Biden Confused by Free Speech

 

Biden campaign picture of protest

Evidence provided by Biden campaign of terrifying protesters flying American flags on a public highway, new Covid-19 restrictions expected in response.

After encountering Trump supporter escorts as their campaign bus traveled in the Lone Star State, the Biden campaign expressed concern about the exercise of First Amendment rights on public highways, reported by Jack Phillips in the Epoch Times:

“Rather than engage in productive conversation about the drastically different visions that Joe Biden and Donald Trump have for our country, Trump supporters in Texas today instead decided to put our staff, surrogates, supporters, and others in harm’s way,” Biden campaign Texas communications director Tariq Thowfeek told news outlets, confirming several events would be canceled in the state.

“Our supporters will continue to organize their communities for Joe Biden, Kamala Harris and Democrats up and down the ballot, and to the Texans who disrupted our events today: We’ll see you on November 3rd,” Thowfeek said. The campaign also told other news outlets that the events were canceled out of an abundance of caution.

In some reports, Biden personnel claim a minor collision between a protester vehicle and a Biden staff vehicle, and an attempt to run the bus off the road. Police wrote no tickets, made no arrests, and no vehicles were run off the road or disabled. It’s not like they were traveling in a lawless wasteland like Portland, Seattle, Chicago, New York, Oakland….

After billions in damage, dozens of murders, hundreds of burned-out city blocks, thousands of shuttered businesses, and millions of jobs destroyed by his astroturf rioters, Joe has finally discovered where he draws the line on free speech. Antifa is just an idea. Texans, though, Texans are obviously extremist terrorists. The man who has tacitly supported the use of frozen bottles, Molotov cocktails, and laser weapons with impunity against America’s police now draws a line.

Don’t forget to vote.

PS: CNN reports that the FBI is investigating this incident as harassment. They are already preparing for the new order.

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  1. TBA Coolidge
    TBA
    @RobtGilsdorf

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    If I were the hearing officer and I had any person who had blocked the traffic before me I would set bail as high as possible, and upon sentencing, would hammer them into the ground. If I had an Antifa person before me, I would hammer them also.

    Except that didn’t happen, so why are you even talking about what you would have done about it if you were a judge which is something that you aren’t. 

    • #31
  2. Quietpi Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Why in the world are Trump supporters blocking the Garden State Parkway, the freeway that runs along the eastern side of New Jersey?

    Okay, so first, this is not from the Texas incident.  Nothing of the sort pictured here occurred in Texas.  Second, the cars are pointing the wrong direction.  Next, while I can’t see details on the vehicles furthest from the camera, any blockade of this sort, on a major roadway, would have dozens, or more like hundreds of cars built up in less that a minute.  So what gives? And what difference does it make for the present matter?  

    • #32
  3. Percival Thatcher
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    TBA (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    But worse was the reaction of his father. Again from CNN:

    “President Donald Trump tweeted a video of the bus incident with the words ‘I LOVE TEXAS!’ on Saturday, and claimed at a campaign rally on Sunday that his supporters were ‘protecting’ the bus.”

    I was born at night, but I wasn’t born last night. While I am mindful of Godwin’s law, this type of behavior reminds me of passages in Eric Larson’s book “In the Garden of the Beasts: Love, Terror, and an American Family in Hitler’s Berlin” which is set in Germany in the early thirties where people would be yanked off the streets by brown shirts and beaten up. What happened in Texas is a far cry from that, but candidly I cannot remember such political intimidation in my lifetime of people whose only crime is to drive down the freeway. At a minimum, we are seeing behavior such as that cited David Frum in the November 2020 issue of The Atlantic, “Last Exit From Autocracy.” https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/11/last-exit-trump-autocracy/616466/

    “I’m not calling Trump a Nazi-nazi, buuuuut….”

    I agree with Joe Biden who told reporters in Texas Sunday evening, “We’ve never had anything like this.” “At least we’ve never had a president who thinks it’s a good thing,” Biden said.

    I have been criticized for contributing to the Biden campaign. After seeing his behavior of Trump supporters, egged on by Trump and his son, I do not regret a penny of the money I gave to Biden, and I wish that I had given more.

