The Third Evil

 

I came very close to sitting out the 2016 presidential election. As easy as it was to reject the cynicism and corruption of Hillary Clinton, I considered Donald Trump too much a wild card and a buffoon to willfully pull the lever for him.

As the election neared, it slowly dawned on me that I had begrudgingly decided to vote for Trump — that is, against Hillary — but I had yet to fully admit it to myself. I struggle mightily with depression, and in the days leading up to the election, I began spiraling into paralysis, to the point where deciding not to decide was no longer an option, but simply a reality. I wasn’t going to vote, because I was unable to vote. The lesser of two evils, indeed.

I can’t point to the exact event that ultimately spurred me to action, but I do know its source, and I now recognize that it wasn’t so much an event, but a tipping point. Somehow, my muddled brain stumbled upon the realization that there weren’t only two evils at play, but rather three, and that this third was far more hideous and insidious than the two that had consumed my will.

Presidents and their policies come and go. For all the hype and hysteria over The Most Important Election Ever, our system is robust enough to handle a few misfires here and there. It is designed to handle a few misfires here and there. What it is not designed to handle is a growing, relentless, external threat that goes unchecked and unbalanced. The Third Evil I speak of is, of course, the media: the hyper-partisan, pro-Democrat media.

Once I considered the election in this light, I had an easier time of it. Unlike most voters, I’m content to vote against someone, as long as the lesser of two evils is clear to me. As corrupt as Hillary Clinton was, Donald Trump was (at that time) a bridge too far for me. But the pro-Democrat media? That was an evil I could vote against whole-heartedly.

Four years later and the threat of a corrupt and colluding media is even more apparent. Trump is largely responsible for exposing that, and he’s done a better job on policy than I’d hoped or imagined. Meanwhile, Biden’s faculties have has diminished to an alarming degree. He’s objectively more corrupt than Trump, and his policies are indistinguishable from suicide by government. I will clearly and unhesitatingly be voting for Trump this time. But make no mistake, the real import of this election lies elsewhere.

The media must be stopped.

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  1. Jimmy Carter Member
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    Yeah, when President Trump first decided to run I thought it was an absolute joke. On these Here pages years ago I made a comment stating that now “Donald Trump” is running for President America has truly become The Jerry Springer Show.

    Well, someone took Me to the woodshed over that, I don’t remember Who.

    Now? I can’t help but wonder, “Where the hell have You been, President Trump?!” 

    It’s an exercise in futility, but could You imagine the media’s coverage/reaction if President Trump was running against Barry?

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  2. JoelB Member
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    In 2016 I felt the media was overplaying Trump like they tend to do with maverick Republicans. He got more air time during the debates and more coverage in general. I feel sure that they thought that Hillary could defeat him easily. Their plan backfired. He won and they have been pulling out all the stops ever since in a vain attempt to correct their error.

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  3. Front Seat Cat Member
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    You’ll never find your peace in politics or anything of this world. You are so right – each leader has his time in the sun, then someone else takes over. Even King Solomon said that. I thought Hilary was a shoe-in. The third evil you speak of is working in the world overtime – find a good church – even on line, and keep your focus on what is above. God bless – 

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  4. Quietpi Member
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    I spent most of yesterday driving, so I listened to a lot of radio.  I heard what was, for me at least, one of the most extraordinary interviews of all time.  Andrew Wilkow interviewed John Lydon, better known as Johnny Rotten, lead singer of the ’70’s punk rock band the Sex Pistols.  I guess there’s been quite a dust-up after he was photographed, wearing a MAGA t-shirt.  He had a lot to say, to put it mildly.  The part that applies here is this:  Donald Trump has a terrible personality.  But he is doing the right things. 

    I guess he’s written a book – “I Could Be Wrong, I Could Be Right,”  soon to be released.  I think they said that was a lyric from one of  his most famous songs.  And I guess he’s going to go on a speaking tour next year.  Now, I wouldn’t know punk from skunk, although to my understanding there isn’t much difference (not to denigrate the fine family, Mephitidae).  But this guy clearly has some important things to say to a bunch of people who need to hear it.

