Trump Taught Us How to Fight Back

 

For years I’ve listened to and agreed with the diatribes about the feckless Republican party. Republicans were known for being cooperative, reasonable, even polite in their interactions with Democrats. They would also whine and complain endlessly about lying and cheating they faced, but nothing seemed to change.

People have proposed forming a new party to replace the Republicans, but that might not be necessary. We’ve had a four-year seminar on how to fight back against the Democrats and the media, and it may have been ugly, chaotic, and confusing, but the public is finally taking note: You may not like Donald Trump, but he’s a power to be reckoned with.

We’re watching Trump’s feisty and predictable demands for fairness in this election; that every vote be counted, and that fraud and manipulation are the unacceptable strategies of the Democrats in several states. Those kinds of actions are not new, but Trump is finally telling everyone that the Democrats are not going to get away with these tactics. He is calling them out big-time and will fight tooth-and-nail for the voices of the people to be heard.

Naturally, the Democrats are resisting and denying these accusations. I suspect they are also extremely annoyed that the President is not going along with their historic deceptions. This time around he’s not just going to complain; he’s going to take the election mishandling all the way to the Supreme Court.

It’s important to note that he’s not requiring every state to account for their strategies and final counts, only those where results are suspect and that law-breaking has already been witnessed. Keep in mind that he’s not only fighting for his own election.

He’s fighting for justice.

He’s fighting for the people of this country.

He’s fighting for the United States of America.

Let’s hope Republican officeholders are taking notes. It’s time to fight back.

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  1. Old Bathos Moderator
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    I blame RINOs for the overt election fraud in so many places. Too gentlemanly to brawl over obviously fraudulent ballots, letting bygones be bygones without an unyielding demand for justice before the next election. The perpetrators of the current chaos need to be made uncomfortable forever. Borrow tactics from the left and gather outside their houses and call them out.

    The only time election fraud is vigorously fought is in Democratic primaries.

    There probably needs to be a movement to support, staff, and fund a name-by-name review of voter rolls everywhere and identify every suspect or fraudulent vote and the person(s) responsible, kind of a Veritas/Judicial Watch at a grassroots level. to reduce future fraud and put asterisks on elections that need them.

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  2. Kozak Member
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    The Democrats have turned us into a corrupt Banana Republic.

    Our 3rd world electoral process has made us a laughing stock and is a real threat to the stability of the Republic.

    I am sick to death of being disenfranchised, have my vote negated by Democratic fraud.

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  3. Freeven Member
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    @Freeven

    Susan Quinn:

    He’s fighting for justice.

    He’s fighting for the people of this country.

    He’s fighting for the United States of America.

     

    Or perhaps he’s simply fighting for Donald Trump?

    After four years, I’m still not sure what to make of the guy. I generally like his policies, however, and he’s often entertaining. It’s enough, for me, in a politician.

     

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  4. MarciN Member
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    When my husband and kids found out that two of the planes that hit the World Trade Center in 2001 had departed from Boston, we were not at all shocked to hear that. We had just the week before been to Logan to see our daughter off to Ireland. We had talked about the sloppy security at the airport all the way home. These security flaws had existed for years, and no one ever did anything about them.

    In one way or another, the election irregularities we are looking at today have been in play since the 1960s. We have been ignoring these problems that long. It is time to get serious about reforming our election procedures. If we don’t, no other countries will ever take us seriously again.

    I’m glad President Trump is pursuing this issue with such determination. A lot of good will come out of it for the future.

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  5. DonG (skeptic) Coolidge
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    Aren’t they all RINOs? The GOP has controlled the Senate for the last 6 years and nobody has stopped the corruption of the Senate Intel Committee or investigated Biden collusion with foreign powers or cleaned out the FBI/CIA/NSA/DIA/DOJ. If I was in the Senate I would filibuster every day until the corruption has ended. My only conclusion is that everyone is compromised or corrupt.

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  6. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    Old Bathos (View Comment):
    There probably needs to be a movement to support, staff, and fund a name-by-name review of voter rolls everywhere and identify every suspect or fraudulent vote and the person(s) responsible, kind of a Veritas/Judicial Watch at a grassroots level. to reduce future fraud and put asterisks on elections that need them.