    You’ve bought the pre-digested narrative despite zero video evidence.

    You assume that Trump believes what you believe and blessed it anyway – again, with zero evidence.

    Worse than that. Gary is accepting CNN as a creditable news source.

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  4. Gary Robbins Member
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    Bryan G. Stephens, Trump Aveng… (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Seawriter (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens, Trump Aveng… (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    If I were the hearing officer and I had any person who had blocked the traffic before me I would set bail as high as possible, and upon sentencing, would hammer them into the ground. If I had an Antifa person before me, I would hammer them also.

    I do not believe you.

     

    What? You don’t believe Gary would set bail as high as possible for a Trump supporter? I sure do. I have to admit, I don’t believe he would hammer someone from from Antifa, though. Although he would probably Biden that situation by claiming Antifa is only an idea and not a real organization. He’d be looking at them with the same peril-sensitive glasses he uses when he looks at Biden’s campaign promises, as well.

    I would hammer anyone who blocked traffic, be they a Trump supporter, a Biden supporter, or a member of Antifa. Wouldn’t you?

    There is no bias involved in being a hanging judge, only a hanging judge who punishes only one side.

    I do not believe you. You have said nothing about the riots and mobs. You can’t even bring yourself to condemn them.

    I do not trust you.

    Give me a CoC break.  Of course, I condemn the riots and mobs.  How the CoC can I be a Reagan Conservative and not condemn violence.  I condemn ALL of them:  Antifa, Bernie Bros and Trump Thugs alike.  No violence, period.  You commit violence, you get arrested and go to jail.     

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  5. Gary Robbins Member
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    Seawriter (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    I would hammer anyone who blocked traffic, be they a Trump supporter, a Biden supporter, or a member of Antifa. Wouldn’t you?

    I am sure you actually believe that. Just like Judge Sullivan believes he can impartially judge the Michael Flynn case.

    Whether I would or not is irrellevant as to what biases you would carry into a case. On the other hand, I notice you did not state you would judge all cases with equal impartiality, just that you would hammer them. If you hammered the Trump supporter with a 10-pound sledge and the Antifa member with a tack hammer you could argue you had hammered them both.

    Give me a break.  You are almost as bad as [deleted].  No violence, be that person Antifa, a Bernie Bros or a Trump Thug.  

    • #35
  6. Gary Robbins Member
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    TBA (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    In March 2016, a group of protestors blocked traffic seeking to stop people from attending a Trump rally in Fountain Hills, Arizona. https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/03/19/protesters-block-road-ahead-donald-trump-rally/82014310/. They were arrested and, if memory serves, the Arizona Legislature increased the penalties for such conduct. It was completely wrong for those protestors to do this, and I am glad that they were arrested and prosecuted. If memory served, no responsible political leader suggested that these criminals were justified in their behavior.

    Contrast this with the Biden bus incident. According to CNN article https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/01/politics/fbi-investigating-biden-bus-trump/index.html which is cited in Comment #11,

    “The incident took place in Texas on Friday as the campaign bus was traveling from San Antonio to Austin as part of a push to urge Biden supporters to cast their ballots on the state’s last day of early voting. A Biden campaign official described the motorists’ actions as an attempt to slow down the bus and run it off the road.  People in vehicles that were part of a ‘Trump Train’ began yelling profanities and obscenities and then blockaded the entire Biden entourage, according to a source familiar with the incident.”

    Is there evidence to support these claims?

    From Drudge and CNN:  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8903577/New-footage-shows-50-strong-MAGA-train-convoy-ambushed-Biden-bus.html.  https://newyork.cbslocal.com/2020/11/01/trump-caravan-maga-drag-gov-mario-cuomo-bridge-garden-state-parkway/.  https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/01/politics/fbi-investigating-biden-bus-trump/index.html.  https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/01/opinions/trump-dangerous-praise-texas-obeidallah/index.html

    “At one point they slowed the tour bus to roughly 20 mph on Interstate 35, the campaign official said. The vehicles slowed down to try to stop the bus in the middle of the highway. The source said there were nearly 100 vehicles around the campaign bus. Biden staffers were rattled by the event, the source said, though no one was hurt.”

