Sacrifice to the ‘Gods’

 

Just when you think events can’t get uglier, people are now posting on Twitter that they hope President Trump will die from COVID-19. The depravity of these people knows no bounds. They hate President Trump to the degree that removing him from office is not sufficient; they now wish for his death.

In thinking over the statements from these people, I have wondered how the evil among their retinue continues to grow. Is it just a “natural” outgrowth of the irrational hatred of the President? Is it any worse than all the other lies and attacks he has endured?

It is worse.

How is Twitter responding?

Twitter is pledging to remove tweets rooting for President Trump’s death in the wake of his COVID-19 diagnosis.

The social media site’s communications department made the vow Friday evening, just hours after the Commander-in-chief was airlifted to hospital amid reports that he was having trouble breathing.

‘Tweets that wish or hope for death, serious bodily harm or fatal disease against *anyone* are not allowed and will need to be removed. This does not automatically mean suspension,’ an official statement from the company read.

Meanwhile, a tweet appeared, saying, “Listen, I don’t think Twitter is really enforcing it, so I hope Trump dies.”

It was followed by this one by the same poster: “Watch nothing happen.”

(I am not on Twitter, so I found this on the MSN site.)

Twitter has already stated that will need to prioritize tweets, since they can’t take enforcement action on every tweet.

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It occurred to me that in a secular and anti-religious environment, something else is going on. I believe that these people, at a conscious or even subconscious level, see the possibility of Trump’s dying as a way to have a corrupt kind of justice, in two ways. First, If Trump dies, he will permanently be removed from “causing any further harm” to the country. But the second possible reason is even more shocking: Trump will serve as a human sacrifice to the virus “gods”; his death will satisfy the unseen, frightening “gods” that might take the lives of those who are at risk for the virus. They have already demonstrated their disregard for the sanctity of life in other areas: letting the elderly die and aborting children. They hope by offering this pagan ritual of sacrificing Trump that they will spare themselves and others who follow their cause. They will placate the gods.

Who will be next?

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  1. Jon1979 Inactive
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    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    MarciN (View Comment):

    My son’s theory is that the Internet has given a public platform to the 5 percent of the population who are totally crazy. He thinks the lazy reporters who also live on the Internet are listening to this 5 percent and think they are more representative the general public than they actually are so they then amplify their crazy rantings. I think he’s right. I think most people remain sane, even the Democrats. I live among almost all Democrats, and even though they have ideas I don’t share, they aren’t malicious.

    I just don’t know, @marcin. I think it might be the other way around. I think the media is driving the narrative, and people who are already unbalanced are acting crazy. And I think there are lots more who believe the drivel from the media and the internet but don’t act nuts; they just think that way. I refuse to have conversations with people on the Left, but when I did, they may not have acted nuts but they thought that way.

    I think part of the problem is that media inevitably attracts “Change the World” types who don’t simply want to report news, they want to shape the narrative to get people to think like they do. Add to that the growing desire by big media companies suffering revenue losses from the Internet opting to niche themselves by catering to angry upper-middle class progressives (especially in newspapers, where the revenue model has shifted from selling ads to online subscriptions), and you end up with these same big media outlets not just catering to the 5 percent of the woke crazies, but hiring people who are part of the 5 percent woke crazies. That’s why an outlet like The New York Times can’t run a Tom Cotton op-ed, or post a Trump-neutral headline without facing a staff rebellion — the crazies are in the building, and their entire business model is now built around pandering to the crazies outside the building.

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  2. Bryan G. Stephens, Trump Avenger Thatcher
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    Jon1979 (View Comment):
    On the other hand, you can have atheists like a Penn Jilette who don’t disdain believers and will say some of the nicest people he’s ever met are fundamentalist Christians. It’s the angry types who use a non-belief in God to show their intellectual superiority to the masses that get into ‘othering’ believers and demanding they be silenced (with the irony being lots of these mental giants also get themselves wrapped up in New Age lifestyles or Wiccan beliefs, because the really smart people apparently believe in Paganism, and not the Christers’ Flying Spaghetti Monster….)

