Contributor Post Created with Sketch. Welcome to The New Ricochet: 2.0 is Live! by Rob Long

 

Okay, here it is.While Out

And yes, there are nested comments. But only to one level. We’re going to try this. It’s an experiment. If it works at this one level, then great. If it doesn’t, we fix it. Not a big deal. We’re right wingers: we believe in fixing things that don’t work. It’s the other guys who refuse to change.

If you have problems with password setup, contact us at support@ricochet.com. We’ll get right to it. We are standing by.

Also, something new: we have tiers of membership now. For the past two years, our members (some of them, anyway) have been asking to pay more and get more. So we have three levels of membership – each with its own set of goodies. Everyone is now automatically at the Calvin Coolidge level of membership, and, if you like, you can bump yourself up, but you’re always welcome to stay at the Coolidge level. He was, after all, our most thrifty, practical president.

Please note: the Coolidge monthly rate is going up – to $5 per month – or to $39.95 annually.

The next two levels – the Mrs. Thatcher and the Ronald Reagan tiers – are a little pricier and have some great stuff that comes along. Including a tote bag with the NPR logo with a slash through it and the Ricochet logo on the other side. Coffee mugs. Exclusive podcasts. Dinners. And various other things. We hope you’ll consider joining at those levels if you’re able.

Finally, what we’re preparing for here is growth – more members, more events, more Ricochet, and more impact on the national political and cultural scene. We’re excited about the changes and truly grateful to have your support.

And please don’t freak about the nested comments. Let’s try it. We’re all members together.

All the best,

Peter & Rob

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  1. Songwriter Inactive
    SongwriterJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Mic test. Testing. 123….

    Sorry. old habit.

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    • March 17, 2014, at 8:25 PM PDT
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  2. Jason Rudert Member

    yes. yes it is.

    • #32
    • March 17, 2014, at 8:43 PM PDT
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  3. James Of England Moderator
    James Of EnglandJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    You’re wanting the Change Membership page…. links don’t seem to be working, but it’s here:

    http://ricochet.com/membership/

    Except that you only want that if you’re going to “Gold/ Thatcher”. It looks like “Change Membership is $99, just like “Join” is, but perhaps I’m being overly pessimistic.

    If you’re wanting to be “Platinum/ Reagan”, though, then you might want to log out and “join”, because that’s $399 when you “join” as a “Reagan”, but $499 if you “change” to a “platinum”.

    In short, it seems clear that that part of the system is still in beta, and I would endorse your caution. Eventually, I’d like to wire them some money (I don’t have a card any more on my dollar account, and the exchange fees are terrible on my sterling card), but my sense is that they’re going to be hard at work on other stuff for a while yet. Membership frills seem like, well, frills, not necessities.

    • #33
    • March 17, 2014, at 9:06 PM PDT
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  4. Peter Robinson Founder

    Yes, I know there are endless bugs–I myself had to try 20 times today before I finally got past the 540 Gateway error message. But you know what? If you’d seen what it looked like back in December, when Ricochet 2.0 was originally supposed to launch, you’d consider today’s site little less than a miracle.

    Prayer, fasting, and bug removal. That’s my personal program for Lent.

    • #34
    • March 17, 2014, at 9:19 PM PDT
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  5. Peter Robinson Founder

    This is a test. Does nesting run to two levels? Is Joseph right? (He usually is.)

    • #35
    • March 17, 2014, at 9:21 PM PDT
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  6. Aaron Miller Member
    Aaron MillerJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    testing…

    • #36
    • March 17, 2014, at 9:38 PM PDT
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  7. Done Contributor

    Live is perhaps a strong word for the site at this point. Undead seems closer to the mark.

    • #37
    • March 17, 2014, at 9:44 PM PDT
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  8. Albert Arthur Coolidge

    I haven’t had anything to drink, osiffer! Not in the past five minutes!

    • #38
    • March 17, 2014, at 9:46 PM PDT
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  9. Albert Arthur Coolidge

    Jimmy Carter: Surely You jest.

     No. And don’t call him Shirley.

    • #39
    • March 17, 2014, at 9:48 PM PDT
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  10. Albert Arthur Coolidge

    Joseph Stanko:
    Thanks!
    It should be on by default, though.

     That would make too much sense.

    • #40
    • March 17, 2014, at 9:50 PM PDT
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  11. Joseph Stanko Coolidge
    Joseph StankoJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    This comment is nested two levels. Note there is no REPLY link under it, because we have reached the nesting limit.

    • #41
    • March 17, 2014, at 10:18 PM PDT
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  12. Joseph Stanko Coolidge
    Joseph StankoJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    This comment is nested one level.

    • #42
    • March 17, 2014, at 10:19 PM PDT
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  13. Joseph Stanko Coolidge
    Joseph StankoJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    P.S. The numbers don’t display properly for comments at this level. I assume this should be comment #11.1.3, but all I see is:

    #… · TODAY AT 9:38 PM (42 MINUTES AGO)
     

    • #43
    • March 17, 2014, at 10:27 PM PDT
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  14. Joseph Stanko Coolidge
    Joseph StankoJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Peter, why didn’t you just explain from the start that 2.0 was a Lenten penance for us all???