    Can we please agree that it is wholly inappropriate to stop an opposing political vehicle on the interstate? Can we please agree that it is wholly inappropriate for nearly 100 vehicles to swarm a campaign bus?

    Nobody stopped the vehicle, did they? Why would you even ask about this? But wth, I’ll play; it is wrong to stop any vehicle on the interstate. Politics doesn’t enter into it.

    This gets much, much worse. You would think that Republican Leaders would be encouraging their followers to back off. You would be wrong.

    A few days earlier, Donald Trump, Jr. posted a video saying “It’d be great if you guys would get together, head down to McAllen and give Kamala Harris a nice Trump Train welcome. Get out there, have some fun, enjoy it. Don’t forget to vote and bring all of your friends. Let’s show them how strong Texas still is as Trump country. Get out there, guys.” This helped set up this climate.

    Away with you and your Trump-caused climate change.

    And now Trump is questioning the FBI for investigating this series of crimes.

    Let me say this.  I donated hundreds of dollars to Democrats to rid our nation of Trump and Trumpism.  I wish that I had given thousands of dollars.  I bought and gave away some $2,000 worth of t-shirts saying “Republicans for Biden” or “Republican Voters Against Trump.”  I wish that I had given away twice as much.  I have worn those t-shirts for the last two months.  I wish that I had worn them for the last four months.

    We must drive a wooden stake into the heart of Trump and Trumpism and the notion that it is appropriate to play high speed games on the highways shows how far the great Republican Party has fallen in thrall to the Trump Crime family shows us how much fumigation will be required.

    • #36
  7. TBA Coolidge
    TBA
    @RobtGilsdorf

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens, Trump Aveng… (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Seawriter (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens, Trump Aveng… (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    If I were the hearing officer and I had any person who had blocked the traffic before me I would set bail as high as possible, and upon sentencing, would hammer them into the ground. If I had an Antifa person before me, I would hammer them also.

    I do not believe you.

     

    What? You don’t believe Gary would set bail as high as possible for a Trump supporter? I sure do. I have to admit, I don’t believe he would hammer someone from from Antifa, though. Although he would probably Biden that situation by claiming Antifa is only an idea and not a real organization. He’d be looking at them with the same peril-sensitive glasses he uses when he looks at Biden’s campaign promises, as well.

    I would hammer anyone who blocked traffic, be they a Trump supporter, a Biden supporter, or a member of Antifa. Wouldn’t you?

    There is no bias involved in being a hanging judge, only a hanging judge who punishes only one side.

    I do not believe you. You have said nothing about the riots and mobs. You can’t even bring yourself to condemn them.

    I do not trust you.

    Give me a CoC break. Of course, I condemn the riots and mobs. How the CoC can I be a Reagan Conservative and not condemn violence. I condemn ALL of them: Antifa, Bernie Bros and Trump Thugs alike. No violence, period. You commit violence, you get arrested and go to jail.

    “Violence.” 

    • #37
  8. TBA Coolidge
    TBA
    @RobtGilsdorf

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    And now Trump is questioning the FBI for investigating this series of crimes.

    Let me say this. I donated hundreds of dollars to Democrats to rid our nation of Trump and Trumpism. I wish that I had given thousands of dollars. I bought and gave away some $2,000 worth of t-shirts saying “Republicans for Biden” or “Republican Voters Against Trump.” I wish that I had given away twice as much. I have worn those t-shirts for the last two months. I wish that I had worn them for the last four months.

    We must drive a wooden stake into the heart of Trump and Trumpism and the notion that it is appropriate to play high speed games on the highways shows how far the great Republican Party has fallen in thrall to the Trump Crime family shows us how much fumigation will be required.

    Are you the same guy who accused Don Trump Jr. of “contributing to a climate”? 

     

    • #38
  9. Gary Robbins Member
    Gary Robbins
    @GaryRobbins

    This is what am I up to.  I am striving to reach “The Bannon Line,” named for Steve Bannon who stated that if only 4% (or one in 25) of the Republicans who voted for Trump in 2016 did not vote for him in 2020, he would not be re-elected.  That is my goal, to turn at least 4% of Republicans in my area against Trump.  We don’t have to convince every Republican to defeat Trump, just 4%.  For more information, read this article from the October 1, 2020 issue of The Bulwark:  https://thebulwark.com/reaching-the-bannon-line/.  Think of it, I was able to send out into the world 130 Republicans sporting a t-shirts declaring themselves to be Republicans and declaring their opposition to Trump.  I wonder how many people saw those t-shirts and then had the permission structure to break from Trump?  

