Trump Taught Us How to Fight Back

 

For years I’ve listened to and agreed with the diatribes about the feckless Republican party. Republicans were known for being cooperative, reasonable, even polite in their interactions with Democrats. They would also whine and complain endlessly about lying and cheating they faced, but nothing seemed to change.

People have proposed forming a new party to replace the Republicans, but that might not be necessary. We’ve had a four-year seminar on how to fight back against the Democrats and the media, and it may have been ugly, chaotic, and confusing, but the public is finally taking note: You may not like Donald Trump, but he’s a power to be reckoned with.

We’re watching Trump’s feisty and predictable demands for fairness in this election; that every vote be counted, and that fraud and manipulation are the unacceptable strategies of the Democrats in several states. Those kinds of actions are not new, but Trump is finally telling everyone that the Democrats are not going to get away with these tactics. He is calling them out big-time and will fight tooth-and-nail for the voices of the people to be heard.

Naturally, the Democrats are resisting and denying these accusations. I suspect they are also extremely annoyed that the President is not going along with their historic deceptions. This time around he’s not just going to complain; he’s going to take the election mishandling all the way to the Supreme Court.

It’s important to note that he’s not requiring every state to account for their strategies and final counts, only those where results are suspect and that law-breaking has already been witnessed. Keep in mind that he’s not only fighting for his own election.

He’s fighting for justice.

He’s fighting for the people of this country.

He’s fighting for the United States of America.

Let’s hope Republican officeholders are taking notes. It’s time to fight back.

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  1. Mim526 Inactive
    Mim526
    @Mim526

    MarciN (View Comment):
    For me, that’s what this election is. It’s a moment that Donald Trump has made possible because he is refusing to accept the results.

    I think of it more as refusing to accept dubious results, or conversely, demanding accurate results.

    Dbroussa (View Comment):
    my question to them is…what counts as proof? What do you need to be shown to actually sit up and say “That is maybe fraud and we should look deeper.”?

    This question would probably most apply to the courts.  I’ve noticed people who are dismissive of election fraud concerns this cycle seem to do so in conjunction with deep antipathy toward Donald Trump.  Being right about his re-election prospects and well shod of him is reason enough to forego any concerns fellow Americans may have about damage to the country’s electoral process, who are written off in toto as just those Trump fanatics being their usual deplorable selves.

    Kevin Creighton (View Comment):
    The vast majority of my friends in the, ah, applied violence industry are Trump supporters. They understand that if you’re in an existential fight, you’re in it to win it, and if that means “fighting dirty,” so be it.

    Noticed this comment on one of the articles referenced in this thread:

    Do they want to have a civil war? Because this is how you get civil wars.
    If the soap box is suppressed, and if jury box doesn’t work, and the ballot box is rigged, what’s left other than the ammo box?

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  2. Bill Nelson Inactive
    Bill Nelson
    @BillNelson

    DrewInWisconsin, Man of Consta… (View Comment):

    Bill Nelson (View Comment):

    Susan Quinn (View Comment):
    there’s no denying that fraud and manipulation of ballots is going on.

    Yes it can be denied. Where is the evidence other than Trump is losing? The change is about what was expected and Trump was told this.

    Please respond to every single one of the “red flags” listed here. I look forward to you explaining them away.

     

    There is no evidence other than vague accusations, nothing to refute. Several that have come up have been debunked (fake ballot picture, sharpies). Were there people who voted who shouldn’t have? Most likely, but tiny numbers, and probably for both sides. The vast number of conspiracies being tossed about would require hundreds of people.

     The Russians are supposedly trying to delegitimize our elections, Trump is trying harder.

    • #122
  3. DrewInWisconsin, Man of Constant Sorrow Member
    DrewInWisconsin, Man of Constant Sorrow
    @DrewInWisconsin

    Mim526 (View Comment)

    If it’s honesty you’re after, you should probably mention they put in to stop votes in areas that were counting in violation of court orders, state law duly enacted by state legislatures, etc.

    He’s not after honesty. He just hates the President and all who voted for him, and “whatever it takes” to remove him from office is okay with these traitors.

    “Whatever it takes” has been the plan since 2016.

