What Happened on Fox When Gingrich Mentioned Soros?

 

Something odd happened on Fox when former Speaker Newt Gingrich, a guest on the show Outnumbered, mentioned George Soros as one of the people funding the radical segments of our society, including BLM, the riots, etc. He was cut off by two of the panel, and an awkward pause ensued. Then they cut him off and proceeded to talk about another story.

Soros has been accused of buying the media and fueling government disruptions across the globe for decades. A critical election is seven weeks out and much of the media is biased toward the liberal agenda and beyond. Fox remains one of the few forums that offer alternative thought, including news stories that many will not touch. So what happened when Newt used the “S” word on their show? You be the judge:

Harris Faulker, who hosts the show was caught off guard and had something to say about it.

“So, we had a little incident on the show yesterday that was not smooth,” she said. “While I was leading that segment, we had interruptions, and I sat silently while all of that played out. Also not ideal. Our guest, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, who is beloved and needed to be allowed to speak with the openness and respect that the show was all about, was interrupted. Do we debate with fire here? Yes. But we must also give each other the space to express ourselves.”

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  1. kedavis Coolidge
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    Stina (View Comment):

    Flicker (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Flicker (View Comment):
    Is Soros even a US citizen?

    I’m pretty sure he is.

    Yes, according to wikipedia (which is 80% right 50% of the time) he has dual citizenship in Hungary and the United States.

    We should not have dual citizenship.

    I agree.  Anyone who doesn’t renounce their other citizenship, should lose their US one. But the problem is that even if they do so, it may not matter to the other country.

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  2. Goldwaterwoman Thatcher
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    Zafar (View Comment):

    I couldn’t find anything credible linking him to open borders. (Credible meaning something that included proof instead of just accusations.)

    I remain perplexed.

    Perhaps you didn’t look quite hard enough. Follow this link for a list of organizations funded either partly or in whole by George Soros: https://thewillcountynews.com/install/index.php/2020/01/11/complete-list-of-u-s-organizations-funded-by-george-soros/

    Here’s a link to a Washington Examiner profile of his activities to destroy America as we know it: https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jan/25/george-soros-89-still-quest-destroy-america/

     

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  3. Zafar Member
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    Goldwaterwoman (View Comment):

    Zafar (View Comment):

    I couldn’t find anything credible linking him to open borders. (Credible meaning something that included proof instead of just accusations.)

    I remain perplexed.

    Perhaps you didn’t look quite hard enough. Follow this link for a list of organizations funded either partly or in whole by George Soros: https://thewillcountynews.com/install/index.php/2020/01/11/complete-list-of-u-s-organizations-funded-by-george-soros/

    Which of those specifically argues for open borders for America?

    Here’s a link to a Washington Examiner profile of his activities to destroy America as we know it: https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jan/25/george-soros-89-still-quest-destroy-america/

    Understated. 

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  4. Gary McVey Contributor
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    The name, “Open Society” doesn’t itself refer to open borders. In fact, most conservatives would and did laud the way it started: as a way of welcoming eastern and central European countries into the West after the collapse of Communism. That’s the “open society” it meant. 

    We should see it as two issues. Other commenters have raised the reasonable (to me) objection of why is Soros taking sides in local races? Sheldon Adelson does too. Domestically, Soros is not much different from Shelly as a political force, but targets his money more strategically. “Manipulative” is putting it mildly. 

    His work in Europe is a different case. He’s not trying to pick the mayor of Cluj or Balaton. But shrewd Right writers have made a case that Soros’ activities in Hungary run into cultural differences that American liberals are simply blind to.

    In America, we’ve had decades of experience dealing with the influence of private foundations, from the Ford Foundation to the Federalist Society, from NOW to the Independent Women’s Forum. Like the church in the Middle Ages, they have the ability to influence the powerful, but they don’t exert that power themselves. In that part of Europe, they’ve got no past experience with groups that acquire obvious power but can’t be checked by conventional political means. A lot of people don’t like it, but I understand why. 

     

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  5. RufusRJones Member
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    Today I just heard that his endowment for this stuff is now worth $18 billion.

    Gee, do you think any of this money is going to election integrity?

    It was a really bad idea to let him become a citizen.

