Radio Free Delingpole #3: The Last Word on Climate

 

There are a number of topics that can get our British correspondent James Delingpole going: Herman Cain, David Cameron, WWII, the many varieties of hummus (you’ll have to trust us on that one), but if you really want to get him revved up, ask him to talk about climate change. So when he rang us up earlier today and excitedly told us he had author and fellow climate change skeptic Donna Laframboise ready to do a podcast, we of course could not refuse him. This one is for all you climate junkies. Dig in:

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There are 18 comments.

  1. Stephen Dawson Inactive

    ‘we of course could not refuse him’

    Please, if James Delingpole rings up and tells you excitedly he has lined up Mr Towlie from South Park for an interview, do not refuse him! He’s worth hearing with or without anyone.

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    • November 30, 2011, at 3:15 AM PDT
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  2. ctlaw Coolidge

    Here’s a good trick for making leftists implode.

    When discussing the medieval warm period, throw them a bone by noting that: “it has been theorized that this was anthropogenically caused by the massive slash and burn deforestation of the American plains by Native American populations in the mid to late first millennium.” [Note, I have no data to support this as the deforestation was apparently earlier. It’s just a debate tactic.]

    The leftist will be stumped on whether to even try to refute it. On the one hand, out of anti-modern sympathy, he may jump in and assert that the driver was solar activity not the benighted first peoples. On the other hand, he may have to admit that nature cured this warming without any massive human intervention such as reforesting the plains.If you raised either of these possibilities, the leftist would have casually dismissed you as a denier.

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    • November 30, 2011, at 6:02 AM PDT
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  3. raycon and lindacon Inactive
    Valiuth: I’m listening to the podcast now, and I must register a complaint about the presentation. I have just heard it said by the guest that some of the lead authors are not PhDs. … Many scientific papers have multiple authors and the lead author is the author who has done the actual experiments, these are usually done in the course of obtaining a PhD. · Nov 29 at 8:19pm

    And, pray tell, what experiments are we talking about with “climate change”? This is an area which is composed almost entirely of theoretical constructs, also known as speculation.

    As an almost entirely mental exercise, supported by records of past climate, manipulated to conform to the theory, the lack of PhDs is of great concern.

    After all, we all know that PhDs are incorruptible men, unlike common researchers and technicians.

    Don’cha know?

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    • November 30, 2011, at 8:16 AM PDT
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  4. Valiuth Member

    I’m listening to the podcast now, and I must register a complaint about the presentation. I have just heard it said by the guest that some of the lead authors are not PhDs. If the particular reports or cited papers have a lead author without a PhD that is not uncommon in the scientific world. Many scientific papers have multiple authors and the lead author is the author who has done the actual experiments, these are usually done in the course of obtaining a PhD. Thus if one is lucky and productive they can publish without having a PhD. Thus the lead author is usually an undergraduate, or a postdoc (who has a PhD). The last author in a scientific paper is the person who runs the lab that produced the data.

    While we imagine that the old guys with professorships actually do science the truth is many have not done actual research in many years. This task is left up to their undergrads, post-docs, and techs. They simply run the lab, though they do help to interpret the data and design experiments. They also write the grants, and edit the papers, and take much of the credit.

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    • November 30, 2011, at 9:19 AM PDT
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  5. James Gawron Thatcher

    Great podcast James. I have a question for you. What is the most regressive form of taxation? A bad environmental law! With regular taxation the money still exists. The money may be misinvested and the overall economy distorted to ill effect but the money still exists and the government will spend it on something. With a bad environmental law the trillions of dollars of GNP that would have been created will now never exist. The law’s enforcement is useless as the problem it is intended to solve doesn’t exist. However, the destruction is permanent. You are right to call this a crime against humanity.

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    • November 30, 2011, at 9:46 AM PDT
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  6. James Delingpole Contributor

    @Valiuth. Straw man. I find it interesting that out of a long interview this incredibly trivial and misleading point was the one you chose to focus on. Donna Laframboise has done a brilliant piece of investigative journalism in her book The Delinquent Teenager Who Was Mistaken For The World’s Top Climate Expert, exposing in clear, measured, rigorous detail exactly why the IPCC’s reports are not to be trusted. She shows that they are often written up and edited by a) the young and inexperienced, b) activists in the pay of Greenpeace, the WWF etc or c) people chosen not because of their expertise but because of their nationality, gender, skin color. If it seems like I’m giving you a hard time it’s because people like Donna and me are made to suffer hugely by the corrupt climate science establishment for speaking the truth about the AGW scam. And every day, I have to put up with glib comments like yours, masquerading as balanced reasonableness but essentially using straw men to lure the unwary. I’m not impressed.

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    • November 30, 2011, at 11:18 AM PDT
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  7. Midget Faded Rattlesnake Contributor
    James Delingpole: @Valiuth. Straw man. I find it interesting that out of a long interview this incredibly trivial and misleading point was the one you chose to focus on.