    • #123
  4. DrewInWisconsin, Man of Constant Sorrow Member
    DrewInWisconsin, Man of Constant Sorrow
    @DrewInWisconsin

    Bill Nelson (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Man of Consta… (View Comment):

    Bill Nelson (View Comment):

    Susan Quinn (View Comment):
    there’s no denying that fraud and manipulation of ballots is going on.

    Yes it can be denied. Where is the evidence other than Trump is losing? The change is about what was expected and Trump was told this.

    Please respond to every single one of the “red flags” listed here. I look forward to you explaining them away.

    There is no evidence other than vague accusations, nothing to refute. Several that have come up have been debunked (fake ballot picture, sharpies). Were there people who voted who shouldn’t have? Most likely, but tiny numbers, and probably for both sides. The vast number of conspiracies being tossed about would require hundreds of people.

    The Russians are supposedly trying to delegitimize our elections, Trump is trying harder.

    You have not responded to anything except to give a sweeping “no evidence” response again.

    • #124
  5. Valiuth Member
    Valiuth
    @Valiuth

    DrewInWisconsin, Man of Consta… (View Comment):

    Mim526 (View Comment)

    If it’s honesty you’re after, you should probably mention they put in to stop votes in areas that were counting in violation of court orders, state law duly enacted by state legislatures, etc.

    He’s not after honesty. He just hates the President and all who voted for him, and “whatever it takes” to remove him from office is okay with these traitors.

    “Whatever it takes” has been the plan since 2016.

    Yep. That’s the plan. I was there with all my Bulwark budies just making up ballots for Biden in Wisconsin. 

    Everything you guys are insinuating and coyly implying is true. We stole this thing, but only for Biden, not for various House Democrats, or Senatorial candidates. And only in these states not in North Carolina, Ohio, Florida, etc. Nor did we just do it in one sweep to have the results come out quickly on election night. But we have chosen to drag it out over several days. Slowly and methodically to give you all time to work yourselves up in a lather. We are just toying with you like a cat does with a mouse. We could have made it quick, heck right now we could just shoot Trump. We have the secret snipers, half the secret service are Deep State Agents, and Mike Pence was replaced by a doppelganger long ago. But again we are choosing to do it this way because it amuses us. We are just bored, and this is how we get our kicks. 

     

     

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  6. DrewInWisconsin, Man of Constant Sorrow Member
    DrewInWisconsin, Man of Constant Sorrow
    @DrewInWisconsin

    Valiuth (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Man of Consta… (View Comment):

    Mim526 (View Comment)

    If it’s honesty you’re after, you should probably mention they put in to stop votes in areas that were counting in violation of court orders, state law duly enacted by state legislatures, etc.

    He’s not after honesty. He just hates the President and all who voted for him, and “whatever it takes” to remove him from office is okay with these traitors.

    “Whatever it takes” has been the plan since 2016.

    Yep. That’s the plan. I was there with all my Bulwark budies just making up ballots for Biden in Wisconsin.

    I believe you.

    • #126
  7. DrewInWisconsin, Man of Constant Sorrow Member
    DrewInWisconsin, Man of Constant Sorrow
    @DrewInWisconsin

    Be prepared to fight back. Because this is where it’s going.

    At the behest of ‘squad’ member and New York Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, a blacklist of “Trump sycophants”—entitled “The Trump Accountability Project”—is archiving the names of individuals who “elected, served, funded, supported, and represented” President Donald Trump.

    “Is anyone archiving these Trump sycophants for when they try to downplay or deny their complicity in the future? I foresee decent probability of many deleted Tweets, writings, photos in the future,” the US representative tweeted Friday afternoon.

    “Yes, we are,” answered former Obama administration staffer Michael Simon, citing the Trump Accountability Project. “Every Administration staffer, campaign staffer, bundler, lawyer who represented them — everyone.”

    On the website’s landing page, it urges urges that “[w]e must never forget those who helped further the Trump agenda,” adding that “the world should never forget those who, when faced with a decision, chose to put their money, their time, and their reputations behind separating children from their families, encouraging racism and anti-Semitism, and negligently causing the unnecessary loss of life and economic devastation from our country’s failed response to the COVID-19 pandemic.”

    The site is a self-described “permanent record” of those who elected the president, including Trump campaign staffers, Republican National Committee members, and affiliated PACs in 2016 or 2020.

    Individuals who donated a “significant amount”—$1000 or more—in efforts to re-elect the president and related campaign committees are also blacklisted.

