Recommended by Ricochet Members Created with Sketch. A Brilliant Statement by Klavan

 

On a recent podcast, Andrew Klavan made what I think is a brilliant statement:

“Normal people are the roadblock to Paradise.”

The context was in how the left always promotes a Utopia if only they are allowed to run things as they see fit. It makes perfect sense. Ordinary people vote for candidates who oppose the left’s agenda once in office. Can’t have that. Ordinary people want to go to church, to own guns, and to have their children educated to love and respect our country. Bad idea. Ordinary people know the difference between men and women. No, people are what “gender” they say they are.

It’s no surprise the left, the Democrats, and the MSM (but I repeat myself, as Klavan would say) want to do away with elections altogether. Mail-in voting is a start. They set as many mail-in elections up for failure so they can argue all elections should be online. Great. They have an army of pajama-boy hackers in their parents’ basements ready to use their computers to change election outcomes and “make them right.”

Scary times . . .

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  1. RightAngles Member

    And they’re already all over the media trying to pave the way to cry “Voter Fraud” when Trump wins. I saw one of them on the news last night talking about how some new guy in charge at the Post Office is “Trump’s crony,” so they can later claim he somehow tampered with the mail-in votes which the Dems are the ones pushing for.

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    • August 14, 2020, at 2:35 PM PDT
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  2. Boss Mongo Member

    Klavan is brilliant as usual. I haven’t heard that podcast yet, as I usually bundle up Klavan and listen to the week’s worth on Sundays. I’m kinda taking a knee on the whole Church Of Rome thing until we get a Pope who’s…what’s the word?… Oh, yeah: Catholic.

    So, Klavan is brilliant.

    RA is brilliant, and has removed the mask from her avatar.

    All is right with the world.

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    • August 14, 2020, at 2:49 PM PDT
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  3. EODmom Coolidge

    Mail-in or online are both shortcuts to “national” or “popular” vote. Vote anyhow and anywhere you want because it’s democracy. 

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    • August 14, 2020, at 2:50 PM PDT
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  4. RightAngles Member

    Boss Mongo (View Comment):

    RA is brilliant, and has removed the mask from her avatar.

    All is right with the world.

    I always do what you say because you’re bigger than me.

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    • August 14, 2020, at 3:12 PM PDT
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  5. Muleskinner, Weasel Wrangler Member

    Stad: “Normal people are the roadblock to Paradise.”

    Not to quibble much, but I’d change “paradise” to “utopia.” But he is far more talented than I.

    But Stad nails it.

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    • August 14, 2020, at 3:40 PM PDT
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  6. Jon1979 Lincoln

    If the polls are off again this November, and especially if they skewed even more towards Biden in the final releases than they were for Hillary in 2016, I fully expect someone on the op-ed page of The New York Times or the WaPo to angrily pen a piece in the days that follow, entitled “Is it Time to Eliminate the Secret Ballot?” If all the polls are saying the same thing, they have to be right, and the only reason the actual results didn’t match them was because Trump and his minions cheated.

    But there’s no way to know whose votes they diabolically switched from Biden as long as there’s a secret ballot in place. So signed ballots from now on … and let’s make all ballots be mail ones, in order to widen the number of people voting and increase accuracy (supportive papers and online sites can even publish the name of every voter and how they voted, so they can check and see if their ballot was accurate — what could be more helpful for democracy than that?)

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    • August 14, 2020, at 4:18 PM PDT
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  7. Vance Richards Member
    Vance RichardsJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Yeah, if you could have humans without human nature then maybe some of this communism stuff could work. But if you want to live in the real world then just stop it with that nutty stuff.

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    • August 14, 2020, at 4:27 PM PDT
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  8. Boss Mongo Member

    RightAngles (View Comment):

    Boss Mongo (View Comment):

    RA is brilliant, and has removed the mask from her avatar.

    All is right with the world.

    I always do what you say because you’re bigger than me.

    Wull, and I”m always right.

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    • August 14, 2020, at 5:08 PM PDT
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  9. Jim McConnell Member
    Jim McConnellJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    EODmom (View Comment):

    Mail-in or online are both shortcuts to “national” or “popular” vote. Vote anyhow and anywhere you want because it’s democracy.

    And as many times!