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  6. Zafar Member
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    Gary McVey (View Comment):

    We should see it as two issues. Other commenters have raised the reasonable (to me) objection of why is Soros taking sides in local races? Sheldon Adelson does too.

    Because the system allows it, more or less, and the results of local races have a cummulative impact.

    Whether allowing it is intrinsically corrupting of the process is another issue.  And by “it” I mean non-local support in the form of funds inevitably reduces the impact/importance of local support.  I don’t know if it’s more pro or con in balance.

    Domestically, Soros is not much different from Shelly as a political force, but targets his money more strategically. “Manipulative” is putting it mildly. 

    His work in Europe is a different case. He’s not trying to pick the mayor of Cluj or Balaton. But shrewd Right writers have made a case that Soros’ activities in Hungary run into cultural differences that American liberals are simply blind to.

    Governments do not like dissent, or voices putting forward a view that runs counter to the official narrative.  In general, but in Hungary in this instance about migrants/asylum seekers.

    From Forbes:

    Central European University in Hungary, founded and funded by Hungarian-American billionaire George Soros after the collapse of the Soviet Union to spread principles of democracy and free society, announced yesterday that it was being forced from its campus in Budapest by the far-right government of Prime Minister Viktor Orban….

    In June, Hungary passed a measure it called the “Stop Soros” law. Crafted by Orban himself, it created a new crime, called “promoting and supporting illegal migration,” banning organizations from helping undocumented immigrants. Under the new law, distributing information about the asylum process or giving migrants financial help, could result in a 12-month jail sentence.

    Criminalising the distribution of information about the asylum process is a lot of things, but what it is not is the mark of a free society.  Making it illegal to assist a group of people isn’t either.

    I get that Soros’ take on nationalism isn’t palatable to many – I’m not sure that I agree with it myself.  But given the formative experiences of his youth you can understand why he feels the way he does – and what he wants to achieve with his foundations.  It’s one conclusion of many, certainly, but that’s what it looks like to me in terms of his world view and motivation.

    In that part of Europe, they’ve got no past experience with groups that acquire obvious power but can’t be checked by conventional political means.

    I guess free societies have limits in how far they can check the individual or group of individuals when it comes to dissent or nonviolent personal expressions of political opinion.  That seems to be the difference to me between Western and Eastern Europe.

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  7. DrewInWisconsin, Man of Constant Sorrow Member
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    Flicker (View Comment):

    Is Soros even a US citizen? If so, does he have dual citizenship? If he is not a US citizen, is he using front groups to launder his political donations?

    The number of groups that Open Society funds are legion. And those groups spawn their own groups, many of them just fake groups with little more than a website. Soros is hidden behind a wall of front groups, but follow the money and you get to him eventually. It’s so weird you think it can’t be real. The left freaks out about the Kochtopus, but in comparison, the Sorospus has 10 times as many tentacles.

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  8. RufusRJones Member
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  9. DrewInWisconsin, Man of Constant Sorrow Member
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    Zafar (View Comment):
    I get that Soros’ take on nationalism isn’t palatable to many – I’m not sure that I agree with it myself. But given the formative experiences of his youth you can understand why he feels the way he does – and what he wants to achieve with his foundations.

    No, I can’t understand what the acquisition of limitless amounts of money and power has to do with “the formative experiences of his  youth.” Unless you’re saying “this is why he turned into a nation-destroying supervillain.”

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  10. RufusRJones Member
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    DrewInWisconsin, Man of Consta… (View Comment):

    Zafar (View Comment):
    I get that Soros’ take on nationalism isn’t palatable to many – I’m not sure that I agree with it myself. But given the formative experiences of his youth you can understand why he feels the way he does – and what he wants to achieve with his foundations.

    No, I can’t understand what the acquisition of limitless amounts of money and power has to do with “the formative experiences of his youth.” Unless you’re saying “this is why he turned into a nation-destroying supervillain.”

    I read a book of his a million years ago. He thinks that one global currency and one global government will solve a lot of problems. Then he does a lot of underhanded things with his money to achieve that. The simple fact is, we have been regressing for 30 years and socialism looks pretty attractive to too many people. 

    Like I said in an earlier podcast, if you late listen to the latest American greatness podcast Chris Buskirk talks to a couple of Europeans that really get into the details of this dynamic. I find it all tedious, but somebody has to do it.