    Penn is one of the rare ones who is honest. Most of the angry types are angry at God for not being the God they want. 

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  3. Western Chauvinist Member
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    Old Bathos (View Comment):

    The mindset on display is not so much about sacrifice as it is the weird need for the left to dehumanize everybody not currently on their side. Sarah Palin and Judge Kavanaugh were not entitled to the presumptions of human dignity. The eminently decent George Bush ‘43 was Hitler. Trump is Satan or whatever.

    Dissent or disagreement can only be motivated by “hate” and hate means the forfeiture of all human rights, normal respect for feelings etc. Even if the “hate” is an unconscious manifestation of systemic societal racism or otherwise unintended, the failure to atone forfeits the right to respect of any kind.

    The idiots who hate us are prisoners of an ideology that does not respect the humanity and inherent rights of its own adherents so why would we expect them to behave humanely toward us?

    Leftism is fundamentally anti-human (and how you know it’s of the devil). Think of it: environmentalism isn’t about saving the planet for humans — it’s about saving the planet from humans. Otherwise, environmentalists would want to bring all 3rd world countries up to 1st-world standards, because people of affluence don’t live in effluence (I think Steve Hayward coined the phrase). Instead they want “population control” and to take us back to the pre-fossil fuel stone age (or at least back to intermittent and space-consuming windmills and choo choo trains). Did you know their plan is to replace coal-burning power plants with tree-burning power plants, since trees are “renewable?” You can’t make this shtuff up. 

    Same with feminism being ultimately anti-female (and most obviously, egregiously anti-male). In feminist leftist ideology, women are only fully human if we’re more like men — holding the same high-status positions (they never fight for women to become exterminators or deep sea fishermen) and having sex without having the natural consequence of conceiving and carrying a child (contraception and abortion). Feminism hates femininity — what makes women women.

    We shouldn’t be surprised that “secular humanism” is ultimately anti-human. Leftism is a Big Fat Lie that leftists will sometimes call the “Noble Lie,” because, for them, the utopian ends justify the deceptive means.  

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  4. Flicker Coolidge
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    It is simple destruction.  What God has built the Enemy will destroy.  From graffiti to vandalism, to burning inner cities to killing police officers like retired Officer Dorn to assassinating Aaron Danielson on the streets of Portland.  One can look for an expedient motive, but it is at root only destruction of that which is good, that which has been built, that which has value.  God is creative; Man at enmity with God is destructive.  Where the Spirit of God does not habit, the only spirit left in the vessel is ungodly and evil.  It is of note that evil is now being spoken of again, and reconsidered as a real thing, in politics, in life, and in society.

    What has been amazing me is the that since before Trump got ill, that people were crying out to him, “We love you!”  I don’t think I’ve heard of anyone saying that they love a politician in my lifetime.  People cried when Kennedy was shot.  People gloried and praised 0bama as their messiah.  But I don’t recall anyone shouting out, “We love you!”  This is amazing to me because it is so unusual, so foreign to our presumably jaded and wan society.

    Now that Trump is sick people are on the street demonstrating their love for this man and the hope his presence and work embodies.  This is old, too.  This, too, is reminiscent of King David’s adulation.

    Hatred I see and hear about all the time.  But love?  This is a glimpse of the other side of the unseen war that is being waged.

     

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  5. Henry Racette Member
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    One can, and should, judge an individual based on what that individual says and does. That’s just common sense.

    But it’s dangerous, though tempting, to judge humanity, or even a large subset of humanity, on what an individual does. It’s dangerous to judge many based even on what several individuals do.

    When the population is large enough and our ability to ferret out deplorable behavior is sufficiently developed, it’s inevitable that may examples, many anecdotal accounts, will be found of every abnormality and pathology. This is why I so dislike anecdotes in support of arguments. Pick your human failing and we can probably round up a few cases pretty quickly, even if they’re extraordinarily rare and unrepresentative of people as a whole.