    With even our current technology, this should not be difficult to do. We must get the Dems to stop counting dead people.

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  7. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    MarciN (View Comment):
    In one way or another, the election irregularities we are looking at today have been in play since the 1960s. We have been ignoring these problems that long. It is time to get serious about reforming our election procedures. If we don’t, no other countries will ever take us seriously again.

    Exactly, @marcin. We’re way overdue in getting this done, for ourselves and for our credibility to the world.

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  8. Old Bathos Moderator
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    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    Old Bathos (View Comment):
    There probably needs to be a movement to support, staff, and fund a name-by-name review of voter rolls everywhere and identify every suspect or fraudulent vote and the person(s) responsible, kind of a Veritas/Judicial Watch at a grassroots level. to reduce future fraud and put asterisks on elections that need them.

    With even our current technology, this should not be difficult to do. We must get the Dems to stop counting dead people.

    Harder than you think. Middle initial? Address check? Registered in another state? Doing it right requires a pretty comprehensive effort.

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  9. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    Old Bathos (View Comment):

    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    Old Bathos (View Comment):
    There probably needs to be a movement to support, staff, and fund a name-by-name review of voter rolls everywhere and identify every suspect or fraudulent vote and the person(s) responsible, kind of a Veritas/Judicial Watch at a grassroots level. to reduce future fraud and put asterisks on elections that need them.

    With even our current technology, this should not be difficult to do. We must get the Dems to stop counting dead people.

    Harder than you think. Middle initial? Address check? Registered in another state? Doing it right requires a pretty comprehensive effort.

    I’m sure it does. But we have to decide if it’s important enough to develop a way to do it efficiently and effectively. Once we figure out the best way, we can duplicate and update it over time. It must be done!

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  10. Raxxalan Member
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    Freeven (View Comment):

    Susan Quinn:

    He’s fighting for justice.

    He’s fighting for the people of this country.

    He’s fighting for the United States of America.

     

    Or perhaps he’s simply fighting for Donald Trump?

    After four years, I’m still not sure what to make of the guy. I generally like his policies, however, and he’s often entertaining. It’s enough, for me, in a politician.

     

    The beauty of the system as it is designed is that both are true. He is certainly fighting in his own self interest; however, if there is voter fraud and it is uncovered and corrected as part of the process it is also in the interest of the country.

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  11. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    Freeven (View Comment):
    Or perhaps he’s simply fighting for Donald Trump?

    Silly guy–of course he’s fighting for himself, @freeven! Why would anyone put themselves through this process if he wasn’t? As you say, he’s a politician; self-love comes with the territory.

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  12. Kozak Member
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    Old Bathos (View Comment):

    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    Old Bathos (View Comment):
    There probably needs to be a movement to support, staff, and fund a name-by-name review of voter rolls everywhere and identify every suspect or fraudulent vote and the person(s) responsible, kind of a Veritas/Judicial Watch at a grassroots level. to reduce future fraud and put asterisks on elections that need them.

    With even our current technology, this should not be difficult to do. We must get the Dems to stop counting dead people.

    Harder than you think. Middle initial? Address check? Registered in another state? Doing it right requires a pretty comprehensive effort.

    Social security number. And that could work nation wide to avoid people voting twice.

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  13. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    Kozak (View Comment):

    Old Bathos (View Comment):

    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    Old Bathos (View Comment):
    There probably needs to be a movement to support, staff, and fund a name-by-name review of voter rolls everywhere and identify every suspect or fraudulent vote and the person(s) responsible, kind of a Veritas/Judicial Watch at a grassroots level. to reduce future fraud and put asterisks on elections that need them.

    With even our current technology, this should not be difficult to do. We must get the Dems to stop counting dead people.

    Harder than you think. Middle initial? Address check? Registered in another state? Doing it right requires a pretty comprehensive effort.

    Social security number.

    Good man, @kozak!

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  14. Gary Robbins Reagan
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    A smidge off topic, but relevant to our discussion.

    I was listening to Jeffrey Goldberg, the Editor of The Atlantic on Morning Joe this morning, and he suggested that Democrats need to find a way to stop hectoring people and insisting upon political correctness. I agree. One strength of Trump was that he eschewed political correctness. I would assert that he would go out of his way to violate political correctness, but my goal here is to not start a fight, but to come to common ground with the post.

