Recommended by Ricochet Members Created with Sketch. There Are No Major Left-Wing Political Parties in the United States

 

My youngest daughter sat down next to me yesterday and said, “Hey Dad, watch this.” She typed ‘Antifa.com’ into Google on her cell phone, hit enter, and it took her to a fund-raising site for Biden / Harris. Try it yourself. Antifa is pretty far left; it’s little more than a leftist revolutionary group like you can find anywhere else in the world. Various leaders in The American Communist Party have endorsed Biden, as well. They are not running their own presidential candidate this year, in fear of siphoning off some of Biden’s voters. Because they know that communists will vote for Biden, not for Trump.

And I found something else online today, try it yourself. Go to Wikipedia, and type in “American Left.” I did so on my phone, and pasted the screen shot at right. If you can’t read it, I’ll reproduce the first sentence of the second paragraph for you: “Although left-wing politics came to the United States in the 19th century, there are no major left-wing political parties in the United States.” Again, that is from the non-partisan Wikipedia. Imagine how far left someone has to be to not see the Democrat party as a left-wing party. You’d have to be further left than Antifa and The American Communist Party, apparently. But that perspective is not considered leftist, it’s considered neutral. Again: that perspective is not considered leftist. It’s considered neutral.

Perhaps the reason that ‘there are no major left-wing political parties in the United States‘ is that our leftists are so surrounded by hard-core radical leftism that it seems neutral to them.

So if you don’t want a right-wing radical like Trump, just vote for Biden! He’s a moderate! According to CNN! And Wikipedia! And The New York Times! And the educational establishment! And Hollywood!

And if Biden is a moderate, and Trump is a right-wing radical, guess what that makes you?

Exactly right: Deplorable.

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  1. Gazpacho Grande' Coolidge

    Well. That’s pretty interesting.

    Political repression has also contributed to the weakness of the left in the United States. Many cities had Red Squads to monitor and disrupt leftist groups in response to labor unrest such as the Haymarket Riot.[17] During World War II, the Smith Act made membership in revolutionary groups illegal. After the war, Senator Joseph McCarthy used the Smith Act to launch a crusade (McCarthyism) to purge alleged communists from government and the media. In the 1960s, the FBI‘s COINTELPRO program monitored, infiltrated, disrupted and discredited radical groups in the United States.[18] In 2008, Maryland police were revealed to have added the names and personal information of anti-war protesters and death penalty opponents to a database which was intended to be used for tracking terrorists.[19] Terry Turchie, a former deputy assistant director of the FBI’s Counter-terrorism Division, admitted that “one of the missions of the FBI in its counterintelligence efforts was to try to keep these people (progressives and self-described socialists) out of office”.[20]

    So – there’s no left, because The Man has kept the left down, for decades?

    Wiki lives in a world different from mine.

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  2. namlliT noD Member
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    Dr. Bastiat: My youngest daughter sat down next to me yesterday and said, “Hey Dad, watch this.” She typed ‘Antifa.com’ into Google on her cell phone, hit enter, and it took her to a fund-raising site for Biden / Harris. Try it yourself.

    Um, that was the work of Trump campaign staff. They purchased the domain “antifa.com” and had it forward to the Biden campaign.

    6-Dimensional Chess and all.

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    • November 2, 2020, at 1:42 PM PST
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  3. Dr. Bastiat Member
    Dr. Bastiat

    namlliT noD (View Comment):

    Dr. Bastiat: My youngest daughter sat down next to me yesterday and said, “Hey Dad, watch this.” She typed ‘Antifa.com’ into Google on her cell phone, hit enter, and it took her to a fund-raising site for Biden / Harris. Try it yourself.

    Um, that was the work of Trump campaign staff. They purchased the domain “antifa.com” and had it forward to the Biden campaign.

    6-Dimensional Chess and all.

    Really? Wow! That’s incredible!

    I don’t think Mitt Romney would have done that…

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    • November 2, 2020, at 1:51 PM PST
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  4. Preston Storm Coolidge

    Nobody agrees on the same terms anymore or at the very least they don’t define them prior to debate. Ask someone that says there isn’t a left-wing political party to define left-wing. They probably can’t.

    Living in Missouri I’d get queasy when they’d call Claire McCaskill a moderate. Only her rhetoric made her a moderate, not her positions. Same for Kamala or Buttigieg. 

    Goes both ways though. I turn my head a little sideways when somebody starts touting Trump’s “conservatism”.

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    • November 2, 2020, at 1:53 PM PST
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  5. namlliT noD Member
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    Dr. Bastiat (View Comment):

    namlliT noD (View Comment):

    Dr. Bastiat: My youngest daughter sat down next to me yesterday and said, “Hey Dad, watch this.” She typed ‘Antifa.com’ into Google on her cell phone, hit enter, and it took her to a fund-raising site for Biden / Harris. Try it yourself.