    In 2008 and 2012, McCain and Romney won Arizona by 9 points.  Trump won Arizona in 2016 by only 3 points.  I did my part in Coconino County and some 900 people in this small county wrote in Evan McMullin’s name, compared to about 20 people for the next highest write-in candidate.  We got .85% of the vote, which is exceptional for any Presidential write-in candidate without any radio, tv or newspaper ads.  I was the Coconino County Contact person for the McMullin campaign.  

    Coconino County is the third or fourth most Democrat County out of 15 counties in Arizona.  Hillary beat Trump by some 11,400 votes in this county.  I will consider myself successful if Biden can beat Trump by 12, 000 votes in my county.  That will do our part to defeat Trump and Trumpism in Arizona.

    When I was a student at Kiva Elementary School in Scottsdale, Arizona, I had the great honor to shake the hand of Barry Goldwater in 1964-66, after his Presidential defeat and before he went back to the Senate.  I can still remember where I was on the campus, and the direction I was facing when I shook his hand.  I was just a kid.  But this was a huge honor.  My fight against Trump and Trumpism is part and parcel of my meeting Barry Goldwater on my life’s path.  

    • #39
  10. Gary Robbins Member
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    Quietpi (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Why in the world are Trump supporters blocking the Garden State Parkway, the freeway that runs along the eastern side of New Jersey?

    Okay, so first, this is not from the Texas incident. Nothing of the sort pictured here occurred in Texas. Second, the cars are pointing the wrong direction. Next, while I can’t see details on the vehicles furthest from the camera, any blockade of this sort, on a major roadway, would have dozens, or more like hundreds of cars built up in less that a minute. So what gives? And what difference does it make for the present matter?

    Correct, this is not from Texas.  It is from the Garden State Parkway, which I recognize from driving it in New Jersey.   And it happened this weekend during the same time that Trump Thugs were menacing people who they didn’t agree with.  This was one of a bunch of examples of how Trump Thugs have taken to break traffic rules.  I am against BLM or Antifa when they block roads, I am also against Trump Thugs when they block roads.

    • #40
  11. Matt Balzer, Imperialist Claw Member
    Matt Balzer, Imperialist Claw
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    How the CoC can I be a Reagan Conservative and not condemn violence.

    Drink!

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  12. Matt Balzer, Imperialist Claw Member
    Matt Balzer, Imperialist Claw
    @MattBalzer

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    I donated hundreds of dollars to Democrats to rid our nation of Trump and Trumpism.

    Careful, now. Don’t want to dox yourself.

    • #42
  13. Sisyphus Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    This is what am I up to.

    You are now completely off-topic. Xi is very encouraged by your efforts and promises to remember them in the new order. I’m sure you are very, very proud. Your endorsement of the credibility of CNN and with the Biden Campaign is also duly noted. Your endorsements of Senator Goldwater and President Reagan are in no way comparable to the notion that either would endorse your efforts, though we know that Xi, Nancy Pelosi, and Chuck Schumer likely would. You say far more about yourself with these comments than you intend. What you have become is the mirror opposite of a Reagan Democrat, a Biden Republican. 

    I hold no truck with party labels, the parties are open membership and enforce no creeds or ideologies. Benedict Arnold was at least a nominal Patriot until he wasn’t. George Soros has reliably lavished donations on the Bush family for decades. 

    You have repeated specific charges. Can you provide any credible evidence, rather than the natterings of Antifa’s political wing?

    • #43
  14. Gary Robbins Member
    Gary Robbins
    @GaryRobbins

    Sisyphus (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    This is what am I up to.

