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Today I had to cancel a scheduled medical procedure because I would not wear a mask.

I had no interest in causing a scene in the office (or in driving an hour to the office only to be turned away) so I called in advance and told them I would not be wearing a mask. The receptionist was polite and checked with my primary care provider, who is a Nurse Practitioner and was going to perform the procedure in the office. It was a minor procedure (removing a small cyst on my head that has been there for over ten years, which has not ever grown). The receptionist reported that the NP said I didn’t have to wear a mask in the office with her while she did the procedure, but that I would have to wear a mask in the waiting room and the hallways. So I cancelled the appointment.

I told the receptionist that if the NP thought the procedure was urgent — which was not my impression from the last time I had spoken to her — that she would have to grant me a medical exception to wearing a mask. The exception being, I’m not going to wear a mask. So if she wants me to have the procedure, then it’s medically necessary for me to not wear a mask in the office.

The backdrop of this is that I had my annual checkup with her a month ago and did not wear a mask, despite a sign on the front door that stated masks were required. No one asked me to wear a mask — not any of the receptionists, the lower-level nurses, or my NP herself. During the check up, she checked my cyst, saw that it hadn’t grown, but said if I wanted that she could remove it, so I said sure.

However, since then, the governor of New Hampshire, the ironically dubbed “Live Free or Die” state, issued an emergency order for a mask mandate for any place, public or private, where more than 100 people are at the same time. I thought maybe that the doctor’s office, between staff and patients, might meet the threshold. The governor’s order includes fines for everyone involved and also authorizes law enforcement to “enter private property…including without the consent of the owners” to enforce his dictates. Gov. Chris Sununu is reportedly a Republican, and I may even have voted for him twice, but only because his opponents were insane Leftists. I’m beginning to wonder what the differences are between him and a Democrat, though.

Meanwhile there are currently 12 people hospitalized in our entire state (population 1.3 million) with symptoms of COVID-19, and we have the 5th lowest infection rate (518 per 100,000 population) of all the states. This with no state mask mandate of any kind until the aforementioned order last week. To be clear, I see lots of people wearing masks in stores. That is, lots of people wearing masks incorrectly — under their nose, pulling them down to talk, over giant beards, etc. I saw one women pull into the parking lot at the grocery store, get out, open her trunk, and grab a mask from the floor of her trunk, and put it on. Presumably she takes her trash to the dump in the trunk of her car, as well. (For those of you who are city dwellers — those of us who live in the country take our own trash to the dump.)

So anyway, that’s how I came to have an appointment today and why I called in advance instead of just showing up again. I tried to be as calm and firm as possible. The receptionist told me that the mask was to protect the other patients. I told her I wasn’t interested in debating the issue and that I don’t care about the other patients. This of course is something you’re not supposed to say, but it has the benefit of being true. I have no responsibility for the health of people that I have never met.

So I cancelled the appointment. In the end, mask theater is more important than medical procedures.

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  1. Hammer, The Member

    D.A. Venters (View Comment):

    Hammer, The (View Comment):

    D.A. Venters (View Comment):

    Hammer, The (View Comment):

    Weeping (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

     

     

    https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/cloth-face-cover-guidance.html

    Mayo Clinic (they know a thing or two about medicine, or so I’m told): https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/in-depth/coronavirus-mask/art-20485449

    Johns Hopkins: https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/coronavirus-face-masks-what-you-need-to-know

     

    You prove my point. The CDC, prior to the exertion of extreme political pressure, recommended against universal masking. It referenced actual studies that were done following the 2009 swine-flu scare, and which actually did show that universal masking was not beneficial. Prior to just few months ago, the CDC linked to these studies in its recommendation.

    Literally all of the “recent studies” that you now see (lancet, etc…) are not studies at all, but are papers that were written based on modeling. Modeling, of course, requires the input of facts and assumptions and… yes, you guessed it … those facts and assumptions are the very things that were previously studied and found lacking. So, basically “here’s a paper that says what would happen if the facts were different from what was found in many, many studies going back to 2009.” But hey, they run with it anyway, because this is a very non-scientific, social and political movement.