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  5. Bob Thompson Member
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    My view of your position today is that whereas you are right on target with the evils being delivered by the Democrats, including their media cohorts, your recognition of Donald Trump’s coming out could be more forceful. I was in a similar position as you with little more than hope when I cast my vote for Trump in 2016. Anyone here paying attention knows where I stand now. Donald Trump has grown and learned so much about the role a took on as POTUS that he has positioned himself to be remembered as a great American patriot and president and he should be re-elected by the American people as a positive act.

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  6. Freeven Member
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    Bob Thompson (View Comment):

    My view of your position today is that whereas you are right on target with the evils being delivered by the Democrats, including their media cohorts, your recognition of Donald Trump’s coming out could be more forceful. I was in a similar position as you with little more than hope when I cast my vote for Trump in 2016. Anyone here paying attention knows where I stand now. Donald Trump has grown and learned so much about the role a took on as POTUS that he has positioned himself to be remembered as a great American patriot and president and he should be re-elected by the American people as a positive act.

    Trump has won me over to a larger degree than I indicated in the OP. I deliberately understated my take on his first term because I wanted the focus to be on the media and  I wanted even those who dislike Trump to consider that a Biden win is a media win. Reward something and you will get more of it.

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  7. cirby Inactive
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    In 2016, I was going to sit out the election, too. I didn’t like Trump at all.

    But then my employer was hired by the Democrats to do some work, and I got put on the crew.

    I spent a couple of weeks in close proximity to some of the upper-level people in the Clinton campaign, including the behind-the-scenes people who were running the whole show. They were, flatly, awful people. In every respect. Any “nice” people in the campaign were run over with hobnailed boots on a regular basis, and were generally running around in honest-to-God terror most of the day.

    After finding out what those people were like (especially the way they treated everyone “below” them), I voted for Trump.

     

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  8. Flicker Coolidge
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    I’ve said this before, too.  I was for Cain, then Carson, then Cruz, and I was quite let down when Cruz lost to Trump.  But I knew I didn’t want Hillary.  It’s not that I didn’t like what Trump said, or even how he said it, but that I just didn’t have enough knowledge about Trump to trust him.  When I won the nomination I was all in.  Sceptical, and concerned, but all in.  And I was very happily surprised when he won.  Since then I realized that he wasn’t the bad guy that the media played him to be.

    But I still didn’t get the full import of his speech to the CIA.  He was, naively, asking or cautioning them off, essentially saying, “I know what you’re about.”  But he didn’t know half of it.  Now, I don’t think Ted Cruz could have or would have stood up to the CIA the way Trump has.  And Yes, Trump has grown politically while in office, and I think personally, though I could easily be very wrong.

    This brings me to my point about the third evil.  I’m sure you’ve heard about Operation Mockingbird, the old and ongoing CIA program to co-opt and control the media.  I think the third evil is the CIA itself.  We see coordination between media outlets, and there appears to be no reason for competing outlets to mirror one another.  It appears to me, that there is another unifying force exerting its will.  And that would be the CIA.  After all, even the Russia collusion story and the framing of several of Trump’s campaign were performed not by the media (both at home and abroad) but by the CIA itself.  The media were only the megaphone.

    If the media were told by their masters at the CIA to reverse course and support Trump, I’m positive that they could and would to a man do so, and individual news readers and spokesmodels would have not a qualm in the world about it.

    This is what unnerves me the most.

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  9. Bob Thompson Member
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    Flicker (View Comment):

    I’ve said this before, too. I was for Cain, then Carson, then Cruz, and I was quite let down when Cruz lost to Trump. But I knew I didn’t want Hillary. It’s not that I didn’t like what Trump said, or even how he said it, but that I just didn’t have enough knowledge about Trump to trust him. When I won the nomination I was all in. Sceptical, and concerned, but all in. And I was very happily surprised when he won. Since then I realized that he wasn’t the bad guy that the media played him to be.

    But I still didn’t get the full import of his speech to the CIA. He was, naively, asking or cautioning them off, essentially saying, “I know what you’re about.” But he didn’t know half of it. Now, I don’t think Ted Cruz could have or would have stood up to the CIA the way Trump has. And Yes, Trump has grown politically while in office, and I think personally, though I could easily be very wrong.

