If You Support Biden, This Is What You Support Part II

 

I was again sparked by an article in American Greatness about the madness of the moment, and how that is 100% supported by Biden and the Democrats. This was first titled the “Madness of America” which I preferred, but the editors have changed it. I am not making any argument her for confidence in anyone’s victory November, but again, stark relief about what Biden and the Democrats stand for, and how voting for them and supporting them getting into power is supporting un-American ideals. I can understand rank-in-file Democrats voting for the same old, same old. What I cannot understand is how people who claim to be conservatives can vote for Biden.

So, here are some more Points, that if touyou Support Democrats, you support this. Electing more of them will encourage these things.

Democratic leaders around the country have been allowing violent radicals to run wild in the streets, set fires, smash private property, and beat people up. Democratic mayors have allied explicitly with the radicals, echoing the insane calls to “defund the police” and rounding up troublemakers only to invite them to accuse cops of misconduct.

If you are for Biden, you are for letting the Mobs run wild

In Seattle, the mayor refused to resist a takeover of several downtown blocks until the perpetrators marched on her own house. (Her government is now forcing white city employees to take training sessions in which they must “affirm their complicity” in racism and work on “undoing their whiteness.”)

And

Major corporations, terrified of the Marxist rabble, are succumbing to their demands, issuing obsequious declarations of support, forcing employees to read books about their white privilege, and firing those who don’t grovel sufficiently.

If you are for Biden, you are for forced re-education based on race

In St. Louis, a couple who brandished guns to defend their home from a marauding mob has been targeted for harassment by local prosecutors.

If you are for Biden, you are for prosecuting people for using their Right to Arms, when no one got hurt, to protect their home.

When Penn State issued a statement saying that it welcomed students of all kinds, including conservatives, the backlash was so tremendous that it withdrew the statement.

If you are for Biden, you do not believe that conservatives should be welcome in higher education.

 At Princeton, more than 200 faculty members have demanded that the administration address “systematic racism” by adopting over 40 sweeping initiatives that would (among much else) ensure ideological purity in hiring and in academic writings, give extra sabbaticals to black professors, and establish a campus anti-racism center.

If you are for Biden, you are for set asides based on race.

If you are for Biden, you are for cancel culture being in control of research

Even the U.S. Army has gotten into the act, sending an email to all personnel saying that the word “colorblind” and the statements “all lives matter” and “Make America Great Again” are evidence of “white supremacy.” (To be sure, the Army backtracked when called on this move by a congressman.)

If you are for Biden, you are for injecting racial politics into the US Military.

Now for the lecture Part:

If anything is crystal clear at present, it’s that all this leftist mayhem, encouraged by the Democratic Party and its adherents, represents an existential threat to America as we know it, and that, whatever one may think of Donald Trump’s personality or policies, it would be sheer madness to vote for anyone other than him in November.

And yet every day I turn to Facebook to find friends and relatives around the country whose lives, it seems, are fully devoted to the effort to unseat the president. These are people who have comfortable homes, stable lives, beloved children, prized careers—people who have no interest in seeing the system overthrown, the Republic toppled. And yet instead of being unsettled by the unprecedented nationwide disorder promoted by the Democrats, they’re gunning for Trump.

It’s as if they don’t even know what’s going on.

Here is the thing: If someone reads Ricochet, and are politically active, he or she knows what is going on. Knows the things sited are actually happening. It is not like you are blinded by the mainstream media. How, on God’s Green Earth, can any politically connected conservative  support the election of Biden and the Democrats who are encouraging such un-American things?

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  1. Franco Member
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    CACrabtree (View Comment):
    Trump won’t run against this agenda. Trump can’t. Can anyone even imagine Trump understanding this list much less articulating to the American people why these promises are bad and what damage they will do? Can anyone even imagine Trump focusing on these issues, speaking and tweeting articulately and rationally about them for the next four months? Can anyone even imagine Trump trying to make the election about these incredibly destructive promises that Biden has made? Can anyone even imagine Trump trying to make the election about anything other than himself?