    Um, that was the work of Trump campaign staff. They purchased the domain “antifa.com” and had it forward to the Biden campaign.

    6-Dimensional Chess and all.

    Really? Wow! That’s incredible!

    I don’t think Mitt Romney would have done that…

    The Trump campaign staff is really energetic and creative. They can turn a Biden gaffe into a fundraising product in an hour or two.

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  6. Kozak Member
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    Dr. Bastiat (View Comment):

    namlliT noD (View Comment):

    Dr. Bastiat: My youngest daughter sat down next to me yesterday and said, “Hey Dad, watch this.” She typed ‘Antifa.com’ into Google on her cell phone, hit enter, and it took her to a fund-raising site for Biden / Harris. Try it yourself.

    Um, that was the work of Trump campaign staff. They purchased the domain “antifa.com” and had it forward to the Biden campaign.

    6-Dimensional Chess and all.

    Really? Wow! That’s incredible!

    I don’t think Mitt Romney would have done that…

    Wouldn’t be sporting old chap.

     

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    • November 2, 2020, at 2:00 PM PST
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  7. namlliT noD Member
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    Does “right wing” even have a definition?

    Or is it just a pejorative?

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    • November 2, 2020, at 2:03 PM PST
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  8. Percival Thatcher
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    Kozak (View Comment):

    Dr. Bastiat (View Comment):

    namlliT noD (View Comment):

    Dr. Bastiat: My youngest daughter sat down next to me yesterday and said, “Hey Dad, watch this.” She typed ‘Antifa.com’ into Google on her cell phone, hit enter, and it took her to a fund-raising site for Biden / Harris. Try it yourself.

    Um, that was the work of Trump campaign staff. They purchased the domain “antifa.com” and had it forward to the Biden campaign.

    6-Dimensional Chess and all.

    Really? Wow! That’s incredible!

    I don’t think Mitt Romney would have done that…

    Wouldn’t be sporting old chap.

     

    Never would have occurred to him.

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  9. Stad Coolidge

    Dr. Bastiat: non-partisan Wikipedia

    Oxymoron . . .

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    • November 2, 2020, at 2:12 PM PST
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  10. Kozak Member
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    Sure thing

    Republicans are “Right Wing”, Extreme Right Wing”, “Ultra Right Wing”.

    Democrats are “Moderate”, “Centrist”, “Pragmatists”.

    The Democratic Socialist Party, Socialist Party, Communist Party, don’t exist.

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  11. Jon1979 Lincoln

    You see something like this and think “Who are they trying to fool?” But then you remember how many millennial now say they’re OK with Socialism, because they’ve been taught in school it’s all rainbows and unicorns for everyone, and you realize the answer is “The next generation of voters.

    The goal is the same as the big media outlets, who say (and some may actually believe) that the Democratic Party is middle-of-the-road and the Republicans are nothing but a bunch of crazed alt-right fascists (yes, even you John Kasich, if you ever think of running for president on the GOP side again). The idea is to teach the kids that while America isn’t a one-party state, it should be, because only one party holds ideas that shouldn’t be considered beyond-the-pale and banned, First Amendment notwithstanding. And the hope is that mentality will dominate soon, especially as the Baby Boomers (ages 56-74) and the Gen Xers (40-55) die off.

     

     

     

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  12. Miffed White Male Member
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    The reason so many people believe “there are no left wing parties is America” is because in Europe they’ve got the real out in the open marxist parties, as opposed to the neo-marxism of the American left.

    And “everybody” knows that everything in America would be better if we were more like Europe.

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  13. Manny Member

    Republicans in Congress have to come down hard on these internet social media companies. This has to be priority one. Break them up. They have a monopoly that is detrimental to free thinking, and therefore elections. 

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  14. Goldgeller Member

    The American intellectual left has a bit of an obsession with wanting be like Europe.

    But I think I get the claim. My understanding is that if one plots the Dem and Rep parties and the European parties on an left-right issue space the US democratic party is a party Europeans would recognize as moderate or moderate right…. This, I guess… I don’t have an issue with. If you have to arbitrarily fix one party as very liberal, you will probably find some really liberal party in Sweden or some place in Europe and most parties except the US parties will often be easily predicted to have party planks that align with it more frequently, thus dragging the scales and the other parties left, except US parties. So that, in and of itself, doesn’t surprise me.

    I’d just be more clear about what is specifically being measured. America has a clearly defined left and right party. Compared to many Europe and the Scandinavian countries, the major US left party looks moderate to mod-right.

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    • November 2, 2020, at 4:58 PM PST
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  15. Percival Thatcher
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    Goldgeller (View Comment):
    But I think I get the claim. My understanding is that if one plots the Dem and Rep parties and the European parties on an left-right issue space the US democratic party is a party Europeans would recognize as moderate or moderate right….