    This brings me to my point about the third evil. I’m sure you’ve heard about Operation Mockingbird, the old and ongoing CIA program to co-opt and control the media. I think the third evil is the CIA itself. We see coordination between media outlets, and there appears to be no reason for competing outlets to mirror one another. It appears to me, that there is another unifying force exerting its will. And that would be the CIA. After all, even the Russia collusion story and the framing of several of Trump’s campaign were performed not by the media (both at home and abroad) but by the CIA itself. The media were only the megaphone.

    If the media were told by their masters at the CIA to reverse course and support Trump, I’m positive that they could and would to a man do so, and individual news readers and spokesmodels would have not a qualm in the world about it.

    This is what unnerves me the most.

    You’ve got my attention. I do think the CIA is a key player, maybe even the driver, of this. 

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  10. Flicker Coolidge
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    Bob Thompson (View Comment):

    Flicker (View Comment):

    …If the media were told by their masters at the CIA to reverse course and support Trump, I’m positive that they could and would to a man do so, and individual news readers and spokesmodels would have not a qualm in the world about it.

    This is what unnerves me the most.

    You’ve got my attention. I do think the CIA is a key player, maybe even the driver, of this.

    Sorry to include so much.

    I don’t run in these circles so I can only guess.  Yes, I think the CIA is one of the main players world-wide, and exercises top control in the US.  But coordinated international business is another main player.  I tend to think that international banking is the driver, particularly the BIS.

    The 147 Companies That Control Everything (from Forbes)

    Here is just one quote from above: “See the top 50 on the control list at the New Scientist. One of the co-authors, Dr. James Glattfelder, says he will be publishing next week the bigger list of 737 companies that control 80% of the global economy. The 147 are included in that group.”

    Below is the wonky paper reporting the above:

    The network of global corporate control

    Then there’s this chart that is from an outlier site.  (Maybe you can blow it up.)

     

    And there is this bit of prescience this just for good measure, written in August of this year.

    How We Could Wind Up Banned From Discussing ‘An October Surprise’ On Social Media This Election

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  11. Bob Thompson Member
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    Flicker (View Comment):

    I think the third evil is the CIA itself. We see coordination between media outlets, and there appears to be no reason for competing outlets to mirror one another. It appears to me, that there is another unifying force exerting its will. And that would be the CIA. After all, even the Russia collusion story and the framing of several of Trump’s campaign were performed not by the media (both at home and abroad) but by the CIA itself. The media were only the megaphone.

     

    Do you remember when the House hearings were going on leading toward the Trump impeachment, we all knew who the ‘whistleblower’ was by name and that he was a CIA operative detailed to the NSC, but there was never a story in the mainstream media about this?

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  12. kylez Member
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    cirby (View Comment):

    In 2016, I was going to sit out the election, too. I didn’t like Trump at all.

    But then my employer was hired by the Democrats to do some work, and I got put on the crew.

    I spent a couple of weeks in close proximity to some of the upper-level people in the Clinton campaign, including the behind-the-scenes people who were running the whole show. They were, flatly, awful people. In every respect. Any “nice” people in the campaign were run over with hobnailed boots on a regular basis, and were generally running around in honest-to-God terror most of the day.

    After finding out what those people were like (especially the way they treated everyone “below” them), I voted for Trump.

     

    What was your job.

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  13. DonG (skeptic) Coolidge
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    Flicker (View Comment):
    I think the third evil is the CIA itself. We see coordination between media outlets, and there appears to be no reason for competing outlets to mirror one another.

    Or, there is an alignment of interests.  All the J-school grads have a hive mind.  They all communicate on Twitter and anyone that is out-of-step with the hive is corrected or canceled.  From there, you add in that they all want to work for one of the two papers with money (NYT & WaPo) and all the media will follow the lead of the NYT or WaPo.  The cause is the lack of profits in the news industry.  It is populated with young people that crank out hot takes based on “researching” Twitter, because nobody has any time or money to do any actual research (except NYT & WaPo).  In 10 years, a few more billionaires will get into the news business and there will be more choices.