    This is Crabtree quoting Fulmer, but he agrees so:

    I guess you’re not caught up. What channels do you watch???

    Trump yesterday:

    Today, Joe Biden gave a speech in which he said that the core of his economic agenda is a hard-left crusade against American energy.  He wants to kill American energy.  He wants to reenter the unfair, one-sided Paris Climate Accord — which will destroy us — at the expense of many other nations who benefit.  It was actually drawn, in my opinion, to take advantage of the United States, just like so many other deals that are done to take advantage of the fools running the United States.  But this would do nothing for the environment, but would cripple American industry while greatly helping China.

    He wants to impose massive energy taxes and job-crushing mandates to eliminate carbon from the United States economy — let him define the word “carbon,” because he won’t be able to — obliterating American oil, clean coal, natural gas, and the natural energy resources that supply — supply countless American jobs.

    Joe Biden put AOC, a young woman — not talented, in many ways — in charge of his energy plan and the environment.  Essentially, her and Bernie Sanders — who ran a lot of times for President, never made it.  Good base, but that’s about it.  In other words, he wants to impose the Green New Deal on our country.

    When I first saw the Green New Deal, I thought it was a joke.  I said, “This will never go anywhere.”  Now they’re trying to impose it.  This will destroy our country and make us noncompetitive with other countries.

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  2. Franco Member
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    Trump continued:

    Last week, Joe Biden released his unity platform, developed with socialist Bernie Sanders, describing what he would do if elected President.  The Biden-Sanders agenda is — agenda is the most extreme platform of any major party nominee, by far, in American history.  I think it’s worse than, actually, Bernie’s platform; it’s gone so far right.  And he’s doing that because he’s begging for their vote.

    But one of the things I just asked my people to do is just draw up for me, just quickly, some of the things that we’ve been hearing about over the last couple of weeks.  And these are actual key elements of the Biden-Sanders unity platform:

    Abolish immigration detention.  No more detention.  You come in here illegally, no more detention.

    Stop all deportation.  So if we get a MS-13 gang member, which we’ve taken out of our country by the thousands — brought them back to Honduras, Guatemala — can’t do that anymore — El Salvador.  Can’t do that anymore.  Stop all deportations.  So in other words, we’ll take all of these people — many of whom are in prison for rape, murder, lots of other things.

    End prosecution of illegal border crossers.  Oh, okay, they come in illegally, and we have to stop the whole process.

    Support the deadly sanctuary cities where many of these people are protected better than the American citizen is protected.

    Incentivize illegal-alien child smuggling.  Give it an incentive.  Because if you look at what they’re saying, that’s exactly what they do: incentivize illegal-alien child smuggling.  They’re incentivized by what this plan calls for.

    Expand asylum for all new illegal aliens.  How about that one?  All new illegal aliens, expand asylum.

    Cancel all asylum cooperation agreements in the Western Hemisphere.  Well, we have agreements with Honduras, Guatemala, with El Salvador.  We have great agreements, where, when Biden and Obama used to bring killers out, they would say, “Don’t bring them back to our country.  We don’t want them.”  “Well, we have to.”  We don’t want them; they wouldn’t take them.  Now, with us, they take them.  Someday I’ll tell you why.  Someday I’ll tell you why.  But they take them, and they take them very gladly.

     

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  3. Franco Member
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    End all travel bans, including from jihadist regions.  So now we have travel bans — a lot of you said I didn’t get the travel ban, and you were wrong.  We got the travel ban.  We lost in the Ninth Circuit, we lost again in the Ninth Circuit, and then we won in the Supreme Court.  We have a very strong travel ban.  And we don’t want people that are going to come in and blow up our cities, do things.  And, frankly, with the — with the liberal Democrats running the cities that we do have, where they do have problems, maybe they wouldn’t mind.  But I would mind, and the people of this country mind.

    So, listen to this: End all travel bans.  He’s talking about the ban that I won that everybody said I didn’t win.  They said I didn’t win because in the lower court we lost.  And we lost in the Appellate Division, and then we won in the Supreme Court.  So they said, “He lost.”  And they’re right, at the lower level.  But, in the meantime, we won in the Supreme Court.  So it’s in effect, but they didn’t say that.  They said, “He lost,” which again, is fake news, but that’s the way they do it.

