Ricochet Movie Fight Club: Question 20

 


Two-time champion, Brian Watt, learned exactly how hard it is to win three in a row. Teaching that lesson (with a little help from a blind Audrey Hepburn) was J D Fitzpatrick, who earned the right to ask: What movie has the best duel? All movies should be pre-CGI. For this question, a duel is defined as a single moment of combat between two characters, with a clear resolution. Duels can be short or long, but they should display unity of time, place, and action, meaning that the contest is restricted to a particular moment in the film, not drawn out over its course.
The Rules:

  • Post your answer as a comment. Make it clear that this is your official answer, one per member.
  • Defend your answer in the comments and fight it out with other Ricochet member answers for the rest of the week.
  • Whoever gets the most likes on their official answer comment (and only that comment) by Friday night wins the fight.
  • The winner gets the honor of posting the next question on Saturday.
  • In the case of a tie, the member who posted the question will decide the winner.

Notes:

  • Only movies will qualify (no TV shows) however films that air on television (BBC films, a stand-alone mini-series) will qualify.
  • Your answer can be as off-the-wall or controversial as you’d like. It will be up to you to defend it and win people to your side.
  • Fight it out.

Movie Fight Club Questions by Week:

  1. What is the best film portrayal of a book character? Winner: Charlotte with 18 likes for Alan Rickman’s portrayal of Professor Severus Snape in the Harry Potter movies.
  2. What is the best motion picture comedy of the 21st century? Winner: split decision. In an exemplary display of genuine sportsmanship, Randy Webster conceded the fight to Marjorie Reynolds’ pick Team America: World Police.
  3. What film provides the most evocative use of location? Winner: Taras with 21 likes for Lawrence of Arabia. Wasn’t even close.
  4. What is the best film that utilizes or is inspired by a work of William Shakespeare? Winner: Dr. Bastiat with five likes for The Lion King, a film inspired by Hamlet
  5. Which movie has the best surprise ending, or unexpected plot twist? Winner: Repmodad with 18 likes for The Sixth Sense
  6. What pre-1970s black-and-white movie would be most enjoyed by a modern 18- to 25-year-old audience? Winner: E J Hill with 9 likes for a Casablanca. (He didn’t exactly designate it his official answer, and most of the likes may have been for the modern Casablanca trailer rather than for it as an answer to the question, but nobody seemed to dispute it on those grounds, so that’s how the cookie crumbles.)
  7. What movie did you go to based on the trailer, only to have felt cheated? (i.e., the trailer was 10x better than the movie?) Winner: Back to back wins by E J Hill with 9 likes for Something to Talk About.
  8. Name the worst movie portrayal of your profession (where applicable.) Winner: LC with 8 likes for Denise Richards’ Dr. Christmas Jones in The World is Not Enough.
  9. What is the worst movie that claims to be based or inspired by a true story? Winner: Tex929rr with 16 likes for the, “…terrible acting, and countless deviations from history,” in Pearl Harbor.
  10. What is your favorite little known movie? Winner: A last-minute rally for Tremors made the difference as Songwriter took the week 10 win! 
  11. What is the best movie that you never want to watch again? Winner: Hitler Charlotte with 15 likes for Schindler’s List. Sorry, Richard Oshea but Jesus won the real fight. 

    Week 11.5 Exhibition Match (as a make-up of sorts, since Songwriter didn’t get the week 11 question submitted in time)
    Name the best movie theme song ever? No winner declared but I’m pretty sure it was I.M. Fine with “Moon River.”
  12. Name the best animated feature-length movie of all time. Winner: I.M. Fine with 10 likes for Pinocchio, and justice for I.M. Fine prevailed.
  13. What is the worst acting performance in an otherwise good film? Winner: In one of the most brutal fights we’ve seen yet Repmodad fended off a furious 12th-round onslaught by Gary McVey to give Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves the win with 20 likes.
  14. What is the quintessential American movie? Winner: Miffed White Male pulled off the comeback with 20 likes for The Right Stuff.  There was a two-way tie at 19 for second place as well. 
  15. What’s the most entertaining movie set during WWII? Winner: Arahant clearly won with Casablanca’s walloping 30 likes despite the withering onslaught by Sisyphus on the final day.
  16. What is the best movie love story? Winner: Songwriter with 20 likes for The Princess Bride with 20 likes. Up managed to make a strong showing and Dr. Bastiat is still conducting recounts trying to “find” some uncounted votes. 
  17. What’s the best’ buddy’ movie? Winner: Brian Watt wins with 12 likes for The Man Who Would be King.
  18. What is the worst movie (not a made-for-TV movie) ever made? Brian Watt joins E.J. Hill as the only other back-to-back winner with 16 likes for Barbarella. Brian will get another crack at it by choosing the week 19 question. Can he make it three?
  19. What is the most frightening non-bloody film you’ve ever seen? The winner: J D Fitzpatrick with Wait Until Dark, starring the lovely Audrey Hepburn getting terrorized over a doll, sort of.
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  1. Housebroken Thatcher
    Housebroken
    @Chuckles

    Anybody not remember this tune? Do not forsake me o my darlin’

    • #31
  2. Aaron Miller Member
    Aaron Miller
    @AaronMiller

    I almost wrote something about “the renowned fight choreographer John Yoo”, then remembered it’s Yuen Woo Ping. Anyone named “whooping” must know a thing or two about kicking butt.

