Contributor Post Created with Sketch. Where the Count Stands Now

 

At 7:30 a.m. ET/4:30 a.m. PT, we do not have a winner of the presidential contest. Early Tuesday night, it appeared that Donald Trump was on track to achieve the impossible a second time. But as the late evening (and early morning) wore on, Biden moved within striking range.

Various media organizations have different numbers and projections, but according to the New York Times, Biden has 227 electoral votes to Trump’s 213. The winning candidate needs 270.

The Times has called every state except for eight: Alaska, Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin. Put together, those states have 98 electoral votes.

Biden is currently leading in Arizona (by 5), Nevada (by 0.6%), and Wisconsin (by 0.7%).

Trump is currently leading in Alaska (by 27%), Georgia (2.2%), Michigan (0.5%), North Carolina (1.4%), and Pennsylvania (11.5%).

If all these states hold, Trump wins with 284 electoral votes. But that’s a big “if.”

Trump was leading in Wisconsin until a tranche of urban votes rolled in at about 3 a.m. local time. The race flipped to Biden by a hair. The same could happen in Michigan and elsewhere.

Trump was utterly dominating Pennsylvania when the counters called a lid, saying they wouldn’t count the Philly-centric votes until 11 a.m. Wednesday. There is zero excuse for PA and other states to abruptly stop a vote count in a high-pressure, low-trust election like 2020. It’s no surprise that Trump warned of shenanigans and possibly stealing the election.

Bluechecks on Twitter were shocked™ and appalled® at Trump’s intemperate remarks, while Trump fans blasted the lazy vote counters. The whole world is watching Pennsylvania and the Keystone State Cops decided to take a nap. Inexcusable.

As it stands now, Biden has the advantage. It may take several days for the final counts to shake out.

In brighter news, it appears that the GOP will gain seats in the House and retain the majority in the Senate. This is the opposite of what the polls predicted; they were also wrong about Biden winning in a walk.

If Biden wins in a squeaker with a GOP-led Senate, radical ideas like packing the courts, creating new states, and the Green New Deal are off the table. It will be two years of gridlock, followed by a stronger GOP Senate and possibly a GOP-led House.

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  1. J Climacus Member

    Quintus Sertorius (View Comment):

    J Climacus (View Comment):

    Quintus Sertorius (View Comment):

    Hartmann von Aue (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Man of Consta… (View Comment):

    lowtech redneck (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Man of Consta… (View Comment):

    Trump was leading in Wisconsin until a tranche of urban votes rolled in at about 3 a.m. local time.

    Yup. This always happens. The

    It’s not the Republican Party that attracted more African American/Hispanic/Latino voters. It was Trump. The establishment Republican Party still thinks the way to attract minorities is to pander to them in Jeb! style. Without Trump, they will go back to that, and the Republican share of the minority vote will go back to where it was.

    With Trump gone, the Republican Party will return to its genteel ways, thinking it is to vulgar to actually fight Democrats. The Biden/Harris Administration will be the most corrupt in history, and Congressional Republicans will tut-tut but do nothing about it, lest the MSM call them racists.

    I must respectfully disagree. I will concede that Donald Trump opened the door to the prospect but he is not the future. Of course nor is it the Republican Party of Gary Robins and Jonah Goldberg either….nor will they be players in this new coalition…no..the new leaders are Tim Scott, Candice Owens, Larry Elder, John James, Kim Kasik and those like them. In my opinion, Donald Trump has served his purpose; dragging this election through the mud will do nothing to solidify this coalition….it is there for the Republicans to take….will they is the question. I sure hope so….

    I agree that Trump himself is not the future. He is a transitional candidate. Your Republican Congressional leaders are Mitch McConnell and Kevin McCarthy. McConnell is a good, old-style backroom politician. These are your Republican leaders now. Kim Klacik will not be joining them in Congress.

    McConnell is an excellent leader where everyone more or less plays by the rules. He’s great at navigating those rules. Unfortunately, Democrats and the MSM stopped playing by the rules years ago. They play to win, any way they can, the ends justifying the means. The great advantage of Trump was that he understood this. He understood that there is no point in playing by the media’s rules, because the game is rigged against him from the start. You have to go around them. McConnell, et. al., still haven’t figured this out. They play a game they can’t win.

    A perfect case is this election. Trump knew going in the Dems would try to steal it. He’s fighting back. Establishment Republicans, like always, are content to roll over.