    So, end all travel bans, including from jihadist regions.  They specified that.

    Grant mass amnesty.  Everybody gets amnesty.  Mass amnesty.  Think of that.  And this says: Create a roadmap to citizenship for massive, massive numbers.

    And we’re not talking about DACA, because I’m going to take care of DACA much better than the Democrats did.  The Democrats had their chance, and they blew it.  But we’re going to take care of DACA because I’m going to be doing, in the not-too-distant future, pretty soon I’m going to be signing a new immigration action — very, very big merit-based immigration action that, based on the DACA decision, I’ll be able to do.

    Vastly expand low-skilled immigration to the United States.  So they want a lot of people come in with low skills; I like merit.  Think of that: Vastly expand low-skilled immigration to the United States.  These are the things that are in the plan.  This is Biden.  Biden has gone radical left.

    Increase refugee admissions by 700 percent.  Huh.  That’s a lot: by 700 percent.  Nobody has ever heard of such a thing.  Increase refugee admissions by 700 percent.

    Abolish law enforcement as we know it.  I think the police do an incredible job in this country.  And you’re going to have a rogue, terrible cop, on occasion, like you do in any industry, in any business, in any profession.  But I think they do an incredible job.  Abolish law enforcement as we know it.

     

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  4. Franco Member
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    End cash bail.  No bail.  Just, we let you right out.  Look at what’s happened to New York: Crime is up, shootings are up at numbers that nobody’s ever seen before.  Look at Chicago.  What a disaster.  And we’re waiting for them to call us because we’re all set to go.  We have the FBI.  We have Homeland Security.  We have everybody ready to go.  We have the National Guard.  They’re all ready to go.  End cash bail, releasing dangerous criminals onto our streets.  Cash bail.  New York just did that.  Other places have done it.  They haven’t turned out to good.

    Abolish completely the death penalty.  And I know there’s a lot of debate on the death penalty, and there has been for a long time, but sometimes you use the death penalty, depending on the crime.  You know what happened today with regard to the death penalty.

    Appoint social justice prosecutors in order to free violent criminals.  So, they want to appoint social justice prosecutors to free violent criminals.

    End mandatory minimums.  And that’s by empowering judges to determine appropriate sentences by fighting to repeal mandatory minimums at the federal level and give states incentives to repeal their mandatory minimums.

    We could go on for days.  Incentivize prison closure.  So they want to close our prisons.  They now want to abolish —
    they want to abolish our police departments.  They want to abolish our prisons, I guess.  Incentivize jail and prison closures as populations decline.

    Rejoin Paris Climate Accord, and seek an even higher level of restrictions.  Oh, I didn’t notice that.  Oh, I see.  So they want to rejoin the Paris Climate Accord, and they want to seek an even higher level of restraint.  In other words, make it worse than it was.

    Mandate net-zero carbon emissions for homes, offices, and all new buildings by 2030.  That basically means no windows, no nothing.  It’s very hard to do.  I tell people when they want to go into some of these buildings, “How are your eyes?  Because they won’t be good in five years.  And I hope you don’t mind cold office space in the winter and warm office space in the summer, because your air conditioning is not the same as the good old days.”

    Mandate zero carbon emissions from power plants by 2035.  Zero.  We’re talking about zero.  Nothing can go in the air.

    Mandate net-zero carbon emissions by 2050.  And I believe he’s changing that.  He’s bringing it down.  He wants no petroleum product.  He wants no oil or gas.  I don’t think Texas is going to do too well.  They’re going to get rid of about 7 million jobs if you go by the Biden plan.  I don’t think that Oklahoma, North Dakota, Pennsylvania are going to be too happy with that — and many other states — Ohio.

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  5. Franco Member
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    He keeps going:

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-president-trump-press-conference-071420/

     

    So I guess you guys, Crabtree and Richard are going to read the remarks and retract your uninformed comments?