    You are now completely off-topic. Xi is very encouraged by your efforts and promises to remember them in the new order. I’m sure you are very, very proud. Your endorsement of the credibility of CNN and with the Biden Campaign is also duly noted. Your endorsements of Senator Goldwater and President Reagan are in no way comparable to the notion that either would endorse your efforts, though we know that Xi, Nancy Pelosi, and Chuck Schumer likely would. You say far more about yourself with these comments than you intend. What you have become is the mirror opposite of a Reagan Democrat, a Biden Republican.

    I hold no truck with party labels, the parties are open membership and enforce no creeds or ideologies. Benedict Arnold was at least a nominal Patriot until he wasn’t. George Soros has reliably lavished donations on the Bush family for decades.

    You have repeated specific charges. Can you provide any credible evidence, rather than the natterings of Antifa’s political wing?

    See comment #36 for four news stories.  Or is anything from CNN or Drudge suspect to you?  

    • #44
  15. TBA Coolidge
    TBA
    @RobtGilsdorf

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Quietpi (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Why in the world are Trump supporters blocking the Garden State Parkway, the freeway that runs along the eastern side of New Jersey?

    Okay, so first, this is not from the Texas incident. Nothing of the sort pictured here occurred in Texas. Second, the cars are pointing the wrong direction. Next, while I can’t see details on the vehicles furthest from the camera, any blockade of this sort, on a major roadway, would have dozens, or more like hundreds of cars built up in less that a minute. So what gives? And what difference does it make for the present matter?

    Correct, this is not from Texas. It is from the Garden State Parkway, which I recognize from driving it in New Jersey. And it happened this weekend during the same time that Trump Thugs were menacing people who they didn’t agree with. This was one of a bunch of examples of how Trump Thugs have taken to break traffic rules. I am against BLM or Antifa when they block roads, I am also against Trump Thugs when they block roads.

    Weasel Word Alert! 

    • #45
  16. Gary Robbins Member
    Gary Robbins
    @GaryRobbins

    Well here it is.  The harassment of the Biden people by the Trump Thugs, complete with DJTJ encouraging them on.  If I were a Texas Prosecutor, I would haul those folks before a Grand Jury and ask for felony indictments for endangerment.

    • #46
  17. Gary Robbins Member
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    @GaryRobbins

    This a battle for the soul of the nation.  I suggest that you take the 4-5 minutes to watch this to see what Trump Thugs you are associating with who run their trucks into other people’s cars, and harass the bus drivers.  Those jerks then put their exploits up on social media where they have likely lost a whole bunch of voters who are sickened by the bullying.  If Trump loses Texas, you can thank the actions of these Trump Train Thugs.

    • #47
  18. Raxxalan Member
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    Slowing down to 20-30 miles per hour on I-35 between San Antonio and Austin is actually pretty normal.  There is a lot of construction on that road and it narrows significantly in several places, so if that is the evidence of nefarious intent color me unimpressed.  It has happened to me just about every time I go to San Antonio or come back. 

    • #48
  19. Matt Balzer, Imperialist Claw Member
    Matt Balzer, Imperialist Claw
    @MattBalzer

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    This a battle for the soul of the nation. I suggest that you take the 4-5 minutes to watch this to see what Trump Thugs you are associating with who run their trucks into other people’s cars, and harass the bus drivers. Those jerks then put their exploits up on social media where they have likely lost a whole bunch of voters who are sickened by the bullying. If Trump loses Texas, you can thank the actions of these Trump Train Thugs.

    That’s so cute that you think there’s still a battle to be fought.

    • #49
  20. Bryan G. Stephens, Trump Avenger Thatcher
    Bryan G. Stephens, Trump Avenger
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens, Trump Aveng… (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Seawriter (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens, Trump Aveng… (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    If I were the hearing officer and I had any person who had blocked the traffic before me I would set bail as high as possible, and upon sentencing, would hammer them into the ground. If I had an Antifa person before me, I would hammer them also.

    I do not believe you.

     

    What? You don’t believe Gary would set bail as high as possible for a Trump supporter? I sure do. I have to admit, I don’t believe he would hammer someone from from Antifa, though. Although he would probably Biden that situation by claiming Antifa is only an idea and not a real organization. He’d be looking at them with the same peril-sensitive glasses he uses when he looks at Biden’s campaign promises, as well.