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  14. Tocqueville Inactive
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    Quietpi (View Comment):

    I spent most of yesterday driving, so I listened to a lot of radio. I heard what was, for me at least, one of the most extraordinary interviews of all time. Andrew Wilkow interviewed John Lydon, better known as Johnny Rotten, lead singer of the ’70’s punk rock band the Sex Pistols. I guess there’s been quite a dust-up after he was photographed, wearing a MAGA t-shirt. He had a lot to say, to put it mildly. The part that applies here is this: Donald Trump has a terrible personality. But he is doing the right things.

    I guess he’s written a book – “I Could Be Wrong, I Could Be Right,” soon to be released. I think they said that was a lyric from one of his most famous songs. And I guess he’s going to go on a speaking tour next year. Now, I wouldn’t know punk from skunk, although to my understanding there isn’t much difference (not to denigrate the fine family, Mephitidae). But this guy clearly has some important things to say to a bunch of people who need to hear it.

    Quite important and courageous that he said that. Culture and the arts are a monoculture.

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  15. Flicker Coolidge
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    Bob Thompson (View Comment):

    Flicker (View Comment):

    I think the third evil is the CIA itself. We see coordination between media outlets, and there appears to be no reason for competing outlets to mirror one another. It appears to me, that there is another unifying force exerting its will. And that would be the CIA. After all, even the Russia collusion story and the framing of several of Trump’s campaign were performed not by the media (both at home and abroad) but by the CIA itself. The media were only the megaphone.

    Do you remember when the House hearings were going on leading toward the Trump impeachment, we all knew who the ‘whistleblower’ was by name and that he was a CIA operative detailed to the NSC, but there was never a story in the mainstream media about this?

    From what I can tell, the CIA set up Flynn, I think starting as early as 2014, in London, or actually Cambridge, at a small dinner, at which Flynn was the guest speaker and to which Svetlana Lokhova, a PhD student and British citizen and expert on Soviet history, was invited.

    From a Politico article:

    Svetlana Lokhova filed the suit Thursday in federal court in Alexandria, Va., seeking more than $25 million in damages from longtime University of Cambridge academic Stefan Halper [a CIA connected American professor working at Cambridge] as well as The Wall Street Journal, The New York Times, The Washington Post and MSNBC.

    Lokhova alleges that Halper and the news outlets conspired to spread a false narrative that she approached then-Defense Intelligence Agency Director Michael Flynn on behalf of Russian intelligence at a seminar dinner in England in 2014 and that Flynn and Lokhova had an intimate relationship.

    That year, 2014, Flynn had written a paper critical of the CIA and I believe (it’s been a long time) calling for a restructuring of the CIA.

    George Papadopoulos was offered a job in London, and then when he joined the Trunp campaign he was set up by MI6, and advised to meet with Joseph Mifsud, a Maltese Professor connected with the CIA, in Rome.

    It is likely that the CIA was the impetus for the Clinton Campaign to ultimately use Christopher Steele and his Russian contacts to put forward the pee-pee dossier.

    And, yes, is was the CIA that used Vindman to “whistle blow” on Trumps Ukraine call.

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  16. I Walton Member
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    It never crossed my mind to vote for Hillary nor will it for Biden.  Too many folks are not noticing that it’s not a back and forth process.  It’s been all in the same direction, for almost a century;  build government power.   At least one party doesn’t celebrate it, but still practiced it.   Reagan was an exception but had to win the cold war first.  Trump was in fact  rationalizing power and making clear the risk it posses, but most important he is a one time guy and he’s not part of that establishment.  What changed was the emergence of huge falling cost companies run by vastly ignorant, technically trained kids.  With lots of luck and wider understanding of the threat we might avoid the direction that has killed every civilization that ever existed, the key understanding our founders grasped and tried to design around. 

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  17. Stad Coolidge
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    Freeven: He’s objectively more corrupt than Trump

    I’m not convinced Trump is corrupt . . .

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  18. Bob Thompson Member
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    Flicker (View Comment):

    Bob Thompson (View Comment):

    Flicker (View Comment):

    I think the third evil is the CIA itself. We see coordination between media outlets, and there appears to be no reason for competing outlets to mirror one another. It appears to me, that there is another unifying force exerting its will. And that would be the CIA. After all, even the Russia collusion story and the framing of several of Trump’s campaign were performed not by the media (both at home and abroad) but by the CIA itself. The media were only the megaphone.

