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Gateway Pundit is reporting that the Durham “report” will not see the light of day until after the election. Is this a gack of monumental proportions or a “ho hum?” Those of us who are convinced that the most epic treasonous conduct is about to be disclosed are justifiably outraged that this information is being withheld from the public at a critical time of decision. Those of us that see nothing wrong with the patriotic Americans using whatever tool was at hand to deny effective power to Orange Man Bad will see any other decision as mere political opportunism coordinated by and at the behest of the President.

In other words, nothing changes. Each group fears that without the “correct” timing of the report, the election will be improperly influenced. Denying important information for undecideds in the view of one; propagandizing undecideds in the view of the other.

This the Barr/Durham dilemma: Who do you outrage?

We are building a bonfire for this election and this is one more log on the fire.

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  1. EHerring Coolidge

    Am not worried. John Yoo just mentioned in the podcast/zoom meeting that Don posted that Durham wasn’t likely to pull a Comey right before an election. We know what the guilty did. Dems don’t care what they did. However, the guilty don’t know what Durham knows and will do. I am sure their wings are plucked for now and no government agency is spying on anyone.

    If Trump wins and they have lots of time, Durham might even wait until all the big fish are nabbed. If Trump loses, I doubt if Durham will trust the next administration to finish the work.

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    • September 27, 2020, at 9:35 AM PDT
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  2. philo Member

    I don’t really care if it comes out before the election but it needs to be released before Mr. Trump leaves office…and I don’t really give a rats @$$ what the (chronically) intellectually dishonest “patriots” on the other side think about it. They and their ilk will never accept the findings anyway.

    • #2
    • September 27, 2020, at 9:37 AM PDT
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  3. Bob Thompson Member

    Durham has not been assigned to produce a report. He is conducting a criminal investigation. The crime being investigated is a criminal conspiracy involving people of high intelligence, capability, knowledge, and occupying powerful positions in and out of government. When Trump wins re-election Durham’s investigation will continue. Otherwise, we don’t know what happens but, then, there will be a lot about the future we won’t know.

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    • September 27, 2020, at 10:05 AM PDT
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  4. Susan Quinn Contributor

    I’m very disappointed if a report is held back. At the same, I’m becoming more optimistic that Trump will win. I will try to be patient. (arrrgghhh!)

    • #4
    • September 27, 2020, at 10:14 AM PDT
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  5. Kozak Member
    KozakJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Is anybody really surprised?

    • #5
    • September 27, 2020, at 11:03 AM PDT
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  6. The Reticulator Member

    Kozak (View Comment):

    Is anybody really surprised?

    Why do you ask?

    • #6
    • September 27, 2020, at 11:23 AM PDT
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  7. Freeven Member
    FreevenJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    These types of “game changing” reports almost always disappoint.

    • #7
    • September 27, 2020, at 11:57 AM PDT
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  8. The Reticulator Member

    As far as electoral politics go, a report would just be a tool. There is no point in having a tool if nobody is going to use it, and we already have plenty of tools. 

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    • September 27, 2020, at 12:02 PM PDT
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  9. Ontheleftcoast Member

    Sundance of CTH spent a lot of time in DC in the last few weeks trying to give DOJ and other officials the big picture—and the supporting evidence—he’s put together over the years. His conclusion:

    Attorney General Bill Barr is trying to split the baby against two competing narratives.

    ♦ On one hand there is enough evidence to indict former officials for gross abuses of power, falsifying information to a FISA court (violating fourth amendment protections); manipulating investigative effort for political purposes; weaponizing the intelligence apparatus of the U.S. to target political opposition, and then using their positions to cover-up their corrupt and unlawful conduct.

    ♦ On the other hand there is a current highly toxic political environment; consisting of elected politicians and a fully vested branch of government; attempting to cloud the reality that corrupt former government officials worked hand-in-glove with deceitful media, which includes agents of Lawfare, who collaborated in the effort.

    This leads to current DC officials and people within those remaining institutions saying: “there are delicate balances.”

    In my opinion, in an effort to thread this needle -and considering the timing of the 2020 election- Bill Barr is using the document production from Missouri USAO Jeff Jensen as a backdoor method to provide the information he will not/cannot put forth in a press conference, report or series of indictments. This is why Jensen is providing new information to Michael Flynn’s defense attorney Sidney Powell.

    So Powell is Barr’s “insurance policy.”

    As Bookworm says, “middle class civil servants crave job security and will not allow principles to get in their way. (Please note that I don’t give myself any moral high ground as I have the same cowardly, middle class mindset.)” They’ll take out insurance; as we just saw with Strzok and company, not just the “insurance policy,” but actual liability policies.