    • #61
    • November 4, 2020, at 6:27 AM PST
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  2. Bishop Wash Member

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    The irony is that Trump did this to himself with his lack of discipline, his tweets, and his demand that no Republicans ever criticize him. Before Charlottesville, I was slowly warming to Trump. I could have been won over. But Trump couldn’t or wouldn’t reach out.

    Still with the Charlottesville lie. Lockdown Joe based his campaign on that lie too, but it’s a lie.

    • #62
    • November 4, 2020, at 6:28 AM PST
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  3. Biden Pure Demagogue Coolidge
    Biden Pure DemagogueJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    • #63
    • November 4, 2020, at 6:28 AM PST
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  4. DrewInEastHillAutonomousZone Coolidge

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Man of Consta… (View Comment):

    Do NeverTrumpers believe they will be welcomed anywhere?

    I don’t need your welcome. Lord knows, Trump wasn’t welcomed by the Republican Party in 2016.

    Uh . . . he won in 2016. That’s a pretty good indicator that he was welcomed.

     

     

    • #64
    • November 4, 2020, at 6:29 AM PST
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  5. Manny Member

    J Climacus (View Comment):

    Metalheaddoc (View Comment):

    I am very depressed. The Steal is on. President Harris?!?! Really? Actually, I am both sad and angry. This is going to be a slow motion robbery. Goodbye tax cuts. Goodbye Middle East peace. Goodbye comity with friends and neighbors. Holding the Senate won’t mean much with turncoats like Romney and Collins and Murkowski.

    I have arthritis in my throwing shoulder. I would make a poor rioter. Sorry…mostly peaceful protester.

    Trying to find a silver lining: One advantage the right has is the Democrat emphasis on identity politics means they put incompetent people in place for the sake of identity. This was true of Hillary, who had an inverse Midas-touch, destroying anything she came in contact with. Harris is even more so than Hillary; entirely unlikeable, completely uncharismatic, no talent for much of anything other than sleeping her way to the top. Even the people around her hate her, just like Hillary.

    Presidents depend a lot on popular support to make things happen. Harris will be so off-putting and just won’t have the competence to be a real danger, although she will definitely try. But I suspect she will just embarrass herself.

    The poster child for giving someone a job based on identity is Kamala Harris. What an empty brain she turned out to be. Besides sleeping with the right people, she rose to the top purely based on identity.

    • #65
    • November 4, 2020, at 6:30 AM PST
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  6. DrewInEastHillAutonomousZone Coolidge

    Bishop Wash (View Comment):
    The Left’s talking points on Twitter is that the Republicans went to court to prevent ballots in Wisconsin from being counted before yesterday so the delay is on them. Is this remotely true?

    I don’t know. Probably not. Leftists always lie.

    • #66
    • November 4, 2020, at 6:31 AM PST
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  7. OccupantCDN Coolidge

    So lets get it over with and call the states:

    Pennsylvania  
    *Donald J. Trump (Republican) 300661454.80%
    Joe Biden (Democratic) 241177044.00%
    Jo Jorgensen (Libertarian) 643511.20%
       
    Votes counted: 5,482,735. We estimate this is 78.5% of the total vote.   
    Geogia  
    *Donald J. Trump (Republican) 238207050.50%
    Joe Biden (Democratic) 228025848.30%
    Jo Jorgensen (Libertarian) 574401.20%
    Votes counted: 4,719,768. We estimate this is 94.2% of the total vote.   
    North Carolina  
    *Donald J. Trump (Republican) 273208450.10%
    Joe Biden (Democratic) 265538348.70%
    Jo Jorgensen (Libertarian) 472150.90%
    Howie Hawkins (Green) 118250.20%
    Don Blankenship (Constitution) 73810.10%
    Votes counted: 5,453,888. We estimate this is 97.6% of the total vote.   

     

    Whats the hold up? 97% of the vote is counted, and your still not sure who the winner is?

    • #67
    • November 4, 2020, at 6:32 AM PST
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  8. Gary Robbins Reagan

    lowtech redneck (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Man of Consta… (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    No Bryan, I support the Rule of Law.

    Not really. If you supported the impeachment, you supported mob rule. Sorry. Own it.

    He also supports riots, looting, political prosecutions, critical race theory, etc.

    You really don’t know me do you? I oppose violence, whether it is by Antifa, Black Lives Matter, Bernie Bros, or Trump Train Thugs.