    It’s so unfortunate that we have to worry about this jerk off.

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  11. Flicker Coolidge
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    DrewInWisconsin, Man of Consta… (View Comment):

    Zafar (View Comment):
    I get that Soros’ take on nationalism isn’t palatable to many – I’m not sure that I agree with it myself. But given the formative experiences of his youth you can understand why he feels the way he does – and what he wants to achieve with his foundations.

    No, I can’t understand what the acquisition of limitless amounts of money and power has to do with “the formative experiences of his youth.” Unless you’re saying “this is why he turned into a nation-destroying supervillain.”

    Actually, Soros says that being the safe-and-secure aide of a nazi who confiscated property from his fellow Jews was the formative moment in his life.  And he admits that shorting various country’s currencies and crashing their currencies is immoral, but he does it anyway — this apparently is simply because he can.

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  12. RufusRJones Member
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    Flicker (View Comment):
    And he admits that shorting various country’s currencies and crashing their currencies is immoral, but he does it anyway — this apparently is simply because he can.

    I’ve explained this before. He just looks for imbalances and then tips them over. He’s just seizing on bad government. It would happen anyway.

    I think the real crime is why hedge funds can make so much money off of currency trading. That is an artifact of a terrible global monetary regime. I’m totally against Big Finance and modern central banking, but I don’t think Soros is a big criminal in this sense.

    The reason he has so many various forms of power that makes us all vomit is because of bad government. 

    It’s been along time since I’ve said this, but Mises.org is right about everything. 

     

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  13. Flicker Coolidge
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Flicker (View Comment):
    And he admits that shorting various country’s currencies and crashing their currencies is immoral, but he does it anyway — this apparently is simply because he can.

    I’ve explained this before. He just looks for imbalances and then tips them over. He’s just seizing on bad government. It would happen anyway.

    I think the real crime is why hedge funds can make so much money off of currency trading. That is an artifact of a terrible global monetary regime. I’m totally against Big Finance and modern central banking, but I don’t think Soros is a big criminal in this sense.

    The reason he has so many various forms of power that makes us all vomit is because of bad government.

    It’s been along time since I’ve said this, but Mises.org is right about everything.

    Yes, but if I recall correctly, he actually said that what he did was bad or immoral.  Adding that he was making up for it with his philanthropy (which takes the shape of political terraforming).

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  14. Goldwaterwoman Thatcher
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    Flicker (View Comment):
    Actually, Soros says that being the safe-and-secure aide of a nazi who confiscated property from his fellow Jews was the formative moment in his life. And he admits that shorting various country’s currencies and crashing their currencies is immoral, but he does it anyway — this apparently is simply because he can.

    I don’t see how he could have been very effective as an aid since he was born in 1930. He would have been nine when the war started in Europe in 1939 and only 16 when it ended. 

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  15. Stina Inactive
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    Goldwaterwoman (View Comment):

    Flicker (View Comment):
    Actually, Soros says that being the safe-and-secure aide of a nazi who confiscated property from his fellow Jews was the formative moment in his life. And he admits that shorting various country’s currencies and crashing their currencies is immoral, but he does it anyway — this apparently is simply because he can.

    I don’t see how he could have been very effective as an aid since he was born in 1930. He would have been nine when the war started in Europe in 1939 and only 16 when it ended.

    He aided in the seizure of Jewish property by his Nazi client, right?

    It would make sense him being valuable if his being a Jewish child made it easier for Jews and others to disclose in his presence what they were hiding. Tip off the Nazi, he sweeps in and arrests, and pulls in the hidden goods.

    I know hiding wealth and identity got big late in the game. A 12-13 yo kid as spy would have been a valuable asset.

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  16. Flicker Coolidge
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    Goldwaterwoman (View Comment):

    Flicker (View Comment):
    Actually, Soros says that being the safe-and-secure aide of a nazi who confiscated property from his fellow Jews was the formative moment in his life. And he admits that shorting various country’s currencies and crashing their currencies is immoral, but he does it anyway — this apparently is simply because he can.

    I don’t see how he could have been very effective as an aid since he was born in 1930. He would have been nine when the war started in Europe in 1939 and only 16 when it ended.

