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As this report from July 2020 from the CDC was being put out, elderly residents in US nursing homes were already starting to die from “failure to thrive.”
Studies done on babies in orphanages showed that when there is minimal contact with other humans, even if meals, a clean shelter, and a bed are provided, a human being will die. The fragile elderly are in that same category as little babies. They need warmth and human companionship as much as a baby does.
Once the “National Emergency” status was pasted on the COVID-19 situation, Trump basically helped local health officials across America condemn only God knows how many people to death. As someone who has done home health care for disabled people and for the elderly, I can tell you that most fragile elderly look forward to their weekly or daily visits from family members. For that individual, the visits are not a courtesy, they are a necessity.
Here is the United States, people are living a long time. It is not uncommon to have the family matriarch be in her late 90’s, while the daughter who is now her only survivor is in her 70s. So you then have a situation where the family member is themselves too old to care for the elderly relative. Using great amounts of money, this elderly relative is then placed in a nursing home.
Once the COVID 19 “guidelines” came about, it was made impossible for the nursing home residents to have visitors, so huge health consequences arose. Since nothing good was happening for them, with one gray day fading into another, the elderly person would refuse to get out of bed. With family no longer checking on that person, the staff lets them stay in bed.
Two health consequences immediately arise. A person who is not moving about is much more likely to develop pneumonia. Also staying immobile in bed is a way to end up with bedsores. Bedsores can become severe conditions that basically begin to eat away at the flesh, both skin, and muscle. Then they end up if left untreated, exposing the person’s raw bone. This makes that individual’s entire body vulnerable to various ailments such as flesh-eating bacteria or a staph infection. A person can then end up dying from this condition. (And it is a most extremely unpleasant way to die.)
Anyway, this is the future that could await any one of us who is over the age of 65, as the bureaucrats who are feeding at the trough of Bill Gates and The WHO funds are actually coming for us.
From a July 2020 report by the CDC:
Interim Operational Considerations for Implementing the Shielding Approach to Prevent COVID-19 Infections in Humanitarian Settings
Updated July 26, 2020
This document presents considerations from the perspective of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control & Prevention (CDC) for implementing the shielding approach in humanitarian settings as outlined in guidance documents focused on camps, displaced populations and low-resource settings.1,2 This approach has never been documented and has raised questions and concerns among humanitarian partners who support response activities in these settings. The purpose of this document is to highlight potential implementation challenges of the shielding approach from CDC’s perspective and guide thinking around implementation in the absence of empirical data. Considerations are based on current evidence known about the transmission and severity of coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) and may need to be revised as more information becomes available. Please check the CDC website periodically for updates.
What is the Shielding Approach?
The shielding approach aims to reduce the number of severe COVID-19 cases by limiting contact between individuals at higher risk of developing severe disease (“high-risk”) and the general population (“low-risk”). High-risk individuals would be temporarily relocated to safe or “green zones” established at the household, neighborhood, camp/sector or community level depending on the context and setting.1,2 They would have minimal contact with family members and other low-risk residents.
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The happy and engaged senior citizen pictured below is obviously someone who is living either in a nursing home where people can visit or else is at home with her relatives. Although her image is from a stock photo set, she reminds me a great deal of a client I had who was 104 years old when I took care of her.
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  1. Sisyphus Coolidge
    SisyphusJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    What was tolerable for a two week tactical lockdown has morphed into catastrophe. My father is in a care facility under Newsom and cannot be reached by family. The number to use for that purpose is never answered. And, of course, visitation is impossible even for hospice cases.

    It is inhuman.

    Any number of measures could have been taken by now to facilitate family visitation, even if it meant remodeling an area with plexiglass barriers for visitation. 

    How has the recent court defeat affected Newsom’s orders in this area?

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    • November 3, 2020, at 11:45 AM PST
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  2. CarolJoy, Thread Hijacker Coolidge

    Sisyphus (View Comment):

    What was tolerable for a two week tactical lockdown has morphed into catastrophe. My father is in a care facility under Newsom and cannot be reached by family. The number to use for that purpose is never answered. And, of course, visitation is impossible even for hospice cases.

    It is inhuman.

    Any number of measures could have been taken by now to facilitate family visitation, even if it meant remodeling an area with plexiglass barriers for visitation.

    How has the recent court defeat affected Newsom’s orders in this area?

    I don’t know. Much has to be sorted out regarding this situation with the lawsuit.

    If we can locally get a group of people who are all concerned about the relatives in local care homes, and we choose to storm the Bastille, one facility at a time, maybe something can happen. It is obvious if only two people show up at a care facility and demand entrance, nothing will happen. But if 35 people show up, all at one location, then what?

    I know from my experiences that when I was hired to stay with someone at a nursing home, so many residents were just given minimal attention. The staff is overworked and underpaid, with the blame falling on them, but it should really fall on the Administrators.