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  7. Bob Thompson Member
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    brad2971 (View Comment):

    Two caveats to that list: 1. The Gig economy has been asking for regulation for some time now due to its abuses. 2. People would LOVE the feds to mandate local school districts to get off their duffs and raise teacher salaries, especially since their state legislatures often refuse to do so.

     

    No. These need to stay on the list of totally undesirables. The abuse comes from the IRS and probably numerous state agencies and no supportive action to aid teachers should be taken by the federal government until the power of the teachers’ union is neutralized.

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  8. CACrabtree Coolidge
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    Franco (View Comment):

    CACrabtree (View Comment):
    Trump won’t run against this agenda. Trump can’t. Can anyone even imagine Trump understanding this list much less articulating to the American people why these promises are bad and what damage they will do? Can anyone even imagine Trump focusing on these issues, speaking and tweeting articulately and rationally about them for the next four months? Can anyone even imagine Trump trying to make the election about these incredibly destructive promises that Biden has made? Can anyone even imagine Trump trying to make the election about anything other than himself?

    This is Crabtree quoting Fulmer, but he agrees so:

    I guess you’re not caught up. What channels do you watch???

    Trump yesterday:

    Today, Joe Biden gave a speech in which he said that the core of his economic agenda is a hard-left crusade against American energy. He wants to kill American energy. He wants to reenter the unfair, one-sided Paris Climate Accord — which will destroy us — at the expense of many other nations who benefit. It was actually drawn, in my opinion, to take advantage of the United States, just like so many other deals that are done to take advantage of the fools running the United States. But this would do nothing for the environment, but would cripple American industry while greatly helping China.

    He wants to impose massive energy taxes and job-crushing mandates to eliminate carbon from the United States economy — let him define the word “carbon,” because he won’t be able to — obliterating American oil, clean coal, natural gas, and the natural energy resources that supply — supply countless American jobs.

    Joe Biden put AOC, a young woman — not talented, in many ways — in charge of his energy plan and the environment. Essentially, her and Bernie Sanders — who ran a lot of times for President, never made it. Good base, but that’s about it. In other words, he wants to impose the Green New Deal on our country.

    When I first saw the Green New Deal, I thought it was a joke. I said, “This will never go anywhere.” Now they’re trying to impose it. This will destroy our country and make us noncompetitive with other countries.

    Where do you get off with this remark?  I wasn’t “quoting” anyone.  My two sentence reply to Fulmer was that I agreed with his comment that “Trump is losing because of Trump.”

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    Franco (View Comment):

    He keeps going:

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-president-trump-press-conference-071420/

     

    So I guess you guys, Crabtree and Richard are going to read the remarks and retract your uninformed comments?

    “Uninformed”?  Yeah, right.  After the two inexplicable supreme court decisions that were written by Gorsuch and Roberts, Trump got on to his trusty Twitter account to lament: “Do you get the impression that the Supreme Court doesn’t like me?”.

    He could have said any number of things to express his displeasure.  Instead, it was all about ME.  

    In November I’ll be dragging my belly across two football fields of broken glass if necessary to vote against Joe Biden.  However, I wouldn’t walk across the street to vote for Donald Trump.  

    And, no, I won’t be retracting anything.  Try reading for a change.

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  10. Franco Member
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    CACrabtree (View Comment):

    Franco (View Comment):

    CACrabtree (View Comment):
    Trump won’t run against this agenda. Trump can’t. Can anyone even imagine Trump understanding this list much less articulating to the American people why these promises are bad and what damage they will do? Can anyone even imagine Trump focusing on these issues, speaking and tweeting articulately and rationally about them for the next four months? Can anyone even imagine Trump trying to make the election about these incredibly destructive promises that Biden has made? Can anyone even imagine Trump trying to make the election about anything other than himself?

    This is Crabtree quoting Fulmer, but he agrees so:

    I guess you’re not caught up. What channels do you watch???

    Trump yesterday:

    Today, Joe Biden gave a speech in which he said that the core of his economic agenda is a hard-left crusade against American energy. He wants to kill American energy. He wants to reenter the unfair, one-sided Paris Climate Accord — which will destroy us — at the expense of many other nations who benefit. It was actually drawn, in my opinion, to take advantage of the United States, just like so many other deals that are done to take advantage of the fools running the United States. But this would do nothing for the environment, but would cripple American industry while greatly helping China.