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    • August 14, 2020, at 5:36 PM PDT
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  10. Jules PA Member

    Jon1979 (View Comment):
    But there’s no way to know whose votes they diabolically switch from Biden as long as there’s a secret ballot in place.

    Actually, I’m worried antifa and BLM will begin to attack the communities where the map shows Trump won. No matter how the election ends. 

    Personal ballots are secret, but the summative results are not. 

    This already happens with positive funding and support for places that vote the desired way…

    Hard to believe that info wont be used as punishment for the deplorables contesting 2+2=5.

     

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    • August 14, 2020, at 7:51 PM PDT
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  11. Eeyore Member
    EeyoreJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    This mail-in ballot stuff is going to be one of the biggest ClusterFs in the electoral history of the United States.

    • Every postal worker is is member of the American Postal Workers Union. The APWU just came out for Biden. Obviously, no Union activists would even consider doing anything in their daily work which might affect the election outcome.
    • The Post Office has said that there exists the possibility of election mail irregularities in every state.
    • NJ is going to mail a ballot to every registered voter. Somebody here on R> said they had received a ballot at their parents’ house where they hadn’t lived for nine years. Elsewhere someone said they had received a ballot addressed to their dead cat.
    • My favorite – CBS New York did a ballot experiment by setting up a mailbox in Philadelphia and sending ballots to that mailbox in lots of different ways. 3% of the ballots never arrived. When they went to pick up the ballots, they were told there was nothing for them. They talked to a supervisor, who found them, and told them “They put them somewhere else.” Don’t know if it will embed, but here is that report.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBqzKjTTYyY

    We’re so screwed!

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    • August 14, 2020, at 10:34 PM PDT
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  12. Ray Gunner Coolidge

    Stad:

    On a recent podcast, Andrew Klavan made what I think is a brilliant statement:

    “Normal people are the roadblock to Paradise.”

    That one caught my attention, too Stad. Klavan’s is the one podcast I never miss. And he has been especially sharp lately on this newly muscular anti-American revolution roiling our streets. 

    Here’s is what Klavan’s insight got me thinking: Recall that Madison said that “If angels were to govern men, neither external nor internal controls on government would be necessary.” Well, here’s the thing about progressives: They actually think they are Madison’s angels. That is, they see themselves as Good, Incorruptible, and on the Right Side of History. And they see Utopia right around the corner. That is why the “external and internal controls” on their power (e.g., due process rights; property rights; separation of powers; federalism; electoral college; judicial review) are exactly what they have been aching to get rid of for 100 years. They are “controls” that deprive them of the power they crave. And “normal people are the roadblock to Paradise,” because normal people hold those G-d given natural rights that even these wanna-be Madisonian angels cannot abrogate.

    And they hate us for it. 

     

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    • August 14, 2020, at 11:24 PM PDT
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  13. Stad Thatcher
    Stad

    Boss Mongo (View Comment):
    RA is brilliant, and has removed the mask from her avatar.

    OMG! She’s putting us in danger! Don’t you know the virus is spread through conservative posts?

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    • August 15, 2020, at 6:50 AM PDT
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  14. Stad Thatcher
    Stad

    RightAngles (View Comment):

    Boss Mongo (View Comment):

    RA is brilliant, and has removed the mask from her avatar.

    All is right with the world.

    I always do what you say because you’re bigger than me.

    He’s bigger than most people . . .

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    • August 15, 2020, at 6:50 AM PDT
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  15. Stad Thatcher
    Stad

    Muleskinner, Weasel Wrangler (View Comment):

    Stad: “Normal people are the roadblock to Paradise.”

    Not to quibble much, but I’d change “paradise” to “utopia.” But he is far more talented than I.

    But Stad nails it.

    No, Klavan is the brilliant one. He has a podcast and I don’t (too lazy) . . .

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    • August 15, 2020, at 6:51 AM PDT
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  16. Stad Thatcher
    Stad

    Eeyore (View Comment):
    CBS New York did a ballot experiment by setting up a mailbox in Philadelphia and sending ballots to that mailbox in lots of different ways. 3% of the ballots never arrived.

    This is enough to swing a tight election. Dems typically win close elections because they have the means to “discover” uncounted votes. Here are their mantras for 2020:

    Trump or other Republican ahead: Hold off the results until every vote is counted.

    Trump or other Republican behind: It’s over. The outcome isn’t going to change.