    I think there’s way too much hatred and anger on the left, and that folks on the left have a willingness to give vent to it in a way that folks on the right generally don’t. I think that comes with the norm-breaking nature of radicals versus the toe-the-line nature of conservatives.

    But I’m sure that, if it were Mr. Biden or Mrs. Clinton or some equally awful person on the left who were ill, we could find — though it would take a bit more searching, I think — examples of conservatives saying similarly ugly things.

    I’m not saying that radicals and conservatives are equally misanthropic; I don’t believe that. I think the left hates more easily and with greater enthusiasm. But I do think that most people, left and right, are generally decent, despite the ready examples to the contrary that can be found in a wired nation of more than 300 million.

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  6. Vance Richards Inactive
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    Zafar (View Comment):

    Someone sent me this:

    Which is a good reminder that Indigenous Peoples Day is October 12th so if you were wondering how to celebrate that . . .

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  7. Jon1979 Inactive
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    Henry Racette (View Comment):

    I think there’s way too much hatred and anger on the left, and that folks on the left have a willingness to give vent to it in a way that folks on the right generally don’t. I think that comes with the norm-breaking nature of radicals versus the toe-the-line nature of conservatives.

    But I’m sure that, if it were Mr. Biden or Mrs. Clinton or some equally awful person on the left who were ill, we could find — though it would take a bit more searching, I think — examples of conservatives saying similarly ugly things.

    I’m not saying that radicals and conservatives are equally misanthropic; I don’t believe that. I think the left hates more easily and with greater enthusiasm. But I do think that most people, left and right, are generally decent, despite the ready examples to the contrary that can be found in a wired nation of more than 300 million.

    You can probably go back and find examples of people wishing the worst for Hillary after she collapsed after the 2016 9/11 event. The main difference is how acceptable the Trump hate is at so many of the media portals, and how many high-profile people on the left feel no qualms about saying things like that without negative career consequences. High-profile people on the right know saying stuff even far less offensive than that would be a career killer, so that only those with enough FU money in the bank are willing to be in any way critical of the Democrats’ leading lights in even the mildest way  (the rodeo clown with the Obama mask having his career destroyed is probably the best example of low-profile people getting othered).

    With the current Trump-hate, if portals like Twitter take some of the more egregious ones down, it’s done so because it might hurt Biden’s chances on Nov. 3, and not because the people running Twitter or the other big social media portals really find anything wrong with the statements.

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  8. Henry Racette Member
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    Jon1979 (View Comment):

    Henry Racette (View Comment):

    I think there’s way too much hatred and anger on the left, and that folks on the left have a willingness to give vent to it in a way that folks on the right generally don’t. I think that comes with the norm-breaking nature of radicals versus the toe-the-line nature of conservatives.

    But I’m sure that, if it were Mr. Biden or Mrs. Clinton or some equally awful person on the left who were ill, we could find — though it would take a bit more searching, I think — examples of conservatives saying similarly ugly things.

    I’m not saying that radicals and conservatives are equally misanthropic; I don’t believe that. I think the left hates more easily and with greater enthusiasm. But I do think that most people, left and right, are generally decent, despite the ready examples to the contrary that can be found in a wired nation of more than 300 million.

    You can probably go back and find examples of people wishing the worst for Hillary after she collapsed after the 2016 9/11 event. The main difference is how acceptable the Trump hate is at so many of the media portals, and how many high-profile people on the left feel no qualms about saying things like that without negative career consequences. High-profile people on the right know saying stuff even far less offensive than that would be a career killer, so that only those with enough FU money in the bank are willing to be in any way critical of the Democrats’ leading lights in even the mildest way (the rodeo clown with the Obama mask having his career destroyed is probably the best example of low-profile people getting othered).

