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Not having read Never Trumpers in a long time, I thought I would check in with the Never Trumpers to see how they are approaching the election. I settled on Dan McLaughlin at National Review, who has a long piece on his struggles with his vote tomorrow.

And I do mean long. The thing just goes on, and on, and on. It reminds me of an unpleasant tendency of Never Trumpers toward moral narcissism, as though the most important thing in the world is their moral purity.

Obsession with moral purity is not the same thing as moral virtue. The latter is the foundation of right conduct and, through the virtue of prudence, deciding the best course of action in any particular circumstance. The former confuses moral virtue with avoiding association with the allegedly morally tainted, as though voting for Donald Trump somehow makes one dirty.

Most moral decisions are straightforward. In this case, McLaughlin goes on at length about his pro-life principles and his commitment to the pro-life cause. After mentioning Trump’s positive pro-life record and the fact that Biden/Harris would be perhaps the most pro-abortion administration in history, he ends with this:

It is possible to justify voting Biden-Harris, or being indifferent between Biden-Harris and Trump-Pence, but no conscience can avoid the fact that this means choosing the death of many thousand innocents.

Ummm… how can one possibly justify voting Biden-Harris if you think it means choosing the death of many thousands of innocents? What could possibly weigh on the other side? I get it if you aren’t strongly pro-life. But McLaughlin insists he’s about as pro-life as they come.

After many more paragraphs of hand-wringing, we finally get the answer:

If I’m honest with myself, if I take this simply at the gut level, here is the dilemma: When I watch Trump, I just want to be done with him. I’ve had it. I’m sick of what he does to our politics and national discourse, and even to our brains and our friendships and neighborhoods….

I’m also really not sure I can look at myself in a mirror after voting for Trump. It is one thing to walk with Trump, on a transactional basis, thanking him when he does right, criticizing him when he does wrong, and hoping and trying to make him the best servant of the public we can get while he serves the term to which the voters have elected him. We can all do that with a clean conscience; it is a civic duty. We can do it again, if he is reelected. But it is another thing entirely to voluntarily choose four more years of this. Somebody has to stand up for the things we always said we believed; it should fall to those of us who still, publicly, believe those things.

So in the end, it’s just that McLaughlin won’t feel good about himself if he votes for Trump. He wants to be done with him. He wants to look at himself in the mirror and be proud of himself. Proud of what? That his moral purity is intact because he stood aside while a man who, by McLaughlin’s own analysis, will enable the deaths of thousands of innocents is elected? This isn’t moral analysis. It’s just moral narcissism.

And I just want to be done with it.

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  1. Flicker Coolidge

    James Lileks (View Comment):

    I think I pointed out a couple of weeks ago that huge crowds were actually chanting to Trump: We Love You! And I mentioned that I’ve never heard of any notable politician ever being told by his audience that they love him. And I know that critics say Trump leads a cult and this is cultish behavior. But it’s not. It’s a well-spring of thanks for a guy who took the blows he did for four years, and never gave up, and succeeded.

    And I haven’t been listening to his rallies for the past several days, and only listened to his last Lansing rally and the crowd did it again. And Trump answered back twice “I love you.” But he didn’t say it like a Romney or a Clinton might have, puffing out his chest and waving his arms and shouting back: “I! Love! You!” No, he said it quietly and almost intimately, as I suppose he might say it to his adult children or to an old friend. This is odd. This is strange. This is unprecedented.

    This isn’t Jim Jones or Hugo Chavez. This wasn’t playing to the crowd. This wasn’t self-serving. And I can’t go back five Why?s and get an answer. But it is something very different. And good.

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    • November 2, 2020, at 11:28 PM PST
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  2. Annefy Member

    Flicker (View Comment):

    James Lileks (View Comment):

    I think I pointed out a couple of weeks ago that huge crowds were actually chanting to Trump: We Love You! And I mentioned that I’ve never heard of any notable politician ever being told by his audience that they love him. And I know that critics say Trump leads a cult and this is cultish behavior. But it’s not. It’s a well-spring of thanks for a guy who took the blows he did for four years, and never gave up, and succeeded.

    And I haven’t been listening to his rallies for the past several days, and only listened to his last Lansing rally and the crowd did it again. And Trump answered back twice “I love you.” But he didn’t say it like a Romney or a Clinton might have, puffing out his chest and waving his arms and shouting back: “I! Love! You!” No, he said it quietly and almost intimately, as I suppose he might say it to his adult children or to an old friend. This is odd. This is strange. This is unprecedented.

    This isn’t Jim Jones or Hugo Chavez. This wasn’t playing to the crowd. This wasn’t self-serving. And I can’t go back five Why?s and get an answer. But it is something very different. And good.

    Pardon me if I get this wrong. Either Tucker or Laura (I’ve had the TV on all day. A first for me and it’s all a blur) addressed this in their open tonight. Whatever town DT was in was decimated first by off shoring. And no one cared. And then by opioid addiction. And no one cared.

    DT cares. He’s proven it over and over these past four years. He’s not going to send their sons and daughters off to a needless war, and he’s going to fight to bring jobs back. And he cares enough to fight for every single vote. His schedule these past few days proves that.

    People feel like he’s got their back. And he reacts like every other normal human being when he hears Y M C A. He dances

    Edited to add: it was Tucker. And here it is

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    • November 2, 2020, at 11:45 PM PST
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  3. Annefy Member

    lowtech redneck (View Comment):

    Henry Racette (View Comment):

    I was listening to Kevin Williamson on a podcast today, think it was the Mad Dogs and Englishmen podcast. He was talking about how, if he didn’t vote for Trump but Trump nonetheless won, he’d get the benefits of Trump without being made dirty.

    The word that comes to mind is “effete.” It isn’t a good look.

    I can think of a few other words…..

    I got your back @lowtech. I just said them. And probably a few more. 

    I remember arguing in 2016 that as a mother with four children, with two of them in the Marine Corps, I didn’t have the sort of luxury that KW describes. 

    My reaction of fury has not dimmed at all.

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    • November 2, 2020, at 11:51 PM PST
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  4. Flicker Coolidge

    Annefy (View Comment):
    People feel like he’s got their back. And he reacts like every other normal human being when he hears Y M C A. He dances 

    Yes, Trump’s normal. And he’s, believe it or not, kind. And he’s smart and he busts his butt. And he enjoys it. And I don’t think the audience would have said that if they hadn’t seen what he’s gone through. Over the last four years a bond has formed between them, between him and the American people.