    Others who worked in the Trump administration; endorsed the president in a public light; were appointed to federal boards, commissions, or the judiciary; and staffed law firms that represented the Trump name in any capacity are named.

    Former Pete Buttigieg national surrogates director Emily Abrams wrote before her account went private: “We’re launching the Trump Accountability Project to make sure anyone who took a paycheck to help Trump undermine America is held responsible for what they did.

    The pogrom is coming. And NeverTrumpers will be helping the left. Enthusiastically.

    • #127
  8. Django Member
    Django
    @Django

    DrewInWisconsin, Man of Consta… (View Comment):

    Be prepared to fight back. Because this is where it’s going.

    At the behest of ‘squad’ member and New York Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, a blacklist of “Trump sycophants”—entitled “The Trump Accountability Project”—is archiving the names of individuals who “elected, served, funded, supported, and represented” President Donald Trump.

    “Is anyone archiving these Trump sycophants for when they try to downplay or deny their complicity in the future? I foresee decent probability of many deleted Tweets, writings, photos in the future,” the US representative tweeted Friday afternoon.

    “Yes, we are,” answered former Obama administration staffer Michael Simon, citing the Trump Accountability Project. “Every Administration staffer, campaign staffer, bundler, lawyer who represented them — everyone.”

    On the website’s landing page, it urges urges that “[w]e must never forget those who helped further the Trump agenda,” adding that “the world should never forget those who, when faced with a decision, chose to put their money, their time, and their reputations behind separating children from their families, encouraging racism and anti-Semitism, and negligently causing the unnecessary loss of life and economic devastation from our country’s failed response to the COVID-19 pandemic.”

    The site is a self-described “permanent record” of those who elected the president, including Trump campaign staffers, Republican National Committee members, and affiliated PACs in 2016 or 2020.

    Individuals who donated a “significant amount”—$1000 or more—in efforts to re-elect the president and related campaign committees are also blacklisted.

    Others who worked in the Trump administration; endorsed the president in a public light; were appointed to federal boards, commissions, or the judiciary; and staffed law firms that represented the Trump name in any capacity are named.

    Former Pete Buttigieg national surrogates director Emily Abrams wrote before her account went private: “We’re launching the Trump Accountability Project to make sure anyone who took a paycheck to help Trump undermine America is held responsible for what they did.

    The pogrom is coming. And NeverTrumpers will be helping the left. Enthusiastically.

    I guess I’m blacklisted. I’m also armed. 

    • #128
  9. Biden Pure Demagogue Inactive
    Biden Pure Demagogue
    @Pseudodionysius

    DrewInWisconsin, Man of Consta… (View Comment):

    Apparently if you repeat “no evidence” enough times it just goes away.

    All the tubby losers and brie eating beneficiaries of lobbyist largesse want to go back to overindulging their porcine tendencies at taxpayer expense. 

    • #129
  10. Chris O. Coolidge
    Chris O.
    @ChrisO

    A lot of ifs right now, but Trump’s final gift to the party may be the exposure of the fanaticism–to the point of election tampering and “lists”–that exists in this polity. I mean, really? 

    Oh, right, I forgot. This is mainly about politeness and protocol; rule of law? You’ll sacrifice that to get what you want. You want to be ruled from on high. You want to be a subject. You want the august king. 

    What you can’t stand is that it is messy. A lot of people, all they want is security, stability, but the irony of that is that it is those who risk who achieve it in the way you envy.

    Trump creates instability, you think, and so that is all you see. Well, probably all of us have fixated on something so obsessively at one time or another. The funny thing is that you think he is responsible for your happiness. But in making him so, I guess I understand your unease because he is not about placation. All you want is a break from feeling the anxiety.

    Friends, we have had “polite” presidents and recently, and they have done precious little to stabilize our world, both domestically and abroad. Energy independence…peace agreements in the Middle East…terrorist nations isolated…jobs restored…more balanced trade agreements…regulations lifted…

    The wake of Trump’s chaos is the stability you long for. Too bad you can’t see it. Many of us can.

    • #130
  11. Old Bathos Member
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    Valiuth (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Man of Consta… (View Comment):

    Mim526 (View Comment)

    If it’s honesty you’re after, you should probably mention they put in to stop votes in areas that were counting in violation of court orders, state law duly enacted by state legislatures, etc.