    I supported The Federalist Society before there ever was a Federalist Society. I was a very lonely voice against Roe v. Wade in law school in 1973-76.

    I oppose so-called critical race theory and the 1619 Project.

    When I joined the Republican Party during the Reagan Administration, we stood for the Constitution, the Rule of Law, limited government, a cogent national defense, and free trade. I still believe in those things; Trump doesn’t.

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    • November 4, 2020, at 6:33 AM PST
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  9. Gary Robbins Reagan

    Hartmann von Aue (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Man of Consta… (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    No Bryan, I support the Rule of Law.

    Not really. If you supported the impeachment, you supported mob rule. Sorry. Own it.

    This is what the Never Trumpers are supporting de facto:

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/11/03/the-steal-is-on-in-pennsylvania-poll-watchers-denied-access-illegal-campaigning-at-polling-locations/

    Namely, illegal acts aimed at throwing the election to Biden. The Republican legal teams should be filing their actions right now.

    I loved Andrew Breitbart. I think that he would turn over in his grave to see how Brietbart News was taken over by Trumpists.

    • #69
    • November 4, 2020, at 6:35 AM PST
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  10. J Climacus Member

    OccupantCDN (View Comment):

    So lets get it over with and call the states:

    Pennsylvania  
    *Donald J. Trump (Republican) 300661454.80%
    Joe Biden (Democratic) 241177044.00%
    Jo Jorgensen (Libertarian) 643511.20%
       
    Votes counted: 5,482,735. We estimate this is 78.5% of the total vote.   
    Geogia  
    *Donald J. Trump (Republican) 238207050.50%
    Joe Biden (Democratic) 228025848.30%
    Jo Jorgensen (Libertarian) 574401.20%
    Votes counted: 4,719,768. We estimate this is 94.2% of the total vote.   
    North Carolina  
    *Donald J. Trump (Republican) 273208450.10%
    Joe Biden (Democratic) 265538348.70%
    Jo Jorgensen (Libertarian) 472150.90%
    Howie Hawkins (Green) 118250.20%
    Don Blankenship (Constitution) 73810.10%
    Votes counted: 5,453,888. We estimate this is 97.6% of the total vote.   

     

    Whats the hold up? 97% of the vote is counted, and your still not sure who the winner is?

    PA allows mail-in votes to be counted that don’t have a postmark. So the counting will continue until enough votes are manufactured for Biden to carry the state. We all know it’s happening. 

    We are at the Stalin end game: It doesn’t matter who votes, it matter who counts the votes.

     

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    • November 4, 2020, at 6:35 AM PST
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  11. DrewInEastHillAutonomousZone Coolidge

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Man of Consta… (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    Whether you like it or not, the Republican Party cannot win the Presidency without its so-called Never Trump voters.

    Heh. Things you tell yourself to make yourself feel better.

    News flash: we didn’t need them in 2016. And there were more of them back then.

    But you needed us in 2020; we declined to vote for Trump; and, it appears that Trump lost.

    No, we didn’t. See, this is how math works: there were a lot of NeverTrumpers in 2016 who feared that the President would operate as a Democrat and yank the nation leftward. Instead, he governed as a conservative, bringing us lower taxes, excellent judges, rollback of constricting regulations, high employment, and peace across the middle east. (Also the first President in 40 years not to get us into a new war.) They stopped being NeverTrumpers and became Trump supporters.

    Nobody went the other direction. Nobody.

    So . . . this is how math works. We didn’t need NeverTrumpers in 2016. And given that there are even fewer of them in 2020, we didn’t need them this year either.

    The math checks out.

    You and the other NeverTrumpers flatter yourselves into believing that you’re important and necessary. But if the Republican citizen class hates Democrats, it holds NeverTrumpers in utter contempt. And if you think that Republican citizens will welcome you back and declare that you’re so bright and clever and why didn’t we ever listen to you, you are completely delusional.

    There is no place for NeverTrumpers in the new Republican Party.

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    • November 4, 2020, at 6:36 AM PST
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  12. JamesSalerno Coolidge

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    lowtech redneck (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Man of Consta… (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    No Bryan, I support the Rule of Law.

    Not really. If you supported the impeachment, you supported mob rule. Sorry. Own it.

    He also supports riots, looting, political prosecutions, critical race theory, etc.

    You really don’t know me do you? I oppose violence, whether it is by Antifa, Black Lives Matter, Bernie Bros, or Trump Train Thugs.