    The mayo clinic and john’s hopkins links you pasted above are nothing more than the sorts of pamphlets that I see pasted up, everywhere. Again, they aren’t science, they are propaganda.

    There have been no actual studies showing that masks are effective. But, if you repeat something often enough, people start to believe it… especially when it comes from otherwise respectable publications like Johns Hopkins and Mayo (maybe we need to think twice about whether they deserve that respect).

    So, I’ve got a medical/scientific question – and you’re saying I should ignore the CDC, the Mayo Clinic, Johns Hopkins, my own doctor, other doctors I know, the doctors on Ricochet, and instead go with the opinions of other folks who have read some other random articles on the internet, quoting the occasional Yale professor or doctor here and there, to be sure, but still a bit on the fringes. I’m sure you and the others railing against masks mean well and are arguing in good faith, but I’m not doing that.

    You don’t get to create your own facts.

    No, I’m listening to the CDC, numerous doctors, scientists, health professionals, doctors at Ricochet and elsewhere, doctors I’ve actually spoken with.

    But guess what? They may all be experts, but they don’t all agree. That’s what science is. It is our job to decide who presents the more compelling case.

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    • August 25, 2020, at 10:02 PM PDT
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  2. Hammer, The Member

    Ed G. (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    All I’m saying is these politicians that are forcing this under emergency powers instead of legislation need to be forced to talk about it. I want them to put in the work.

    That’s a great point. I was ok with emergency powers at the start. Not so much anymore. Kind of like authorizing military force there’s a short leash I favor after which we had better start following constitutional and lawful channels. State of emergency isn’t forever. The numbers we’ve seen, as bad as they are, are not emergency level IMO.

    Thank God for Idaho. Let’s hope these dominoes start falling.

    • #122
    • August 25, 2020, at 10:04 PM PDT
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  3. Hammer, The Member

    Weeping (View Comment):

    D.A. Venters (View Comment):
    And anyway, if you completely removed these mandates, a lot of people are still going to be worried about getting the disease and are going to act accordingly – especially if they regularly have contact with people who are particularly vulnerable, which is a huge number of people. So, a lot of this destruction and havoc you mention is going to happen no matter what – and you will have a lot more of it if the virus is rampaging.

    A lot, but not all. And as time passes and people still aren’t falling over dead in the street, fewer and fewer will worry and begin to get back to their lives. That’s the difference between mandating a behavior and letting people make their own choices – the destruction and havoc is not nearly as widespread and eventually begins to shrink when people are allowed to make their own choices.

    Right. And if people will still make these choices absent mandates, that is hardly any argument FOR the mandates. Let people make their own choices. As they feel the consequences, they will begin to weigh other factors… If you really want your neighbor to conform, convince him. 

    • #123
    • August 25, 2020, at 10:08 PM PDT
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  4. CarolJoy, Thread Hijacker Coolidge

    Ekosj (View Comment):

    Concretevol (View Comment):

    We are being constantly inundated with ads/propaganda that we should all where masks to “help each other”. My unpopular opinion is “if you don’t have the virus wearing a mask isn’t helping anyone.” Seriously…..the only time wearing a mask protects anyone else is IF YOU HAVE THE VIRUS. Still…..Biden and Co. seriously want to mandate 24hr mask wearing any time you are out of your home. Sheeze, we are a country of sheep.

    Unfortunately, it’s not immediately clear who has the virus. Asymptomatic and Pre-symptomatic spread is a real thing. There was a recent Korean study …

    What they found: “Many individuals with SARS-CoV-2 infection remained asymptomatic for a prolonged period, and viral load was similar to that in symptomatic patients,” the scientists concluded. “Therefore, isolation of infected persons should be performed regardless of symptoms.”

     

    And just who was paying this group of scientists in Korea to come out with their conclusion? And why should any thinking individual assign more importance to the Koreans and their message than to the Swedish officials and their official message?