    He’s not after honesty. He just hates the President and all who voted for him, and “whatever it takes” to remove him from office is okay with these traitors.

    “Whatever it takes” has been the plan since 2016.

    Yep. That’s the plan. I was there with all my Bulwark budies just making up ballots for Biden in Wisconsin.

    Everything you guys are insinuating and coyly implying is true. We stole this thing, but only for Biden, not for various House Democrats, or Senatorial candidates. And only in these states not in North Carolina, Ohio, Florida, etc. Nor did we just do it in one sweep to have the results come out quickly on election night. But we have chosen to drag it out over several days. Slowly and methodically to give you all time to work yourselves up in a lather. We are just toying with you like a cat does with a mouse. We could have made it quick, heck right now we could just shoot Trump. We have the secret snipers, half the secret service are Deep State Agents, and Mike Pence was replaced by a doppelganger long ago. But again we are choosing to do it this way because it amuses us. We are just bored, and this is how we get our kicks.

    Being arch and clever is not really your metier.

    It is likely that Biden had enough legit votes to win. It is not possible that substantial numbers of his votes in large urban areas were not illegitimate.  

    It will be interesting to see how the ever-so-clever Trump-haters deal with the coming Biden fiasco. Trump will look like he belongs on Mt Rushmore as his policy legacy becomes clear in contrast to the impending sh*tshow.

    Paranoia about routine Dem cheating is always legit. I am tired of having to exceed the margin of fraud. This may be a benefit from this election if we finally deal with this. 

    It is interesting how many clever self-satisfied types are indifferent to cheating. 

    • #131
  12. HeavyWater Inactive
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    Old Bathos (View Comment):

    Valiuth (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Man of Consta… (View Comment):

    Mim526 (View Comment)

    If it’s honesty you’re after, you should probably mention they put in to stop votes in areas that were counting in violation of court orders, state law duly enacted by state legislatures, etc.

    He’s not after honesty. He just hates the President and all who voted for him, and “whatever it takes” to remove him from office is okay with these traitors.

    “Whatever it takes” has been the plan since 2016.

    Yep. That’s the plan. I was there with all my Bulwark budies just making up ballots for Biden in Wisconsin.

    Everything you guys are insinuating and coyly implying is true. We stole this thing, but only for Biden, not for various House Democrats, or Senatorial candidates. And only in these states not in North Carolina, Ohio, Florida, etc. Nor did we just do it in one sweep to have the results come out quickly on election night. But we have chosen to drag it out over several days. Slowly and methodically to give you all time to work yourselves up in a lather. We are just toying with you like a cat does with a mouse. We could have made it quick, heck right now we could just shoot Trump. We have the secret snipers, half the secret service are Deep State Agents, and Mike Pence was replaced by a doppelganger long ago. But again we are choosing to do it this way because it amuses us. We are just bored, and this is how we get our kicks.

    Being arch and clever is not really your metier.

    It is likely that Biden had enough legit votes to win. It is not possible that substantial numbers of his votes in large urban areas were not illegitimate.

    It will be interesting to see how the ever-so-clever Trump-haters deal with the coming Biden fiasco. Trump will look like he belongs on Mt Rushmore as his policy legacy becomes clear in contrast to the impending sh*tshow.

    Paranoia about routine Dem cheating is always legit. I am tired of having to exceed the margin of fraud. This may be a benefit from this election if we finally deal with this.

    It is interesting how many clever self-satisfied types are indifferent to cheating.

    Remember when Trump said that we needed to put Amy Coney Barrett on the court before the election because we needed to her to guard against Democrat vote fraud?

    But now Trump is whining about the vote counting and yet Trump’s election attorneys are unable to get their cases before the US Supreme Court.  

    Do you chalk this up to Trump’s incompetence?  

    • #132
  13. Chris O. Coolidge
    Chris O.
    @ChrisO

    HeavyWater (View Comment):
    But now Trump is whining about the vote counting and yet Trump’s election attorneys are unable to get their cases before the US Supreme Court.

    Alito’s order seems an indication that we’ll hear from the Supreme Court.