    • #32
  3. Addiction Is A Choice Member
    Addiction Is A Choice
    @AddictionIsAChoice

    J. D. Fitzpatrick (View Comment):
    And if anyone can explain to me how to embed YouTube videos, I’d appreciate it. 

    1. Copy the Youtube URL (address)
    2. Paste it into your comment
    3. Right-click shade/select the link you just pasted
    4. Click the broken chain link icon (it’s next to the chain icon)
    5. Remove the YouTube link from inside the box
    6. Post your comment (if the video does not appear, “Edit” your comment and click “Update”)
    • #33
  4. Housebroken Thatcher
    Housebroken
    @Chuckles

    philo (View Comment):

    Housebroken (View Comment):

    philo (View Comment):

    The Princess Bride….best duel in three acts. Official answer.

    “As you wish.”

    Oh, c’mon: It’s not even serious!

    High Noon, on the other hand, is totally serious. And Coopers being denied help by the community is evocative to me of Portland, Oregon.

    You doubt the seriousness of true love? Shame.

    P.S. Where exactly is the requirement for seriousness stated?

    The question wasn’t for a movie about true love.  And where’s the requirement for seriousness stated? It’s written in perfectly clear text right between the lines.

    • #34
  5. Arahant Member
    Arahant
    @Arahant

    J. D. Fitzpatrick (View Comment):

    So far, the thread is giving me everything I was hoping for. Keep the nominees coming!

    And if anyone can explain to me how to embed YouTube videos, I’d appreciate it.

    All you do is copy the URL and paste it on a line of its own. Make sure it’s not the short URL (youtu.be), but the whole one (youtube.com).

    • #35
  6. Charlotte Member
    Charlotte
    @Charlotte

    DonG (skeptic) (View Comment):

    If dueling with muscle cars is allowed, I’ll nominate Bullett. That jazzy score is great. The pacing is more like a sex scene than a fight scene.

    Ohhhh, car chases. I hope this can be its own category.

    • #36
  7. Tex929rr Coolidge
    Tex929rr
    @Tex929rr

    Richard Fulmer (View Comment):
    likes

    Dammit.  Beat me to it.

    • #37
  8. Tex929rr Coolidge
    Tex929rr
    @Tex929rr

    Addiction Is A Choice (View Comment):

    Official Answer: Lee Marvin and Ernest Borgnine in

    Emperor of the North

    Very under appreciated film.   When Ernest Borgnine played a bad guy he could be truly terrifying with that toothy grin and sideways glance.

    • #38
  9. Randy Webster Member
    Randy Webster
    @RandyWebster

    The duel between Percy Blakeney and Chauvelin at the end of The Scarlet Pimpernel.

    • #39
  10. Arahant Member
    Arahant
    @Arahant

    Addiction Is A Choice (View Comment):

    • Right-click shade/select the link you just pasted
    • Click the broken chain link icon (it’s next to the chain icon)
    • Remove the YouTube link from inside the box

    I never have to do those steps.

    • #40
  11. philo Member
    philo
    @philo

    Sisyphus (View Comment): The final duel, The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance, official answer.

    As a side note here, several years ago I went looking for the original source for this and ordered the book of short stories by Dorothy M. Johnson from Half Price Books. The other three stories – A Man Called Horse, The Hanging Tree, and Lost Sister – are all worth the time to read along with this nominee. 

    Similarly, I’m still looking for a good  copy of The Rebel Outlaw: Josey Wales.

    • #41
  12. Aaron Miller Member
    Aaron Miller
    @AaronMiller

    Addiction Is A Choice (View Comment):

    J. D. Fitzpatrick (View Comment):
    And if anyone can explain to me how to embed YouTube videos, I’d appreciate it.

    1. Copy the Youtube URL (address)
    2. Paste it into your comment
    3. Right-click shade/select the link you just pasted
    4. Click the broken chain link icon (it’s next to the chain icon)
    5. Remove the YouTube link from inside the box
    6. Post your comment (if the video does not appear, “Edit” your comment and click “Update”)

    On Android, I do it this way: 

    1. Copy the “Share Link” URL from YouTube

    2. Paste it in a new tab. 

    3. Go to the browser settings (3 vertical dots in top-right corner) and select the “Desktop Site” option. 

    4. Copy the translated URL (from something like “you.tube” to “youtube”). 

    5. Paste it into your comment here. 

    Either way, it should be simpler.