    If I remember rightly, Valiuth is doing graduate or postgraduate research himself right now at University of Chicago. Since people tend to focus on what they can relate to personally, that may explain why this point got his attention.

    I very much doubt that Valiuth meant his comment as a straw man to lure the unwary. He doesn’t come across as the devious sort in his other comments.

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    • November 30, 2011, at 11:49 AM PDT
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  8. Israel P. Inactive

    23:09-23:34. James says “and He is right.” He=God.

    Of course He is right! That’s because He is God, silly man.

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    • November 30, 2011, at 12:10 PM PDT
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  9. James Delingpole Contributor

    @linda – then I will have seen you in the photograph Donna showed me over our pizza together last night!

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    • December 1, 2011, at 1:50 AM PDT
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  10. WojoMD Inactive

    Awesome podcast and James is brilliant. However I am glad the guests pushed back at the whole crimes against humanity thing a little bit. Stupidity is not a crime. I am tired of hearing everything we disagree with be compared to Nazi ideology. This sort of thing sounds very unconvincing to the people we are trying to win over.

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    • December 1, 2011, at 5:02 AM PDT
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  11. Bjarni Olafsson Inactive

    I heard mention of an app in the podcast – where can such an app be found?

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    • December 1, 2011, at 6:33 AM PDT
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  12. Profile Photo Member

    Hey, James

    You might be interested in the Cornwall Alliance’s production, ‘Resisting the Green Dragon’. A Christian perspective that in large part focuses on radical environmentalism and its impact on the poor. The materials/book are available to all but directed toward churches, etc. http://www.resistingthegreendragon.com/videos/http://www.cornwallalliance.org/

    It will cheer you up immensely- another battle front that will reach many uninformed- the Bible doesn’t say it, but they will remember what that proverbial road is paved with…

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    • December 1, 2011, at 8:07 AM PDT
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  13. Profile Photo Member
    WojoMD: Awesome podcast and James is brilliant. However I am glad the guests pushed back at the whole crimes against humanity thing a little bit. Stupidity is not a crime. I am tired of hearing everything we disagree with be compared to Nazi ideology. This sort of thing sounds very unconvincing to the people we are trying to win over. · Dec 1 at 4:02aT

    His answer to this was the best part, in my opinion. Conservatives are always on the defense: it has only been in the last year that people are actually calling Obama (democrats) socialists (statists, whatever) as it would too ‘extreme’. I knew it would be outed with O’s winning and believed that to be the one good result, but I did not know that so many would think it a good idea (lack of real discussion over the years?). Also, his response was the truth. Conservatives need to man up- that’s always been a problem. Reminded of the last podcast where JD said he couldn’t vote for a candidate that believed in AGW/CC and some people here thought that ‘extreme’. While next to Obamacare it’s the totalitarian dream…

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    • December 1, 2011, at 8:24 AM PDT
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    Bjarni Olafsson: I heard mention of an app in the podcast – where can such an app be found? · Dec 1 at 5:33am

    It’s called Stitcher. Available in both iTunes and the Android Marketplace.

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    • December 1, 2011, at 11:55 AM PDT
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  15. Linda Mair Inactive

    Great podcast. I was quite interested to hear Donna’s conversation with James as my husband and I were lucky enough to attend a brunch at Donna’s house the week before she left on her tour to promote her book.The guest of honour was Matt Ridley, who appeared in an interview with Peter Robinson on Uncommon Knowledge (we’ve replaced the nightly ‘news’ with archives from this show) to promote his book The Rational Optimist. Steve McIntyre was there as well. He is the statistician who gave Al Gore a major case of indigestion when he debunked the ‘hockey stick’ graph presented in Gore’s so called documentary about climate change. Donna was a columnist for The National Post in a previous life and she invited fellow ‘deniers’ Laurence Solomon, Terence Corcoran and Peter Foster. As the only climate change non-believers and as a matter of fact the only conservatives among our friends, it was such a pleasure to take part in conversations with people whose opinions are backed up with research and data rather than ‘feelings’. Reading their columns in The Post and discovering Ricochet has kept me sane this last year. So Thanks to everyone!

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    • December 1, 2011, at 12:20 PM PDT
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  16. Underground Conservative Coolidge

    I’d like to point out another aspect of the Medieval Warming Period that doesn’t get mentioned enough. As is known, Greenland was not covered in ice, i.e. it melted. Where did all the water go?

    I thought that once Greenland’s current ice melts, the oceans will rise and flood the coasts of the world. If so, then why doesn’t the historical record show this phenomenon? Shouldn’t cities like Venice have been submerged because of this?

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    • December 1, 2011, at 12:26 PM PDT
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  17. J.Voss Inactive

    When can we hope for another of these gems? Radio Free Delingpole now has a permanent place in my schedule.

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    • December 9, 2011, at 12:23 PM PDT
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  18. vjpc2517 Inactive

    I would have preferred it if James would have kept quite and let the author talk about her book. This was not much of an interview as it was James spouting his view on AGW with Donna in the background quietly agreeing.

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    • December 10, 2011, at 4:11 AM PDT
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