    And then he said “I had a nice life; I had the greatest life. But you know what? This was the greatest decision I ever made…” and the crowd cheered him again. That’s why they come out. And that’s why they love him.

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    • November 3, 2020, at 12:23 AM PST
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  5. Randy Webster Member

    James Lileks (View Comment):
    Everything I feared about the left has come to pass.

    There’s still plenty to fear from the left: single-payer health care, court packing, the green new deal, and two new states.

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    • November 3, 2020, at 3:23 AM PST
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  6. J Climacus Member
    J Climacus

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Oh my, I see that Dan upset a whole bunch of people. However, what I got out of his article was that with Biden we have bad policies and with Trump we have a bad man. That really boiled things down for me.

    For better or worse, my focus is not on economic policy or environmental policy or fiscal policy. If you get any of these wrong, it can be fixed in future administrations. (How often has the top marginal rate gone up and down like a yo-yo between 36.0% and 39.6%?)

    What is fundamental to me is the Constitution and the Rule of Law. Aside from my morning prayers and surrendering my will and my life to God, that is the North Star that I salute each and every day. Character is the most important quality for me for a President. Intellectual honesty. Sobriety and rectitude. A commitment to something greater than one’s self. Heck, Ike was almost driven to distraction that he lied ONE TIME in his Presidency; Trump spits out a lie or exaggeration every other paragraph, if not every other sentence. Autocracy is the greatest evil our country faces. Trump is a bad man who would destroy the constitutional framework of this country if he can get away with it. He has already neutered the Republican Congress with the sole exception of Mitt Romney.

    I am going to hate some of Biden’s policies. I fear the Sanders/Warren/AOC progressives. But Biden, while misguided in his policies, is fundamentally a good and decent person, and Trump is fundamentally a bad, unfit and Un-American person.

    I didn’t so much vote for Joe Biden. I voted against Donald Trump. I prize my vote against Trump on par of when I voted for the Greatest President of the Twentieth Century, Ronald Wilson Reagan; both votes are the two sides of the same coin.

    Come on Gary. You can’t really think biden is a good man all politics aside. You really think he’s not a liar? That Corn Pop is real?

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    • November 3, 2020, at 4:06 AM PST
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  7. Gary Robbins Reagan

    J Climacus (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Oh my, I see that Dan upset a whole bunch of people. However, what I got out of his article was that with Biden we have bad policies and with Trump we have a bad man. That really boiled things down for me.

    For better or worse, my focus is not on economic policy or environmental policy or fiscal policy. If you get any of these wrong, it can be fixed in future administrations. (How often has the top marginal rate gone up and down like a yo-yo between 36.0% and 39.6%?)

    What is fundamental to me is the Constitution and the Rule of Law. Aside from my morning prayers and surrendering my will and my life to God, that is the North Star that I salute each and every day. Character is the most important quality for me for a President. Intellectual honesty. Sobriety and rectitude. A commitment to something greater than one’s self. Heck, Ike was almost driven to distraction that he lied ONE TIME in his Presidency; Trump spits out a lie or exaggeration every other paragraph, if not every other sentence. Autocracy is the greatest evil our country faces. Trump is a bad man who would destroy the constitutional framework of this country if he can get away with it. He has already neutered the Republican Congress with the sole exception of Mitt Romney.

    I am going to hate some of Biden’s policies. I fear the Sanders/Warren/AOC progressives. But Biden, while misguided in his policies, is fundamentally a good and decent person, and Trump is fundamentally a bad, unfit and Un-American person.

    I didn’t so much vote for Joe Biden. I voted against Donald Trump. I prize my vote against Trump on par of when I voted for the Greatest President of the Twentieth Century, Ronald Wilson Reagan; both votes are the two sides of the same coin.

    Come on Gary. You can’t really think biden is a good man all politics aside. You really think he’s not a liar? That Corn Pop is real?

    I do think that Biden is a good man. See the following ad, and the first 30 seconds of the CNN clip.

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    • November 3, 2020, at 4:13 AM PST
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  8. Biden Pure Demagogue Coolidge
    Biden Pure DemagogueJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Never Trump is a bondage, self flagellation, S&M fantasy role playing game. Its idolatrous self worship in which people luxuriate in a fantasy of the way politics should be rather than the reality of the way politics is. Donald Trump is the colonoscopy they’ve all been dreading which proves to the intestinal camera and the studio audience that Never Trumpers are simply full of it.

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    • November 3, 2020, at 4:14 AM PST
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  9. philo Member

    666 (View Comment):

    Never Trump is a bondage, self flagellation, S&M fantasy role playing game. Its idolatrous self worship in which people luxuriate in a fantasy of the way politics should be rather than the reality of the way politics is. Donald Trump is the colonoscopy they’ve all been dreading which proves to the intestinal camera and the studio audience that Never Trumpers are simply full of it.

    Perfectly timed for best effect. Nice job.

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    • November 3, 2020, at 4:26 AM PST
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  10. EDISONPARKS Member
    EDISONPARKSJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Oh my, I see that Dan upset a whole bunch of people. However, what I got out of his article was that with Biden we have bad policies and with Trump we have a bad man. That really boiled things down for me.

    For better or worse, my focus is not on economic policy or environmental policy or fiscal policy. If you get any of these wrong, it can be fixed in future administrations. (How often has the top marginal rate gone up and down like a yo-yo between 36.0% and 39.6%?)

    What is fundamental to me is the Constitution and the Rule of Law. Aside from my morning prayers and surrendering my will and my life to God, that is the North Star that I salute each and every day. Character is the most important quality for me for a President. Intellectual honesty. Sobriety and rectitude. A commitment to something greater than one’s self. Heck, Ike was almost driven to distraction that he lied ONE TIME in his Presidency; Trump spits out a lie or exaggeration every other paragraph, if not every other sentence. Autocracy is the greatest evil our country faces. Trump is a bad man who would destroy the constitutional framework of this country if he can get away with it. He has already neutered the Republican Congress with the sole exception of Mitt Romney.

    I am going to hate some of Biden’s policies. I fear the Sanders/Warren/AOC progressives. But Biden, while misguided in his policies, is fundamentally a good and decent person, and Trump is fundamentally a bad, unfit and Un-American person.