    Do you remember when the House hearings were going on leading toward the Trump impeachment, we all knew who the ‘whistleblower’ was by name and that he was a CIA operative detailed to the NSC, but there was never a story in the mainstream media about this?

    From what I can tell, the CIA set up Flynn, I think starting as early as 2014, in London, or actually Cambridge, at a small dinner, at which Flynn was the guest speaker and to which Svetlana Lokhova, a PhD student and British citizen and expert on Soviet history, was invited.

    From a Politico article:

    Svetlana Lokhova filed the suit Thursday in federal court in Alexandria, Va., seeking more than $25 million in damages from longtime University of Cambridge academic Stefan Halper [a CIA connected American professor working at Cambridge] as well as The Wall Street Journal, The New York Times, The Washington Post and MSNBC.

    Lokhova alleges that Halper and the news outlets conspired to spread a false narrative that she approached then-Defense Intelligence Agency Director Michael Flynn on behalf of Russian intelligence at a seminar dinner in England in 2014 and that Flynn and Lokhova had an intimate relationship.

    That year, 2014, Flynn had written a paper critical of the CIA and I believe (it’s been a long time) calling for a restructuring of the CIA.

    George Papadopoulos was offered a job in London, and then when he joint the Trunp campaign he was set up by MI6, and advised to meet with Joseph Mifsud, a Maltese Professor connected with the CIA, in Rome.

    It is likely that the CIA was the impetus for the Clinton Campaign to ultimately use Christopher Steele and his Russian contacts to put forward the pee-pee dossier.

    And, yes, is was the CIA that used Vindman to “whistle blow” on Trumps Ukraine call.

    I think you have the CIA revealed properly here but you omitted pointing out that, although all the facts you disclosed are easily uncovered with a little searching, mainstream media has not investigated and has done almost no reporting of the events you list. These are really big stories that real investigative journalists would love working on.

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  19. James Gawron Inactive
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    Freeven:

    Four years later and the threat of a corrupt and colluding media is even more apparent. Trump is largely responsible for exposing that, and he’s done a better job on policy than I’d hoped or imagined. Meanwhile, Biden’s faculties have has diminished to an alarming degree. He’s objectively more corrupt than Trump, and his policies are indistinguishable from suicide by government. I will clearly and unhesitatingly be voting for Trump this time. But make no mistake, the real import of this election lies elsewhere.

    The media must be stopped.

    Free,

    I accept your analysis. The only thing I would add is that although I didn’t predict Trump’s positive effect either it is undeniable. I would put it like this. Gd gave us a Trump. I didn’t know what a Trump was. Now I see that by whatever mysterious political alchemy the Trump seems to be pushing the tide of dangerous left-wing media cr*p back. I see no reason not to hope for more of the Trump because little else appears to work. The Democrats have done what I didn’t think possible, they have descended even lower. Steal the election by vote fraud. Destroy the economy by exaggerating a health crisis. Elect a senile man who was never anything but a cheap opportunist when he wasn’t senile while allowing a very left-wing woman to gain power who couldn’t possibly be elected if she was directly running. All of this to further totally insane policies that would severely damage if not destroy this country.

    One more time I will say it. Never in the History of the United States of America has a political party deserved to lose more than the 2020 Democrats.

    Regards,

    Jim

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  20. Flicker Coolidge
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    Bob Thompson (View Comment):

    Flicker (View Comment):

    Bob Thompson (View Comment):

    Do you remember when the House hearings were going on leading toward the Trump impeachment, we all knew who the ‘whistleblower’ was by name and that he was a CIA operative detailed to the NSC, but there was never a story in the mainstream media about this?

    From what I can tell, the CIA set up Flynn, I think starting as early as 2014, in London, or actually Cambridge, at a small dinner, at which Flynn was the guest speaker and to which Svetlana Lokhova, a PhD student and British citizen and expert on Soviet history, was invited.

    From a Politico article:

    Svetlana Lokhova filed the suit Thursday in federal court in Alexandria, Va., seeking more than $25 million in damages from longtime University of Cambridge academic Stefan Halper [a CIA connected American professor working at Cambridge] as well as The Wall Street Journal, The New York Times, The Washington Post and MSNBC.