    He wants to impose massive energy taxes and job-crushing mandates to eliminate carbon from the United States economy — let him define the word “carbon,” because he won’t be able to — obliterating American oil, clean coal, natural gas, and the natural energy resources that supply — supply countless American jobs.

    Joe Biden put AOC, a young woman — not talented, in many ways — in charge of his energy plan and the environment. Essentially, her and Bernie Sanders — who ran a lot of times for President, never made it. Good base, but that’s about it. In other words, he wants to impose the Green New Deal on our country.

    When I first saw the Green New Deal, I thought it was a joke. I said, “This will never go anywhere.” Now they’re trying to impose it. This will destroy our country and make us noncompetitive with other countries.

    Where do you get off with this remark? I wasn’t “quoting” anyone. My two sentence reply to Fulmer was that I agreed with his comment that “Trump is losing because of Trump.”

    I may have gotten it backwards, sorry about that.

    I was trying to give proper attribution.i selected a part of a reply and usually the person who replies to a quote is cited. No intention to cause trouble, other than to disagree with both of you.

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  11. Franco Member
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    CACrabtree (View Comment):

    Uninformed”? Yeah, right. After the two inexplicable supreme court decisions that were written by Gorsuch and Roberts, Trump got on to his trusty Twitter account to lament: “Do you get the impression that the Supreme Court doesn’t like me?”.

    He could have said any number of things to express his displeasure. Instead, it was all about ME.

    In November I’ll be dragging my belly across two football fields of broken glass if necessary to vote against Joe Biden. However, I wouldn’t walk across the street to vote for Donald Trump.

    And, no, I won’t be retracting anything. Try reading for a change.

    Uninformed about what he said yesterday.

    Richard was gracious when I took the time to post long passages from his speech and tell you guys that Trump indeed did respond in detail about Biden’s plans which you claimed ( at least completely agreed with the comment) that Trump was unable to respond. Maybe a little TDS happening. But at least you’re informed enough to vote for Trump for self-interest.

     

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    Jim McConnell (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    I look much more at what the candidates say, and not what some of their supporters say. I will grant you that some of Biden’s supporters are unhinged. By the same token, some of Trump’s supporters are unhinged.

    The calculus is Biden’s strengths & Trump’s weaknesses vs. Trump’s strengths & Biden’s weaknesses. My judgment is that the first is stronger than the second. Other people of good faith can come to a different conclusion, and most of my fellow Ricochetti have come to the second conclusion. But Ricochet is a website of the Center-Right, not a website of the Trump Right.

    So, Gary, your alternative to Trump vs. Biden-Pelosi-Schumer, fits where in that Center-Right spectrum? The choice in November is Trump vs. Biden-Pelosi-Schumer, not Trump vs. some imaginary perfect candidate.

    I will say this again.  The election is a binary one.  It’s between Donald Trump and AOC/OMAR/BLM/Antifa.  Vote accordingly. 

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  13. Gary Robbins Member
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    Buckpasser (View Comment):

    Jim McConnell (View Comment):

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    I look much more at what the candidates say, and not what some of their supporters say. I will grant you that some of Biden’s supporters are unhinged. By the same token, some of Trump’s supporters are unhinged.

    The calculus is Biden’s strengths & Trump’s weaknesses vs. Trump’s strengths & Biden’s weaknesses. My judgment is that the first is stronger than the second. Other people of good faith can come to a different conclusion, and most of my fellow Ricochetti have come to the second conclusion. But Ricochet is a website of the Center-Right, not a website of the Trump Right.

    So, Gary, your alternative to Trump vs. Biden-Pelosi-Schumer, fits where in that Center-Right spectrum? The choice in November is Trump vs. Biden-Pelosi-Schumer, not Trump vs. some imaginary perfect candidate.

    I will say this again. The election is a binary one. It’s between Donald Trump and AOC/OMAR/BLM/Antifa. Vote accordingly.