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  15. MarciN Member
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    Kozak (View Comment):

    Old Bathos (View Comment):

    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    Old Bathos (View Comment):
    There probably needs to be a movement to support, staff, and fund a name-by-name review of voter rolls everywhere and identify every suspect or fraudulent vote and the person(s) responsible, kind of a Veritas/Judicial Watch at a grassroots level. to reduce future fraud and put asterisks on elections that need them.

    With even our current technology, this should not be difficult to do. We must get the Dems to stop counting dead people.

    Harder than you think. Middle initial? Address check? Registered in another state? Doing it right requires a pretty comprehensive effort.

    Social security number. And that could work nation wide to avoid people voting twice.

    I’m also thinking of some system like the new driver’s license system that is verified such that a traveler can use it to fly. 

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  16. Raxxalan Member
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    MarciN (View Comment):

    Kozak (View Comment):

    Old Bathos (View Comment):

    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    Old Bathos (View Comment):
    There probably needs to be a movement to support, staff, and fund a name-by-name review of voter rolls everywhere and identify every suspect or fraudulent vote and the person(s) responsible, kind of a Veritas/Judicial Watch at a grassroots level. to reduce future fraud and put asterisks on elections that need them.

    With even our current technology, this should not be difficult to do. We must get the Dems to stop counting dead people.

    Harder than you think. Middle initial? Address check? Registered in another state? Doing it right requires a pretty comprehensive effort.

    Social security number. And that could work nation wide to avoid people voting twice.

    I’m also thinking of some system like the new driver’s license system that is verified such that a traveler can use it to fly.

    Pretty sure there is a barcode and a magnetic strip on that card, so it shouldn’t be too hard to have an app that tracked that you voted.

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  17. Freeven Member
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    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    Freeven (View Comment):
    Or perhaps he’s simply fighting for Donald Trump?

    Silly guy–of course he’s fighting for himself, @freeven! Why would anyone put themselves through this process if he wasn’t? As you say, he’s a politician; self-love comes with the territory.

    My point is that perhaps he’s not fighting for any of the things you mentioned. Perhaps it’s solely about him and his ego. As I say, I still don’t know what to think of Donald Trump — so I’ll just be content with what he’s done.

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  18. DrewInWisconsin, Man of Constant Sorrow Coolidge
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    What the President did show us is that most of the Republican Party won’t fight on behalf of its base. Even now, where are Republicans? As the Presidency is being stolen, they’re MIA. And you know why they’re MIA? Because they’re thinking “Heck, I got elected? What do I care about whether Trump does. I’ll still have my cushy seat in Congress and I’ll pull down millions selling influence.”

    Primary every last one of them.

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  19. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    Freeven (View Comment):

    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    Freeven (View Comment):
    Or perhaps he’s simply fighting for Donald Trump?

    Silly guy–of course he’s fighting for himself, @freeven! Why would anyone put themselves through this process if he wasn’t? As you say, he’s a politician; self-love comes with the territory.

    My point is that perhaps he’s not fighting for any of the things you mentioned. Perhaps it’s solely about him and his ego. As I say, I still don’t know what to think of Donald Trump — so I’ll just be content with what he’s done.

    We have no way of knowing what he’s thinking. But I haven’t seen him do anything unprincipled in terms of this country. So I prefer to give him the benefit of the doubt. And I’m glad you’re content with what he’s done!

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  20. Chris O. Coolidge
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    Could not agree more, Susan. Along the way he’s transformed Mitch McConnell (stiffened his backbone, I’d say), and inspired a host of high-quality candidates for office.

    I loved listening to Kevin McCarthy’s enthusiasm about what is happening in the House. Kim Klacik lost by some measure, but she is now high-profile and may yet represent her city and state in the future.

    Here at home, we held Indiana 5 despite a lot of D money. Our new Congresswoman Victoria Spartz had the Great Orange Peril on her primary materials, and the local GOPe turned their noses up. Nevertheless, she’s on her way with the type of energy we need to continue the fight to bring DC to heel.