    With the current Trump-hate, if portals like Twitter take some of the more egregious ones down, it’s done so because it might hurt Biden’s chances on Nov. 3, and not because the people running Twitter or the other big social media portals really find anything wrong with the statements.

    Jon, I think you’re exactly right. On the right, we push our nuts to the fringe; the left pushes theirs into the spotlight and hands them a microphone.

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  9. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    Henry Racette (View Comment):
    I’m not saying that radicals and conservatives are equally misanthropic; I don’t believe that. I think the left hates more easily and with greater enthusiasm. But I do think that most people, left and right, are generally decent, despite the ready examples to the contrary that can be found in a wired nation of more than 300 million.

    I agree with you, Hank. But we have to look at the choices they make. By that I mean the way they vote. In a sense, the Left acts out its anger, for example, through the vote. I don’t think their beliefs are for the betterment of the country; they are for an imaginary agenda that cannot be achieved. I have a problem with people who make decisions based on distorted or limited information, decisions that will affect everyone. 

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  10. GrannyDude Member
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    The reason the left has these fantasies and the right does not (for the most part, I hope?) is that the left honestly doesn’t get the whole “we debate…we argue…we attempt to persuade…and then we vote, and live with the result until the next election” thing.

    The same phenomenon struck me as peculiarly blind (yes, even in my liberal days) when proglefty friends cheered the attempted assassination of Reagan or  fantasized about killing W…  they don’t quite get the relationship between the president and the people, between Trump and  The Basket of Deplorables. We don’t work for him. He works for us.

    This, I think, is the reason conservatives tend not to hope for the death of a progressive leader. It’s not because we’re nicer (though of course, I think we are) or less bloodthirsty, but because we understand who, say, Obama was in relation to his voters. Getting rid of him would not change anything.

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  11. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    I’m delighted by all the thoughtful comments, although I am disappointed that no one agreed that “sacrificing to the gods” was a reasonable premise (although some agreed that the response of the crazy Left was a primitive response). Given the hysteria over the virus, I still believe that people want him to die, in part because they hold him responsible for the virus, or for the deaths that have resulted from it. Maybe it was a step too far to suggest that they wanted to sacrifice Trump to save themselves.

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  12. Jon1979 Inactive
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    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    I’m delighted by all the thoughtful comments, although I am disappointed that no one agreed that “sacrificing to the gods” was a reasonable premise (although some agreed that the response of the crazy Left was a primitive response). Given the hysteria over the virus, I still believe that people want him to die, in part because they hold him responsible for the virus, or for the deaths that have resulted from it. Maybe it was a step too far to suggest that they wanted to sacrifice Trump to save themselves.

    One of the things I remember from 1974, after Gerald Ford issued his pardon of Richard Nixon, was Bella Abzug, the far-less visually appealing AOC of her day, who had been lionized by the media during the House Judiciary Committee impeachment hearings, immediately called for the Democrats to impeach Ford for pardoning Nixon (which I suppose might also make her the Adam Schiff of her day).

    Abzug did convey the beliefs of the far left of her party in that time, which still holds true today in that the war is never over until the enemy is destroyed. Taking that to the current situation, and angry leftists wishing death on Trump as some sort of secular salvation, if he were to die of the virus, those same people would simply shift their death-wishing over to Mike Pence, while spouting lines about a fundamentalist Christian theocracy and running around in Handmaid’s Tale protest outfits, if the ballot was Pence-Biden on Nov. 3.

    Until all opposition is destroyed and the land is salted, they’re not going to change, since so many of them have substituted politics for religion in their lives. Any Republican political leader is going to be the new Hitler (even McCain in 2008), because the good/evil battle to them is wholly centered on power, and it’s why the left historically destroys themselves even when they’ve eliminated the right, because they’re full of people who demand total control and will sacrifice their allies to get it.

