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One line of NeverTrump thinking has it that a big Trump loss would be an opportunity for the GOP to learn to stay away from all “Trumpy” mistakes in the future. That may be at least partially right. I’m not a big fan of Trumpiness myself if “Trumpiness” means Twitter trollery and lying about paying off porn stars and whatnot.
Much more credible. I think that Tara Reid has been thoroughly discredited. As for E. Jean Carroll, the statute of limitations had expired on the civil action over the rape, however Trump said that she was lying and that she was not his type, opening up himself to a defamation lawsuit. She has asked for some of Trump’s DNA, and he is resisting. DNA would show sexual contact, rebutting a claim of “she’s not my type.”
Good point. Flicker has thrown in a curve that I don’t have the time to run down, but since Senator Alexander opined that the House Managers had made their case, that would rebut Flicker’s claim. Flicker has engaged in a couple of personal attacks against me; I am not inclined to extend the assumption of good faith that I usually extend to my fellow Ricochetti, nor am I inclined to run down his allegation.
If as keen a mind as Lamar! Alexander has been convinced, then that’s all there is to that.
I wouldn’t let Lamar! walk my dog.
I’m confused. Did she save a hair from the alleged encounter?
What do you know about Read that I don’t?
And does anyone remember some accuser of Trump who changed her story? That did happen, right? But who was it exactly? (I wonder if I’m just misremembering one if the non-credible Kavanaugh accusations.)
I suppose you’re right. It actually is relevant! Assuming L. A. heard the whole conversation and wasn’t under the influence of the Democratic narrative, that would count as a rebuttal.
But not a very interesting one. All we should need on this point is a quote from the transcript or an audio clip of the context.
I don’t know. I am assuming semen, hair, or sloughed off skin.
See these articles by the New York Times: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/12/us/politics/joe-biden-tara-reade-sexual-assault-complaint.html, and Politico: https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/15/tara-reade-left-trail-of-aggrieved-acquaintances-260771,
I don’t know. Some 26 women have accused Trump of sexual misconduct. See Business Insider: https://www.businessinsider.com/women-accused-trump-sexual-misconduct-list-2017-12.
Gary, did she come forward with the Trump accusation in the same week she saved a DNA sample in the fridge?
If the NYT critiques Read, that’s almost interesting. I don’t quite have time to care. Proverbs 18:17 would apply even if I trusted them. But if there’s some summary of the logic–of the main points against her, and perhaps of the main points of any defense–that I might have time for.
I love that quote from Proverbs: In a lawsuit the first to speak seems right, until someone comes forward and cross-examines!
What I reported was fact, not political spin. Gary’s excuse for a rebuttal had nothing to do with the transcript he apparently never read.
I’ve read a whole bunch of this. I do not recall what you cited. Please lay a foundation for your conclusion.
I’m sorry but I wasn’t addressing you, Gary.
K. Fair enough.
It’s not nice to tell people not to whine. It’s an honored 1st Amendment tradition. ++Whatever happened to civility?
If the GOPe thinks the term GOPe is a slur, maybe it has a touchy, guilty conscience that needs some healing therapy.
Interesting recent Sean Trende article on GOP establishment going forward. I agree with most of it, particularly a key point about GOP not updating since Reagan.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/10/30/the_future_of_the_gop_is_trumpy_144566.html
Thought this also insightful:
During Desert Storm there was a picture by way of (as I recall) Al Jazeera of perhaps half a dozen missiles coming toward a town. A different website had it up next to the original non-photoshopped picture of the single missile that occurred in fact rather than with a clone brush tool.
People were mocking the obviousness of the photoshop work – and rightly so – but someone commented that this kind of thing is evolutionary and could lead to the
yphotoshop fakers becoming better at their craft.I don’t know that I want Democrats to learn anything from this because they aren’t going to become more ethical; they are going to stop saying stupid things out loud, get elected, and enact the same kinds of policies as before.
That’s one galactic monster of a point.
I’d like to add some further info to previous comments about assault allegations involving President Trump and former VP Biden.
Trump rape claims
Woman lied. https://mobile.twitter.com/almostjingo/status/1076736474593153025
Thread that indicates how rape allegations against Donald Trump are initiated and are/can be disproved
https://threader.app/thread/1256333009063567361
As for E. Jean Carroll, I have problems with her allegations. She is a staunch Democrat activist and nutty as a fruitcake, neither of which disqualify her story but need to be considered. Her claims regarding Trump raping her were resurrected in conjunction with trying to promote a book she was selling, and her allegations morphed from a ‘rape’ to a ‘fight’ in Bergdorf Goodman dressing room during normally busy customer time yet no one witnessed or heard. Her appearances do not help her claims, particularly one where CNN cut away from an Anderson Cooper interview with her after she said rape was sexy. As I recall, she herself declined to have DNA testing. There are other issues, but that’s enough to illustrate my skepticism.
Joe Biden I do not believe is just an overly friendly politician. Stripping nude before Secret Service women and making unwanted moves on male Secret Service girlfriends at parties tell another story. He purportedly is one Senator with whom new agents on his detail are warned to not leave unaware/unwilling women alone (in elevators, offices, etc.) a la Ted Kennedy.
Tara Reade who worked in Biden’s office and has accused him has a more solid allegation (e.g., Reade filed a police report, and reference to harassment while working in Biden’s office appear in 1990s court documents) than E. Jean Carroll, though some particulars of her account have changed over years. Biden’s Senate and UDelaware archived records have been denied her attorneys.
This is some good basic reporting (not press editorializing to benefit a Democrat as I repeatedly find publications like NYT, WaPo are prone to do):
https://amp.sanluisobispo.com/news/politics-government/article242527331.html?__twitter_impression=true
Ah. Thank you. That’s what I was vaguely recalling. So that was Gary’s Trump accuser, eh?
Gary, over to you, I guess.
You could tell E Jean was a few cards short of a full deck when she had her nighttime CNBC show back in the early 1990s. Which by itself doesn’t make her Trump allegations false. It’s the lack of other cooberating evidence combined with the questionable public locale that does, but the 90s show did indicate Carroll was a bit of an eccentric even a quarter-century ago.
”I’m tired of supermodels and porn stars in luxury hotel suites. Instead I’ll rape an unattractive middle-aged woman in a public place. I can get away with it because I’m so inconspicuous and can pass unnoticed.”
N.B.: Unlike Trump, Bill Clinton never denied Juanita Broaddrick‘s rape accusation. (He was asked about it only once, by the redoubtable Sam Donaldson. He blandly referred the question to his attorneys.) Unlike Trump, Bill Clinton fears reopening the matter as a libel case.
My contacts with Trump haters on Facebook suggest that they put no credence into this accusation. Instead, they make much of Trump’s contacts with Jeffrey Epstein.
These are low information voters, of course, who don’t know that Trump was one of the first to break off relations with Epstein, even as the Clintons and the British royal family continued hanging out with him and his alleged procurer for years longer. (She was one of the select group of guests at Chelsea Clinton’s wedding in 2010!)
He does a lot of shoulder and arm squeezing too . . .
Wow. Lamar was wrong about two impeachments . . .
I remember another story where I think it was Reuters who either produced themselves or at least knowingly used, a photo of a city where one smoking building had been duplicated into many smoking buildings.
There were also multiple pictures of a suspiciously new and clean teddy bear in various buildings. Same teddy bear each time.
My “favorite” fraud, though, still has to be the “Palestinian” “funeral procession” where there’s a line of people carrying “bodies” on stretchers. At one point in the “procession,” one of the stretchers is dropped, and the “body” gets up and runs away.
It’s a comedy classic!