    Personally I will go along with the Swedes on this, as their actions did not and will not incur permanent damage to their economy or society. Although the fatality rate did spike for a few brief days, everything straightened out and now they are out enjoying themselves with kids going off to school and no one being concerned about masks.

    • #124
    • August 26, 2020, at 1:24 AM PDT
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  5. CarolJoy, Thread Hijacker Coolidge

    “The most dangerous part of all this is that people are not afraid of the government that has stripped away their economy and their freedoms; instead they are afraid of their neighbor who doesn’t wear a mask!”

    “They got you with out a scratch without a fight, just like France, just like Russia, just like China.”

     

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/LTiAIppIhapK/

    • #125
    • August 26, 2020, at 1:39 AM PDT
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  6. James Gawron Thatcher
    James GawronJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Hammer, The (View Comment):
    Back then, the CDC cited to actual studies. Now they don’t. So which is the lie? Seems pretty obvious to me. Public opinion, politics, saving face… None of that existed back in March.

    Hammer,

    Trump needs to neutralize Fauci. He has waffled and left the country and this whole mess leaderless. Now total nonsense prevails. If openly firing Fauci is too difficult politically then move him out of the limelight to Tim Buk Three (the condo just past Tim Buk Two). Put Atlas or somebody with as much good common sense in the hot spot. Do it as soon as possible.

    Regards,

    Jim

    • #126
    • August 26, 2020, at 7:29 AM PDT
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  7. Weeping Member

    CarolJoy, Thread Hijacker (View Comment):
    ….. why should any thinking individual assign more importance to the Koreans and their message than to the Swedish officials and their official message?

    This, I think, is a very important point. THE “EXPERTS” DO NOT AGREE! Experts from one country contradict experts from another. Experts from one area of the country disagree with experts from another. Experts dealing with COVID patients in one way disagree with experts dealing with them in another way. Saying that we should do this or that because “the experts say we should” is a bit useless under those circumstances because there is very little agreement between them.

    • #127
    • August 26, 2020, at 10:08 AM PDT
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  8. RufusRJones Member

    Commentary: Face freedom, not face masks – Alpha News 

     

    TRUTH About Face Masks ONEPAGER 

     

     

    • #128
    • August 29, 2020, at 12:34 PM PDT
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  9. CarolJoy, Thread Hijacker Coolidge

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Commentary: Face freedom, not face masks – Alpha News

     

    TRUTH About Face Masks ONEPAGER

     

     

    Thank you for the links to real data.

    People on social media are now sharing their tales of woe relating to their faith in mask mandates having to do with health. Of course in some cases the individual did not think wearing a mask was a good idea, but to be employed they were forced into it.

    So now the public is finding out that by breathing into and out of a face diaper all day, they are in danger of contracting a nasal staph infection, or far worse, a pulmonary staph infection. This is in addition to employees who have strenuous jobs out in high temperatures, where the possibility exists for a lung to collapse.

    A 70 something friend of mine suffered a mini stroke 3 weeks ago from wearing a mask for several hours. She is left with irreversible eye damage to one of her eyes. She knew better but her 45 yr old daughter made it a condition of their spending an afternoon out shopping together.

     

    • #129
    • August 29, 2020, at 1:39 PM PDT
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  10. RufusRJones Member

    There is some new thing from dentists. I don’t know anything about it.

    • #130
    • August 29, 2020, at 1:40 PM PDT
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  11. CarolJoy, Thread Hijacker Coolidge

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    There is some new thing from dentists. I don’t know anything about it.

    What is coming out as anti-mask experiences through dental offices is that the masks promote a condition called “dry mouth.” People no longer have adequate saliva in their mouths due to the way the masks prevent normal respiration processes. The mouth dries up and then there is extreme pain experienced as though every tooth in the mouth has massive cavities.

    • #131
    • August 29, 2020, at 3:04 PM PDT
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