Local Montanans Decide They’re Done Wearing Masks

 

I first noticed the pattern when picking up my cheese pizza at Little Caesar’s. Signs were everywhere: “Due to the Coronavirus, we are asking that you not wait in the lobby.” “Due to the governor’s order, masks are required for entry into this establishment.” With a little intake of breath, I realized I’d left my mask in the car. Then I saw that no one behind the counter was wearing a mask. Neither was the other customer, a man waiting casually in the lobby for his special order. The next time I got a hankering for pizza, I noticed the same thing. Montanans in our town are just finished with the mask mandate, and certain establishments and their clientele have tacitly agreed that going maskless is fine.

If I had a graph of mask compliance around here, it would show a steep, narrow curve. It’d start with about a third of locals in the stores wearing them, often older women and workers. Before the governor made the order, there were national guidelines, and probably some state and county recommendations, too, so we all had the feeling we were supposed to be wearing them. But the mask wearers stood out. And then the governor gave the order in July, some weeks after our re-opening, enforced through the businesses. Everyone was masked, and one of my friends told a story about being ordered out of a coffee shop after protesting she had a health condition, and told never to return. My graph shoots up to about 98%.

Then after some weeks, I noticed a trend of shoppers and workers wearing the masks right under their noses. They were wearing them just enough to avoid accusations of non-compliance. Not sure what that does to my graph. Enthusiasm was certainly falling. And now I go into places where almost no one is wearing a mask, or they’re doing it with the mouth-only compromise. They are only sort of wearing them. The line of my graph plummets down to 20% or so, except for in the number of stores that still strictly require them for entry.

The other night, upon entering a taco shop, I noticed that an older man and a younger one, presumably his son, had gone in right ahead of me. It was actually hard not to notice them, because before they strolled to the entrance, they were yelling back and forth, something about their car. It sounded like they were upset, but once in the restaurant, they appeared chummy and cheerful–Montanans do that sort of thing with their conversation decibels, and this public volume often has no correlation to feelings of anger. However, I also noted two other factors that had me tensed for some unpleasantness. First, there were signs pleading with customers to wear masks. One said: “Be kind. We are just trying to stay open.” I felt the pathos of the plea, and the resolution to uphold the requirement. Second, however, I saw that this vocal pair were not wearing masks, and neither were the required accessories anywhere near their persons.

But nothing unpleasant happened. The older man leaned up against the tall counter, behind which were both masked and sort-of-masked employees, and deliberated on his order. Near me stood another pair of customers who were not going to ruin their dinner out with face coverings, and a lady next to me who had her mask under her nose. “Do you want guacamole with that?” I could hear the server asking. The older man, after considering, said, “Yeah, go ahead and put all of the good stuff on it” in the same way a diner at a fine restaurant would order the hundred-dollar bottle of wine to go with the meal. He was already splurging on this pleasant fall evening, so he was going to go all out. Guacamole and everything. As they were ringing him up, the employees warmly wished him a great day. And they meant it.

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  1. Hammer, The Inactive
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    Old Bathos (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    How many people in this country have already had it? I don’t think it’s that big of a number.

    We have seen that we don’t need a big number. 70-80% of us may be resistant/immune apparently from past exposures to COVID variants. 80% of the Diamond Princess and Teddy Roosevelt groups tested negative despite definite enclosed spaces exposure. NYC has few cases and the count is now almost non-existent even though no more than 20% have the antibodies.

    The weasel position is that there is no herd immunity unless 60% or more have the antibodies. If that were true, the case count would have continued to rise and not declined in April in NY, NJ, MA and Europe. Lots of pre-existing resistance added to a small but significant chunk of those with antibodies clearly provides the functional equivalent of herd immunity. Rand Paul is right, Fauci is wrong about the interpretation of the NY numbers.

    The problem with that (now popular among the hysterical) mathematical herd immunity number is that it essentially envisions humans as a big drum full of marbles, constantly being turned.  If you look at any of the facebook/twitter-level “explanation memes,” you can see that this is the assumption.  Of course, real life doesn’t work that way.  There are quite a lot of reasons why the number would be significantly lower than the mathematical number.  People don’t all interact with one another, for instance.  There is some pre-existing immunity.  There is an enormous number of people who are relatively unaffected by this (anyone under 20, and most people under 70).  Etc… etc… etc…

    The assumption is that we start with mathematical models for herd immunity.  Of course, any legitimate scientist would test that assumption … evidence from that testing would lead to modification.  Actual science has been thoroughly rejected over the past 9 months, though.  If you engage in that sort of behavior, you will be censored, deligitimized, shut down…  Meanwhile, these natural experiments keep occurring, and we can see that the “herd immunity” threshold is significantly lower than previously assumed (and currently claimed).

     

     

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  2. Old Bathos Member
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    Hammer, The (View Comment):

    Old Bathos (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    How many people in this country have already had it? I don’t think it’s that big of a number.

    We have seen that we don’t need a big number. 70-80% of us may be resistant/immune apparently from past exposures to COVID variants. 80% of the Diamond Princess and Teddy Roosevelt groups tested negative despite definite enclosed spaces exposure. NYC has few cases and the count is now almost non-existent even though no more than 20% have the antibodies.

    The weasel position is that there is no herd immunity unless 60% or more have the antibodies. If that were true, the case count would have continued to rise and not declined in April in NY, NJ, MA and Europe. Lots of pre-existing resistance added to a small but significant chunk of those with antibodies clearly provides the functional equivalent of herd immunity. Rand Paul is right, Fauci is wrong about the interpretation of the NY numbers.

