Regarding Trump Hatred

 

I have been bewildered by the intense, beyond all reason, hatred of Donald J. Trump since he became a candidate for the POTUS. Therefore, I have finally come to the Ricochet community seeking your insights. I have no reason to suspect he is any more than a normal human being with strengths and weaknesses common to mankind. So, in all seriousness, please contribute your thoughts as to why his opponents are, I believe, quite literally insane, i.e., out of their minds, in regards to him.

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  1. Flicker Coolidge
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    David Foster (View Comment):

    Here’s a meme that is being circulated on FB:

    Where do you even start, with someone who has these beliefs?

    You could ask for evidence, but if these people are like Never Trumpers, they will only yell their bullet points louder.

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  2. Vince Guerra Inactive
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    David Foster (View Comment):

    Here’s a meme that is being circulated on FB:

    Where do you even start, with someone who has these beliefs?

     

    I’d start by asking them, “So tell me what your kids are learning in church.”
    They’d probably say, “My kids don’t go to church.”
    I’d reply, “It shows.” Then walk away.

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  3. OkieSailor Member
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    RandR (RdnaR): please contribute your thoughts as to why his opponents are, I believe, quite literally insane, i.e., out of their minds, in regards to him.

    I haven’t read all the comments so please excuse if this is repetitious: The Progressives (both parties) have imposed their agenda through the courts for over 50 years because they couldn’t get it through the legislature. That is under threat because Trump is nominating judges at all levels that believe in following the law as written and the Constitution as if it means what it says. That is the foundation of the hissy fit they have thrown beginning before he was inaugurated.  If he is re-elected it will continue unabated as that is all they have. Their arguments are empty and ineffective; they can only use coercion.  It looks insane to us but is completely logical from their perspective.

     

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  4. kedavis Coolidge
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    OkieSailor (View Comment):
    It looks insane to us but is completely logical from their perspective.

    That is because THEY ARE insane.

    :-)

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  5. Basil Fawlty Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    OkieSailor (View Comment):
    It looks insane to us but is completely logical from their perspective.

    That is because THEY ARE insane.

    :-)

    Insanity is just a state of mind.

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  6. Saint Augustine Member
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    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    I’m late to the party, but I’ll add my two cents. Why the irrational Trump hatred? I attribute it to the increasing secularization of our society. . . .

    A nice comment.

    On a related note, when you’re bereft of any religious hope it’s a lot easier to despair and totally freak out when the highest thing you admit exists–politics–doesn’t go your way.

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  7. Bishop Wash Member
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    Flicker (View Comment):

    Charlotte (View Comment):

    Flicker (View Comment):

    I agree with you but still, do you think this is because Trump showed up the RINOs?

    [CRAZY VIDEO MONTAGE OF CHICKS SCREAMING IN THEIR VEHICLES]

    I just wanted to point out that this is why we need to repeal the 19th Amendment.

    But what if you couldn’t vote to repeal … because you’re a woman? Eh?

    But seriously, maybe it’s because the video clips right-wing outlets choose to show, but most of those anti-fa and BLM people getting in cops’ faces and hurling insults and invective, seem to be women, too.

    Hat tip to Ace, a female protester assaults a cop and then yells for a female cop. The cop says, how do you know I don’t identify as a female. Beautiful.

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  8. TBA Coolidge
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    Mim526 (View Comment):

    Henry Castaigne (View Comment):

    As men are built more lustful than they ought to be and women more emotional than is sensible. Human beings are made for hatred in a similarly tragic fashion.

    I surmise that the pleasures of hating another group deeply distorts one’s logic and the capacity for one’s decency. To very slightly paraphrase Andrew Klavan’s address to a center right conservative audience in America.

    One of the things that conservatives don’t understand is that even dissatisfied democrats who aren’t fans of big government or Obamacare think that you are absolutely evil. My father taught me that you guys were one step away from Nazis. When Reagan got elected, my father said, the next President will be Hitler.

    One need not be a fan of Mr. Reagan’s to find such vitriol unusual and curious. Andrew Klavan’s father was an atheist Jew so that Hitler reference has a bit more venom than the usual Hitler comparisons.

    Evolution and the shaping of our hatreds. Our ancestors were effective in their rape and slaughter of the weak. We are alive today because our ancestors slaughtered the neanderthalls and denisovans who competed against them. We are made to hate those who don’t share our DNA and who compete with us for power. It is evolution that made so cruel. Satan watches with fascination as he debates with Uriel and Samael.