    I didn’t so much vote for Joe Biden. I voted against Donald Trump. I prize my vote against Trump on par of when I voted for the Greatest President of the Twentieth Century, Ronald Wilson Reagan; both votes are the two sides of the same coin.

    Obama/Biden and their corrupt FBI/DOJ/IC gave you 8 years of exactly what you claim Trump is doing:

    Autocracy is the greatest evil our country faces. Trump is a bad man who would destroy the constitutional framework of this country if he can get away with it.

    The Biden/(D)/MSM/BigTech are blatantly colluding to suppress newsworthy information in order to help the obviously mentally addled Joe Biden across the finish line and you persist that voting for Biden will make things better?

    If you would just go with you hate Trump because his personality grates on you, that would be much more logical than the nonsense you cobbled together above.

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    • November 3, 2020, at 5:00 AM PST
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  11. Dotorimuk Coolidge

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Oh my, I see that Dan upset a whole bunch of people. However, what I got out of his article was that with Biden we have bad policies and with Trump we have a bad man. That really boiled things down for me.

    For better or worse, my focus is not on economic policy or environmental policy or fiscal policy. If you get any of these wrong, it can be fixed in future administrations. (How often has the top marginal rate gone up and down like a yo-yo between 36.0% and 39.6%?)

    What is fundamental to me is the Constitution and the Rule of Law. Aside from my morning prayers and surrendering my will and my life to God, that is the North Star that I salute each and every day. Character is the most important quality for me for a President. Intellectual honesty. Sobriety and rectitude. A commitment to something greater than one’s self. Heck, Ike was almost driven to distraction that he lied ONE TIME in his Presidency; Trump spits out a lie or exaggeration every other paragraph, if not every other sentence. Autocracy is the greatest evil our country faces. Trump is a bad man who would destroy the constitutional framework of this country if he can get away with it. He has already neutered the Republican Congress with the sole exception of Mitt Romney.

    I am going to hate some of Biden’s policies. I fear the Sanders/Warren/AOC progressives. But Biden, while misguided in his policies, is fundamentally a good and decent person, and Trump is fundamentally a bad, unfit and Un-American person.

    I didn’t so much vote for Joe Biden. I voted against Donald Trump. I prize my vote against Trump on par of when I voted for the Greatest President of the Twentieth Century, Ronald Wilson Reagan; both votes are the two sides of the same coin.

    The evidence of fifty years in public life shows Biden is not a good man.

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    • November 3, 2020, at 5:02 AM PST
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  12. J Climacus Member
    J Climacus

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    J Climacus (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    What is fundamental to me is the Constitution and the Rule of Law. Aside from my morning prayers and surrendering my will and my life to God, that is the North Star that I salute each and every day. Character is the most important quality for me for a President. Intellectual honesty. Sobriety and rectitude. A commitment to something greater than one’s self. Heck, Ike was almost driven to distraction that he lied ONE TIME in his Presidency; Trump spits out a lie or exaggeration every other paragraph, if not every other sentence. Autocracy is the greatest evil our country faces. Trump is a bad man who would destroy the constitutional framework of this country if he can get away with it. He has already neutered the Republican Congress with the sole exception of Mitt Romney.

    I am going to hate some of Biden’s policies. I fear the Sanders/Warren/AOC progressives. But Biden, while misguided in his policies, is fundamentally a good and decent person, and Trump is fundamentally a bad, unfit and Un-American person.

    I didn’t so much vote for Joe Biden. I voted against Donald Trump. I prize my vote against Trump on par of when I voted for the Greatest President of the Twentieth Century, Ronald Wilson Reagan; both votes are the two sides of the same coin.

    Come on Gary. You can’t really think biden is a good man all politics aside. You really think he’s not a liar? That Corn Pop is real?

    I do think that Biden is a good man. See the following ad, and the first 30 seconds of the CNN clip.

    And here I thought I had you, Gary. I have to admire you for your willingness to go ahead and bite the bullet and keep saying with a straight face that Biden is your idea of a good man. I’ll assume by your lack of response that you also stand by Biden’s insistence that Corn Pop was a real person. That’s got to be difficult. But if you are a Never Trumper, there isn’t much choice is there, because what else have you got? The original Never Trump position was that Trump would be a disaster as President, but that’s too obviously false to maintain. So the final fallback position is Joe Biden is a good man.

    Wow.

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  13. Gary Robbins Reagan

    EDISONPARKS (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Oh my, I see that Dan upset a whole bunch of people. However, what I got out of his article was that with Biden we have bad policies and with Trump we have a bad man. That really boiled things down for me.

    For better or worse, my focus is not on economic policy or environmental policy or fiscal policy. If you get any of these wrong, it can be fixed in future administrations. (How often has the top marginal rate gone up and down like a yo-yo between 36.0% and 39.6%?)

    What is fundamental to me is the Constitution and the Rule of Law. Aside from my morning prayers and surrendering my will and my life to God, that is the North Star that I salute each and every day. Character is the most important quality for me for a President. Intellectual honesty. Sobriety and rectitude. A commitment to something greater than one’s self. Heck, Ike was almost driven to distraction that he lied ONE TIME in his Presidency; Trump spits out a lie or exaggeration every other paragraph, if not every other sentence. Autocracy is the greatest evil our country faces. Trump is a bad man who would destroy the constitutional framework of this country if he can get away with it. He has already neutered the Republican Congress with the sole exception of Mitt Romney.

    I am going to hate some of Biden’s policies. I fear the Sanders/Warren/AOC progressives. But Biden, while misguided in his policies, is fundamentally a good and decent person, and Trump is fundamentally a bad, unfit and Un-American person.

    I didn’t so much vote for Joe Biden. I voted against Donald Trump. I prize my vote against Trump on par of when I voted for the Greatest President of the Twentieth Century, Ronald Wilson Reagan; both votes are the two sides of the same coin.

    Obama/Biden and their corrupt FBI/DOJ/IC gave you 8 years of exactly what you claim Trump is doing:

    Autocracy is the greatest evil our country faces. Trump is a bad man who would destroy the constitutional framework of this country if he can get away with it.

    The Biden/(D)/MSM/BigTech are blatantly colluding to suppress newsworthy information in order to help the obviously mentally addled Joe Biden across the finish line and you persist that voting for Biden will make things better?

    If you would just go with you hate Trump because his personality grates on you, that would be much more logical than the nonsense you cobbled together above.

    While I despise Trump’s personality, what is most concerning is his total lack of character and integrity.