    I supported The Federalist Society before there ever was a Federalist Society. I was a very lonely voice against Roe v. Wade in law school in 1973-76.

    I oppose so-called critical race theory and the 1619 Project.

    When I joined the Republican Party during the Reagan Administration, we stood for the Constitution, the Rule of Law, limited government, a cogent national defense, and free trade. I still believe in those things; Trump doesn’t.

    And you still can’t explain what that actually means. Constitutionality? Limited government?

    You are an enemy and an egomaniac.

    • #72
    • November 4, 2020, at 6:37 AM PST
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  13. Gary Robbins Reagan

    Bishop Wash (View Comment):

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    The irony is that Trump did this to himself with his lack of discipline, his tweets, and his demand that no Republicans ever criticize him. Before Charlottesville, I was slowly warming to Trump. I could have been won over. But Trump couldn’t or wouldn’t reach out.

    Still with the Charlottesville lie. Lockdown Joe based his campaign on that lie too, but it’s a lie.

    There are two aspects to Charlottesville. The “both sides” meme by Democrats is inaccurate. But the Trump “hostage video” on Day Two rings hollow. Any other Republican would have denounced the Tiki Torchers fully and completely; Trump did so haltingly and ineffectively. That’s what I mean by Charlottesville, not the Democrats “both sides” meme.

    • #73
    • November 4, 2020, at 6:40 AM PST
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  14. Gary Robbins Reagan

    DrewInWisconsin, Man of Consta… (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Man of Consta… (View Comment):

    Do NeverTrumpers believe they will be welcomed anywhere?

    I don’t need your welcome. Lord knows, Trump wasn’t welcomed by the Republican Party in 2016.

    Uh . . . he won in 2016. That’s a pretty good indicator that he was welcomed.

    And Trump apparently was rejected in 2020. He is no longer welcomed.

    • #74
    • November 4, 2020, at 6:41 AM PST
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  15. Gary Robbins Reagan

    OccupantCDN (View Comment):

    So lets get it over with and call the states:

    Pennsylvania  
    *Donald J. Trump (Republican) 300661454.80%
    Joe Biden (Democratic) 241177044.00%
    Jo Jorgensen (Libertarian) 643511.20%
       
    Votes counted: 5,482,735. We estimate this is 78.5% of the total vote.   
    Geogia  
    *Donald J. Trump (Republican) 238207050.50%
    Joe Biden (Democratic) 228025848.30%
    Jo Jorgensen (Libertarian) 574401.20%
    Votes counted: 4,719,768. We estimate this is 94.2% of the total vote.   
    North Carolina  
    *Donald J. Trump (Republican) 273208450.10%
    Joe Biden (Democratic) 265538348.70%
    Jo Jorgensen (Libertarian) 472150.90%
    Howie Hawkins (Green) 118250.20%
    Don Blankenship (Constitution) 73810.10%
    Votes counted: 5,453,888. We estimate this is 97.6% of the total vote.   

     

    Whats the hold up? 97% of the vote is counted, and your still not sure who the winner is?

    Let’s finish counting the votes.

     

    • #75
    • November 4, 2020, at 6:42 AM PST
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  16. DrewInEastHillAutonomousZone Coolidge

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Man of Consta… (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Man of Consta… (View Comment):

    Do NeverTrumpers believe they will be welcomed anywhere?

    I don’t need your welcome. Lord knows, Trump wasn’t welcomed by the Republican Party in 2016.

    Uh . . . he won in 2016. That’s a pretty good indicator that he was welcomed.

    And Trump apparently was rejected in 2020. He is no longer welcomed.

    Obviously he’s not welcomed by Democrats. That’s a big 10-4, good buddy!

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    • November 4, 2020, at 6:42 AM PST
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  17. thelonious Member

    DrewInWisconsin, Man of Consta… (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Man of Consta… (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    Whether you like it or not, the Republican Party cannot win the Presidency without its so-called Never Trump voters.

    Heh. Things you tell yourself to make yourself feel better.

    News flash: we didn’t need them in 2016. And there were more of them back then.

    But you needed us in 2020; we declined to vote for Trump; and, it appears that Trump lost.

    No, we didn’t. See, this is how math works: there were a lot of NeverTrumpers in 2016 who feared that the President would operate as a Democrat and yank the nation leftward. Instead, he governed as a conservative, bringing us lower taxes, excellent judges, rollback of constricting regulations, high employment, and peace across the middle east. (Also the first President in 40 years not to get us into a new war.) They stopped being NeverTrumpers and became Trump supporters.