    Works for me… as long as you have everything fixed by Easter! ;-)

    • #44
    • March 17, 2014, at 10:33 PM PDT
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  15. Rob Long Founder
    Rob Long

    Does anyone else notice that some of the people who were most opposed to the nested comments feature now seem to be using the nested comments feature? Like, a lot?

    • #45
    • March 18, 2014, at 12:20 AM PDT
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  16. Daniel Adam Murphy Inactive
    Daniel Adam MurphyJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Welcome back. Of course I’ll upgrade my membership to the Reagan/Platinum (even though one page says it’s $399 and another says it’s $499) but right now I’m getting error messages on that page, something about “Invalid form configuration.”

    Although I’ll need the special Rob Long Signature Edition RINO Squish tote bag since some NPR podcasts coexist happily alongside my Ricochet podcasts. (Radiolab, Bullseye with Jesse Thorn, Fresh Air if the guest interests me, and This American Life, even though I know This American Life is PRI, not NPR) Because I contain multitudes like that.

    Having been weaned on The WELL (yes, I come from the old-timey days of computing) I’ve long had a knee-jerk response against nested comments, but age has softened my view on the subject. It might be one of the many things my 19-year-old self was wrong about.

    Now I just need to decide whether to mark the arrival of Ricochet 2.0 with a less homicidal nom de keyboard…

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    • March 18, 2014, at 12:46 AM PDT
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  17. Gazpacho Grande' Coolidge

    Congratulations to Team Ricochet for pulling this off. Well done. Thanks for your patience with all of us. Even those of us who are tools.

    • #47
    • March 18, 2014, at 3:48 AM PDT
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  18. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
    Bryan G. StephensJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    For $499, I would want to know exactly what I am getting. Where will that be listed?

    • #48
    • March 18, 2014, at 4:18 AM PDT
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  19. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
    Bryan G. StephensJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Also, do we need to re-enter billing information now, or wait?

    • #49
    • March 18, 2014, at 4:19 AM PDT
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  20. Marythefifth Member
    MarythefifthJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Well, I’m bummed. My 2nd favorite thing about this site was the ability to click on MORE and stay on the page. Dagnabbit. I’d so much rather stay on one page instead of clicking back and forth and back and forth and back and forth. It will limit what I decide to read, as it does on all other sites. The site is pretty, but . . . I never thought it was broken in the first place. I am just here to read. Everything else is ruffles and filigree.

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    • March 18, 2014, at 5:03 AM PDT
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  21. American Abroad Thatcher
    American AbroadJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    I am also planning on upgrading membership but will wait a few more weeks until some of the bugs have been fixed.

    • #51
    • March 18, 2014, at 5:34 AM PDT
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  22. oleneo65 Inactive
    oleneo65Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    I’ve seem numerous 504 Gateway error screens as well.

    • #52
    • March 18, 2014, at 6:06 AM PDT
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  23. Profile Photo Member

    And the point of the change is? I thought it was ‘Progressives’ that were crippled in their view of ‘what was’ and ‘what is’ by their ‘novelty gene’?

    • #53
    • March 18, 2014, at 6:37 AM PDT
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  24. Doctor Bass Monkey Inactive

    It’s intentional so everyone can see exactly what we’re talking about.

    • #54
    • March 18, 2014, at 6:45 AM PDT
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  25. TG Thatcher

    Hmmm. In 2.0, what I see on my screen “mushes together” quotes and replies to quotes … it looks as though we are being “nudged” toward using the nested comments, because “quoting” has been made difficult to follow.

    I used to have an easy way to switch between Main Feed, Member Feed, and Converstations I’m Following … I’m not seeing anything to make that easy, now. Sigh.

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    • March 18, 2014, at 7:04 AM PDT
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  26. Gretchen Inactive

    Me too.

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    • March 18, 2014, at 7:07 AM PDT
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  27. Songwriter Inactive
    SongwriterJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Frank Soto:
    Live is perhaps a strong word for the site at this point. Undead seems closer to the mark.

     Hilarious, Frank.

    Now – to see if quoting and paragraph formatting both work from an iPad in this new version.

    Hopefully they do.

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    • March 18, 2014, at 7:07 AM PDT
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  28. TG Thatcher

    If anyone’s interested in what I’m talking about on difficulty in following quotes because of lack of visual distinction between quotes and comments *on* those quotes … see Comment #45 (and nested replies, lol) in “The conversion appears complete”

    BTW, I had no edit button for #28 above! :/

    I will trust that there will be things I like about the new platform, but right now I’m seeing what’s missing.

    • #58
    • March 18, 2014, at 7:12 AM PDT
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  29. TG Thatcher

    I don’t understand what criteria are used for the system to “decide” when I may have an “edit” button on one of my comments. logical rule would be that I may edit *any* of my comments at any time. Instead, the appearance of the “edit” button seems almost random. Perplexed and frustrated, I am.

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    • March 18, 2014, at 7:20 AM PDT
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  30. Done Contributor

    Rob Long:
    Does anyone else notice that some of the people who were most opposed to the nested comments feature now seem to be using the nested comments feature? Like, a lot?

     Exactly. As these nests push other preexisting comments further and further back, and force people to reread numerous pages of comments they already read in order to find new content, they will join our glorious anti-nesting uprising.

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    • March 18, 2014, at 7:43 AM PDT
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