    • #133
  14. Old Bathos Member
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    HeavyWater (View Comment):

    Old Bathos (View Comment):

    Valiuth (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Man of Consta… (View Comment):

    Mim526 (View Comment)

    If it’s honesty you’re after, you should probably mention they put in to stop votes in areas that were counting in violation of court orders, state law duly enacted by state legislatures, etc.

    He’s not after honesty. He just hates the President and all who voted for him, and “whatever it takes” to remove him from office is okay with these traitors.

    “Whatever it takes” has been the plan since 2016.

    Yep. That’s the plan. I was there with all my Bulwark budies just making up ballots for Biden in Wisconsin.

    Everything you guys are insinuating and coyly implying is true. We stole this thing, but only for Biden, not for various House Democrats, or Senatorial candidates. And only in these states not in North Carolina, Ohio, Florida, etc. Nor did we just do it in one sweep to have the results come out quickly on election night. But we have chosen to drag it out over several days. Slowly and methodically to give you all time to work yourselves up in a lather. We are just toying with you like a cat does with a mouse. We could have made it quick, heck right now we could just shoot Trump. We have the secret snipers, half the secret service are Deep State Agents, and Mike Pence was replaced by a doppelganger long ago. But again we are choosing to do it this way because it amuses us. We are just bored, and this is how we get our kicks.

    Being arch and clever is not really your metier.

    It is likely that Biden had enough legit votes to win. It is not possible that substantial numbers of his votes in large urban areas were not illegitimate.

    It will be interesting to see how the ever-so-clever Trump-haters deal with the coming Biden fiasco. Trump will look like he belongs on Mt Rushmore as his policy legacy becomes clear in contrast to the impending sh*tshow.

    Paranoia about routine Dem cheating is always legit. I am tired of having to exceed the margin of fraud. This may be a benefit from this election if we finally deal with this.

    It is interesting how many clever self-satisfied types are indifferent to cheating.

    Remember when Trump said that we needed to put Amy Coney Barrett on the court before the election because we needed to her to guard against Democrat vote fraud?

    But now Trump is whining about the vote counting and yet Trump’s election attorneys are unable to get their cases before the US Supreme Court.

    Do you chalk this up to Trump’s incompetence?

    What a profound take on the situation.  You must have clerked for Ginsberg right out of Yale law. Or maybe you’re stringing random thoughts…

    • #134
  15. HeavyWater Inactive
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    Old Bathos (View Comment):

    HeavyWater (View Comment):

    Old Bathos (View Comment):

    Valiuth (View Comment):

    Yep. That’s the plan. I was there with all my Bulwark budies just making up ballots for Biden in Wisconsin.

    Everything you guys are insinuating and coyly implying is true. We stole this thing, but only for Biden, not for various House Democrats, or Senatorial candidates. And only in these states not in North Carolina, Ohio, Florida, etc. Nor did we just do it in one sweep to have the results come out quickly on election night. But we have chosen to drag it out over several days. Slowly and methodically to give you all time to work yourselves up in a lather. We are just toying with you like a cat does with a mouse. We could have made it quick, heck right now we could just shoot Trump. We have the secret snipers, half the secret service are Deep State Agents, and Mike Pence was replaced by a doppelganger long ago. But again we are choosing to do it this way because it amuses us. We are just bored, and this is how we get our kicks.

    Being arch and clever is not really your metier.

    It is likely that Biden had enough legit votes to win. It is not possible that substantial numbers of his votes in large urban areas were not illegitimate.

    It will be interesting to see how the ever-so-clever Trump-haters deal with the coming Biden fiasco. Trump will look like he belongs on Mt Rushmore as his policy legacy becomes clear in contrast to the impending sh*tshow.

    Paranoia about routine Dem cheating is always legit. I am tired of having to exceed the margin of fraud. This may be a benefit from this election if we finally deal with this.

    It is interesting how many clever self-satisfied types are indifferent to cheating.

    Remember when Trump said that we needed to put Amy Coney Barrett on the court before the election because we needed to her to guard against Democrat vote fraud?

    But now Trump is whining about the vote counting and yet Trump’s election attorneys are unable to get their cases before the US Supreme Court.

    Do you chalk this up to Trump’s incompetence?

    What a profound take on the situation. You must have clerked for Ginsberg right out of Yale law. Or maybe you’re stringing random thoughts…

    So you are saying that the best way to combat vote fraud by Democrats is to publicly whine about it but not get any legal cases before the federal courts?