    Bookworm continues:

    . . .I’m not sure that I would have had the moral fiber to do better. I’d certainly like to think that, if I saw the Federal Bureau of Investigation plotting a coup against a duly elected president, I’d speak up, but I don’t know. I can imagine myself thinking, “I’ve got a Mortgage, college funds, insurance payments, car payments, a house in a good neighborhood with good schools,” and a whole laundry list of other things (and people) dependent on my salary and, even more importantly, my benefits. I can then imagine telling myself that the FBI management must know what it’s doing, that everything will work out or, maybe, that I should have the taxpayers buy me insurance to protect all my middle-class concerns.

    Couple that with eight years of Clinton hires into the Civil Service, eight years of Bush mostly non-ideologue appointments but much lower rank hiring done by Clintonistas, followed by eight years of ideologue appointments and hires under Obama and here we are.

     

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    • September 27, 2020, at 12:03 PM PDT
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  10. Jim George Member

    Kozak (View Comment):

    Is anybody really surprised?

    No, but I will use the word Susan used to note how I feel about this decision— very, very disappointed. I continue to see Barr as one of the last hopes we have in the cesspool which dishonors the name of the Father of our Country, but I cannot help but be more and more disappointed in the difference between his often beautiful speeches and what I see as actual results from his leadership. As for Durham, all I know about him is what I read about his sterling reputation– impeccable is a word often used. Does the phrase “impeccable reputation” ring even just a faint little bell in someone’s memory about another “icon” of the law who turned out to be a fraudulent as the little man behind the curtain in a certain famous movie, which, now that I think about it, has a path in it known as The Yellow Brick Road, which it seems we’re being led on for the last four years. 

    Here’s a question: does it seem to you that the best way to secure immunity from criminal conduct is to run for public office and win, as after you win, you can’t be prosecuted as it will seem –gasp! — political in nature to go after you? 

    Inquiring minds want to know. 

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    • September 27, 2020, at 12:14 PM PDT
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  11. LibertyDefender Member

    Rodin: Gateway Pundit is reporting that the Durham “report” will not see the light of day until after the election. Is this a gack of monumental proportions or a “ho hum”?

    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    I’m very disappointed if a report is held back. … I will try to be patient. (arrrgghhh!)

    Joe diGenova said last Monday in his regular appearance on WMAL’s Mornings on the Mall radio program that if no report or indictments issue before the election, then Durham’s work will have been for naught.

    diGenova has been consistently premature in his announcements, but he’s never been wrong on the substance, to my knowledge. As we’re learning from the latest documents released in the Michael Flynn case, the President and Vice President of the United States participated in an active deceit of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court in order to sabotage the Trump presidential campaign and the Trump presidential transition and the Trump presidency.

    This is in addition to the damage that was inflicted on the American voters in 2018 by virtue of the fraudulent Mueller investigation being conducted with damaging leaks throughout. Without the Mueller investigation fraud, the Republicans would likely still control the House of Representatives.

    Attorney General William Barr has to know this. Every lawyer knows that when damage is intentionally inflicted on a party, that party is entitled to compensation by the intentional actor.

    The American voters demand compensation.

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    • September 27, 2020, at 12:26 PM PDT
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  12. Rodin Member
    Rodin

    LibertyDefender (View Comment):
    The American voters demand compensation.

    If they do, as I think they should, they have to show up and vote overwhelmingly for President Trump. And by “overwhelmingly” I mean in numbers too big to ignore. 

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    • September 27, 2020, at 12:40 PM PDT
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  13. Django Member

    Bob Thompson (View Comment):

    Durham has not been assigned to produce a report. He is conducting a criminal investigation. The crime being investigated is a criminal conspiracy involving people of high intelligence, capability, knowledge, and occupying powerful positions in and out of government. When Trump wins re-election Durham’s investigation will continue. Otherwise, we don’t know what happens but, then, there will be a lot about the future we won’t know.

    A while back Trey Gowdy said he didn’t expect any more indictments. If there are no more, does a report matter? Not at all to me. Business as usual.

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    • September 27, 2020, at 1:09 PM PDT
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  14. Kozak Member
    KozakJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Kozak (View Comment):

    Is anybody really surprised?

    Why do you ask?

    • #14
    • September 27, 2020, at 1:15 PM PDT
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  15. Randy Webster Member

    EHerring (View Comment):
    However, they guilty don’t know what Durham knows and will do.