    If I thought that that was the choice, I would vote for Trump.  I just don’t.  

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  14. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    I look much more at what the candidates say, and not what some of their supporters say. I will grant you that some of Biden’s supporters are unhinged. By the same token, some of Trump’s supporters are unhinged.

    The calculus is Biden’s strengths & Trump’s weaknesses vs. Trump’s strengths & Biden’s weaknesses. My judgment is that the first is stronger than the second. Other people of good faith can come to a different conclusion, and most of my fellow Ricochetti have come to the second conclusion. But Ricochet is a website of the Center-Right, not a website of the Trump Right.

    That really, in no way answers any of the above. 

    This is what Democrats are for. They are the people who will be in Biden’s camp. 

    For someone who makes post after post supporting a far leftist like Biden, it is amazing you talk about “Center-Right” at all. 

    You, sir, are not “Center-Right”. You are a leftist. You support all the leftists causes above, because you support, your own words sir, you support Biden winning, and the Democrats controlling Congress. 

     

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  15. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    I look much more at what the candidates say, and not what some of their supporters say. I will grant you that some of Biden’s supporters are unhinged. By the same token, some of Trump’s supporters are unhinged.

    The calculus is Biden’s strengths & Trump’s weaknesses vs. Trump’s strengths & Biden’s weaknesses. My judgment is that the first is stronger than the second. Other people of good faith can come to a different conclusion, and most of my fellow Ricochetti have come to the second conclusion. But Ricochet is a website of the Center-Right, not a website of the Trump Right.So, Gary, your alternative to Trump vs. Biden-Pelosi-Schumer, fits where in that Center-Right spectrum? The choice in November is Trump vs. Biden-Pelosi-Schumer, not Trump vs. some imaginary perfect candidate.I will say this again. The election is a binary one. It’s between Donald Trump and AOC/OMAR/BLM/Antifa. Vote accordingly.If I thought that that was the choice, I would vote for Trump. I just don’t.[Redacted. Personal attack. Violation of CC].

    I hope to God that you don’t get to find out how wrong you are by getting what you want.

     

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  16. Weeping Inactive
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    I look much more at what the candidates say, and not what some of their supporters say. I will grant you that some of Biden’s supporters are unhinged. By the same token, some of Trump’s supporters are unhinged.

    The calculus is Biden’s strengths & Trump’s weaknesses vs. Trump’s strengths & Biden’s weaknesses. My judgment is that the first is stronger than the second. Other people of good faith can come to a different conclusion, and most of my fellow Ricochetti have come to the second conclusion. But Ricochet is a website of the Center-Right, not a website of the Trump Right.

    So, Gary, your alternative to Trump vs. Biden-Pelosi-Schumer, fits where in that Center-Right spectrum? The choice in November is Trump vs. Biden-Pelosi-Schumer, not Trump vs. some imaginary perfect candidate.

    I will say this again. The election is a binary one. It’s between Donald Trump and AOC/OMAR/BLM/Antifa. Vote accordingly.

    If I thought that that was the choice, I would vote for Trump. I just don’t.

    Why do you think that isn’t the choice, Gary? That’s a serious question because to me, it seems plain as day that that is the choice. And yet, you don’t see it that way. What are you seeing that I apparently am not? 

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  17. CACrabtree Coolidge
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    Franco (View Comment):

    CACrabtree (View Comment):

    Uninformed”? Yeah, right. After the two inexplicable supreme court decisions that were written by Gorsuch and Roberts, Trump got on to his trusty Twitter account to lament: “Do you get the impression that the Supreme Court doesn’t like me?”.

    He could have said any number of things to express his displeasure. Instead, it was all about ME.

    In November I’ll be dragging my belly across two football fields of broken glass if necessary to vote against Joe Biden. However, I wouldn’t walk across the street to vote for Donald Trump.

    And, no, I won’t be retracting anything. Try reading for a change.

    Uninformed about what he said yesterday.