    But Goldgeller … this is America. Our forefathers left those plodders and plonkers back in the Old Country years ago.

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  16. Saint Augustine Member

    Goldgeller (View Comment):

    The American intellectual left has a bit of an obsession with wanting be like Europe.

    But I think I get the claim. My understanding is that if one plots the Dem and Rep parties and the European parties on an left-right issue space the US democratic party is a party Europeans would recognize as moderate or moderate right…. This, I guess… I don’t have an issue with. If you have to arbitrarily fix one party as very liberal, you will probably find some really liberal party in Sweden or some place in Europe and most parties except the US parties will often be easily predicted to have party planks that align with it more frequently, thus dragging the scales and the other parties left, except US parties. So that, in and of itself, doesn’t surprise me.

    I’d just be more clear about what is specifically being measured. America has a clearly defined left and right party. Compared to many Europe and the Scandinavian countries, the major US left party looks moderate to mod-right.

    Well, . . . some of them European countries actually have some settled laws protecting at least some unborn life. The Dems are ultra radical by comparison. Scandinavian countries are in the 70s and 80s range in the Index of Economic Liberty. Sanders and AOC and Warren would probably drop the US to the 60s or even 40s or 30s if they could.

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  17. Goldgeller Member

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    Goldgeller (View Comment):

    The American intellectual left has a bit of an obsession with wanting be like Europe.

    But I think I get the claim. My understanding is that if one plots the Dem and Rep parties and the European parties on an left-right issue space the US democratic party is a party Europeans would recognize as moderate or moderate right…. This, I guess… I don’t have an issue with. If you have to arbitrarily fix one party as very liberal, you will probably find some really liberal party in Sweden or some place in Europe and most parties except the US parties will often be easily predicted to have party planks that align with it more frequently, thus dragging the scales and the other parties left, except US parties. So that, in and of itself, doesn’t surprise me.

    I’d just be more clear about what is specifically being measured. America has a clearly defined left and right party. Compared to many Europe and the Scandinavian countries, the major US left party looks moderate to mod-right.

    Well, . . . some of them European countries actually have some settled laws protecting at least some unborn life. The Dems are ultra radical by comparison. Scandinavian countries are in the 70s and 80s range in the Index of Economic Liberty. Sanders and AOC and Warren would probably drop the US to the 60s or even 40s or 30s if they could.

    I was surprised to find out just how (comparatively) permissive our abortion regime is and that we are actually somewhat of an outlier among Western/Anglo countries in the whole “birthright citizenship” thing. 

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  18. Miffed White Male Member
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    Goldgeller (View Comment):

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    Goldgeller (View Comment):

    The American intellectual left has a bit of an obsession with wanting be like Europe.

    But I think I get the claim. My understanding is that if one plots the Dem and Rep parties and the European parties on an left-right issue space the US democratic party is a party Europeans would recognize as moderate or moderate right…. This, I guess… I don’t have an issue with. If you have to arbitrarily fix one party as very liberal, you will probably find some really liberal party in Sweden or some place in Europe and most parties except the US parties will often be easily predicted to have party planks that align with it more frequently, thus dragging the scales and the other parties left, except US parties. So that, in and of itself, doesn’t surprise me.

    I’d just be more clear about what is specifically being measured. America has a clearly defined left and right party. Compared to many Europe and the Scandinavian countries, the major US left party looks moderate to mod-right.

    Well, . . . some of them European countries actually have some settled laws protecting at least some unborn life. The Dems are ultra radical by comparison. Scandinavian countries are in the 70s and 80s range in the Index of Economic Liberty. Sanders and AOC and Warren would probably drop the US to the 60s or even 40s or 30s if they could.

    I was surprised to find out just how (comparatively) permissive our abortion regime is and that we are actually somewhat of an outlier among Western/Anglo countries in the whole “birthright citizenship” thing.

    Just like most people who talk about moving to Canada or some other country if Trump wins have never actually looked into what it takes to get permanent residency in most other countries. Especially if you intend to work for a living. They don’t want you.

    One of my former employers had an official policy that for anyone traveling to our Canadian office, when asked at the airport the purpose of the visit, they were to respond “pleasure”, because they got tired of having people turned back at the border (for taking jobs from Canadians).

     

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  19. Percival Thatcher
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    Jon1979 (View Comment):
    You see something like this and think “Who are they trying to fool?” But then you remember how many millennial now say they’re OK with Socialism, because they’ve been taught in school it’s all rainbows and unicorns for everyone, and you realize the answer is “The next generation of voters.

    Whatever happened to “don’t trust anyone over thirty?”

    By the time I let eighth grade (yes — on time!) I was fully aware that at least 70% of my teachers were dolts.