    I would hammer anyone who blocked traffic, be they a Trump supporter, a Biden supporter, or a member of Antifa. Wouldn’t you?

    There is no bias involved in being a hanging judge, only a hanging judge who punishes only one side.

    I do not believe you. You have said nothing about the riots and mobs. You can’t even bring yourself to condemn them.

    I do not trust you.

    Give me a CoC break. Of course, I condemn the riots and mobs. How the CoC can I be a Reagan Conservative and not condemn violence. I condemn ALL of them: Antifa, Bernie Bros and Trump Thugs alike. No violence, period. You commit violence, you get arrested and go to jail.

    You are voting for the man who denies Antifa is even an organization. Therefore you support the fiction they are an ifea.

    Where was your post condemning them Gary? Nowhere. You just bitched about a Trump caravan blocking traffic. 

    • #50
  21. Sisyphus Member
    Sisyphus
    @Sisyphus

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Well here it is. The harassment of the Biden people by the Trump Thugs, complete with DJTJ encouraging them on. If I were a Texas Prosecutor, I would haul those folks before a Grand Jury and ask for felony indictments for endangerment.

    It requires patience, the edits are tediously repetitive, but each time the collision is shown between the white car and the Trump train pickup, the white car is intruding into the pickup’s lane. In a late shot that gives a clearer view, the white car is being driven recklessly without any regard for safe distancing. Whoever that driver is, he needs to be charged.

    Otherwise, there is nothing on this video that incriminates anyone.

    • #51
  22. Bryan G. Stephens, Trump Avenger Thatcher
    Bryan G. Stephens, Trump Avenger
    @BryanGStephens

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

     

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    This a battle for the soul of the nation. I suggest that you take the 4-5 minutes to watch this to see what Trump Thugs you are associating with who run their trucks into other people’s cars, and harass the bus drivers. Those jerks then put their exploits up on social media where they have likely lost a whole bunch of voters who are sickened by the bullying. If Trump loses Texas, you can thank the actions of these Trump Train Thugs.

    This is so disconnected from reality it is not even funny.

    Weare in a battle fir the soul and you are voting to destroy it.

    • #52
  23. Sisyphus Member
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    @Sisyphus

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    This a battle for the soul of the nation. I suggest that you take the 4-5 minutes to watch this to see what Trump Thugs you are associating with who run their trucks into other people’s cars, and harass the bus drivers. Those jerks then put their exploits up on social media where they have likely lost a whole bunch of voters who are sickened by the bullying. If Trump loses Texas, you can thank the actions of these Trump Train Thugs.

    The video simply doesn’t show what you say it shows. No pickup ran into anyone, for starters. Did you even watch it? Clearly an actually peaceful protest.

    • #53
  24. Bryan G. Stephens, Trump Avenger Thatcher
    Bryan G. Stephens, Trump Avenger
    @BryanGStephens

    Sisyphus (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Well here it is. The harassment of the Biden people by the Trump Thugs, complete with DJTJ encouraging them on. If I were a Texas Prosecutor, I would haul those folks before a Grand Jury and ask for felony indictments for endangerment.

    It requires patience, the edits are tediously repetitive, but each time the collision is shown between the white car and the Trump train pickup, the white car is intruding into the pickup’s lane. In a late shot that gives a clearer view, the white car is being driven recklessly without any regard for safe distancing. Whoever that driver is, he needs to be charged.

    Otherwise, there is nothing on this video that incriminates anyone.

    Gary only has nuance for Biden. 

    • #54
  25. TBA Coolidge
    TBA
    @RobtGilsdorf

    Sisyphus (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Well here it is. The harassment of the Biden people by the Trump Thugs, complete with DJTJ encouraging them on. If I were a Texas Prosecutor, I would haul those folks before a Grand Jury and ask for felony indictments for endangerment.

    It requires patience, the edits are tediously repetitive, but each time the collision is shown between the white car and the Trump train pickup, the white car is intruding into the pickup’s lane. In a late shot that gives a clearer view, the white car is being driven recklessly without any regard for safe distancing. Whoever that driver is, he needs to be charged.

    Otherwise, there is nothing on this video that incriminates anyone.

    Kinda disturbed about the white vehicle’s driver trying to cancel the free speech of the guy driving the truck. 