    In addition to low pay etc, right now I imagine a lot of people are abandoning their jobs at these facilities. Who wants to be part of a eugenics situation that focuses on the frail elderly?

    Over on brandnewtube.com, David Icke gave his 35 minute show over to a care giver in England, and she talked about what it was like to do nursing in the facility that had hired her after the COVID measures were implemented. She ended up leaving. She simply could not face on a daily basis the overwhelming and senseless toll of death that the residents had been dealt out. It was painful just to hear her describe the hopelessness of the residents, the resulting pneumonias, and the bed sore situation.

     

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    • November 3, 2020, at 12:05 PM PST
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  3. CarolJoy, Thread Hijacker Coolidge

    Sisyphus (View Comment):

    What was tolerable for a two week tactical lockdown has morphed into catastrophe. My father is in a care facility under Newsom and cannot be reached by family. The number to use for that purpose is never answered. And, of course, visitation is impossible even for hospice cases.

    It is inhuman.

    Any number of measures could have been taken by now to facilitate family visitation, even if it meant remodeling an area with plexiglass barriers for visitation.

    How has the recent court defeat affected Newsom’s orders in this area?

    Also, I wonder if you can reach out to a County Senior Services group and have one of them as a social worker go to your father’s facility and do a “wellness check.” They should be available for you by calling the local Social Services org, where people go to apply for food stamps. All those workers are working out of their home right now, but they do help with making connections to the right support system and the right people inside that support system.

    Or if not a social worker, then the police?

    Is there a way to have a physician go in and visit. So you might have to lie, by saying you had heard via the grapevine your elderly relative does have pneumonia and you need to know if it is true.

    Also if there is a way to stop paying for the relative’s care, I bet that would get you entrance immediately to come and retrieve them.

    I can’t imagine what you are going through with this. I spent much of my younger years wishing my parents had been 12 years younger when they had me. Now I am glad they died before all this horror descended on us.

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    • November 3, 2020, at 12:12 PM PST
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  4. CarolJoy, Thread Hijacker Coolidge

    Sisyphus (View Comment):

    What was tolerable for a two week tactical lockdown has morphed into catastrophe. My father is in a care facility under Newsom and cannot be reached by family. The number to use for that purpose is never answered. And, of course, visitation is impossible even for hospice cases.

    It is inhuman.

    Any number of measures could have been taken by now to facilitate family visitation, even if it meant remodeling an area with plexiglass barriers for visitation.

    How has the recent court defeat affected Newsom’s orders in this area?

    Also it could be the Pacific Legal Foundation is a group you might want to reach out to. I believe their website is “org” rather than “com”

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    • November 3, 2020, at 12:25 PM PST
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  5. DonG (Biden is compromised) Coolidge

    Perhaps they could remake Cocoon with literal cocoons!

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    • November 3, 2020, at 12:27 PM PST
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  6. Sisyphus Coolidge
    SisyphusJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    I am remote, living here in Virginia. There is a second wife in the picture and my brother, locally. I will pass these ideas along, thank you.

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    • November 3, 2020, at 12:28 PM PST
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  7. Bruce Caward Thatcher
    Bruce CawardJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    This is the saddest thing I’ve read in months.

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    • November 3, 2020, at 4:05 PM PST
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  8. Bruce Caward Thatcher
    Bruce CawardJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    My heart is breaking for all the people who are suffering alone, discouraged, confused. Please please please, whoever wins tonight please stop wasting time and energy on children and college students who will all be fine, and redirect your efforts to getting these people what they need, which is company. Maybe some validation. Maybe some thanks. Possibly some love?

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    • November 3, 2020, at 4:11 PM PST
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  9. MichaelKennedy Coolidge

    I’m trying to understand why this is Trump’s fault. Some states are still in lockdown, some are open. It was the governors of NY and NJ who sent infected patients back to nursing homes. A large percentage of deaths from the Chinese virus are in four blue states.

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    • November 4, 2020, at 12:26 PM PST
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  10. CarolJoy, Thread Hijacker Coolidge

    MichaelKennedy (View Comment):

    I’m trying to understand why this is Trump’s fault. Some states are still in lockdown, some are open. It was the governors of NY and NJ who sent infected patients back to nursing homes. A large percentage of deaths from the Chinese virus are in four blue states.

    Trump had options other than declaring COVID a national emergency(NE). He could have gone about certain bans and certain activities without doing the NE declaration while making it known that he was considering a NE declaration.

    Once he made that declaration, he lost the ability to handle anything. Most important matters then fell into the laps of the designated health officials installed at NIH and in other agencies, due to the rules and regulations relating to how NE’s are handled once declared. He then was out of the loop.

    Due to the NE reducing the ability of the President to function, we watched as he “suggested” rather than ordered the use of HCQ.