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    • November 3, 2020, at 5:05 AM PST
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  14. EDISONPARKS Member
    EDISONPARKSJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    666 (View Comment):

    Never Trump is a bondage, self flagellation, S&M fantasy role playing game. Its idolatrous self worship in which people luxuriate in a fantasy of the way politics should be rather than the reality of the way politics is. Donald Trump is the colonoscopy they’ve all been dreading which proves to the intestinal camera and the studio audience that Never Trumpers are simply full of it.

    Can comments be promoted to the Main Feed?

    Copy this as an Original Post

    Better yet nail it to Rob, Jonah, JPod’s, etc. front door.

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    • November 3, 2020, at 5:05 AM PST
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  15. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
    Bryan G. StephensJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    EDISONPARKS (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Oh my, I see that Dan upset a whole bunch of people. However, what I got out of his article was that with Biden we have bad policies and with Trump we have a bad man. That really boiled things down for me.

    For better or worse, my focus is not on economic policy or environmental policy or fiscal policy. If you get any of these wrong, it can be fixed in future administrations. (How often has the top marginal rate gone up and down like a yo-yo between 36.0% and 39.6%?)

    What is fundamental to me is the Constitution and the Rule of Law. Aside from my morning prayers and surrendering my will and my life to God, that is the North Star that I salute each and every day. Character is the most important quality for me for a President. Intellectual honesty. Sobriety and rectitude. A commitment to something greater than one’s self. Heck, Ike was almost driven to distraction that he lied ONE TIME in his Presidency; Trump spits out a lie or exaggeration every other paragraph, if not every other sentence. Autocracy is the greatest evil our country faces. Trump is a bad man who would destroy the constitutional framework of this country if he can get away with it. He has already neutered the Republican Congress with the sole exception of Mitt Romney.

    I am going to hate some of Biden’s policies. I fear the Sanders/Warren/AOC progressives. But Biden, while misguided in his policies, is fundamentally a good and decent person, and Trump is fundamentally a bad, unfit and Un-American person.

    I didn’t so much vote for Joe Biden. I voted against Donald Trump. I prize my vote against Trump on par of when I voted for the Greatest President of the Twentieth Century, Ronald Wilson Reagan; both votes are the two sides of the same coin.

    Obama/Biden and their corrupt FBI/DOJ/IC gave you 8 years of exactly what you claim Trump is doing:

    Autocracy is the greatest evil our country faces. Trump is a bad man who would destroy the constitutional framework of this country if he can get away with it.

    The Biden/(D)/MSM/BigTech are blatantly colluding to suppress newsworthy information in order to help the obviously mentally addled Joe Biden across the finish line and you persist that voting for Biden will make things better?

    If you would just go with you hate Trump because his personality grates on you, that would be much more logical than the nonsense you cobbled together above.

    While I despise Trump’s personality, what is most concerning is his total lack of character and integrity.

    Just like Biden.

    You just choose to ignore all the Biden evidence. The proven plagiarism, the credibile sexual harassment, the bragging about getting a prosecutor fired, the smelling of hair, the made up corn pop, thr nasty statements about physical fighting Trump. Biden has a long history of nasty character on display that you just dismiss. It shows you are not at all objective but consumed.

    Sad.

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    • November 3, 2020, at 5:11 AM PST
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  16. EDISONPARKS Member
    EDISONPARKSJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    J Climacus (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Oh my, I see that Dan upset a whole bunch of people. However, what I got out of his article was that with Biden we have bad policies and with Trump we have a bad man. That really boiled things down for me.

    For better or worse, my focus is not on economic policy or environmental policy or fiscal policy. If you get any of these wrong, it can be fixed in future administrations. (How often has the top marginal rate gone up and down like a yo-yo between 36.0% and 39.6%?)

    What is fundamental to me is the Constitution and the Rule of Law. Aside from my morning prayers and surrendering my will and my life to God, that is the North Star that I salute each and every day. Character is the most important quality for me for a President. Intellectual honesty. Sobriety and rectitude. A commitment to something greater than one’s self. Heck, Ike was almost driven to distraction that he lied ONE TIME in his Presidency; Trump spits out a lie or exaggeration every other paragraph, if not every other sentence. Autocracy is the greatest evil our country faces. Trump is a bad man who would destroy the constitutional framework of this country if he can get away with it. He has already neutered the Republican Congress with the sole exception of Mitt Romney.

    I am going to hate some of Biden’s policies. I fear the Sanders/Warren/AOC progressives. But Biden, while misguided in his policies, is fundamentally a good and decent person, and Trump is fundamentally a bad, unfit and Un-American person.

    I didn’t so much vote for Joe Biden. I voted against Donald Trump. I prize my vote against Trump on par of when I voted for the Greatest President of the Twentieth Century, Ronald Wilson Reagan; both votes are the two sides of the same coin.

    Come on Gary. You can’t really think biden is a good man all politics aside. You really think he’s not a liar? That Corn Pop is real?

    I do think that Biden is a good man. See the following ad, and the first 30 seconds of the CNN clip.

    You have obviously never heard of The First Law of Holes:

    The first law of holes, or the law of holes, is an adage which states: “if you find yourself in a hole, stop digging“. Digging a hole makes it deeper and therefore harder to get out of, which is used as a metaphor that when in an untenable position, it is best to stop carrying on and exacerbating the situation.

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    • November 3, 2020, at 5:12 AM PST
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  17. Annefy Member

    Bryan G. Stephens, Trump Aveng… (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Oh my, I see that Dan upset a whole bunch of people. However, what I got out of his article was that with Biden we have bad policies and with Trump we have a bad man. That really boiled things down for me.

    For better or worse, my focus is not on economic policy or environmental policy or fiscal policy. If you get any of these wrong, it can be fixed in future administrations. (How often has the top marginal rate gone up and down like a yo-yo between 36.0% and 39.6%?)

    What is fundamental to me is the Constitution and the Rule of Law. Aside from my morning prayers and surrendering my will and my life to God, that is the North Star that I salute each and every day. Character is the most important quality for me for a President. Intellectual honesty. Sobriety and rectitude. A commitment to something greater than one’s self. Heck, Ike was almost driven to distraction that he lied ONE TIME in his Presidency; Trump spits out a lie or exaggeration every other paragraph, if not every other sentence. Autocracy is the greatest evil our country faces. Trump is a bad man who would destroy the constitutional framework of this country if he can get away with it. He has already neutered the Republican Congress with the sole exception of Mitt Romney.