    The problem with that (now popular among the hysterical) mathematical herd immunity number is that it essentially envisions humans as a big drum full of marbles, constantly being turned. If you look at any of the facebook/twitter-level “explanation memes,” you can see that this is the assumption. Of course, real life doesn’t work that way. There are quite a lot of reasons why the number would be significantly lower than the mathematical number. People don’t all interact with one another, for instance. There is some pre-existing immunity. There is an enormous number of people who are relatively unaffected by this (anyone under 20, and most people under 70). Etc… etc… etc…

    The assumption is that we start with mathematical models for herd immunity. Of course, any legitimate scientist would test that assumption … evidence from that testing would lead to modification. Actual science has been thoroughly rejected over the past 9 months, though. If you engage in that sort of behavior, you will be censored, deligitimized, shut down… Meanwhile, these natural experiments keep occurring, and we can see that the “herd immunity” threshold is significantly lower than previously assumed (and currently claimed).

    Exactly

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  3. OldPhil Coolidge
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    Hammer, The (View Comment):

    This is relevant, @sawatdeeka: Worth a read.

    https://www.aier.org/article/covid-is-not-categorically-different/

    There’s a link in that excellent AIER column to a 2-hour video discussion with the four epidemiologists who initiated the Great Barrington Declaration. I’m watching it now, although in some spots it’s a bit difficult to follow because the audio is not the greatest. So far, a statement by Martin Kulldorff (Professor of Medicine, Harvard Medical School) on the risk of Covid-19 is key: “One more thing in the list of things that could happen to us.”

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  4. Kay of MT Inactive
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    My Kaylett and her fiance are in isolation, both are ill. She has been tested twice and is under observation by a nurse. Her oxygen levels alternate between 88 and 92. Other than being short of breath, no energy and occasional cough, says she feels fine. No prayer page so please keep her in mind as she has M.S.

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  5. sawatdeeka Member
    sawatdeeka
    @sawatdeeka

    Kay of MT (View Comment):

    My Kaylett and her fiance are in isolation, both are ill. She has been tested twice and is under observation by a nurse. Her oxygen levels alternate between 88 and 92. Other than being short of breath, no energy and occasional cough, says she feels fine. No prayer page so please keep her in mind as she has M.S.

    I’m sorry to hear that she is sick! 

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  6. RufusRJones Member
    RufusRJones
    @RufusRJones

    Incase I get hit by a bus, this is the greatest anti-mask article of all time. Sorry for the lack of quotes

    https://www.aier.org/article/the-year-of-disguises/ 

     

      

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  7. Flicker Coolidge
    Flicker
    @Flicker

    Kay of MT (View Comment):

    My Kaylett and her fiance are in isolation, both are ill. She has been tested twice and is under observation by a nurse. Her oxygen levels alternate between 88 and 92. Other than being short of breath, no energy and occasional cough, says she feels fine. No prayer page so please keep her in mind as she has M.S.

    I can put you on the prayer page if you like.

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  8. RufusRJones Member
    RufusRJones
    @RufusRJones

     

     

     

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  9. Fritz Coolidge
    Fritz
    @Fritz

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Incase I get hit by a bus, this is the greatest anti-mask article of all time. Sorry for the lack of quotes

    https://www.aier.org/article/the-year-of-disguises/

     

    Excellent article.  Science!

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  10. RufusRJones Member
    RufusRJones
    @RufusRJones

    This is absolutely hilarious about cloth masks. Start at 21:00. You cannot make it up. —-> Ep. 1756 The COVID Mask Controversy https://tomwoods.com/ep-1756-the-covid-mask-controversy/ 

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  11. JustmeinAZ Member
    JustmeinAZ
    @JustmeinAZ

    I went into a store yesterday (a small kitchen type store) and I refused to use the hand sanitizer – was told not to touch anything. Later an employee approached me and told me to pull my mask (the old dirty one I’ve been wearing for months) up over my nose. Maybe I should carry a copy of this picture with me:

    a person talking on a cell phone: House Speaker Nancy Pelosi introduces legislation to create 25th Amendment commission during news conference on Capitol Hill in Washington

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  12. sawatdeeka Member
    sawatdeeka
    @sawatdeeka

    Well, this year gets even weirder. Below is an e-mail update from my church this week: 

    __ Church Family,

    [Our hospital] is going to be utilizing the parking lot that we share with them for a drive-thru COVID testing site in the coming weeks. When you arrive this Sunday you will notice the large white tent they have set up near the entrance to our building and parking lot. Please note that we rent our building from [hospital], they actually own the parking lot, and they have been and continue to be very good about communicating with and taking care of us as tenants of the church building. 

    You will need to know a few things about how this will impact parking on Sunday mornings as well as throughout the week. The testing site will not be up and running this Sunday, it will simply be coned off. So, we will have access to almost our entire parking lot this Sunday, except, of course, the area occupied by the tent itself.

    When this testing site begins to operate, probably sometime this coming week, they will be operating 7 AM to 7 PM seven days a week. They will be reserving a number of parking spaces near our building for us to use for the elderly on Sundays and for groups using the building during the week. We have permission to use the parking lots of the  . . . building (connected to our parking lot to the east),  [clinic] (above our parking lot to the northeast, off of [street name]), and other parking lots nearby on Sundays and during the week as needed.

    We will be communicating further regarding this development as needed. Please consider praying with us regarding what opportunities this might present us in our location to minister the gospel to those coming through our parking lot in the coming days.

    In Christ,
    [Pastor’s Assistant]

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