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  13. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    Jon1979 (View Comment):
    Taking that to the current situation, and angry leftists wishing death on Trump as some sort of secular salvation, if he were to die of the virus, those same people would simply shift their death-wishing over to Mike Pence, while spouting lines about a fundamentalist Christian theocracy and running around in Handmaid’s Tale protest outfits, if the ballot was Pence-Biden on Nov. 3.

    I completely agree. Mike Pence, one of our most honorable politicians, would probably seem even more like a threat, given his religiosity. 

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  14. Suspira Member
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    Susan Quinn: It occurred to me that in a secular and anti-religious environment, something else is going on.

    Your idea of their sacrificing to the virus gods (Science!) is insightful. I think, further, that they believe in magic, just a little bit, They believe their wishes have power. That maybe they can cause his death with their malice.

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  15. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    Suspira (View Comment):
    Your idea of their sacrificing to the virus gods (Science!) is insightful. I think, further, that they believe in magic, just a little bit, They believe their wishes have power. That maybe they can cause his death with their malice.

    Thank you. They do indulge in magical thinking, and I suspect they think they can control the future and outcomes. Again, primitive beliefs.

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  16. kedavis Coolidge
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    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    Zafar (View Comment):

    Someone sent me this:

    I guess some things don’t change, @zafar. But we are supposed to be a civilized society. Sigh.

    Of course, the left believes – or at least claims to believe – that those indigenous societies were SUPERIOR to ours.

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  17. kedavis Coolidge
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    Jon1979 (View Comment):

    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens, Trump Aveng… (View Comment):
    I have met few atheists who had no real faith, but they are few and far between. None of them trust other atheists because they see this need to be true, and they tend to acknowledge they are freaks. Of course, my sample size is really small, there are so few.

    I think atheists believe they’ve made up their own morality, @bryangstephens, but if you’ve grown up in the US, you have been exposed to the Judeo-Christian ethic everywhere you go your entire life. You could not have avoided it. But I think you are right; they won’t admit their belief, but at some level they share the same foundation.

    Even Bill Maher, who hates all religions and has contempt for its followers, has been forced to admit that fundamentalist Christians aren’t the threat others on the left make them out to be, compared to fundamentalist Islamic supporters. That’s gotten him in trouble with others on the left because their disdain for religion comes with an ideological qualifier, in that they hate what they grew up around and can’t control. So you see many of the angry progressive atheists give a pass to radical Islam, since they see them as sharing a common enemy in the current Judeo-Christian Western Civilization, and get mad at normal allies like Bill Maher, who doesn’t have a situational hatred of religion.

    On the other hand, you can have atheists like a Penn Jilette who don’t disdain believers and will say some of the nicest people he’s ever met are fundamentalist Christians. It’s the angry types who use a non-belief in God to show their intellectual superiority to the masses that get into ‘othering’ believers and demanding they be silenced (with the irony being lots of these mental giants also get themselves wrapped up in New Age lifestyles or Wiccan beliefs, because the really smart people apparently believe in Paganism, and not the Christers’ Flying Spaghetti Monster….)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rg0BdpJLfbg

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  18. kedavis Coolidge
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    MarciN (View Comment):

    My son’s theory is that the Internet has given a public platform to the 5 percent of the population who are totally crazy. He thinks the lazy reporters who also live on the Internet are listening to this 5 percent and think they are more representative the general public than they actually are so they then amplify their crazy rantings. I think he’s right. I think most people remain sane, even the Democrats. I live among almost all Democrats, and even though they have ideas I don’t share, they aren’t malicious.

    But they vote for people who ARE malicious…  And who support or at least ignore other people who ARE malicious: Antifa, BLM, etc.

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  19. kedavis Coolidge
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    Bryan G. Stephens, Trump Aveng… (View Comment):

    Jon1979 (View Comment):
    On the other hand, you can have atheists like a Penn Jilette who don’t disdain believers and will say some of the nicest people he’s ever met are fundamentalist Christians. It’s the angry types who use a non-belief in God to show their intellectual superiority to the masses that get into ‘othering’ believers and demanding they be silenced (with the irony being lots of these mental giants also get themselves wrapped up in New Age lifestyles or Wiccan beliefs, because the really smart people apparently believe in Paganism, and not the Christers’ Flying Spaghetti Monster….)