    Lokhova alleges that Halper and the news outlets conspired to spread a false narrative that she approached then-Defense Intelligence Agency Director Michael Flynn on behalf of Russian intelligence at a seminar dinner in England in 2014 and that Flynn and Lokhova had an intimate relationship.

    That year, 2014, Flynn had written a paper critical of the CIA and I believe (it’s been a long time) calling for a restructuring of the CIA.

    George Papadopoulos was offered a job in London, and then when he joint the Trunp campaign he was set up by MI6, and advised to meet with Joseph Mifsud, a Maltese Professor connected with the CIA, in Rome.

    It is likely that the CIA was the impetus for the Clinton Campaign to ultimately use Christopher Steele and his Russian contacts to put forward the pee-pee dossier.

    And, yes, is was the CIA that used Vindman to “whistle blow” on Trumps Ukraine call.

    I think you have the CIA revealed properly here but you omitted pointing out that, although all the facts you disclosed are easily uncovered with a little searching, mainstream media has not investigated and has done almost no reporting of the events you list. These are really big stories that real investigative journalists would love working on.

    The media are in the train of the CIA.  They are not supposed to report it.

    [And Operation Mockingbird started prior to 1953.  Per wikipedia:

    Davis wrote that Frank Wisner, director of the Office of Policy Coordination (a covert operations unit created in 1948 by the United States National Security Council) had created Operation Mockingbird in response to the International Organization of Journalists, recruiting Phil Graham from The Washington Post to run the project within the industry. According to Davis, “By the early 1950s, Wisner ‘owned’ respected members of The New York Times, Newsweek, CBS and other communications vehicles.”[6] Davis wrote that after Cord Meyer joined the CIA in 1951, he became Operation Mockingbird’s “principal operative.”

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  21. Bob Thompson Member
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    Flicker (View Comment):

    Bob Thompson (View Comment):

    Flicker (View Comment):

    Bob Thompson (View Comment):

    Flicker (View Comment):

    I think the third evil is the CIA itself. We see coordination between media outlets, and there appears to be no reason for competing outlets to mirror one another. It appears to me, that there is another unifying force exerting its will. And that would be the CIA. After all, even the Russia collusion story and the framing of several of Trump’s campaign were performed not by the media (both at home and abroad) but by the CIA itself. The media were only the megaphone.

    Do you remember when the House hearings were going on leading toward the Trump impeachment, we all knew who the ‘whistleblower’ was by name and that he was a CIA operative detailed to the NSC, but there was never a story in the mainstream media about this?

    From what I can tell, the CIA set up Flynn, I think starting as early as 2014, in London, or actually Cambridge, at a small dinner, at which Flynn was the guest speaker and to which Svetlana Lokhova, a PhD student and British citizen and expert on Soviet history, was invited.

    From a Politico article:

    Svetlana Lokhova filed the suit Thursday in federal court in Alexandria, Va., seeking more than $25 million in damages from longtime University of Cambridge academic Stefan Halper [a CIA connected American professor working at Cambridge] as well as The Wall Street Journal, The New York Times, The Washington Post and MSNBC.

    Lokhova alleges that Halper and the news outlets conspired to spread a false narrative that she approached then-Defense Intelligence Agency Director Michael Flynn on behalf of Russian intelligence at a seminar dinner in England in 2014 and that Flynn and Lokhova had an intimate relationship.

    That year, 2014, Flynn had written a paper critical of the CIA and I believe (it’s been a long time) calling for a restructuring of the CIA.

    George Papadopoulos was offered a job in London, and then when he joint the Trunp campaign he was set up by MI6, and advised to meet with Joseph Mifsud, a Maltese Professor connected with the CIA, in Rome.

    It is likely that the CIA was the impetus for the Clinton Campaign to ultimately use Christopher Steele and his Russian contacts to put forward the pee-pee dossier.

    And, yes, is was the CIA that used Vindman to “whistle blow” on Trumps Ukraine call.

    I think you have the CIA revealed properly here but you omitted pointing out that, although all the facts you disclosed are easily uncovered with a little searching, mainstream media has not investigated and has done almost no reporting of the events you list. These are really big stories that real investigative journalists would love working on.

    The media are in the train of the CIA. They are not supposed to report it.

    Yes. Just wanted that said clearly.

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