    If Biden wins, it doesn’t matter what Durham does. No one will be prosecuted.

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    • September 27, 2020, at 1:44 PM PDT
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  16. Barfly Member

    Kozak (View Comment):

    Is anybody really surprised?

    Not me. What surprises me is how angry I’m becoming.

    • #16
    • September 27, 2020, at 1:49 PM PDT
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  17. Randy Webster Member

    Ontheleftcoast (View Comment):

    As Bookworm says, “middle class civil servants crave job security and will not allow principles to get in their way. (Please note that I don’t give myself any moral high ground as I have the same cowardly, middle class mindset.)” They’ll take out insurance; as we just saw with Strzok and company, not just the “insurance policy,” but actual liability policies.

    Bookworm continues:

    . . .I’m not sure that I would have had the moral fiber to do better. I’d certainly like to think that, if I saw the Federal Bureau of Investigation plotting a coup against a duly elected president, I’d speak up, but I don’t know. I can imagine myself thinking, “I’ve got a Mortgage, college funds, insurance payments, car payments, a house in a good neighborhood with good schools,” and a whole laundry list of other things (and people) dependent on my salary and, even more importantly, my benefits. I can then imagine telling myself that the FBI management must know what it’s doing, that everything will work out or, maybe, that I should have the taxpayers buy me insurance to protect all my middle-class concerns.

    Couple that with eight years of Clinton hires into the Civil Service, eight years of Bush mostly non-ideologue appointments but much lower rank hiring done by Clintonistas, followed by eight years of ideologue appointments and hires under Obama and here we are.

     

    Bookworm’s attitude is the reason we’re in the shape we’re in. Assuming one has any skills, one can always find another job. I’ve quit jobs before when I didn’t agree with management.

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    • September 27, 2020, at 1:50 PM PDT
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  18. kedavis Member

    Randy Webster (View Comment):

    Ontheleftcoast (View Comment):

    As Bookworm says, “middle class civil servants crave job security and will not allow principles to get in their way. (Please note that I don’t give myself any moral high ground as I have the same cowardly, middle class mindset.)” They’ll take out insurance; as we just saw with Strzok and company, not just the “insurance policy,” but actual liability policies.

    Bookworm continues:

    . . .I’m not sure that I would have had the moral fiber to do better. I’d certainly like to think that, if I saw the Federal Bureau of Investigation plotting a coup against a duly elected president, I’d speak up, but I don’t know. I can imagine myself thinking, “I’ve got a Mortgage, college funds, insurance payments, car payments, a house in a good neighborhood with good schools,” and a whole laundry list of other things (and people) dependent on my salary and, even more importantly, my benefits. I can then imagine telling myself that the FBI management must know what it’s doing, that everything will work out or, maybe, that I should have the taxpayers buy me insurance to protect all my middle-class concerns.

    Couple that with eight years of Clinton hires into the Civil Service, eight years of Bush mostly non-ideologue appointments but much lower rank hiring done by Clintonistas, followed by eight years of ideologue appointments and hires under Obama and here we are.

     

    Bookworm’s attitude is the reason we’re in the shape we’re in. Assuming one has any skills, one can always find another job. I’ve quit jobs before when I didn’t agree with management.

    I’ve quit jobs when the management decided everyone had to wear a dress shirt and tie, because the sales people – the only ones who actually interacted with the public – thought it was “unfair” that they had to but nobody else did.

    But there was always at least one other place eager to have me. I was a very proficient computer programmer/analyst, able to adapt to new systems very quickly, etc. I might be called in on a contract/consulting basis because everyone else at a company thought something was impossible. But I would do it anyway.

    I have to acknowledge, though, that especially in a relatively-high-unemployment market, most people are more interchangeable and replaceable than I was. And if you’re in a specialized area such as FBI or whatever, how likely are you to find some kind of equivalent position in the private sector? Especially without maybe having to relocate a fairly long distance, perhaps in a down housing market…

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    • September 27, 2020, at 2:03 PM PDT
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  19. Stad Coolidge

    I get tired of these books, reports, and revelations that aren’t released until after an election. With Trump, the Dems have proven they will throw everything they have before, during, and after the election. Can’t our side at least get one truth out there?

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    • September 27, 2020, at 2:29 PM PDT
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  20. DonG (Biden is compromised) Coolidge

    Every day of delay is another win for the Deep State. Paul Ryan could have stopped all this abuse and corruption in 2016 or 2017, but choose not to. The problem is deeper than a few dozen corrupt people in the D.C. We have the ICIG and Congressional oversight corrupted too. Who polices the policeman, when the watchers are corrupt too? Shame on the media and 60% of Americans for encouraging/supporting the corruption.