    • #42
  13. J. D. Fitzpatrick Member
    J. D. Fitzpatrick
    @JDFitzpatrick

    philo (View Comment):

    Ed G. (View Comment):

    philo (View Comment):

    The Princess Bride….best duel in three acts. Official answer.

    “As you wish.”

    Philo picked the obvious winner here. There are at least five duels in that movie alone which could qualify for the win.

    By the stipulations in the post, I don’t believe I can claim them all. In fact, my actual nominee is probably going to get flagged on the play. See my edits above.

    The Princess Bride definitely has to be in here. We’ll work out the details of how to make it work in the comments. 

    • #43
  14. KirkianWanderer Coolidge
    KirkianWanderer
    @KirkianWanderer

    Official Answer

    The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp (1943). The duel in question happens in the first quarter of the film, and sets up the rest. Lt. Clive Wynne-Candy manages, when he travels to Germany during the Boer War, to offend the entire German Imperial Army, and in order to keep peace between the United Kingdom and the German Empire, diplomatic representatives of the two agree to a duel  to preserve the honor of all involved. The elaborately named Theo Kretschmar-Schuldorff, actually an opponent of the practice of dueling in Germany, is chosen as Candy’s opposite, and the two fight.

    Swordplay between the two officers is well and interestingly shot, as is the elaborate procedure which proceeds and is involved in a duel, but what makes it really special is how it impacts the world of the film. Clive and Theo become close friends while recuperating from their wounds, and the next 40 plus years of European history that they experience are shaped by that relationship. While soldiers fighting on the opposing sides (in some cases), they are always concerned for their friend, and go to great lengths in order to protect each other.

    While the romantic relationship between Clive and the various iterations of Edith that occur through the film is clever and moving, I think it is his friendship with Theo that makes it a compelling, and truly great, film. And it all starts with a duel.

    • #44
  15. KirkianWanderer Coolidge
    KirkianWanderer
    @KirkianWanderer

    KirkianWanderer (View Comment):

    Official Answer

    The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp (1943). The duel in question happens in the first quarter of the film, and sets up the rest. Lt. Clive Wynne-Candy manages, when he travels to Germany during the Boer War, to offend the entire German Imperial Army, and in order to keep peace between the United Kingdom and the German Empire, diplomatic representatives of the two agree to a duel in order to preserve the honor of all involved. The elaborately named Theo Kretschmar-Schuldorff, actually an opponent of the practice of dueling in Germany, is chosen as Candy’s opponent, and the two fight.

    Swordplay between the two officers is well and interestingly shot, as is the elaborate procedure which proceeds and is involved in a duel, but what makes it really special is how it impacts the world of the film. Clive and Theo become close friends while recuperating from their wounds, and the next 40 plus years of European history that they experience are shaped by that relationship. While soldiers fighting on the opposing sides (in some cases), they are always concerned for their opposite, and go to great lengths in order to protect each other.

    While the romantic relationship between Clive and the various iterations of Edith that occur through the film is clever and moving, I think it is his friendship with Theo that makes it a compelling, and truly great, film. And it all starts with a duel.

     

    • #45
  16. Boss Mongo Member
    Boss Mongo
    @BossMongo

    Vince Guerra (View Comment):

    Eustace C. Scrubb (View Comment):

    Really only one answer for those who have seen the film Rob Roy – the final duel between Rob Roy (Liam Neeson) and Cunningham (Tim Roth). Official answer.

    Just watch the linked duel and give me your vote.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERmM5l2ceoY

    Completely agree.

    One contestant came to duel.  The other came to kill a man.  The distinction was decisive.

    • #46
  17. Arahant Member
    Arahant
    @Arahant

    Richard Fulmer (View Comment):

    Without a doubt, the duel between Ross Martin and Tony Curtis in The Great Race. Both men were skilled fencers; Curtis was widely considered the best in Hollywood.

    Of course that hearkens back to The Prisoner of Zenda.

    • #47
  18. Boss Mongo Member
    Boss Mongo
    @BossMongo

    Charlotte (View Comment):
    My official nomination is this fight from The Bourne Supremacy. Great use of household objects, terrific fight choreography, doesn’t go on so long that it stops being believable. And the gas-toaster-magazine trick at the end is just badass.

    Cinematic portrayal of Rule #1:

    “My mind is my weapon.  Everything else is just a tool.”

    • #48
  19. philo Member
    philo
    @philo

    J. D. Fitzpatrick (View Comment):

    philo (View Comment):

    Ed G. (View Comment):

    philo (View Comment):

    The Princess Bride….best duel in three acts. Official answer.

    “As you wish.”

    Philo picked the obvious winner here. There are at least five duels in that movie alone which could qualify for the win.