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  20. Jon1979 Lincoln

    Percival (View Comment):

    Jon1979 (View Comment):
    You see something like this and think “Who are they trying to fool?” But then you remember how many millennial now say they’re OK with Socialism, because they’ve been taught in school it’s all rainbows and unicorns for everyone, and you realize the answer is “The next generation of voters.

    Whatever happened to “don’t trust anyone over thirty?”

    By the time I let eighth grade (yes — on time!) I was fully aware that at least 70% of my teachers were dolts.

    My eighth grade history teach came straight from the Ford Foundation, and tried to indoctrinate the classes with tales of the evils of Western Civilization. So all the crap going on today I got a taste of 50 years ago in the NYC public school system.

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  21. David Carroll Thatcher
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    namlliT noD (View Comment):

    Dr. Bastiat: My youngest daughter sat down next to me yesterday and said, “Hey Dad, watch this.” She typed ‘Antifa.com’ into Google on her cell phone, hit enter, and it took her to a fund-raising site for Biden / Harris. Try it yourself.

    Um, that was the work of Trump campaign staff. They purchased the domain “antifa.com” and had it forward to the Biden campaign.

    6-Dimensional Chess and all.

    So the Antifa folks would know to where to donate to a candidate sympathetic to them for the election?

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  22. namlliT noD Member
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    David Carroll (View Comment):

    namlliT noD (View Comment):

    Dr. Bastiat: My youngest daughter sat down next to me yesterday and said, “Hey Dad, watch this.” She typed ‘Antifa.com’ into Google on her cell phone, hit enter, and it took her to a fund-raising site for Biden / Harris. Try it yourself.

    Um, that was the work of Trump campaign staff. They purchased the domain “antifa.com” and had it forward to the Biden campaign.

    6-Dimensional Chess and all.

    So the Antifa folks would know to where to donate to a candidate sympathetic to them for the election?

    Yep.

    And it links Biden to Antifa for Google searches.

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    • November 3, 2020, at 8:47 AM PST
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  23. Stad Coolidge

    Goldgeller (View Comment):
    The American intellectual left has a bit of an obsession with wanting be like Europe.

    I’ve always wondered, “Then why don’t you just go there and live?”

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    • November 3, 2020, at 10:37 AM PST
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  24. Henry Castaigne Member

    Conservatives need to explain their philosophy as an ideology supported by morality and empiricism. This requires logic and knowledge. The left says that everything they believe in is self-evidently moral and they don’t need to explain. They only need to shame and make the weak-minded conform.

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  25. Goldgeller Member

    Stad (View Comment):

    Goldgeller (View Comment):
    The American intellectual left has a bit of an obsession with wanting be like Europe.

    I’ve always wondered, “Then why don’t you just go there and live?”

    Hahah yep. Same. I guess… If you think Europe is good because the intellectual class has a lot more control and you think you’re in the intellectual class here [America] it makes sense to just sorta try and take control where you are instead of hoping to be a hanger-on at the London School of Economics.

    If everything is subject to a really simple “do what I say” policy lever (conditional on “getting the right people in charge”) then there is no reason why Edmond Oklahoma or Jackson Mississippi can’t be the next London. Get rid of the saboteurs in the electorate and give the right people the power to enforce “sensible” policy and it’s golden. That, at any rate, is the aspirational argument… I guess. 

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  26. Hartmann von Aue Member

    “The non-partisan Wikipedia”- easily the funniest thing I’ve on Ricochet today. 

    Now to get on Wikipedia and try to correct their entry on the Sad Puppies again. 

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    • November 3, 2020, at 11:41 AM PST
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  27. Percival Thatcher
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    Hartmann von Aue (View Comment):

    “The non-partisan Wikipedia”- easily the funniest thing I’ve on Ricochet today.

    Now to get on Wikipedia and try to correct their entry on the Sad Puppies again.

    If you go back farther in history, the wokesters start to lose the thread and interfere less and less.

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  28. No Caesar Thatcher
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    I hate Wikipedia. I wish they’d go bankrupt. But as long as George Soros is alive they’re funded.

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    • November 3, 2020, at 11:14 PM PST
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  29. Henry Castaigne Member

    No Caesar (View Comment):

    I hate Wikipedia. I wish they’d go bankrupt. But as long as George Soros is alive they’re funded.

    Why don’t conservatives fund Wikipedia?

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  30. Hartmann von Aue Member

    Henry Castaigne (View Comment):

    No Caesar (View Comment):

    I hate Wikipedia. I wish they’d go bankrupt. But as long as George Soros is alive they’re funded.

    Why don’t conservatives fund Wikipedia?

    Well, there is Conservapedia…..https://conservapedia.com/Main_Page 

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    • November 4, 2020, at 12:30 AM PST
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