    I am going to hate some of Biden’s policies. I fear the Sanders/Warren/AOC progressives. But Biden, while misguided in his policies, is fundamentally a good and decent person, and Trump is fundamentally a bad, unfit and Un-American person.

    I didn’t so much vote for Joe Biden. I voted against Donald Trump. I prize my vote against Trump on par of when I voted for the Greatest President of the Twentieth Century, Ronald Wilson Reagan; both votes are the two sides of the same coin.

    Obama/Biden and their corrupt FBI/DOJ/IC gave you 8 years of exactly what you claim Trump is doing:

    Autocracy is the greatest evil our country faces. Trump is a bad man who would destroy the constitutional framework of this country if he can get away with it.

    Snip 

    While I despise Trump’s personality, what is most concerning is his total lack of character and integrity.

    Just like Biden.

    You just choose to ignore all the Biden evidence. The proven plagiarism, the credibile sexual harassment, the bragging about getting a prosecutor fired, the smelling of hair, the made up corn pop, thr nasty statements about physical fighting Trump. Biden has a long history of nasty character on display that you just dismiss. It shows you are not at all objective but consumed.

    Sad.

    Don’t forget repeatedly claiming the man involved in the accident that killed his wife and daughter was drunk. Even after being asked to stop 

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    • November 3, 2020, at 5:42 AM PST
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  18. EDISONPARKS Member
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    Oh my, I see that Dan upset a whole bunch of people. However, what I got out of his article was that with Biden we have bad policies and with Trump we have a bad man. That really boiled things down for me.

    For better or worse, my focus is not on economic policy or environmental policy or fiscal policy. If you get any of these wrong, it can be fixed in future administrations. (How often has the top marginal rate gone up and down like a yo-yo between 36.0% and 39.6%?)

    What is fundamental to me is the Constitution and the Rule of Law. Aside from my morning prayers and surrendering my will and my life to God, that is the North Star that I salute each and every day. Character is the most important quality for me for a President. Intellectual honesty. Sobriety and rectitude. A commitment to something greater than one’s self. Heck, Ike was almost driven to distraction that he lied ONE TIME in his Presidency; Trump spits out a lie or exaggeration every other paragraph, if not every other sentence. Autocracy is the greatest evil our country faces. Trump is a bad man who would destroy the constitutional framework of this country if he can get away with it. He has already neutered the Republican Congress with the sole exception of Mitt Romney.

    I am going to hate some of Biden’s policies. I fear the Sanders/Warren/AOC progressives. But Biden, while misguided in his policies, is fundamentally a good and decent person, and Trump is fundamentally a bad, unfit and Un-American person.

    I didn’t so much vote for Joe Biden. I voted against Donald Trump. I prize my vote against Trump on par of when I voted for the Greatest President of the Twentieth Century, Ronald Wilson Reagan; both votes are the two sides of the same coin.

    Obama/Biden and their corrupt FBI/DOJ/IC gave you 8 years of exactly what you claim Trump is doing:

    Autocracy is the greatest evil our country faces. Trump is a bad man who would destroy the constitutional framework of this country if he can get away with it.

    The Biden/(D)/MSM/BigTech are blatantly colluding to suppress newsworthy information in order to help the obviously mentally addled Joe Biden across the finish line and you persist that voting for Biden will make things better?

    If you would just go with you hate Trump because his personality grates on you, that would be much more logical than the nonsense you cobbled together above.

    While I despise Trump’s personality, what is most concerning is his total lack of character and integrity.

    My point is Joe Biden is much much worse when measuring lack of character and integrity.

    Your most logical solution would be to write in Evan McMullin again.

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    • November 3, 2020, at 5:51 AM PST
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  19. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    Annefy (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens, Trump Aveng… (View Comment):

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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Oh my, I see that Dan upset a whole bunch of people. However, what I got out of his article was that with Biden we have bad policies and with Trump we have a bad man. That really boiled things down for me.

    For better or worse, my focus is not on economic policy or environmental policy or fiscal policy. If you get any of these wrong, it can be fixed in future administrations. (How often has the top marginal rate gone up and down like a yo-yo between 36.0% and 39.6%?)

    What is fundamental to me is the Constitution and the Rule of Law. Aside from my morning prayers and surrendering my will and my life to God, that is the North Star that I salute each and every day. Character is the most important quality for me for a President. Intellectual honesty. Sobriety and rectitude. A commitment to something greater than one’s self. Heck, Ike was almost driven to distraction that he lied ONE TIME in his Presidency; Trump spits out a lie or exaggeration every other paragraph, if not every other sentence. Autocracy is the greatest evil our country faces. Trump is a bad man who would destroy the constitutional framework of this country if he can get away with it. He has already neutered the Republican Congress with the sole exception of Mitt Romney.

    I am going to hate some of Biden’s policies. I fear the Sanders/Warren/AOC progressives. But Biden, while misguided in his policies, is fundamentally a good and decent person, and Trump is fundamentally a bad, unfit and Un-American person.

    I didn’t so much vote for Joe Biden. I voted against Donald Trump. I prize my vote against Trump on par of when I voted for the Greatest President of the Twentieth Century, Ronald Wilson Reagan; both votes are the two sides of the same coin.

    Obama/Biden and their corrupt FBI/DOJ/IC gave you 8 years of exactly what you claim Trump is doing:

    Autocracy is the greatest evil our country faces. Trump is a bad man who would destroy the constitutional framework of this country if he can get away with it.

    Snip

    While I despise Trump’s personality, what is most concerning is his total lack of character and integrity.

    Just like Biden.

    You just choose to ignore all the Biden evidence. The proven plagiarism, the credibile sexual harassment, the bragging about getting a prosecutor fired, the smelling of hair, the made up corn pop, thr nasty statements about physical fighting Trump. Biden has a long history of nasty character on display that you just dismiss. It shows you are not at all objective but consumed.

    Sad.

    Don’t forget repeatedly claiming the man involved in the accident that killed his wife and daughter was drunk. Even after being asked to stop

    I forgot that! 

    But, Gary says Biden is a man of good Character. 