    Richard was gracious when I took the time to post long passages from his speech and tell you guys that Trump indeed did respond in detail about Biden’s plans which you claimed ( at least completely agreed with the comment) that Trump was unable to respond. Maybe a little TDS happening. But at least you’re informed enough to vote for Trump for self-interest.

    Not one bit of TDS here.  I’m just sick and tired of Trump’s schtick with his Twitter account.  As Brit Hume pointed out this week, Trump gave one of the best speeches of his presidency at Mt. Rushmore and, 24 hours later, undoes it with his “Has Bubba Wallace apologized” tweet.  Most people couldn’t care less if Bubba Wallace hires Louis Farrakhan as his crew chief and Trump believes he has to comment on a situation that has fallen out of the news cycle?

    If Trump can stay on point he will win the election.  If not, he gets what he deserves.  The bad thing is; we don’t deserve Joe Biden.

     

     

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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Buckpasser (View Comment):

    I will say this again. The election is a binary one. It’s between Donald Trump and AOC/OMAR/BLM/Antifa. Vote accordingly.

    If I thought that that was the choice, I would vote for Trump. I just don’t.

    That is because you are a Democrat masquerading as a Reagan Republican.

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  19. Tocqueville Inactive
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    Franco (View Comment):
    ‘Conservatives’ who want a President who is the equivalent of a moral Ken Doll they can play with and wave in the faces of their immoral, libertine enemies as proxy for their own virtues.

    Nominating Mitt Romney worked out brilliantly. I think there’s something to be said for being on guard against priggishness. As the Democrats become the party of rigid orthodoxy and fascist morality enforcing, there’s a real change for conservatives. At least that’s how I got here.

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  20. Tocqueville Inactive
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    Sisyphus (hears Xi laughing) (View Comment):
    ‘Conservatives’ who want a President who is the equivalent of a moral Ken Doll they can play with and wave in the faces of their immoral, libertine enemies as proxy for their own virtues.

    In what way are Trump’s most fervent supporters “unhinged?” Because they wear MAGA hats and think he can do no wrong?  I am really asking. I am a 39 yr old woman, who lived in Brooklyn and did yoga, and I don’t really care if Trump once said “pussy” or has a gold toilet or dates supermodels or cheats on them with strippers named Stormy.

    Biden’s most unhinged supporters are making America a country of marauding thugs, craven elites and broken virtue signaling policies that no one even believes in anymore. (Like when they pass out medals in communist countries).  Our universities, where people aren’t allowed to express any opinion not way left of center, and woke cultural institutions are not in thrall of professional wrestling fanatic “hicks” wearing MAGA hats, who lack Princeton degrees and who like to bbq and polish their AR15s. I would just really like to understand how the choice between right and left is difficult in 2020.

    Furthermore the “extremist” Trumpians presumably still believe in women’s sports (can still identify and define a biological woman), whatever other personal defects they might have. Democrats are leading the charge to push thru the Equality Act, effectively ending women’s sports and females only spaces in changing rooms. The Democrats have pushed policies that let children decide to have mastectomies, and celebrate them for it (except when they regret and then the extreme left speaking through the mouthpiece of Big Tech pillories the poor deep voiced bearded women who want to talk about it via social media). The Left wants children from the age of 5 to learn about masturbation, same-sex partnerships and gender neutrality in public schools.

    But is Never Trumpism about Trump’s gold toilets and penchant for off-color tweets? We won’t have any more gold toilets under Biden, thank heavens.

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  21. Miffed White Male Member
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    brad2971 (View Comment):
    Polls can most certainly be questioned if the pollsters cannot reach more than 50% of the available audience.

    Name the last time the national polls were off by more than the margin of error.  (spoiler alert – in 2016 they were pretty much spot on.  Trump won because a few key states went very slightly in his favor.)

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  22. kedavis Coolidge
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    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Buckpasser (View Comment):

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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    I look much more at what the candidates say, and not what some of their supporters say. I will grant you that some of Biden’s supporters are unhinged. By the same token, some of Trump’s supporters are unhinged.