    Soros says he was 14 years old when he was given to a German officer, allegedly adopted by him at the request of his father, and he assisted his adoptive father with the confiscation of property.

    Soros also said that “that’s when my character was made”.

    ***

    Interviewer: You went out and helped in the confiscation of property from the Jews.

    Soros: That’s right. Yes.

    Interviewer: That sounds like an experience that would send lots of people to the psychiatric couch for many, many years.  Was it difficult?

    Soros (smilingly and shaking his head): Nuh-, nuh-.  Not at all.  Not at all.  Maybe as a child you don’t see the connection but it was — it created no — no problem at all.

    Interviewer: No feeling of guilt.

    Soros: No.  But there was no sense that I shouldn’t be there, because that was, uh, uh, well actually in a funny way, it’s — just like in the markets — that if I weren’t there, of course I wasn’t doing it, but somebody else would be taking away anyhow.  Whether I was there or not, I was only a spectator, the property was being taken away.  So I had no role in taking away that property.  So I had no sense of guilt.

    (This was from a heavily-edited 60 Minutes interview.)

    Again I point out Soros states that this was formative of his character.

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  17. Flicker Coolidge
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    Stina (View Comment):

    Goldwaterwoman (View Comment):

    Flicker (View Comment):
    Actually, Soros says that being the safe-and-secure aide of a nazi who confiscated property from his fellow Jews was the formative moment in his life. And he admits that shorting various country’s currencies and crashing their currencies is immoral, but he does it anyway — this apparently is simply because he can.

    I don’t see how he could have been very effective as an aid since he was born in 1930. He would have been nine when the war started in Europe in 1939 and only 16 when it ended.

    He aided in the seizure of Jewish property by his Nazi client, right?

    It would make sense him being valuable if his being a Jewish child made it easier for Jews and others to disclose in his presence what they were hiding. Tip off the Nazi, he sweeps in and arrests, and pulls in the hidden goods.

    I know hiding wealth and identity got big late in the game. A 12-13 yo kid as spy would have been a valuable asset.

    I don’t think he was a spy.  He and his siblings were saying they were Christians.

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  18. RufusRJones Member
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    Flicker (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Flicker (View Comment):
    And he admits that shorting various country’s currencies and crashing their currencies is immoral, but he does it anyway — this apparently is simply because he can.

    I’ve explained this before. He just looks for imbalances and then tips them over. He’s just seizing on bad government. It would happen anyway.

    I think the real crime is why hedge funds can make so much money off of currency trading. That is an artifact of a terrible global monetary regime. I’m totally against Big Finance and modern central banking, but I don’t think Soros is a big criminal in this sense.

    The reason he has so many various forms of power that makes us all vomit is because of bad government.

    It’s been along time since I’ve said this, but Mises.org is right about everything.

    Yes, but if I recall correctly, he actually said that what he did was bad or immoral. Adding that he was making up for it with his philanthropy (which takes the shape of political terraforming).

    I think we are pretty much saying the same thing. 

    The Podesta brothers should be in jail but they didn’t do anything illegal, either.

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  19. Flicker Coolidge
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Flicker (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Flicker (View Comment):
    And he admits that shorting various country’s currencies and crashing their currencies is immoral, but he does it anyway — this apparently is simply because he can.

    I’ve explained this before. He just looks for imbalances and then tips them over. He’s just seizing on bad government. It would happen anyway.

    I think the real crime is why hedge funds can make so much money off of currency trading. That is an artifact of a terrible global monetary regime. I’m totally against Big Finance and modern central banking, but I don’t think Soros is a big criminal in this sense.

    The reason he has so many various forms of power that makes us all vomit is because of bad government.

    It’s been along time since I’ve said this, but Mises.org is right about everything.

    Yes, but if I recall correctly, he actually said that what he did was bad or immoral. Adding that he was making up for it with his philanthropy (which takes the shape of political terraforming).

    I think we are pretty much saying the same thing.

    The Podesta brothers should be in jail but they didn’t do anything illegal, either.

    Yes, I should have said, “Yes, and…”

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  20. RufusRJones Member
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    Government Is How We Steal From Each Other™

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  21. DrewInWisconsin, Man of Constant Sorrow Member
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Government Is How We Steal From Each Other™

    Most of us don’t steal, so there’s no “each other” there. It’s not a mutual thing.