    This video does not demonstrate what the OP says it does. 

    The Trump supporters have the same rights as anyone else on the road – unless you believe that having a larger vehicle or the name ‘Biden’ means you have more rights than other people. 

    • #55
  26. Seawriter Contributor
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    Give me a break.

    Why? What have you done to earn one? Over the last four years you have proved exceedingly credulous, highly biased (if not bigoted) on the subject of Trump, and a willing dupe for every media lie about him. 

    I suggest you read this and this. It might explain why no one assumes your good faith.

    • #56
  27. Seawriter Contributor
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    From Drudge and CNN: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8903577/New-footage-shows-50-strong-MAGA-train-convoy-ambushed-Biden-bus.html.  https://newyork.cbslocal.com/2020/11/01/trump-caravan-maga-drag-gov-mario-cuomo-bridge-garden-state-parkway/.  https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/01/politics/fbi-investigating-biden-bus-trump/index.html.  https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/01/opinions/trump-dangerous-praise-texas-obeidallah/index.html

    Can you provide a reputable news service? Neither of these are other than anti-Trump propaganda organs. It would be like relying on Isvestia or Pravda during the Soviet era about an article about US imperialism.

    • #57
  28. Flicker Coolidge
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Well here it is. The harassment of the Biden people by the Trump Thugs, complete with DJTJ encouraging them on. If I were a Texas Prosecutor, I would haul those folks before a Grand Jury and ask for felony indictments for endangerment.

    Yes, Gary, thanks.  I’ve been looking for video of the accident, to see what the nature of it was, and here you see the white car — apparently a Trump supporter — veering into the first lane which has a truck in it and no other lane for the truck to move into other than to pull onto the the shoulder.  Thanks for the video.

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  29. Jon1979 Inactive
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    Flicker (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Well here it is. The harassment of the Biden people by the Trump Thugs, complete with DJTJ encouraging them on. If I were a Texas Prosecutor, I would haul those folks before a Grand Jury and ask for felony indictments for endangerment.

    Yes, Gary, thanks. I’ve been looking for video of the accident, to see what the nature of it was, and here you see the white car — apparently a Trump supporter — veering into the first lane which has a truck in it and no other lane for the truck to move into other than to pull onto the the shoulder. Thanks for the video.

    That’s the only thing I’ve seen so far, too. The white SUV, just behind the bus, driving two-thirds in the center lane and one third in the right lane, and being more of a jerk to the blue pickup with the Trump flags that’s right behind the bus than he is to the Biden bus. That’s the driver DPS needed to stop and ticket, and the pickup forcing the SUV back into the center lane is at 0:22 of the video Gary posted.

    So nobody’s disputing the driver of the white SUV was acting like a jerk. But I haven’t seen any videos so far of the other things Gary is claiming occurred, via the Biden people claiming they occurred.

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  30. Sisyphus Member
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    Flicker (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Well here it is. The harassment of the Biden people by the Trump Thugs, complete with DJTJ encouraging them on. If I were a Texas Prosecutor, I would haul those folks before a Grand Jury and ask for felony indictments for endangerment.

    Yes, Gary, thanks. I’ve been looking for video of the accident, to see what the nature of it was, and here you see the white car — apparently a Trump supporter — veering into the first lane which has a truck in it and no other lane for the truck to move into other than to pull onto the the shoulder. Thanks for the video.

    I took the pickup truck trailing the bus to be a Trump supporter. It is flying two banners, the lower on a thin blue line flag, the upper one we don’t get a good look on but it is the same colors as the white on blue Trump flags flying on other vehicles. Whoever the white car is, whatever side they belong to, they are very wrong and I fully support legal action against them for recklessness. From the way the early, repeatedly seen edit of the collision was cut, the collision was already in progress and it makes it look like the pickup is just pushing the white car out of the lane. It’s a great clip to give that impression on TV news, so they have hung that out there. The fuller cut from a better angle shows that the white car cuts into the pickup and is rebounding at the point shown in the early news bait clip.

    I’m glad they showed the second cut, but if clarity was the concern they should have led with it and not repeated the earlier clip as if this was happening over and over. 

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