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    • September 27, 2020, at 2:40 PM PDT
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  21. John H. Member
    John H.Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Is there anything in the report which, if made known to certain people about 12:05 AM November 4, would strongly suggest Joe should abandon the idea of contesting vote counts and just concede he lost the election?

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    • September 27, 2020, at 4:03 PM PDT
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  22. Flicker Coolidge

    Kozak (View Comment):

    Is anybody really surprised?

    Unfortunately, no.

    • #22
    • September 27, 2020, at 5:29 PM PDT
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  23. Flicker Coolidge

    John H. (View Comment):

    Is there anything in the report which, if made known to certain people about 12:05 AM November 4, would strongly suggest Joe should abandon the idea of contesting vote counts and just concede he lost the election?

    Oh, yes. Give me that shred of hope. But no.

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    • September 27, 2020, at 5:45 PM PDT
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  24. Unsk Member

    Randy Web:” If Biden wins, it doesn’t matter what Durham does. No one will be prosecuted.”

    Thus in effect Justice will be denied for one of the biggest crimes in the nation’s history and it will haunt Barr and Durham for the rest of their lives. Durham should be fired immediately. This is a travesty of monumental proportions. So should Barr. 

    On the Left: “Attorney General Bill Barr is trying to split the baby against two competing narratives.”

     Justice is supposed to be blind, and those prosecuting should not ever, ever in any case seek to “split the baby” between what is just and what is the least contentious politically as Bill Barr has done. Barr may say a lot of great things but does not do his job which is to bring criminals, particularly as guilty as Comey, Brennan et al to justice. This prosecution of Comey, Mueller, Brennan et al is in many ways the same as the deference that BLM and Antifa are getting in these riots- they are being given extreme preferential treatment because the DOJ is afraid of the Left and the Media. We need a new Sheriff in town. Now. 

    The real question will be is if Trump is re-elected, what excuse will Barr and Durham come up with next time to delay this prosecution for another four years?

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    • September 27, 2020, at 6:51 PM PDT
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  25. Django Member

    Unsk (View Comment):

    Randy Web:” If Biden wins, it doesn’t matter what Durham does. No one will be prosecuted.”

    Thus in effect Justice will be denied for one of the biggest crimes in the nation’s history and it will haunt Barr and Durham for the rest of their lives. Durham should be fired immediately. This is a travesty of monumental proportions. So should Barr.

    On the Left: “Attorney General Bill Barr is trying to split the baby against two competing narratives.”

    Justice is supposed to be blind, and those prosecuting should not ever, ever in any case seek to “split the baby” between what is just and what is the least contentious politically as Bill Barr has done. Barr may say a lot of great things but does not do his job which is to bring criminals, particularly as guilty as Comey, Brennan et al to justice. This prosecution of Comey, Mueller, Brennan et al is in many ways the same as the deference that BLM and Antifa are getting in these riots- they are being given extreme preferential treatment because the DOJ is afraid of the Left and the Media. We need a new Sheriff in town. Now.

    The real question will be is if Trump is re-elected, what excuse will Barr and Durham come up with next time to delay this prosecution for another four years?

    I think the real question is how long Trump will tolerate these two if he is re-elected. Is it incompetence, cowardice, or both? 

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    • September 27, 2020, at 7:32 PM PDT
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  26. Rodin Member
    Rodin

    To paraphrase Lincoln’s message to timid General McClellan, President Trump might say to AG Barr: “If you aren’t going to use the Justice Department, I should like to borrow it for a little while.”

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    • September 27, 2020, at 11:57 PM PDT
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  27. ToryWarWriter Thatcher

    Not surprised. Durham has a long history of doing government white washes. I believe I previously mentioned that a long time ago.

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    • September 28, 2020, at 1:55 PM PDT
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  28. The Reticulator Member

    Ontheleftcoast (View Comment):
    As Bookworm says, “middle class civil servants crave job security and will not allow principles to get in their way. (Please note that I don’t give myself any moral high ground as I have the same cowardly, middle class mindset.)” They’ll take out insurance; as we just saw with Strzok and company, not just the “insurance policy,” but actual liability policies.

    That’s why I tweeted this a few days ago:

    https://twitter.com/Reticulator/status/1309578992819802114

    IIRC, the context was a discussion of possible whistleblowers at the DOJ. 

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    • October 1, 2020, at 7:10 AM PDT
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