    This actually is a great point. One of the things Gary had droned on about, it Trump’s accusation about Cruz’s dad, something Ted Cruz has clearly forgiven Trump for, but Gary remains offended about. Here we have what I would consider normal mudslinging in a campaign. I did not like it at the time, but I am not voting for a saint. But, Biden was attacking a man who happened to be in an accident with his wife where she and her daughter died. He had to live with those deaths. Horrible. But, to @garyrobbins, Biden is a man of good character, even though he was despicable in his treatment of this man. 

    Objectively, (and I fully expect Gary to ignore all of this, just as he ignores all evidence he does not like – just like a typical leftist) Biden is not better character a man than Trump. 

     

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  20. Bob Wainwright Member

    James Lileks (View Comment):

    I was listening to a Trumpstumper this morning while I walked the dog. One of what, ten speeches he gave yesterday? Rambling, riffing, conversational, amusing. I thought: he’s having fun. I thought: I have never liked this guy, but that’s not the right metric. I’ve never clicked with this guy. Even back in the 80s. He comes from a different place. The playboy mogul braggadocio, the Howard Stern suck-up sessions, it all left me cold.

    I agreed with him a lot of stuff, but you’ll eventually agree with someone who talks as much as he does.

    Here’s the thing, and I’ve said it before: none of the things I feared came to pass. Everything I feared about the left has come to pass. I was hard-core NT in 2016 – I regarded this as wise move for the future of the movement, but it also masqueraded a self-flattering position that just happened to coincide with one’s desire to be thought of as a man of virtue.

    This year’s vote is refreshingly free of posturing and agonizing. Which, I suppose, is a sign I have lost my moral compass and joined a tribe so I can shake my spear with all my new friends. Nah.

    One more thing: I imagine Trump and Biden visiting our family gas station. Trump would be interested in the operation, because I think he’s always interested in how people manage to make money. It’s a frequency some people feel. He’d note how he reduced regulation on our operation and brought gas prices down, way down, it’s a beautiful thing. Biden would have had advance men make sure the owners were Democrats, then he’d talk about transitioning away from the gas pumps to EV changing stations, and how he’d sign legislation to make it so.

    TBH Trump is still something of a Sphinx to me. But the practical effect of his tenancy in office is what matters.

    Rush Limbaugh was on Fox and friends this morning, talking about how Trump has done everything Never Trumpers have been asking for for years, but they don’t appear to care or even want it. 

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  21. Henry Racette Contributor

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    What is fundamental to me is the Constitution and the Rule of Law.

    I don’t believe you. No disrespect intended, but I think this is something you’re telling yourself so that you can justify doing what you want to do.

    There is every reason to believe that the Constitution is in greater danger with Democrats in office. Both recent experience and the promise of what’s to come tells us that.

    In the meantime, the current President has been appointing a large number of Constitutional originalists — probably the single greatest effort any President can make to defend the Constitution and the rule of law.

    The myth that this is a lawless President who threatens the Constitution is one of the say-it-enough-and-everyone-believes-it stories that litter our media and popular culture. For whatever peculiar reason — and I won’t credit it to his robust ideological embrace of Constitutional government, since I don’t think he has any — this President has nonetheless been a defender of the Constitution and of law and order, at a time when his opposition seems bent on transforming the former and ignoring the latter.

    So come up with another justification for doing what you want to do, because that dog won’t hunt.

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  22. Gary Robbins Reagan

    EDISONPARKS (View Comment):

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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Oh my, I see that Dan upset a whole bunch of people. However, what I got out of his article was that with Biden we have bad policies and with Trump we have a bad man. That really boiled things down for me.

    For better or worse, my focus is not on economic policy or environmental policy or fiscal policy. If you get any of these wrong, it can be fixed in future administrations. (How often has the top marginal rate gone up and down like a yo-yo between 36.0% and 39.6%?)

    What is fundamental to me is the Constitution and the Rule of Law. Aside from my morning prayers and surrendering my will and my life to God, that is the North Star that I salute each and every day. Character is the most important quality for me for a President. Intellectual honesty. Sobriety and rectitude. A commitment to something greater than one’s self. Heck, Ike was almost driven to distraction that he lied ONE TIME in his Presidency; Trump spits out a lie or exaggeration every other paragraph, if not every other sentence. Autocracy is the greatest evil our country faces. Trump is a bad man who would destroy the constitutional framework of this country if he can get away with it. He has already neutered the Republican Congress with the sole exception of Mitt Romney.

    I am going to hate some of Biden’s policies. I fear the Sanders/Warren/AOC progressives. But Biden, while misguided in his policies, is fundamentally a good and decent person, and Trump is fundamentally a bad, unfit and Un-American person.

    I didn’t so much vote for Joe Biden. I voted against Donald Trump. I prize my vote against Trump on par of when I voted for the Greatest President of the Twentieth Century, Ronald Wilson Reagan; both votes are the two sides of the same coin.

    Obama/Biden and their corrupt FBI/DOJ/IC gave you 8 years of exactly what you claim Trump is doing:

    Autocracy is the greatest evil our country faces. Trump is a bad man who would destroy the constitutional framework of this country if he can get away with it.

    The Biden/(D)/MSM/BigTech are blatantly colluding to suppress newsworthy information in order to help the obviously mentally addled Joe Biden across the finish line and you persist that voting for Biden will make things better?

    If you would just go with you hate Trump because his personality grates on you, that would be much more logical than the nonsense you cobbled together above.

    While I despise Trump’s personality, what is most concerning is his total lack of character and integrity.

    My point is Joe Biden is much much worse when measuring lack of character and integrity.

    Your most logical solution would be to write in Evan McMullin again.

    Evan McMullin endorsed Biden.

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    • November 3, 2020, at 6:12 AM PST
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  23. Bob Wainwright Member

    Dotorimuk (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Oh my, I see that Dan upset a whole bunch of people. However, what I got out of his article was that with Biden we have bad policies and with Trump we have a bad man. That really boiled things down for me.

    For better or worse, my focus is not on economic policy or environmental policy or fiscal policy. If you get any of these wrong, it can be fixed in future administrations. (How often has the top marginal rate gone up and down like a yo-yo between 36.0% and 39.6%?)

    What is fundamental to me is the Constitution and the Rule of Law. Aside from my morning prayers and surrendering my will and my life to God, that is the North Star that I salute each and every day. Character is the most important quality for me for a President. Intellectual honesty. Sobriety and rectitude. A commitment to something greater than one’s self. Heck, Ike was almost driven to distraction that he lied ONE TIME in his Presidency; Trump spits out a lie or exaggeration every other paragraph, if not every other sentence. Autocracy is the greatest evil our country faces. Trump is a bad man who would destroy the constitutional framework of this country if he can get away with it. He has already neutered the Republican Congress with the sole exception of Mitt Romney.

