Republicans Fight for a Fair Election

 

The Democrats have a lot of nerve. While they are busy announcing that Trump will not leave the White House if he loses the election (just another way he’s baited them), the Democrats are going all out to make sure that nothing gets in the way of a Democrat victory. But the Republicans are not sitting by quietly while the Democrats run all over them: they are fighting aggressively to make sure that the election is a fair one.

What are the Democrats doing to ensure a fair election?

Various groups and citizens across the country, meanwhile, are seeking via lawsuits to push back the mail-in voting deadlines set by state governments, arguing that existing deadlines are too stringent and will result in the effective disenfranchisement of voters who don’t submit their ballots early enough.

Several lawsuits have been brought or supported by groups associated with notable Democrat politicians.

Among them are a series of three suits brought by the National Redistricting Foundation, a litigation group associated with the National Democratic Redistricting Committee, a political action committee headed by former Obama Administration Attorney General Eric Holder.

For a description of the suits, you can go here.

The Democrats seem to think that the longer they can drag out receiving and counting mail-in ballots, the better chance their candidate has to win. Otherwise, they would urge citizens to ask for their ballots well in advance of November 3 and meet deadlines that would ensure their ballots are received in plenty of time.

The lawsuits are piling up :

As of August 31, there have been at least 245 coronavirus election cases filed in 45 states, the District of Columbia and Puerto Rico, according to Justin Levitt, a professor at Loyola Law School, who has been tracking the disputes that seek to shape the election rules. He says he started counting the cases a few months ago.

But the Republicans have rallied their supporters and are not taking these lawsuits lying down. The Trump campaign is sending a detailed questionnaire to election officials to track the mail-in ballot process. Here are a couple of examples:

More than 1,800 municipal clerks in Wisconsin received a document in recent weeks that state officials said looked at first glance like a public records request, but that was actually a document from the Trump Victory team seeking data, according to Reid Magney, spokesman for the Wisconsin Elections Commission.

And in Georgia, county officials received a 59-question document from the President’s reelection team that probed how that state’s mail-in system will be structured at every level. One question on the list, obtained by CNN, even asked if there’s a way to tell if a ballot was sent by a Democrat or Republican.

The Wisconsin questionnaire, a copy of which was obtained by CNN, raises questions about whether remote voting processes are trustworthy.

The Trump campaign has earmarked $20 million for litigation, and they’re trying to enlist 50,000 volunteers to monitor polling places. And they are determined, no matter how many lawsuits and how long it takes, to end up with fair results:

‘Democrats have filed one crazy lawsuit after another in 18 states across the country, working to undermine the integrity of our election,’ Matthew Morgan, Trump 2020 general counsel, said in a statement to CBS News. ‘They believe they can sue their way to victory and there’s no telling what other shenanigans Democrats will pull once polling locations are open. Republicans will be ready to make sure the polls are being run correctly, securely, and transparently as we work to deliver the free and fair election Americans deserve.’

I despise lawsuits. But I also believe in a fair fight.

The Trump campaign is ready for a fight.

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  1. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    I do not believe in a fair fight. I want unfair fights to my side’s advantage.  That is what the other side is seeking. 

     

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  2. Percival Thatcher
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    Didn’t refusing to accept the results of an election use to be a Bad Thing? It seems like I heard that once.

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  3. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    I do not believe in a fair fight. I want unfair fights to my side’s advantage. That is what the other side is seeking.

     

    For me, the key is not lying down and losing. We can disagree on what we believe in @bryangstephens, but Republicans are not even used to fighting. That’s what matters to me.

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  4. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    Percival (View Comment):

    Didn’t refusing to accept the results of an election use to be a Bad Thing? It seems like I heard that once.

    I can’t remember that far back, @percival. You must be older than I am . . . ;-)

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  5. Raxxalan Member
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    Percival (View Comment):

    Didn’t refusing to accept the results of an election use to be a Bad Thing? It seems like I heard that once.

    Only is the “right” side wins.  Otherwise you can have the FBI investigate them for 3 years and try to hound them from office.

     

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  6. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    Raxxalan (View Comment):

    Percival (View Comment):

    Didn’t refusing to accept the results of an election use to be a Bad Thing? It seems like I heard that once.

    Only is the “right” side wins. Otherwise you can have the FBI investigate them for 3 years and try to hound them from office.

     

    And if Trump wins, you can assume it will be even uglier, @raxxalan. As if riots in the streets aren’t bad enough. 

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  7. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    I do not believe in a fair fight. I want unfair fights to my side’s advantage. That is what the other side is seeking.

     

    For me, the key is not lying down and losing. We can disagree on what we believe in @bryangstephens, but Republicans are not even used to fighting. That’s what matters to me.

