Recommended by Ricochet Members Created with Sketch. The Federal Judiciary Has Well and Truly Disgraced Itself in the Persecution of Gen. Flynn

 

It is unfathomable to me, as one who spent most of his adult life dedicated to the Rule of Law and the Court system, how these “judges” can, in good conscience, abide what they are doing to a man who put himself in danger to defend his country.

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  1. colleenb Member
    colleenb Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    The only thing I can say Jim George is that the court may have been unwilling to rule on something that hasn’t been ruled on which was the problem the Powerline guy had with this whole mess. Until judge sullivan (I will not capitalize his title or his name) rules, can he be ruled against if you see what I mean. I think it was a long shot by Sidney Powell but glad she tried it. Meanwhile I will never, and I mean never, talk to a member of the FBI or any other law enforcement person or a member of a prosecuting attorney’s office without recording everything and a lawyer present. I don’t care of I just witnessed a poor pedestrian being run over right in front of my eyes. Cannot trust any of them.

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    • July 30, 2020, at 10:00 AM PDT
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  2. ctlaw Coolidge

    A semi-procedural way to hand a victory to the left by saying Flynn should first have filed a motion with Sullivan*.

    This gets into some court rules issues with which I am not familiar.

    Both Flynn and the DoJ argued Sullivan lacked standing to request rehearing. So even if Flynn had an alternative to mandamus, Sullivan can’t challenge. Thus, action on Sullivan’s rehearing request would be void. But, the court could be acting on its own initiative rather than on Sullivan’s request. Yet, the Order mentions the petition.

    The enlarged panel is dominated by Obama appointees.

    * I took that position as part of a bias challenge.

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    • July 30, 2020, at 10:07 AM PDT
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  3. Full Size Tabby Member

    Jim George: It is unfathomable to me, as one who spent most of his adult life dedicated to the Rule of Law and the Court system, how these “Judges” can, in good conscience, abide what they are doing to a man who put himself in danger to defend his country. 

    Even if Mr. Flynn has no redeeming qualities, there is a fundamental problem with the idea that a judge such as Judge Sullivan can appear to take on the additional role of prosecutor. 

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    • July 30, 2020, at 10:18 AM PDT
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  4. Gumby Mark (R-Meth Lab of Demo… Thatcher

    Another example of Trumplaw.

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    • July 30, 2020, at 10:23 AM PDT
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  5. Maguffin Member

    colleenb (View Comment):

    The only thing I can say Jim George is that the court may have been unwilling to rule on something that hasn’t been ruled on which was the problem the Powerline guy had with this whole mess. Until judge sullivan (I will not capitalize his title or his name) rules, can he be ruled against if you see what I mean. I think it was a long shot by Sidney Powell but glad she tried it. Meanwhile I will never, and I mean never, talk to a member of the FBI or any other law enforcement person or a member of a prosecuting attorney’s office without recording everything and a lawyer present. I don’t care of I just witnessed a poor pedestrian being run over right in front of my eyes. Cannot trust any of them.

    I watched this video on not saying anything except through an attorney recently – don’t know that I like the implications of everything said (if I witnessed something I want to tell about it to help catch the perpetrators), but I’m coming around to approaching it this way.

    And apologies if I stole the idea of the video from a comment or post on Ricochet instead of linking. I get most of my best info from here, so it’s quite possible.

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    • July 30, 2020, at 10:57 AM PDT
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  6. DonG (skeptic) Coolidge

    It’s not over until the fat lady sings. It might also the case that some future prosecutor decides to go after Flynn or his kid. There is no place to hide, when the government decides to ruin your life.

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    • July 30, 2020, at 11:00 AM PDT
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  7. Gumby Mark (R-Meth Lab of Demo… Thatcher

    DonG (skeptic) (View Comment):

    It’s not over until the fat lady sings. It might also the case that some future prosecutor decides to go after Flynn or his kid. There is no place to hide, when the government decides to ruin your life.

    “If there is one thing a defense lawyer knows, it’s that the government can get you if it wants to. Any government. Federal, state or local. Law-abiding private citizens do not believe this until some government sets out to get them, and they have to pay good money to a man like me to fight for them, but their disbelief is like unto the very dew of May; it evaporates fast. Along with their bank balances, cheerfulness, and the order of their lives.” – George V Higgins in Defending Billy Ryan

     

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    • July 30, 2020, at 11:07 AM PDT
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  8. Barfly Member

    Gumby Mark (R-Meth Lab of Demo… (View Comment):

    Another example of Trumplaw.

    I assume that “Trumplaw” means anything that cuts against Trump is legal?

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    • July 30, 2020, at 11:21 AM PDT
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  9. colleenb Member
    colleenb Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Maguffin (View Comment):

    colleenb (View Comment):

    The only thing I can say Jim George is that the court may have been unwilling to rule on something that hasn’t been ruled on which was the problem the Powerline guy had with this whole mess. Until judge sullivan (I will not capitalize his title or his name) rules, can he be ruled against if you see what I mean. I think it was a long shot by Sidney Powell but glad she tried it. Meanwhile I will never, and I mean never, talk to a member of the FBI or any other law enforcement person or a member of a prosecuting attorney’s office without recording everything and a lawyer present. I don’t care of I just witnessed a poor pedestrian being run over right in front of my eyes. Cannot trust any of them.