    As an evangelical, you’ll get no argument from me on the fallen nature of man *grin*. I will simply add that we are not mindless beasts; we have free will to choose how we treat/approach others. My faith in fact teaches that the coming of Jesus Christ brought light into the world so that – as my favorite theologian John Wesley put it – all mankind…has reason to rejoice for the light within which produces at some point (whether we act on them or not,) good desires – the desire to do good – counters the darkness and gives grace to choose to do right. This is part of “every good and perfect gift comes from the Father above”.

    Part of my job fighting for light is to stop the Leftist idjits from removing God-given freedom like those enumerated in our Bill of Rights.

    As to why some — particularly Leftists and those involved with levers of power in govt, media, industry (unfortunately one and the same too often) — harbour irrational hate for Donald Trump, one simple answer may because somebody came along with enough chutzpah to seriously slow their roll, both in the cesspool of DC and internationally because he’s President of the United States.

    The whole point of being a President is that you aren’t a team player. 

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  9. TBA Coolidge
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    Bob Thompson (View Comment):

    Matt Upton (View Comment):

    I voted for him, and I still really, really dislike him as a person. Much of his policy is fine, great even in many areas (Again, I had a choice, and I chose him)…., but very few wear their worst attributes on their sleeves and be praised for them.

     

    I’m glad you choose to dislike over hate, that goes straight to the issue here.

    I don’t really follow you on the last point above because I see most Trump advocates praising his policy commitments and a couple of behavioral attributes required for that outcome while dismissing or ignoring other behavioral attributes that might be irritating but not consequential.

    I admit to liking a lot of his negative qualities; they have grown on me. 

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  10. Mim526 Inactive
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    TBA (View Comment):

    Mim526 (View Comment):

    Henry Castaigne (View Comment):

    As men are built more lustful than they ought to be and women more emotional than is sensible. Human beings are made for hatred in a similarly tragic fashion.

    I surmise that the pleasures of hating another group deeply distorts one’s logic and the capacity for one’s decency. To very slightly paraphrase Andrew Klavan’s address to a center right conservative audience in America.

    One of the things that conservatives don’t understand is that even dissatisfied democrats who aren’t fans of big government or Obamacare think that you are absolutely evil. My father taught me that you guys were one step away from Nazis. When Reagan got elected, my father said, the next President will be Hitler.

    One need not be a fan of Mr. Reagan’s to find such vitriol unusual and curious. Andrew Klavan’s father was an atheist Jew so that Hitler reference has a bit more venom than the usual Hitler comparisons.

    Evolution and the shaping of our hatreds. Our ancestors were effective in their rape and slaughter of the weak. We are alive today because our ancestors slaughtered the neanderthalls and denisovans who competed against them. We are made to hate those who don’t share our DNA and who compete with us for power. It is evolution that made so cruel. Satan watches with fascination as he debates with Uriel and Samael.

    As an evangelical, you’ll get no argument from me on the fallen nature of man *grin*. I will simply add that we are not mindless beasts; we have free will to choose how we treat/approach others. My faith in fact teaches that the coming of Jesus Christ brought light into the world so that – as my favorite theologian John Wesley put it – all mankind…has reason to rejoice for the light within which produces at some point (whether we act on them or not,) good desires – the desire to do good – counters the darkness and gives grace to choose to do right. This is part of “every good and perfect gift comes from the Father above”.

    Part of my job fighting for light is to stop the Leftist idjits from removing God-given freedom like those enumerated in our Bill of Rights.

    As to why some — particularly Leftists and those involved with levers of power in govt, media, industry (unfortunately one and the same too often) — harbour irrational hate for Donald Trump, one simple answer may because somebody came along with enough chutzpah to seriously slow their roll, both in the cesspool of DC and internationally because he’s President of the United States.

    The whole point of being a President is that you aren’t a team player.

    Eggsactly…and YOU are final say on policy in YOUR administration.  Was blatantly obvious during their impeachment hearing testimony many bureaucrats thought POTUS was not allowed to violate THEIR US policy.

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  11. TBA Coolidge
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    David Foster (View Comment):

    Here’s a meme that is being circulated on FB:

    Where do you even start, with someone who has these beliefs?

     

    “Prove it” is a good way to either start or end that conversation. 

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