    And why hasn’t HCQ been fast tracked into existence? Inside the Civil Code for vaccine mandates is an important clause that reads that only if there is no other method or manner of reducing a pandemic illness can a vaccine for that illness be given a Fed mandate.

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    • November 4, 2020, at 12:41 PM PST
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  11. Joseph Stanko Coolidge
    Joseph StankoJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Since when does quantity of life always trump quality of life? Isn’t this the same crowd that supports assisted suicide? I think euthanasia is always wrong, period, but I also think that many of the elderly have made their peace with death and are ready to go at the appointed hour. It should be up to them to decide if they are willing to accept the risk of COVID in order to see their grandchildren.

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    • November 4, 2020, at 2:27 PM PST
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  12. CarolJoy, Thread Hijacker Coolidge

    Sisyphus (View Comment):

    What was tolerable for a two week tactical lockdown has morphed into catastrophe. My father is in a care facility under Newsom and cannot be reached by family. The number to use for that purpose is never answered. And, of course, visitation is impossible even for hospice cases.

    SNIP

    Sisyphus,

    Here is the website for the Pacific Legal Foundation that I was talking about earlier:

    pacificlegal.org

     

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    • November 4, 2020, at 2:56 PM PST
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  13. Sisyphus Coolidge
    SisyphusJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    CarolJoy, Thread Hijacker (View Comment):

    Sisyphus (View Comment):

    What was tolerable for a two week tactical lockdown has morphed into catastrophe. My father is in a care facility under Newsom and cannot be reached by family. The number to use for that purpose is never answered. And, of course, visitation is impossible even for hospice cases.

    SNIP

    Sisyphus,

    Here is the website for the Pacific Legal Foundation that I was talking about earlier:

    pacificlegal.org

     

    Thank you.

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    • November 4, 2020, at 3:27 PM PST
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  14. MISTER BITCOIN Member

    MichaelKennedy (View Comment):

    I’m trying to understand why this is Trump’s fault. Some states are still in lockdown, some are open. It was the governors of NY and NJ who sent infected patients back to nursing homes. A large percentage of deaths from the Chinese virus are in four blue states.

    It’s not Trump’s fault — I love how Cuomo wrote a book about leadership and governing during a pandemic

    NY NJ CT MA

    I think these are the 4 states responsible for 33% of all ‘covid deaths’ in US

     

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    • November 4, 2020, at 6:54 PM PST
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  15. MarciN Member

    What I don’t understand is why nursing homes haven’t instituted a system in which visitors can wear disposable gowns, gloves, and masks. That’s what hospitals do in maternity wards to protect newborns. The dads are in the delivery rooms even for caesarians. The hospitals give them disposable versions of what the hospital staff is wearing.

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    • November 4, 2020, at 8:24 PM PST
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  16. MISTER BITCOIN Member

    MarciN (View Comment):

    What I don’t understand is why nursing homes haven’t instituted a system in which visitors can wear disposable gowns, gloves, and masks. That’s what hospitals do in maternity wards to protect newborns. The dads are in the delivery rooms even for caesarians. The hospitals give them disposable versions of what the hospital staff is wearing.

    I think some of the worst people work in nursing homes.

    Just a guess

     

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    • November 4, 2020, at 11:29 PM PST
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  17. Flicker Coolidge

    MISTER BITCOIN (View Comment):

    MarciN (View Comment):

    What I don’t understand is why nursing homes haven’t instituted a system in which visitors can wear disposable gowns, gloves, and masks. That’s what hospitals do in maternity wards to protect newborns. The dads are in the delivery rooms even for caesarians. The hospitals give them disposable versions of what the hospital staff is wearing.

    I think some of the worst people work in nursing homes.

    Just a guess

    Oh, yes. I got into it with a nurse at the long-term rehab facility my brother was at. All I wanted to know was if he was still alive, and the nurse started with a surly reproof of me saying I was calling back because I was cut off.

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    • November 4, 2020, at 11:33 PM PST
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  18. MISTER BITCOIN Member

    If you don’t have much time to live, do you really want to be sequestered by the state?

    Haven’t you lived long enough to determine what risk is acceptable for you?

     

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    • November 4, 2020, at 11:35 PM PST
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  19. The Reticulator Member

    MISTER BITCOIN (View Comment):

    MarciN (View Comment):

    What I don’t understand is why nursing homes haven’t instituted a system in which visitors can wear disposable gowns, gloves, and masks. That’s what hospitals do in maternity wards to protect newborns. The dads are in the delivery rooms even for caesarians. The hospitals give them disposable versions of what the hospital staff is wearing.

    I think some of the worst people work in nursing homes.

    Just a guess

    The exercise of power over patients is a corrupting influence, especially when the patients can make annoying demands and they have relatives who make annoying demands. It certainly would be a corrupting influence on me. (I won’t explain how I know this.) But there are some people who work in these places who are not so easily corrupted. We should treasure those people.

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    • November 5, 2020, at 5:53 AM PST
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