    Oh I agree they lay down for reasons of decorm and getting all the way up to fair would be an improvement.

    If it were up to me we would have already imprisoned Hillary Clinton and almost every high-level Democrat. if Biden wins and they take the Senate they will change the system so that no Republicans have power ever again. Republicans are always a day late and a dollar short trying to protect precious norms when the Democrats are constantly violating those norms at every turn. with full control of the presidency the house and the Senate the Republican should have packed the supreme Court and revamped the federal courts to be conservative. But they are cowards.

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  8. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    I do not believe in a fair fight. I want unfair fights to my side’s advantage. That is what the other side is seeking.

     

    For me, the key is not lying down and losing. We can disagree on what we believe in @bryangstephens, but Republicans are not even used to fighting. That’s what matters to me.

    Oh I agree they lay down for reasons of decorm and getting all the way up to fair would be an improvement.

    If it were up to me we would have already imprisoned Hillary Clinton and almost every high-level Democrat. if Biden wins and they take the Senate they will change the system so that no Republicans have power ever again. Republicans are always a day late and a dollar short trying to protect precious norms when the Democrats are constantly violating those norms at every turn. with full control of the presidency the house and the Senate the Republican should have packed the supreme Court and revamped the federal courts to be conservative. But they are cowards.

    I agree with your assessment of Democrats, Bryan. They will try to destroy our government and the Constitution. I hope the Republicans aren’t too late. I guess we’ll find out. The future looks pretty dire.

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  9. Rodin Member
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    America’s Masada Moment.

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  10. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    Rodin (View Comment):

    America’s Masada Moment.

    Well, @rodin, I hope you’re seeing the Republicans as the Romans and not the Jews who, trapped in a siege, committed mass suicide. That might work, since most Jews are on the Left, and in some respects, they are destroying themselves politically. H.m.mmm…

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  11. James Gawron Inactive
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    Susan Quinn: The Trump campaign is ready for a fight.

    Suzy,

    You’d better believe it. This ain’t no fight. This is a war!

    Regards,

    Jim

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  12. I Walton Member
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    If we lose States run by Republicans must secede or it’s likely to be all over. 

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  13. DrewInWisconsin, Man of Constant Sorrow Member
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     The Wisconsin questionnaire, a copy of which was obtained by CNN, raises questions about whether remote voting processes are trustworthy.

    They aren’t in Wisconsin. They had better be extra-prepared to fight against fraud here, because the Wisconsin Elections Board has decades of practice in fixing elections for Democrats.

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  14. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    DrewInWisconsin, Man of Consta… (View Comment):

    The Wisconsin questionnaire, a copy of which was obtained by CNN, raises questions about whether remote voting processes are trustworthy.

    They aren’t in Wisconsin. They had better be extra-prepared to fight against fraud here, because the Wisconsin Elections Board has decades of practice in fixing elections for Democrats.

    Precisely! The Reps are essentially putting the Dems on notice: you might try to rip us off, but you’re going to have to work extra hard at it!

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  15. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    One thing I don’t understand is that I believe most of the deadline requirements are set by law. Laws can be changed by a legislature. And I’m assuming that some of these states have Dem-majority legislatures. Why don’t they just change the laws instead of suing? Is there not enough time? Are they thinking they only need to change the deadlines for this election? Or are too many of the state legislatures Rep-majority? 

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  16. James Gawron Inactive
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    DrewInWisconsin, Man of Consta… (View Comment):

    The Wisconsin questionnaire, a copy of which was obtained by CNN, raises questions about whether remote voting processes are trustworthy.

    They aren’t in Wisconsin. They had better be extra-prepared to fight against fraud here, because the Wisconsin Elections Board has decades of practice in fixing elections for Democrats.

    Drew,

    I’m shocked, yes shocked! You mean that those upstanding lovers of cheese in Wisconsin actually have put the fix in for the Dems on election day. Well, hush my mouth.

    Drop a very large boulder on top of them. In a friendly way.

    Regards,

    Jim

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  17. DrewInWisconsin, Man of Constant Sorrow Member
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    James Gawron (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Man of Consta… (View Comment):

    The Wisconsin questionnaire, a copy of which was obtained by CNN, raises questions about whether remote voting processes are trustworthy.

    They aren’t in Wisconsin. They had better be extra-prepared to fight against fraud here, because the Wisconsin Elections Board has decades of practice in fixing elections for Democrats.

    Drew,

    I’m shocked, yes shocked! You mean that those upstanding lovers of cheese in Wisconsin actually have put the fix in for the Dems on election day. Well, hush my mouth.