    Nobody went the other direction. Nobody.

    So . . . this is how math works. We didn’t need NeverTrumpers in 2016. And given that there are even fewer of them in 2020, we didn’t need them this year either.

    The math checks out.

    So the Never Trumpers didn’t lose this election. Why the hostility towards them?

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    • November 4, 2020, at 6:43 AM PST
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  18. EJHill Podcaster
    EJHillJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Gary Robbins: Does “voter fraud” mean count every vote during a pandemic?

    Every vote or every legally cast vote? There is a difference and you know it.

    By the way, the exit polls won’t tell you damn thing about anything this election. Unless you assert that the pollsters were hanging out at the post box or that there really isn’t a secret ballot. You’ll never know exactly how many registered Republicans defected. It’s all going to be speculation.

    You can extrapolate Trump’s appeal to minorities just by results and census data. 

     

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    • November 4, 2020, at 6:43 AM PST
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  19. JamesSalerno Coolidge

    Twitter is already censoring Trump. This is the future we have to look forward to.

    • #79
    • November 4, 2020, at 6:44 AM PST
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  20. MichaelKennedy Coolidge

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    EJHill (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins: Whether you like it or not, the Republican Party cannot win the Presidency without its so-called Never Trump voters.

    Based on the vote last night I wouldn’t assert that if I were you. Where was the Kasich effect in Ohio? Did Mittens lead Biden to the promised land in Utah? Did THE Rick Wilson impact his home state of Florida?

    See Arizona, Wisconsin and Michigan, and maybe Pennsylvania and Georgia.

    And that “rule of law” thing? Retire it. All around the country judges rewrote law to facilitate voter fraud. And you own that.

    Does “voter fraud” mean count every vote during a pandemic?

     

    Yes, especially the ones with no postmark. 60 million “mail-in” ballots sent to outdated voter rolls with no check of ID or valid addresses.

    • #80
    • November 4, 2020, at 6:45 AM PST
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  21. J Climacus Member

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    OccupantCDN (View Comment):

    So lets get it over with and call the states:

    Pennsylvania  
    *Donald J. Trump (Republican) 300661454.80%
    Joe Biden (Democratic) 241177044.00%
    Jo Jorgensen (Libertarian) 643511.20%
       
    Votes counted: 5,482,735. We estimate this is 78.5% of the total vote.   
    Geogia  
    *Donald J. Trump (Republican) 238207050.50%
    Joe Biden (Democratic) 228025848.30%
    Jo Jorgensen (Libertarian) 574401.20%
    Votes counted: 4,719,768. We estimate this is 94.2% of the total vote.   
    North Carolina  
    *Donald J. Trump (Republican) 273208450.10%
    Joe Biden (Democratic) 265538348.70%
    Jo Jorgensen (Libertarian) 472150.90%
    Howie Hawkins (Green) 118250.20%
    Don Blankenship (Constitution) 73810.10%
    Votes counted: 5,453,888. We estimate this is 97.6% of the total vote.   

     

    Whats the hold up? 97% of the vote is counted, and your still not sure who the winner is?

     

    Let’s finish counting manufacturing the votes.

    Fixed it for you.

     

     

     

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    • November 4, 2020, at 6:46 AM PST
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  22. DrewInEastHillAutonomousZone Coolidge

    thelonious (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Man of Consta… (View Comment):

    So . . . this is how math works. We didn’t need NeverTrumpers in 2016. And given that there are even fewer of them in 2020, we didn’t need them this year either.

    The math checks out.

    So the Never Trumpers didn’t lose this election. Why the hostility towards them?

    The math checks out there, too.

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    • November 4, 2020, at 6:46 AM PST
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  23. DrewInEastHillAutonomousZone Coolidge

    95% of Republicans support the President.

    “The President is not welcomed by the Republican Party!”

    That’s Biden-level delusional.

    • #83
    • November 4, 2020, at 6:48 AM PST
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  24. Guruforhire Member

    Just another thought. Trump is perfectly poised to pull a Grover Cleveland.

    The “I told you so ticket” is available to him.

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    • November 4, 2020, at 6:52 AM PST
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  25. Gary Robbins Reagan

    DrewInWisconsin, Man of Consta… (View Comment):

    95% of Republicans support the President.