    Penn is one of the rare ones who is honest. Most of the angry types are angry at God for not being the God they want think they deserve.

    There you go.  :-)

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  20. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    kedavis (View Comment):
    But they vote for people who ARE malicious… And who support or at least ignore other people who ARE malicious: Antifa, BLM, etc.

    True! They will make excuses, well, they are violent, but they are acting on behalf of an important cause, or addressing their rage is long overdue, yadayadayad…. 

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  21. TBA Coolidge
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    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens, Trump Aveng… (View Comment):
    I have met few atheists who had no real faith, but they are few and far between. None of them trust other atheists because they see this need to be true, and they tend to acknowledge they are freaks. Of course, my sample size is really small, there are so few.

    I think atheists believe they’ve made up their own morality, @bryangstephens, but if you’ve grown up in the US, you have been exposed to the Judeo-Christian ethic everywhere you go your entire life. You could not have avoided it. But I think you are right; they won’t admit their belief, but at some level they share the same foundation.

    The Judeo-Christian ethic is thin on the ground and is hard to hear over the din of ‘competing narratives’. Academic and pop cultures are actively anti-religion and anti-standardized ethics. 

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  22. TBA Coolidge
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    MarciN (View Comment):

    My son’s theory is that the Internet has given a public platform to the 5 percent of the population who are totally crazy. He thinks the lazy reporters who also live on the Internet are listening to this 5 percent rather than talking to actual people. They mistakenly think they are more representative of the general public than they actually are so they then amplify their crazy rantings. I think he’s right. I think most people remain sane, even the Democrats. I live among almost all Democrats, and even though they have ideas I don’t share, they aren’t malicious.

    Certainly it is easier to surf the internet than it is to go out among the people. 

    This is an effect of Sloth that is not much considered; it is the basis of tunnel vision and the certainty of subgroup-think. 

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    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    Bill Nelson (View Comment):
    There are immoral people certainly, but they are not representative of the left or democrats.

    Reminds me of “mostly peaceful protests.”

     A protest is an event. People are individuals.

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  24. TBA Coolidge
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    The Scarecrow (View Comment):

    When he survives without a scratch (because almost everyone does), will they feel cheated? Will somebody feel justified in getting the equivalent of an Incan knife into him for the good of all? These are the people who said “nothing is off the table”.

    But on the plus side, won’t he then be immune? He can campaign-rally his butt off, drive them to new heights of crazy.

    Maybe his survival (assuming) will help people understand the actual danger rather than the hyped one. 

    Or just give rise to conspiracy theories. 

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  25. kedavis Coolidge
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    TBA (View Comment):

    The Scarecrow (View Comment):

    When he survives without a scratch (because almost everyone does), will they feel cheated? Will somebody feel justified in getting the equivalent of an Incan knife into him for the good of all? These are the people who said “nothing is off the table”.

    But on the plus side, won’t he then be immune? He can campaign-rally his butt off, drive them to new heights of crazy.

    Maybe his survival (assuming) will help people understand the actual danger rather than the hyped one.

    Or just give rise to conspiracy theories.

    Right.  Trump was given a super-secret vaccine brought from Europe on an SR-71 Blackbird…

    (I could make that conspiracy theory a lot nastier, but I won’t.)

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  26. Henry Racette Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    TBA (View Comment):

    The Scarecrow (View Comment):

    When he survives without a scratch (because almost everyone does), will they feel cheated? Will somebody feel justified in getting the equivalent of an Incan knife into him for the good of all? These are the people who said “nothing is off the table”.

    But on the plus side, won’t he then be immune? He can campaign-rally his butt off, drive them to new heights of crazy.