    Wisconsin. Home of the original Deep State.

    But that makes sense, since we’re also birthplace of the Progressive Movement.

    (But also birthplace of the Republican Party!)

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  18. BastiatJunior Member
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    Susan Quinn: But the Republicans are not sitting by quietly while the Democrats run all over them

    I love seeing those words.  What a change!!  And it seems to be true.

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  19. James Gawron Inactive
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    BastiatJunior (View Comment):

    Susan Quinn: But the Republicans are not sitting by quietly while the Democrats run all over them

    I love seeing those words. What a change!! And it seems to be true.

    BJ,

    With Kevin McCarthy leading the House, Mitch leading the Senate, and the strong push at SCOTUS it’s a party again. If the hard never Trumpers just want to get off the bus altogether let’em. They vote with the Dems anyway. How you could actually knowingly allow Pelosi/Schumer/Bernie/AOC/BLM/Antifa any power and still be a conservative is a clear breaking of the law of non-contradiction.

    Rock on Republicans. Let’s roll.

    Regards,

    Jim

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  20. Fritz Coolidge
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    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    One thing I don’t understand is that I believe most of the deadline requirements are set by law. Laws can be changed by a legislature. And I’m assuming that some of these states have Dem-majority legislatures. Why don’t they just change the laws instead of suing? Is there not enough time? Are they thinking they only need to change the deadlines for this election? Or are too many of the state legislatures Rep-majority?

    Because legislators must answer to voters, whereas if they can persuade a federal judge with a lifetime appointment and sitting alone to change the rules, then they win. If not, they can appeal, etc. until they find some friendlier judges, and maintain the chaos and uncertainty. That’s why it’s called “lawfare”.

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  21. DrewInWisconsin, Man of Constant Sorrow Member
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    James Gawron (View Comment):

    BastiatJunior (View Comment):

    Susan Quinn: But the Republicans are not sitting by quietly while the Democrats run all over them

    I love seeing those words. What a change!! And it seems to be true.

    BJ,

    With Kevin McCarthy leading the House, Mitch leading the Senate, and the strong push at SCOTUS it’s a party again.

    What has also helped is getting good conservative judges in place over the last four years because of all the upcoming court challenges across the nation.

    If the hard never Trumpers just want to get off the bus altogether let’em. They vote with the Dems anyway.

    They’re already off the bus. The trouble is the media plays along with their fakery and calls them “Republicans.”

    How you could actually knowingly allow Pelosi/Schumer/Bernie/AOC/BLM/Antifa any power and still be a conservative is a clear breaking of the law of non-contradiction.

    Try asking a Never how they intend to get back in power after they’ve thrown the House, Senate, and White House to the Dems out of spite. They can’t answer. They won’t answer. Because, in fact, they’re Democrats and they don’t want Republicans back in charge.

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  22. Raxxalan Member
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    DrewInWisconsin, Man of Consta… (View Comment):

    James Gawron (View Comment):

    BastiatJunior (View Comment):

    Susan Quinn: But the Republicans are not sitting by quietly while the Democrats run all over them

    I love seeing those words. What a change!! And it seems to be true.

    BJ,

    With Kevin McCarthy leading the House, Mitch leading the Senate, and the strong push at SCOTUS it’s a party again.

    What has also helped is getting good conservative judges in place over the last four years because of all the upcoming court challenges across the nation.

    If the hard never Trumpers just want to get off the bus altogether let’em. They vote with the Dems anyway.

    They’re already off the bus. The trouble is the media plays along with their fakery and calls them “Republicans.”

    How you could actually knowingly allow Pelosi/Schumer/Bernie/AOC/BLM/Antifa any power and still be a conservative is a clear breaking of the law of non-contradiction.

    Try asking a Never how they intend to get back in power after they’ve thrown the House, Senate, and White House to the Dems out of spite. They can’t answer. They won’t answer. Because, in fact, they’re Democrats and they don’t want Republicans back in charge.

    It is worse than that.  Essentially what they are saying is that because they dislike the president on style, but not on substance.  The entire republican party must be burned to the ground and the nation must undergo a time of harrowing in the hands of a group of people who have shown time and again that:

    1. They are incapable of governing
    2. They are power mad
    3. They will use the most destructive and divisive rhetoric and policies to encourage violence against their political foes
    4. They will use the levers of government to target their political foes.   

    It is a completely indefensible argument to be a Never anymore.   If you were working to keep the Senate or retake the House, but arguing for a Biden presidency then I would consider it wrong headed and dangerous but possibly defensible.  I don’t see why the Nevers think that once the democrats take over all the levers of power they won’t do what they have threaten and make structural changes to prevent ever losing again.  

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