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    • August 15, 2020, at 6:55 AM PDT
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  17. Stad Thatcher
    Stad

    Ray Gunner (View Comment):
    Here’s is what Klavan’s insight got me thinking: Recall that Madison said that “If angels were to govern men, neither external nor internal controls on government would be necessary.” Well, here’s the thing about progressives: They actually think they are Madison’s angels.

    Brilliant observation!

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    • August 15, 2020, at 6:56 AM PDT
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  18. Jon1979 Lincoln

    Jules PA (View Comment):

    Jon1979 (View Comment):
    But there’s no way to know whose votes they diabolically switch from Biden as long as there’s a secret ballot in place.

    Actually, I’m worried antifa and BLM will begin to attack the communities where the map shows Trump won. No matter how the election ends.

    Personal ballots are secret, but the summative results are not.

    This already happens with positive funding and support for places that vote the desired way…

    Hard to believe that info wont be used as punishment for the deplorables contesting 2+2=5.

     

    The incidents in suburban Seattle and Chicago recently showed the problem for #BLM or Antifa when they get outside of areas with supportive politicians, in that the local residents are ready to fight back to defend their property, and the radicals don’t have any safe houses around to run and hide in after their do their dirty work. That can change, of course, if you get enough suburban voters acting and voting like their woke urban counterparts, or if you can get a governor who also is willing to support the protestors over the homeowners. But for the moment, it’s why #BLMers and especially Antifa stick to displaying their worst behavior in areas where they think they can get away with it, and don’t risk going to places where they’re going to get hit back.

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    • August 15, 2020, at 6:59 AM PDT
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  19. Stad Thatcher
    Stad

    Jon1979 (View Comment):

    Jules PA (View Comment):

    Jon1979 (View Comment):
    But there’s no way to know whose votes they diabolically switch from Biden as long as there’s a secret ballot in place.

    Actually, I’m worried antifa and BLM will begin to attack the communities where the map shows Trump won. No matter how the election ends.

    Personal ballots are secret, but the summative results are not.

    This already happens with positive funding and support for places that vote the desired way…

    Hard to believe that info wont be used as punishment for the deplorables contesting 2+2=5.

     

    The incidents in suburban Seattle and Chicago recently showed the problem for #BLM or Antifa when they get outside of areas with supportive politicians, in that the local residents are ready to fight back to defend their property, and the radicals don’t have any safe houses around to run and hide in after their do their dirty work. That can change, of course, if you get enough suburban voters acting and voting like their woke urban counterparts, or if you can get a governor who also is willing to support the protestors over the homeowners. But for the moment, it’s why #BLMers and especially Antifa stick to displaying their worst behavior in areas where they think they can get away with it, and don’t risk going to places where they’re going to get hit back.

    IIRC, one neighborhood somewhere (Minneapolis?) said they would no longer call the police even if someone stole their car. The result was predictable . . .

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    • August 15, 2020, at 7:08 AM PDT
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  20. Jon1979 Lincoln

    Stad (View Comment):

    Jon1979 (View Comment):

    Jules PA (View Comment):

    Jon1979 (View Comment):
    But there’s no way to know whose votes they diabolically switch from Biden as long as there’s a secret ballot in place.

    Actually, I’m worried antifa and BLM will begin to attack the communities where the map shows Trump won. No matter how the election ends.

    Personal ballots are secret, but the summative results are not.

    This already happens with positive funding and support for places that vote the desired way…

    Hard to believe that info wont be used as punishment for the deplorables contesting 2+2=5.

     

    The incidents in suburban Seattle and Chicago recently showed the problem for #BLM or Antifa when they get outside of areas with supportive politicians, in that the local residents are ready to fight back to defend their property, and the radicals don’t have any safe houses around to run and hide in after their do their dirty work. That can change, of course, if you get enough suburban voters acting and voting like their woke urban counterparts, or if you can get a governor who also is willing to support the protestors over the homeowners. But for the moment, it’s why #BLMers and especially Antifa stick to displaying their worst behavior in areas where they think they can get away with it, and don’t risk going to places where they’re going to get hit back.

    IIRC, one neighborhood somewhere (Minneapolis?) said they would no longer call the police even if someone stole their car. The result was predictable . . .

    Blue states tend to be the ones where suburban voters cast ballots like their urban counterparts, while in Red states, suburban voters’ ballots are more like people in the rural areas. It’s going to be interesting to see what the suburban voters in Minneapolis and St. Paul do this fall, after getting a look at the type of quality of life the guilty white urban liberals want everyone to put up with.