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  21. Stad Coolidge
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    Susan Quinn: For years I’ve listened to and agreed with the diatribes about the feckless Republican party. Republicans were known for being cooperative, reasonable, even polite in their interactions with Democrats. They would also whine and complain endlessly about lying and cheating they faced, but nothing seemed to change.

    Republican voters now have a template to use when evaluating candidates in the primaries. If you’re not a fighter, you’re fired . . .

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  22. Sweezle Member
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    Freeven (View Comment):

    Susan Quinn:

    He’s fighting for justice.

    He’s fighting for the people of this country.

    He’s fighting for the United States of America.

    Or perhaps he’s simply fighting for Donald Trump?

    After four years, I’m still not sure what to make of the guy. I generally like his policies, however, and he’s often entertaining. It’s enough, for me, in a politician.

    It’s possible both ideas are true. DJT can be fighting for himself and for the American people. 

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  23. Vince Guerra Member
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    DonG (skeptic) (View Comment):

    Aren’t they all RINOs? The GOP has controlled the Senate for the last 6 years and nobody has stopped the corruption of the Senate Intel Committee or investigated Biden collusion with foreign powers or cleaned out the FBI/CIA/NSA/DIA/DOJ. If I was in the Senate I would filibuster every day until the corruption has ended. My only conclusion is that everyone is compromised or corrupt.

    The next two months will tell.

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  24. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    Chris O. (View Comment):

    Could not agree more, Susan. Along the way he’s transformed Mitch McConnell (stiffened his backbone, I’d say), and inspired a host of high-quality candidates for office.

    I loved listening to Kevin McCarthy’s enthusiasm about what is happening in the House. Kim Klacik lost by some measure, but she is now high-profile and may yet represent her city and state in the future.

    Here at home, we held Indiana 5 despite a lot of D money. Our new Congresswoman Victoria Spartz had the Great Orange Peril on her primary materials, and the local GOPe turned their noses up. Nevertheless, she’s on her way with the type of energy we need to continue the fight to bring DC to heel.

    All true! The NeverTrumpers can keep turning up their noses, and they’ll wake up one day alone in the dust. It’s time to break out, speak up and take on the battle!

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  25. Rodin Member
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  26. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    Rodin (View Comment):

    True, but scary. Let’s hope he continues to be in the way for a while, @rodin

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  27. lowtech redneck Coolidge
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    DrewInWisconsin, Man of Consta… (View Comment):

    What the President did show us is that most of the Republican Party won’t fight on behalf of its base. Even now, where are Republicans? As the Presidency is being stolen, they’re MIA. And you know why they’re MIA? Because they’re thinking “Heck, I got elected? What do I care about whether Trump does. I’ll still have my cushy seat in Congress and I’ll pull down millions selling influence.”

    Primary every last one of them.

    Most national Republicans and major donors, for a varying combination of policy and cultural reasons, has a better opinion of the less radical half of the Democrat party than they do of the more conservative half of the Republican party-despite the drastic leftward lunge that the Democrat party has taken over the past generation and a half. Trump’s willingness to fight on behalf of the base shines a persistent spotlight on this, which is why they hate him.

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  28. 666 Inactive
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    DrewInWisconsin, Man of Consta… (View Comment):

    What the President did show us is that most of the Republican Party won’t fight on behalf of its base. Even now, where are Republicans? As the Presidency is being stolen, they’re MIA. And you know why they’re MIA? Because they’re thinking “Heck, I got elected? What do I care about whether Trump does. I’ll still have my cushy seat in Congress and I’ll pull down millions selling influence.”

    Primary every last one of them.

    That’s because most Republicans are Democrats in drag. “Hi, I’m Trans-Republican”.

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  29. 666 Inactive
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  30. Flicker Coolidge
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    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    Freeven (View Comment):
    Or perhaps he’s simply fighting for Donald Trump?

    Silly guy–of course he’s fighting for himself, @freeven! Why would anyone put themselves through this process if he wasn’t? As you say, he’s a politician; self-love comes with the territory.

    I wouldn’t say Trump’s a politician. Politicians are now taking this “public servant” position to be a “profession” with standards of ethics and codes of conduct. Trump certainly doesn’t fit their code of conduct — or even fit in with their ethics, judging by these fraudulent election results. And that’s why people like him so much: He isn’t a “politician”.

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