Seriously?

 

Two (seemingly) unrelated news items from earlier today that made me verbalize (loudly) a few expletives that were bouncing around in my head:

Ohio woman tased after she refused to leave a middle school football game for not wearing a mask

4th grader suspended for having a BB gun in his bedroom during virtual learning

I say “seemingly unrelated” because they’re both a symptom of the sickness that has gripped our country.

How do we fix this? Not feeling very optimistic today.

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  1. Boss Mongo Member
    Boss Mongo
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    Seriously.

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  2. TBA Coolidge
    TBA
    @RobtGilsdorf

    Brutal lawsuits. Firings. 

    The creation of national databases for people who violate the civil rights of other people as government employees and the refusal to give government funds to institutions that hire such people in any capacity. 

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  3. Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… Member
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    @ArizonaPatriot

    Yes.  For the adult woman, her blatant disregard of the law is quite surprising, as well as the brazen way in which the lawbreaker thinks that she can resist arrest and refuse to follow the lawful instructions of a cop.

    The mask regulations are annoying.  But both local and state governments, and property owners, are allowed to set such regulations.  If you’re on someone else’s property, and they tell you to wear a mask or leave, you should either put on a mask, or leave.

    If you refuse to comply with a cop’s lawful orders, and resist his efforts to take you into custody for such lawbreaking, you may get tased.

    The story about the kid’s BB gun strikes me as a ridiculous overreach.

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  4. TBA Coolidge
    TBA
    @RobtGilsdorf

    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):

    Yes. For the adult woman, her blatant disregard of the law is quite surprising, as well as the brazen way in which the lawbreaker thinks that she can resist arrest and refuse to follow the lawful instructions of a cop.

    The mask regulations are annoying. But both local and state governments, and property owners, are allowed to set such regulations. If you’re on someone else’s property, and they tell you to wear a mask or leave, you should either put on a mask, or leave.

    If you refuse to comply with a cop’s lawful orders, and resist his efforts to take you into custody for such lawbreaking, you may get tased.

    The story about the kid’s BB gun strikes me as a ridiculous overreach.

    Are regulations that are not written into law ‘lawful’, properly speaking? 

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  5. Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… Member
    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio…
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    TBA (View Comment):

    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):

    Yes. For the adult woman, her blatant disregard of the law is quite surprising, as well as the brazen way in which the lawbreaker thinks that she can resist arrest and refuse to follow the lawful instructions of a cop.

    The mask regulations are annoying. But both local and state governments, and property owners, are allowed to set such regulations. If you’re on someone else’s property, and they tell you to wear a mask or leave, you should either put on a mask, or leave.

    If you refuse to comply with a cop’s lawful orders, and resist his efforts to take you into custody for such lawbreaking, you may get tased.

    The story about the kid’s BB gun strikes me as a ridiculous overreach.

    Are regulations that are not written into law ‘lawful’, properly speaking?

     

    I took the story as reported — she was on private property, at a school, which required masking.  She was told to mask, or leave, and she refused.  That’s generally a trespass.

    You seem to be assuming that she violated some other regulation or ordinance.  Do you know that they are not written into law?

    If it is a local mask law, I don’t even know the jurisdiction, and I haven’t parsed the laws in Ohio.  It would be perfectly reasonable for there to be a local ordinance or state law on the issue; or for there to be a health code giving the appropriate executive authority the right to require compliance with his directives in a public health emergency, violation of which would be punishable by law.

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  6. TBA Coolidge
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    @RobtGilsdorf

    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):

    TBA (View Comment):

    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):

    Yes. For the adult woman, her blatant disregard of the law is quite surprising, as well as the brazen way in which the lawbreaker thinks that she can resist arrest and refuse to follow the lawful instructions of a cop.

    The mask regulations are annoying. But both local and state governments, and property owners, are allowed to set such regulations. If you’re on someone else’s property, and they tell you to wear a mask or leave, you should either put on a mask, or leave.

    If you refuse to comply with a cop’s lawful orders, and resist his efforts to take you into custody for such lawbreaking, you may get tased.

    The story about the kid’s BB gun strikes me as a ridiculous overreach.

    Are regulations that are not written into law ‘lawful’, properly speaking?

    I took the story as reported — she was on private property, at a school, which required masking. She was told to mask, or leave, and she refused. That’s generally a trespass.

    You seem to be assuming that she violated some other regulation or ordinance. Do you know that they are not written into law?

    If it is a local mask law, I don’t even know the jurisdiction, and I haven’t parsed the laws in Ohio. It would be perfectly reasonable for there to be a local ordinance or state law on the issue; or for there to be a health code giving the appropriate executive authority the right to require compliance with his directives in a public health emergency, violation of which would be punishable by law.

    I don’t know either. The question remains. 

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