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    • August 15, 2020, at 7:13 AM PDT
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  21. Buckpasser Member
    BuckpasserJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    The “normal” people had better vote however they do it.

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    • August 15, 2020, at 7:43 AM PDT
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  22. Henry Castaigne Member

    I want to take away the vote form various groups of people. 

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    • August 15, 2020, at 9:26 AM PDT
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  23. Boss Mongo Member

    Henry Castaigne (View Comment):

    I want to take away the vote form various groups of people.

    We know.

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    • August 15, 2020, at 12:50 PM PDT
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  24. Cow Girl Thatcher

    I’m feeling very, very concerned about this fall. Voting used to be so reliable, or at least it seemed like it was reliable. I mean, it was almost sacred —  the validity of our American election system was represented as infallible practically. Maybe that is because I was young and naive. Apparently in Chicago, and New Jersey and various areas in the South, voting has always been something that was manipulated.Now that I’m old(er) and more jaded, or perhaps more informed, I feel concern that this will be the reality in November:

    Stad (View Comment):

    Trump or other Republican ahead: Hold off the results until every vote is counted.

    Trump or other Republican behind: It’s over. The outcome isn’t going to change.

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    • August 15, 2020, at 1:04 PM PDT
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  25. Henry Castaigne Member

    Boss Mongo (View Comment):

    Henry Castaigne (View Comment):

    I want to take away the vote form various groups of people.

    We know.

    I know you know. I want to inform other people.

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    • August 15, 2020, at 1:28 PM PDT
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  26. Stad Thatcher
    Stad

    Henry Castaigne (View Comment):

    I want to take away the vote form various groups of people.

    I do to – the unregistered, the illegals, and the dead . . .

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    • August 15, 2020, at 1:29 PM PDT
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  27. Steve C. Member

    Stad (View Comment):

    Henry Castaigne (View Comment):

    I want to take away the vote form various groups of people.

    I do to – the unregistered, the illegals, and the dead . . .

    Haven’t you heard of the democracy of the dead?

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    • August 15, 2020, at 1:45 PM PDT
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  28. Henry Castaigne Member

    Steve C. (View Comment):

    Stad (View Comment):

    Henry Castaigne (View Comment):

    I want to take away the vote form various groups of people.

    I do to – the unregistered, the illegals, and the dead . . .

    Haven’t you heard of the democracy of the dead?

    But wasn’t it the dead people who didn’t want the dead to vote in the first place? Is this a catch-22? It’s like giving women the vote when most women weren’t all that interested in voting.

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    • August 15, 2020, at 3:04 PM PDT
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  29. Steve C. Member

    Henry Castaigne (View Comment):

    Steve C. (View Comment):

    Stad (View Comment):

    Henry Castaigne (View Comment):

    I want to take away the vote form various groups of people.

    I do to – the unregistered, the illegals, and the dead . . .

    Haven’t you heard of the democracy of the dead?

    But wasn’t it the dead people who didn’t want the dead to vote in the first place? Is this a catch-22? It’s like giving women the vote when most women weren’t all that interested in voting.

    It’s more like, not wanting to belong to any club that would have me as a member.

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    • August 15, 2020, at 3:48 PM PDT
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  30. MISTER BITCOIN Member

    RightAngles (View Comment):

    And they’re already all over the media trying to pave the way to cry “Voter Fraud” when Trump wins. I saw one of them on the news last night talking about how some new guy in charge at the Post Office is “Trump’s crony,” so they can later claim he somehow tampered with the mail-in votes which the Dems are the ones pushing for.

    Why is USPS so popular on Twitter today?

    ‘What we’ve seen in a way that is unique to modern political history is a President who is explicit in trying to discourage people from voting,’ Obama said. ‘What we’ve never seen before is a President say, ‘I’m going to try to actively kneecap the postal service to encourage voting and I will be explicit about the reason I’m doing it.’’ 

    Since when does voting depend on the postal service?

    It’s very easy to request absentee ballot from the county.

    I’m still registered as a Democrat lol.

    I also applied to be an election volunteer — I need to see first hand how messy and disorganized democracy in Los Angeles is.

     

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    • August 15, 2020, at 9:28 PM PDT
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