    I am going to hate some of Biden’s policies. I fear the Sanders/Warren/AOC progressives. But Biden, while misguided in his policies, is fundamentally a good and decent person, and Trump is fundamentally a bad, unfit and Un-American person.

    I didn’t so much vote for Joe Biden. I voted against Donald Trump. I prize my vote against Trump on par of when I voted for the Greatest President of the Twentieth Century, Ronald Wilson Reagan; both votes are the two sides of the same coin.

    The evidence of fifty years in public life shows Biden is not a good man.

    Gary doesn’t have any evidence or reason to believe that Biden’s a good man. All he has are the warm fuzzies that he feels when he sees Biden talk compared to how he feels when he hears Trump. 

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    • November 3, 2020, at 6:14 AM PST
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  24. Gary Robbins Reagan

    Henry Racette (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    What is fundamental to me is the Constitution and the Rule of Law.

    I don’t believe you. No disrespect intended, but I think this is something you’re telling yourself so that you can justify doing what you want to do.

    There is every reason to believe that the Constitution is in greater danger with Democrats in office. Both recent experience and the promise of what’s to come tells us that.

    In the meantime, the current President has been appointing a large number of Constitutional originalists — probably the single greatest effort any President can make to defend the Constitution and the rule of law.

    The myth that this is a lawless President who threatens the Constitution is one of the say-it-enough-and-everyone-believes-it stories that litter our media and popular culture. For whatever peculiar reason — and I won’t credit it to his robust ideological embrace of Constitutional government, since I don’t think he has any — this President has nonetheless been a defender of the Constitution and of law and order, at a time when his opposition seems bent on transforming the former and ignoring the latter.

    So come up with another justification for doing what you want to do, because that dog won’t hunt.

    Hi Henry,

    I think that we will need to agree to disagree.

    Gary

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    • November 3, 2020, at 6:14 AM PST
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  25. EDISONPARKS Member
    EDISONPARKSJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    EDISONPARKS (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    EDISONPARKS (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Oh my, I see that Dan upset a whole bunch of people. However, what I got out of his article was that with Biden we have bad policies and with Trump we have a bad man. That really boiled things down for me.

    For better or worse, my focus is not on economic policy or environmental policy or fiscal policy. If you get any of these wrong, it can be fixed in future administrations. (How often has the top marginal rate gone up and down like a yo-yo between 36.0% and 39.6%?)

    What is fundamental to me is the Constitution and the Rule of Law. Aside from my morning prayers and surrendering my will and my life to God, that is the North Star that I salute each and every day. Character is the most important quality for me for a President. Intellectual honesty. Sobriety and rectitude. A commitment to something greater than one’s self. Heck, Ike was almost driven to distraction that he lied ONE TIME in his Presidency; Trump spits out a lie or exaggeration every other paragraph, if not every other sentence. Autocracy is the greatest evil our country faces. Trump is a bad man who would destroy the constitutional framework of this country if he can get away with it. He has already neutered the Republican Congress with the sole exception of Mitt Romney.

    I am going to hate some of Biden’s policies. I fear the Sanders/Warren/AOC progressives. But Biden, while misguided in his policies, is fundamentally a good and decent person, and Trump is fundamentally a bad, unfit and Un-American person.

    I didn’t so much vote for Joe Biden. I voted against Donald Trump. I prize my vote against Trump on par of when I voted for the Greatest President of the Twentieth Century, Ronald Wilson Reagan; both votes are the two sides of the same coin.

    Obama/Biden and their corrupt FBI/DOJ/IC gave you 8 years of exactly what you claim Trump is doing:

    Autocracy is the greatest evil our country faces. Trump is a bad man who would destroy the constitutional framework of this country if he can get away with it.

    The Biden/(D)/MSM/BigTech are blatantly colluding to suppress newsworthy information in order to help the obviously mentally addled Joe Biden across the finish line and you persist that voting for Biden will make things better?

    If you would just go with you hate Trump because his personality grates on you, that would be much more logical than the nonsense you cobbled together above.

    While I despise Trump’s personality, what is most concerning is his total lack of character and integrity.

    My point is Joe Biden is much much worse when measuring lack of character and integrity.

    Your most logical solution would be to write in Evan McMullin again.

    Evan McMullin endorsed Biden.

    Be smarter and more logical than Evan and write in Evan, that way you did not vote for Biden who has far less character and integrity than Trump.

    You’re welcome.

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  26. Gary Robbins Reagan

    EDISONPARKS (View Comment):

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    EDISONPARKS (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Oh my, I see that Dan upset a whole bunch of people. However, what I got out of his article was that with Biden we have bad policies and with Trump we have a bad man. That really boiled things down for me.

    For better or worse, my focus is not on economic policy or environmental policy or fiscal policy. If you get any of these wrong, it can be fixed in future administrations. (How often has the top marginal rate gone up and down like a yo-yo between 36.0% and 39.6%?)

    What is fundamental to me is the Constitution and the Rule of Law. Aside from my morning prayers and surrendering my will and my life to God, that is the North Star that I salute each and every day. Character is the most important quality for me for a President. Intellectual honesty. Sobriety and rectitude. A commitment to something greater than one’s self. Heck, Ike was almost driven to distraction that he lied ONE TIME in his Presidency; Trump spits out a lie or exaggeration every other paragraph, if not every other sentence. Autocracy is the greatest evil our country faces. Trump is a bad man who would destroy the constitutional framework of this country if he can get away with it. He has already neutered the Republican Congress with the sole exception of Mitt Romney.

    I am going to hate some of Biden’s policies. I fear the Sanders/Warren/AOC progressives. But Biden, while misguided in his policies, is fundamentally a good and decent person, and Trump is fundamentally a bad, unfit and Un-American person.

    I didn’t so much vote for Joe Biden. I voted against Donald Trump. I prize my vote against Trump on par of when I voted for the Greatest President of the Twentieth Century, Ronald Wilson Reagan; both votes are the two sides of the same coin.

    Obama/Biden and their corrupt FBI/DOJ/IC gave you 8 years of exactly what you claim Trump is doing:

    Autocracy is the greatest evil our country faces. Trump is a bad man who would destroy the constitutional framework of this country if he can get away with it.

