to 1800.) There were 53 results. All of these had ballots mailed to them, about half of them supposedly returned their ballots.

    So, based on this data, there is either fraud or sloppiness going on…but the numbers involved aren’t very material in the overall scale of PA voting.

    https://data.pa.gov/Government-Efficiency-Citizen-Engagement/2020-General-Election-Mail-Ballot-Requests-Departm/mcba-yywm/data

    But where there’s smoke there’s mirrors.

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  28. OccupantCDN Coolidge
    OccupantCDN
    @OccupantCDN

    21 000 dead voters in Philadelphia:

    https://freebeacon.com/2020-election/watchdog-finds-21000-dead-registrants-on-pa-voter-rolls-in-final-weeks-of-election/

     

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  29. WI Con Member
    WI Con
    @WICon

    What’s more amazing than their longevity, check out the dates they requested the ballot and the date its was approved and mailed out-same day! Amazing! I mean, there’s  over a century of historical voting activity so they could get that done so quickly. 

    Gosh, if only all federal and state and USPS employees were as efficient as PA’s election staff.

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  30. Giulietta Inactive
    Giulietta
    @giuliettachicago

    Trump’s lawyers need to make statements now. Another press conference where the lawyers step forward and explain the body of evidence they are amassing. Why they believe they have a case. Remind everyone that Biden is not the president because he has said so himself, nor because the networks anointed him. It’s important to show how that this is now going to be a legal matter settled rightfully by the courts.

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