    Maybe his survival (assuming) will help people understand the actual danger rather than the hyped one.

    Or just give rise to conspiracy theories.

    Right. Trump was given a super-secret vaccine brought from Europe on an SR-71 Blackbird…

    (I could make that conspiracy theory a lot nastier, but I won’t.)

    What is the air-speed velocity of a laden Blackbird?

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  27. Percival Thatcher
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    Henry Racette (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    TBA (View Comment):

    The Scarecrow (View Comment):

    When he survives without a scratch (because almost everyone does), will they feel cheated? Will somebody feel justified in getting the equivalent of an Incan knife into him for the good of all? These are the people who said “nothing is off the table”.

    But on the plus side, won’t he then be immune? He can campaign-rally his butt off, drive them to new heights of crazy.

    Maybe his survival (assuming) will help people understand the actual danger rather than the hyped one.

    Or just give rise to conspiracy theories.

    Right. Trump was given a super-secret vaccine brought from Europe on an SR-71 Blackbird…

    (I could make that conspiracy theory a lot nastier, but I won’t.)

    What is the air-speed velocity of a laden Blackbird?

    Pretty slow. They were retired in 1998.

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  28. kedavis Coolidge
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    Percival (View Comment):

    Henry Racette (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    TBA (View Comment):

    The Scarecrow (View Comment):

    When he survives without a scratch (because almost everyone does), will they feel cheated? Will somebody feel justified in getting the equivalent of an Incan knife into him for the good of all? These are the people who said “nothing is off the table”.

    But on the plus side, won’t he then be immune? He can campaign-rally his butt off, drive them to new heights of crazy.

    Maybe his survival (assuming) will help people understand the actual danger rather than the hyped one.

    Or just give rise to conspiracy theories.

    Right. Trump was given a super-secret vaccine brought from Europe on an SR-71 Blackbird…

    (I could make that conspiracy theory a lot nastier, but I won’t.)

    What is the air-speed velocity of a laden Blackbird?

    Pretty slow. They were retired in 1998.

    Retired, yes, but from what I can find they still hold speed and altitude records.

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    TBA (View Comment):

    The Scarecrow (View Comment):

    When he survives without a scratch (because almost everyone does), will they feel cheated? Will somebody feel justified in getting the equivalent of an Incan knife into him for the good of all? These are the people who said “nothing is off the table”.

    But on the plus side, won’t he then be immune? He can campaign-rally his butt off, drive them to new heights of crazy.

    Maybe his survival (assuming) will help people understand the actual danger rather than the hyped one.

    Or just give rise to conspiracy theories.

    Right. Trump was given a super-secret vaccine brought from Europe on an SR-71 Blackbird…

    (I could make that conspiracy theory a lot nastier, but I won’t.)

    What is the air-speed velocity of a laden Blackbird?

    Pretty slow. They were retired in 1998.

    Retired, yes, but from what I can find they still hold speed and altitude records.

    If the USAF had anything that flew higher or faster – especially if it did both – do you really think that they’d tell us?

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  30. Jules PA Inactive
    Jules PA
    @JulesPA

    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    I’m delighted by all the thoughtful comments, although I am disappointed that no one agreed that “sacrificing to the gods” was a reasonable premise (although some agreed that the response of the crazy Left was a primitive response). Given the hysteria over the virus, I still believe that people want him to die, in part because they hold him responsible for the virus, or for the deaths that have resulted from it. Maybe it was a step too far to suggest that they wanted to sacrifice Trump to save themselves.

    They wanted him to die since Nov 2016. They are just happy for the corona virus narrative to ring their bell.

    What they forget is: if he does not die, but survives with strength and health, he crushes their narrative, while Biden keeps cowering in his basement.

    Oddly this narrative, of Trump as a vulnerable, who has the opportunity to overcone will ring the bell for many people.

    There is a kind of mythology going on.

    Oh, and G-d will not be mocked.

    Strength and health to all who are afflicted.

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