    The Biden/(D)/MSM/BigTech are blatantly colluding to suppress newsworthy information in order to help the obviously mentally addled Joe Biden across the finish line and you persist that voting for Biden will make things better?

    If you would just go with you hate Trump because his personality grates on you, that would be much more logical than the nonsense you cobbled together above.

    While I despise Trump’s personality, what is most concerning is his total lack of character and integrity.

    My point is Joe Biden is much much worse when measuring lack of character and integrity.

    Your most logical solution would be to write in Evan McMullin again.

    Evan McMullin endorsed Biden.

    Be smarter and more logical than Evan and write in Evan, that way you did not vote for Biden who has far less character and integrity than Trump.

    Your welcome.

    Did you mean to say “You’re welcome”?

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    • November 3, 2020, at 6:23 AM PST
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  27. EDISONPARKS Member
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  28. EHerring Coolidge

    Henry Racette (View Comment):

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    Henry Racette (View Comment):

    I was listening to Kevin Williamson on a podcast today, think it was the Mad Dogs and Englishmen podcast. He was talking about how, if he didn’t vote for Trump but Trump nonetheless won, he’d get the benefits of Trump without being made dirty.

    The word that comes to mind is “effete.” It isn’t a good look.

    I can think of a few other words…..

    Wouldn’t surprise me if that was why it was edited.

    Heh.

    No. I fixed the word “won.” When I’m tired, after a long day, I have a tendency to substitute homonyms — and, of course, a spell checker won’t catch that. I’d written “nonetheless one.”

    But I get your point.

    I always have to edit posts – need to undo Apple autocorrect.

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    • November 3, 2020, at 6:33 AM PST
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  29. EDISONPARKS Member
    EDISONPARKSJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    EDISONPARKS (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    EDISONPARKS (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    EDISONPARKS (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Oh my, I see that Dan upset a whole bunch of people. However, what I got out of his article was that with Biden we have bad policies and with Trump we have a bad man. That really boiled things down for me.

    For better or worse, my focus is not on economic policy or environmental policy or fiscal policy. If you get any of these wrong, it can be fixed in future administrations. (How often has the top marginal rate gone up and down like a yo-yo between 36.0% and 39.6%?)

    What is fundamental to me is the Constitution and the Rule of Law. Aside from my morning prayers and surrendering my will and my life to God, that is the North Star that I salute each and every day. Character is the most important quality for me for a President. Intellectual honesty. Sobriety and rectitude. A commitment to something greater than one’s self. Heck, Ike was almost driven to distraction that he lied ONE TIME in his Presidency; Trump spits out a lie or exaggeration every other paragraph, if not every other sentence. Autocracy is the greatest evil our country faces. Trump is a bad man who would destroy the constitutional framework of this country if he can get away with it. He has already neutered the Republican Congress with the sole exception of Mitt Romney.

    I am going to hate some of Biden’s policies. I fear the Sanders/Warren/AOC progressives. But Biden, while misguided in his policies, is fundamentally a good and decent person, and Trump is fundamentally a bad, unfit and Un-American person.

    I didn’t so much vote for Joe Biden. I voted against Donald Trump. I prize my vote against Trump on par of when I voted for the Greatest President of the Twentieth Century, Ronald Wilson Reagan; both votes are the two sides of the same coin.

    Obama/Biden and their corrupt FBI/DOJ/IC gave you 8 years of exactly what you claim Trump is doing:

    Autocracy is the greatest evil our country faces. Trump is a bad man who would destroy the constitutional framework of this country if he can get away with it.

    The Biden/(D)/MSM/BigTech are blatantly colluding to suppress newsworthy information in order to help the obviously mentally addled Joe Biden across the finish line and you persist that voting for Biden will make things better?

    If you would just go with you hate Trump because his personality grates on you, that would be much more logical than the nonsense you cobbled together above.

    While I despise Trump’s personality, what is most concerning is his total lack of character and integrity.

    My point is Joe Biden is much much worse when measuring lack of character and integrity.

    Your most logical solution would be to write in Evan McMullin again.

    Evan McMullin endorsed Biden.

    Be smarter and more logical than Evan and write in Evan, that way you did not vote for Biden who has far less character and integrity than Trump.

    Your welcome.

    Did you mean to say “You’re welcome”?

    Yes.

    I make many spelling/misused word errors undetectable to spell check as I try to multi task at work and waste my time and energy commenting on Ricochet.

    Form instead of From, double The The, are my favorites.

    I usually catch them when I go back and read the comment later.

    Tank yoo

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  30. EHerring Coolidge

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Oh my, I see that Dan upset a whole bunch of people. However, what I got out of his article was that with Biden we have bad policies and with Trump we have a bad man. That really boiled things down for me.

    For better or worse, my focus is not on economic policy or environmental policy or fiscal policy. If you get any of these wrong, it can be fixed in future administrations. (How often has the top marginal rate gone up and down like a yo-yo between 36.0% and 39.6%?)

    What is fundamental to me is the Constitution and the Rule of Law. Aside from my morning prayers and surrendering my will and my life to God, that is the North Star that I salute each and every day. Character is the most important quality for me for a President. Intellectual honesty. Sobriety and rectitude. A commitment to something greater than one’s self. Heck, Ike was almost driven to distraction that he lied ONE TIME in his Presidency; Trump spits out a lie or exaggeration every other paragraph, if not every other sentence. Autocracy is the greatest evil our country faces. Trump is a bad man who would destroy the constitutional framework of this country if he can get away with it. He has already neutered the Republican Congress with the sole exception of Mitt Romney.

    I am going to hate some of Biden’s policies. I fear the Sanders/Warren/AOC progressives. But Biden, while misguided in his policies, is fundamentally a good and decent person, and Trump is fundamentally a bad, unfit and Un-American person.

    I didn’t so much vote for Joe Biden. I voted against Donald Trump. I prize my vote against Trump on par of when I voted for the Greatest President of the Twentieth Century, Ronald Wilson Reagan; both votes are the two sides of the same coin.

    My only take-away from your posts is that you only care about good manners. I can’t fault a desire for good manners. I don’t take you seriously on anything else. I don’t even dislike you, like some do. I just find you tediously boring. There is room for all of us in ricochet. I just prefer to follow others, though. Your posts have no purpose.

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    • November 3, 2020, at 6:43 AM PST
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