    • #135
  16. Django Member
    Django
    @Django

    Chris O. (View Comment):

    HeavyWater (View Comment):
    But now Trump is whining about the vote counting and yet Trump’s election attorneys are unable to get their cases before the US Supreme Court.

    Alito’s order seems an indication that we’ll hear from the Supreme Court.

    Don’t count on a gutless coward like Roberts. 

    • #136
  17. Chris O. Coolidge
    Chris O.
    @ChrisO

    HeavyWater (View Comment):
    So you are saying that the best way to combat vote fraud by Democrats is to publicly whine about it but not get any legal cases before the federal courts?

    Chris O. (View Comment):

    HeavyWater (View Comment):
    But now Trump is whining about the vote counting and yet Trump’s election attorneys are unable to get their cases before the US Supreme Court.

    Alito’s order seems an indication that we’ll hear from the Supreme Court.

    See just above.

    I’m not aware of any question before the Supreme Court excluding the pre-election suit involving Pennsylvania. There are suits in state courts, and there are other ongoing issues. For example, there is the software problem. Now, it could be that election officials in the states (30+) that use the software will order a manual recount, or maybe just some states. Seems it would be in any state election commission’s interests to take a hard look at this to ensure integrity.

    • #137
  18. Django Member
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    @Django

    HeavyWater (View Comment):

    Old Bathos (View Comment):

    HeavyWater (View Comment):

    Old Bathos (View Comment):

    Valiuth (View Comment):

    Yep. That’s the plan. I was there with all my Bulwark budies just making up ballots for Biden in Wisconsin.

    Everything you guys are insinuating and coyly implying is true. We stole this thing, but only for Biden, not for various House Democrats, or Senatorial candidates. And only in these states not in North Carolina, Ohio, Florida, etc. Nor did we just do it in one sweep to have the results come out quickly on election night. But we have chosen to drag it out over several days. Slowly and methodically to give you all time to work yourselves up in a lather. We are just toying with you like a cat does with a mouse. We could have made it quick, heck right now we could just shoot Trump. We have the secret snipers, half the secret service are Deep State Agents, and Mike Pence was replaced by a doppelganger long ago. But again we are choosing to do it this way because it amuses us. We are just bored, and this is how we get our kicks.

    Being arch and clever is not really your metier.

    It is likely that Biden had enough legit votes to win. It is not possible that substantial numbers of his votes in large urban areas were not illegitimate.

    It will be interesting to see how the ever-so-clever Trump-haters deal with the coming Biden fiasco. Trump will look like he belongs on Mt Rushmore as his policy legacy becomes clear in contrast to the impending sh*tshow.

    Paranoia about routine Dem cheating is always legit. I am tired of having to exceed the margin of fraud. This may be a benefit from this election if we finally deal with this.

    It is interesting how many clever self-satisfied types are indifferent to cheating.

    Remember when Trump said that we needed to put Amy Coney Barrett on the court before the election because we needed to her to guard against Democrat vote fraud?

    But now Trump is whining about the vote counting and yet Trump’s election attorneys are unable to get their cases before the US Supreme Court.

    Do you chalk this up to Trump’s incompetence?

    What a profound take on the situation. You must have clerked for Ginsberg right out of Yale law. Or maybe you’re stringing random thoughts…

    So you are saying that the best way to combat vote fraud by Democrats is to publicly whine about it but not get any legal cases before the federal courts?

    Even a leftist legal analyst for KCBS said that one doesn’t go to the SCOTUS with a shoddy case. He expected another week before Trump’s lawyers make a move. 

    • #138
  19. Chris O. Coolidge
    Chris O.
    @ChrisO

    Django (View Comment):
    Even a leftist legal analyst for KCBS said that one doesn’t go to the SCOTUS with a shoddy case. He expected another week before Trump’s lawyers make a move.

    Couldn’t help but think of Boromir.

    As to your earlier comment about Roberts, I don’t think Alito would/could have made the order without Roberts’ approval, or at least a plurality of the court’s agreement.

    • #139
  20. Django Member
    Django
    @Django

    Chris O. (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):
    Even a leftist legal analyst for KCBS said that one doesn’t go to the SCOTUS with a shoddy case. He expected another week before Trump’s lawyers make a move.

    Couldn’t help but think of Boromir.