    The calculus is Biden’s strengths & Trump’s weaknesses vs. Trump’s strengths & Biden’s weaknesses. My judgment is that the first is stronger than the second. Other people of good faith can come to a different conclusion, and most of my fellow Ricochetti have come to the second conclusion. But Ricochet is a website of the Center-Right, not a website of the Trump Right.So, Gary, your alternative to Trump vs. Biden-Pelosi-Schumer, fits where in that Center-Right spectrum? The choice in November is Trump vs. Biden-Pelosi-Schumer, not Trump vs. some imaginary perfect candidate.I will say this again. The election is a binary one. It’s between Donald Trump and AOC/OMAR/BLM/Antifa. Vote accordingly.If I thought that that was the choice, I would vote for Trump. I just don’t.[Redacted. Personal attack. Violation of CC].

    I hope to God that you don’t get to find out how wrong you are by getting what you want.

    I wish Gary could find out how wrong he is, without the rest of us having to find out too, the hard way.

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  23. Bob Thompson Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Buckpasser (View Comment):

    Jim McConnell (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    I look much more at what the candidates say, and not what some of their supporters say. I will grant you that some of Biden’s supporters are unhinged. By the same token, some of Trump’s supporters are unhinged.

    The calculus is Biden’s strengths & Trump’s weaknesses vs. Trump’s strengths & Biden’s weaknesses. My judgment is that the first is stronger than the second. Other people of good faith can come to a different conclusion, and most of my fellow Ricochetti have come to the second conclusion. But Ricochet is a website of the Center-Right, not a website of the Trump Right.So, Gary, your alternative to Trump vs. Biden-Pelosi-Schumer, fits where in that Center-Right spectrum? The choice in November is Trump vs. Biden-Pelosi-Schumer, not Trump vs. some imaginary perfect candidate.I will say this again. The election is a binary one. It’s between Donald Trump and AOC/OMAR/BLM/Antifa. Vote accordingly.If I thought that that was the choice, I would vote for Trump. I just don’t.[Redacted. Personal attack. Violation of CC].

    I hope to God that you don’t get to find out how wrong you are by getting what you want.

    I wish Gary could find out how wrong he is, without the rest of us having to find out too, the hard way.

    All one must do is extract one point from Gary’s position to show how stupidly wrong he is. He approves Trump’s judicial appointments. I guess he would approve any judicial appointments.

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  24. Weeping Inactive
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    Tocqueville (View Comment):

    Sisyphus (hears Xi laughing) (View Comment):
    ‘Conservatives’ who want a President who is the equivalent of a moral Ken Doll they can play with and wave in the faces of their immoral, libertine enemies as proxy for their own virtues.

    In what way are Trump’s most fervent supporters “unhinged?” Because they wear MAGA hats and think he can do no wrong? I am really asking. I am a 39 yr old woman, who lived in Brooklyn and did yoga, and I don’t really care if Trump once said “pussy” or has a gold toilet or dates supermodels or cheats on them with strippers named Stormy.

    Biden’s most unhinged supporters are making America a country of marauding thugs, craven elites and broken virtue signaling policies that no one even believes in anymore. (Like when they pass out medals in communist countries). Our universities, where people aren’t allowed to express any opinion not way left of center, and woke cultural institutions are not in thrall of professional wrestling fanatic “hicks” wearing MAGA hats, who lack Princeton degrees and who like to bbq and polish their AR15s. I would just really like to understand how the choice between right and left is difficult in 2020.

    Furthermore the “extremist” Trumpians presumably still believe in women’s sports (can still identify and define a biological woman), whatever other personal defects they might have. Democrats are leading the charge to push thru the Equality Act, effectively ending women’s sports and females only spaces in changing rooms. The Democrats have pushed policies that let children decide to have mastectomies, and celebrate them for it (except when they regret and then the extreme left speaking through the mouthpiece of Big Tech pillories the poor deep voiced bearded women who want to talk about it via social media). The Left wants children from the age of 5 to learn about masturbation, same-sex partnerships and gender neutrality in public schools.

    But is Never Trumpism about Trump’s gold toilets and penchant for off-color tweets? We won’t have any more gold toilets under Biden, thank heavens.

    Very well said!

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