    • #111
  22. RufusRJones Member
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    DrewInWisconsin, Man of Consta… (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Government Is How We Steal From Each Other™

    Most of us don’t steal, so there’s no “each other” there. It’s not a mutual thing.

    Have you ever heard of redistribution, or lobbying for advantage? It is wise to get in on the action.

    • #112
  23. DrewInWisconsin, Man of Constant Sorrow Member
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Man of Consta… (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Government Is How We Steal From Each Other™

    Most of us don’t steal, so there’s no “each other” there. It’s not a mutual thing.

    Have you ever heard of redistribution, or lobbying for advantage? It is wise to get in on the action.

    I suppose it is. I don’t know how. But if anyone wishes to redistribute some cash to me, that’s be great.

    • #113
  24. RufusRJones Member
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    DrewInWisconsin, Man of Consta… (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Man of Consta… (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Government Is How We Steal From Each Other™

    Most of us don’t steal, so there’s no “each other” there. It’s not a mutual thing.

    Have you ever heard of redistribution, or lobbying for advantage? It is wise to get in on the action.

    I suppose it is. I don’t know how. But if anyone wishes to redistribute some cash to me, that’s be great.

    Get an unfunded pension and medical system from the government. There are all kinds of things like that.

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  25. Front Seat Cat Member
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Flicker (View Comment):
    And he admits that shorting various country’s currencies and crashing their currencies is immoral, but he does it anyway — this apparently is simply because he can.

    I’ve explained this before. He just looks for imbalances and then tips them over. He’s just seizing on bad government. It would happen anyway.

    I think the real crime is why hedge funds can make so much money off of currency trading. That is an artifact of a terrible global monetary regime. I’m totally against Big Finance and modern central banking, but I don’t think Soros is a big criminal in this sense.

    The reason he has so many various forms of power that makes us all vomit is because of bad government.

    It’s been along time since I’ve said this, but Mises.org is right about everything.

     

    Just like with all the big money “suddenly” pouring into the Biden campaign, the mega rich think they can buy anything, including power, control, political seats and even countries…….it didn’t help Hilary and I don’t think it will help sleepy Joe…

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  26. Front Seat Cat Member
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    Flicker (View Comment):

    Goldwaterwoman (View Comment):

    Flicker (View Comment):
    Actually, Soros says that being the safe-and-secure aide of a nazi who confiscated property from his fellow Jews was the formative moment in his life. And he admits that shorting various country’s currencies and crashing their currencies is immoral, but he does it anyway — this apparently is simply because he can.

    I don’t see how he could have been very effective as an aid since he was born in 1930. He would have been nine when the war started in Europe in 1939 and only 16 when it ended.

    Soros says he was 14 years old when he was given to a German officer, allegedly adopted by him at the request of his father, and he assisted his adoptive father with the confiscation of property.

    Soros also said that “that’s when my character was made”.

    ***

    Interviewer: You went out and helped in the confiscation of property from the Jews.

    Soros: That’s right. Yes.

    Interviewer: That sounds like an experience that would send lots of people to the psychiatric couch for many, many years. Was it difficult?

    Soros (smilingly and shaking his head): Nuh-, nuh-. Not at all. Not at all. Maybe as a child you don’t see the connection but it was — it created no — no problem at all.

    Interviewer: No feeling of guilt.

    Soros: No. But there was no sense that I shouldn’t be there, because that was, uh, uh, well actually in a funny way, it’s — just like in the markets — that if I weren’t there, of course I wasn’t doing it, but somebody else would be taking away anyhow. Whether I was there or not, I was only a spectator, the property was being taken away. So I had no role in taking away that property. So I had no sense of guilt.

    (This was from a heavily-edited 60 Minutes interview.)

    Again I point out Soros states that this was formative of his character.

    Funny? Gads!  There seems to be a similarity between the personalities of Soros and Gates – a disconnect of conscience and deed. 

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  27. The Reticulator Member
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    Front Seat Cat (View Comment):
    Just like with all the big money “suddenly” pouring into the Biden campaign, the mega rich think they can buy anything, including power, control, political seats and even countries…….it didn’t help Hilary and I don’t think it will help sleepy Joe…

    I’m pretty sure it helped Hillary. It just didn’t help her enough. 

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