    “The President is not welcomed by the Republican Party!”

    That’s Biden-level delusional.

    Trump is unique in that, if memory serves, he is the first Republican nominee to only have a plurality and not a majority of primary votes in the primary era. This is due to our crazy “Plurality wins all delegates” rules. (In South Carolina, Trump won 33% of the vote, while Rubio and Cruz each won 22%. However, Trump won all 50 delegates.)

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    • November 4, 2020, at 6:56 AM PST
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  26. James Gawron Thatcher
    James GawronJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Bishop Wash (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    The irony is that Trump did this to himself with his lack of discipline, his tweets, and his demand that no Republicans ever criticize him. Before Charlottesville, I was slowly warming to Trump. I could have been won over. But Trump couldn’t or wouldn’t reach out.

    Still with the Charlottesville lie. Lockdown Joe based his campaign on that lie too, but it’s a lie.

    There are two aspects to Charlottesville. The “both sides” meme by Democrats is inaccurate. But the Trump “hostage video” on Day Two rings hollow. Any other Republican would have denounced the Tiki Torchers fully and completely; Trump did so haltingly and ineffectively. That’s what I mean by Charlottesville, not the Democrats “both sides” meme.

    Gary,

    At Charlottesville, Antifa outnumbered the “other protestors 4 to 1”. Whatever the other protestors were they actually had a permit to march. Antifa had no permit and never has a permit. Their attitude is that they will judge who has the right to be in the street and then take violent action accordingly. Antifa waited and ambushed the marchers. Antifa comes ready to riot with helmets and pads and weapons. One of the marchers who had been mauled by the Antifa thugs went nuts. He got into his car and drove it into the Antifa mob.

    What Trump said was actually completely correct. What the media did, actually promoting the reputation of Antifa, a vicious gang of leftwing thugs, was unconscionable. Go to Andy Ngo’s Twitter page. You will see just this week’s Antifa atrocities. Antifa is evil and dangerous. They are avowedly Marxist, Revolutionary, and some of the most foul-mouthed creatures on the internet.

    Stop blaming Trump for what is wrong with the world. I too have had it with you. You waste everyone’s time with your false accusations of Trump and your appeasement of the very dangerous left.

    Regards,

    Jim 

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    • November 4, 2020, at 6:59 AM PST
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  27. Amy Schley, Longcat Shrinker Moderator

    In North Carolina, with 100% of the precincts reporting, the count is:

    Trump 2,732,084

    Biden 2,655,383

    https://er.ncsbe.gov/?election_dt=11/03/2020&county_id=0&office=FED&contest=0

    There is no reason for NC to not have been called yet.

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    • November 4, 2020, at 7:05 AM PST
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  28. EHerring Coolidge

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Man of Consta… (View Comment):

    95% of Republicans support the President.

    “The President is not welcomed by the Republican Party!”

    That’s Biden-level delusional.

    Trump is unique in that, if memory serves, he is the first Republican nominee to only have a plurality and not a majority of primary votes in the primary era. This is due to our crazy “Plurality wins all delegates” rules. (In South Carolina, Trump won 33% of the vote, while Rubio and Cruz each won 22%. However, Trump won all 50 delegates.)

    We aren’t a parliamentary system in our state. Also, we don’t have Presidents determined by direct election by the people. Finally, we don’t need our EC votes nullified before they ever leave the state.

    • #88
    • November 4, 2020, at 7:05 AM PST
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  29. EHerring Coolidge

    DrewInWisconsin, Man of Consta… (View Comment):

    thelonious (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Man of Consta… (View Comment):

    So . . . this is how math works. We didn’t need NeverTrumpers in 2016. And given that there are even fewer of them in 2020, we didn’t need them this year either.

    The math checks out.

    So the Never Trumpers didn’t lose this election. Why the hostility towards them?

    The math checks out there, too.

    They helped foment the lies about Trump.

    • #89
    • November 4, 2020, at 7:06 AM PST
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  30. DrewInEastHillAutonomousZone Coolidge

    EHerring (View Comment):

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    So . . . this is how math works. We didn’t need NeverTrumpers in 2016. And given that there are even fewer of them in 2020, we didn’t need them this year either.

    The math checks out.

    So the Never Trumpers didn’t lose this election. Why the hostility towards them?

    The math checks out there, too.

    They helped foment the lies about Trump.

    They certainly did.

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    • November 4, 2020, at 7:06 AM PST
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