    As to your earlier comment about Roberts, I don’t think Alito would/could have made the order without Roberts’ approval, or at least a plurality of the court’s agreement.

    I’m not a lawyer, so I’m relying on Mark Levin’s comments regarding Roberts. He gave an analysis claiming Roberts is responsible for the current PA situation. I won’t attempt to repeat it from memory. 

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  21. Old Bathos Member
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    HeavyWater (View Comment):

    Old Bathos (View Comment):

    HeavyWater (View Comment):

    Old Bathos (View Comment):

    Valiuth (View Comment):

    Yep. That’s the plan. I was there with all my Bulwark budies just making up ballots for Biden in Wisconsin.

    Everything you guys are insinuating and coyly implying is true. We stole this thing, but only for Biden, not for various House Democrats, or Senatorial candidates. And only in these states not in North Carolina, Ohio, Florida, etc. Nor did we just do it in one sweep to have the results come out quickly on election night. But we have chosen to drag it out over several days. Slowly and methodically to give you all time to work yourselves up in a lather. We are just toying with you like a cat does with a mouse. We could have made it quick, heck right now we could just shoot Trump. We have the secret snipers, half the secret service are Deep State Agents, and Mike Pence was replaced by a doppelganger long ago. But again we are choosing to do it this way because it amuses us. We are just bored, and this is how we get our kicks.

    Being arch and clever is not really your metier.

    It is likely that Biden had enough legit votes to win. It is not possible that substantial numbers of his votes in large urban areas were not illegitimate.

    It will be interesting to see how the ever-so-clever Trump-haters deal with the coming Biden fiasco. Trump will look like he belongs on Mt Rushmore as his policy legacy becomes clear in contrast to the impending sh*tshow.

    Paranoia about routine Dem cheating is always legit. I am tired of having to exceed the margin of fraud. This may be a benefit from this election if we finally deal with this.

    It is interesting how many clever self-satisfied types are indifferent to cheating.

    Remember when Trump said that we needed to put Amy Coney Barrett on the court before the election because we needed to her to guard against Democrat vote fraud?

    But now Trump is whining about the vote counting and yet Trump’s election attorneys are unable to get their cases before the US Supreme Court.

    Do you chalk this up to Trump’s incompetence?

    What a profound take on the situation. You must have clerked for Ginsberg right out of Yale law. Or maybe you’re stringing random thoughts…

    So you are saying that the best way to combat vote fraud by Democrats is to publicly whine about it but not get any legal cases before the federal courts?

    If you peruse my post on Election Fraud 101 … you can’t just wander into court and demand fairness. I think Trump had in mind a justiciable issue like counting irregularities.  Depending on the margin in Michigan, there may yet be a case. But go ahead and tell us how dumb Trump is for not acting on the basis of the silly caricature you presented. 

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  22. DrewInWisconsin, Man of Constant Sorrow Member
    DrewInWisconsin, Man of Constant Sorrow
    @DrewInWisconsin

    NeverTrumpers’ new friends.

    “Lincoln Project should take the L and publicly pledge to give a lot of their fundraising to the people who actually made a big difference,” Ocasio-Cortez said late Friday in response to news that the group had raised at least $67 million during the 2020 election cycle.

    The soon to be sophomore congresswoman said the 2020 results netted by the organization had not justified the investment.

    “@ProjectLincoln is def in scam territory w these results. It’s a pretty bad rep even tho GOP has a thing for failing up. Come clean, say “listen, we thought it’d work, it didn’t,& in good faith we’re gonna raise X mil for these ppl who deserve it,” she said. “And for folks who think it persuaded Republicans, I’d be interested to see data on how effective their videos and NYC billboards were at persuasion. Especially data that justifies $67,000,000.”

    Toldja. Nobody likes traitors. If these people thought they’d have influence after the election they were kidding themselves. Nobody likes NeverTrumpers.

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  23. Susan Quinn Contributor
    Susan Quinn
    @SusanQuinn

    Bill Nelson (View Comment):
    There is no evidence other than vague accusations, nothing to refute. Several that have come up have been debunked (fake ballot picture, sharpies). Were there people who voted who shouldn’t have? Most likely, but tiny numbers, and probably for both sides. The vast number of conspiracies being tossed about would require hundreds of people.

    Your conjectures are worse than those who think there is fraud.

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