    I watched this video on not saying anything except through an attorney recently – don’t know that I like the implications of everything said (if I witnessed something I want to tell about it to help catch the perpetrators), but I’m coming around to approaching it this way.

    And apologies if I stole the idea of the video from a comment or post on Ricochet instead of linking. I get most of my best info from here, so it’s quite possible.

    I know. My mother’s family was in law enforcement of various kinds for years. I hate thinking this way. And I hate that I might let a criminal get away. Depending on the circumstances I might say something, but I live in a county that has elected a “Soros” prosecutor so I am very wary.

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    • July 30, 2020, at 11:34 AM PDT
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  10. Gumby Mark (R-Meth Lab of Demo… Thatcher

    Barfly (View Comment):

    Gumby Mark (R-Meth Lab of Demo… (View Comment):

    Another example of Trumplaw.

    I assume that “Trumplaw” means anything that cuts against Trump is legal?

    Yes. It is a new legal standard applied only to cases that having some connection with Trump. The standard is “Trump loses”.

    And I now expect Trump will pardon Flynn. Good.

     

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    • July 30, 2020, at 11:43 AM PDT
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  11. Steve C. Member

    Apparently, the DC Circuit Court is committed to the principle of “doing something to save their phony baloney jobs”. 

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    • July 30, 2020, at 12:05 PM PDT
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  12. Ontheleftcoast Member

    They’re calling a time out until the Democrats figure out the best way to run the coverup from here on:

    . . . in order to avoid the appearance of a politicized investigation of senior Democrats in retaliation for what was in fact a politicized investigation of a Republican administration, neither Obama nor Biden are being investigated. But that does not mean that they are shielded if someone wants to save themselves by pointing further up the chain of command. And Rice left a paper trail that implicates herself, Obama, and Biden.

    Nominating Rice as Biden’s VP would virtually ensure her immunity, protecting her from investigation or prosecution during the campaign. In February, Barr issued a memo stating that no investigation of a presidential or vice presidential candidate can be undertaken without his written approval. Because it is nearly inconceivable that Barr would expose himself to this type of scrutiny or risk compromising the election, Rice would be safe. Crucially, it would also cut off the investigation at the rung below her, thereby insulating Obama and Biden.

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    • July 30, 2020, at 5:34 PM PDT
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  13. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
    Bryan G. Stephens Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    The Democrats are all evil all the time

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    • July 30, 2020, at 5:39 PM PDT
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  14. Rodin Member

    Gumby Mark (R-Meth Lab of Demo… (View Comment):

    Barfly (View Comment):

    Gumby Mark (R-Meth Lab of Demo… (View Comment):

    Another example of Trumplaw.

    I assume that “Trumplaw” means anything that cuts against Trump is legal?

    Yes. It is a new legal standard applied only to cases that having some connection with Trump. The standard is “Trump loses”.

    And I now expect Trump will pardon Flynn. Good.

     

    No, that is what Sullivan is trying to force with this farce. That would give him a victory. So if Flynn can take some more of this it would be better to get the Judge’s attorney on the record as to what exactly Judge Sullivan thinks he is going to consider regarding the motion. That is key to whether the Court of Appeals rules that the writ is premature per the cited Cheney decisions. The basic argument is that there is nothing that the Judge can properly consider to make this premature. If the Court agrees that it is premature, then the circus moves on. Regardless of the election outcome President Trump has until January 20 to issue a pardon. It is important for the legal system to do the right thing and not have the President intervene, if possible.

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    • July 30, 2020, at 7:24 PM PDT
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  15. Gumby Mark (R-Meth Lab of Demo… Thatcher

    Rodin (View Comment):

    Gumby Mark (R-Meth Lab of Demo… (View Comment):

    Barfly (View Comment):

    Gumby Mark (R-Meth Lab of Demo… (View Comment):

    Another example of Trumplaw.

    I assume that “Trumplaw” means anything that cuts against Trump is legal?

    Yes. It is a new legal standard applied only to cases that having some connection with Trump. The standard is “Trump loses”.

    And I now expect Trump will pardon Flynn. Good.

     

    No, that is what Sullivan is trying to force with this farce. That would give him a victory. So if Flynn can take some more of this it would be better to get the Judge’s attorney on the record as to what exactly Judge Sullivan thinks he is going to consider regarding the motion. That is key to whether the Court of Appeals rules that the writ is premature per the cited Cheney decisions. The basic argument is that there is nothing that the Judge can properly consider to make this premature. If the Court agrees that it is premature, then the circus moves on. Regardless of the election outcome President Trump has until January 20 to issue a pardon. It is important for the legal system to do the right thing and not have the President intervene, if possible.

    I agree. What I meant is that if this is not resolved by Jan 20, if Trump loses, he can issue the pardon.

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    • July 30, 2020, at 8:15 PM PDT
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  16. Old Bathos Moderator

    These unprincipled hacks have decided that they can prevent a formal end to the case in which it was found that corrupt hacks from the Obama administration set up a political enemy and then other partisan hacks on the Mueller hit-squad violated every rule of disclosure and professionalism in order to break the defendant.

    In essence, these political judges want to force Trump to pardon Flynn so that they can then say the process worked but that Trump made inappropriate use of the pardon power and deflect from the monstrous abuses of the FBI and Mueller.

    A judge with integrity would be all over the Brady violations and would be making referrals for sanctions. Partisanship is now conscience for a hell of a lot of people would know better.

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    • July 31, 2020, at 6:54 AM PDT
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