    By the stipulations in the post, I don’t believe I can claim them all. In fact, my actual nominee is probably going to get flagged on the play. See my edits above.

    The Princess Bride definitely has to be in here. We’ll work out the details of how to make it work in the comments.

    Well, again back to my poor reading comprehension (I was in a hurry to claim the clear winner first), I see that I just had to claim the movie that the best dual was in. I didn’t have to identify the best specific dual. (What movie has the best duel?) And for those insisting on seriousness, I will argue that the duel that ends with “I want my father back, you son of a bitch!” is just that.

    • #49
  20. KirkianWanderer Coolidge
    KirkianWanderer
    @KirkianWanderer

    Sisyphus (View Comment):

    The final duel, The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance, official answer.

    That was one of the first classic American films that I watched with my Taiwanese friend at university (I had seen it once before) and we both loved it and had so much fun watching. I don’t think she had ever seen a John Wayne film, so it was a great intro to him and old Westerns.

    • #50
  21. Seawriter Contributor
    Seawriter
    @Seawriter

    J. D. Fitzpatrick (View Comment):
    And if anyone can explain to me how to embed YouTube videos, I’d appreciate it. 

    Right click when your mouse is over the video. A menu appears. Click on Copy vldeo URL.  Paste the copied URL into your comment or post. 

    That’s it. (Note the URL is shorter than a webpage URL.)

    • #51
  22. KirkianWanderer Coolidge
    KirkianWanderer
    @KirkianWanderer

    KirkianWanderer (View Comment):

    KirkianWanderer (View Comment):

    Official Answer

    The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp (1943). The duel in question happens in the first quarter of the film, and sets up the rest. Lt. Clive Wynne-Candy manages, when he travels to Germany during the Boer War, to offend the entire German Imperial Army, and in order to keep peace between the United Kingdom and the German Empire, diplomatic representatives of the two agree to a duel in order to preserve the honor of all involved. The elaborately named Theo Kretschmar-Schuldorff, actually an opponent of the practice of dueling in Germany, is chosen as Candy’s opponent, and the two fight.

    Swordplay between the two officers is well and interestingly shot, as is the elaborate procedure which proceeds and is involved in a duel, but what makes it really special is how it impacts the world of the film. Clive and Theo become close friends while recuperating from their wounds, and the next 40 plus years of European history that they experience are shaped by that relationship. While soldiers fighting on the opposing sides (in some cases), they are always concerned for their opposite, and go to great lengths in order to protect each other.

    While the romantic relationship between Clive and the various iterations of Edith that occur through the film is clever and moving, I think it is his friendship with Theo that makes it a compelling, and truly great, film. And it all starts with a duel.

     

    • #52
  23. philo Member
    philo
    @philo

    Arahant (View Comment):

    Richard Fulmer (View Comment):

    Without a doubt, the duel between Ross Martin and Tony Curtis in The Great Race. Both men were skilled fencers; Curtis was widely considered the best in Hollywood.

    Of course that hearkens back to The Prisoner of Zenda.

    Another wonderful book. I never saw the movie. (For that matter, I never technically read the book but it was a good “listen.”)

    • #53
  24. Boss Mongo Member
    Boss Mongo
    @BossMongo

    Per @philo and others: The Princess Bride.  Specifically the fight between Inigo and Westley.  Each of the different styles/schools the duelists discuss is actually a no-kidding sword/fencing style. (Source: By The Sword (to learn about each style; Princess Bride isn’t mentioned in the book))

     

     

    • #54
  25. The Scarecrow Thatcher
    The Scarecrow
    @TheScarecrow

    Kill Bill. There were of course many great swordfights in these movies, but I always thought this one was the most beautiful.

    • #55
  26. Columbo Member
    Columbo
    @Columbo

    Gemini Man – Will Smith fights his younger clone.

    Official answer

    • #56
  27. Boss Mongo Member
    Boss Mongo
    @BossMongo

    Runner up nominee (one of two): The final fight scene (sorta) in The Raid Redemption, which may well be the best martial arts movie ever made

     

     

    • #57
  28. Charlotte Member
    Charlotte
    @Charlotte

    Of course this doesn’t meet any of the criteria but here’s one of the best fight scenes of the past ten years. Henry Cavill reloading is just about the coolest thing I’ve ever seen.

    • #58
  29. J. D. Fitzpatrick Member
    J. D. Fitzpatrick
    @JDFitzpatrick

    Funny that “Ricochet Movie Fight Club” has never had a thread on movie fights. I suppose Ricochetti never want to state the obvious. :) 

    • #59
  30. The Cynthonian Member
    The Cynthonian
    @TheCynthonian

    Tex929rr (View Comment):

    Richard Fulmer (View Comment):
    likes

    Dammit. Beat me to it.

    Me too.  But I voted for it!!

    • #60
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