Ruth Bader Ginsburg Hospitalized with Infection

 

2020 continues to keep things interesting.

Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg has been taken to the hospital and treated for a possible infection, according to a court spokeswoman.

“Justice Ginsburg was admitted to The Johns Hopkins Hospital in Baltimore, Maryland early this morning for treatment of a possible infection,” spokeswoman Kathleen Arberg said Tuesday. “She was initially evaluated at Sibley Memorial Hospital in Washington, D.C. last night after experiencing fever and chills. She underwent an endoscopic procedure at Johns Hopkins this afternoon to clean out a bile duct stent that was placed last August. The Justice is resting comfortably and will stay in the hospital for a few days to receive intravenous antibiotic treatment.”

Ginsburg is 87 and has a long history of health issues. She is a four-time cancer survivor, had a nonsurgical gallbladder treatment in May, and missed oral arguments in January 2019 due to lung surgery.

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  1. Stad Coolidge
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    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    Someone posted about how the worst is yet to come in 2020. It’s here. In the midst of all this insanity, throw in a SCOTUS nomination. Unbelievable. Where is SMOD when we need it?

    Trump is the SMOD, and the target is the elitist status quo . . .

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  2. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    Douglas Pratt (View Comment):

    I hope Ms Ginsburg’s health returns quickly and that she is safe and comfortable. I also wish she would retire. At least the sh*tstorm we would get would be familiar.

    This is where I am. 

    For the love of God, she has earned retirement. Why didn’t she leave when Obama was President. Man. 

    Then again, for humanity’s sake I think Biden should be left alone. I think he is being abused by family and handlers. It is sick. 

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  3. Stad Coolidge
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    The biggest question is if Trump would want to hit for the fences by nominating ACB who will lose the votes of Lisa Murkowski and Susan Collins, or if he would pick a “safer” nominee.

    I’m not so sure Murkowski and Collins would reject Amy outright, because a “Nay” vote which kills ACB’s shot at a seat would come back to haunt them in the next Republican primary.  Besides, McConnell might be able to sway a Democrat or two to make up the difference, especially if those Dems are vulnerable . . .

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  4. HeavyWater Inactive
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    Stad (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    The biggest question is if Trump would want to hit for the fences by nominating ACB who will lose the votes of Lisa Murkowski and Susan Collins, or if he would pick a “safer” nominee.

    I’m not so sure Murkowski and Collins would reject Amy outright, because a “Nay” vote which kills ACB’s shot at a seat would come back to haunt them in the next Republican primary. Besides, McConnell might be able to sway a Democrat or two to make up the difference, especially if those Dems are vulnerable . . .

    Kavanaugh was able to win confirmation without Murkowski’s vote.  So, I’d say it would be best not to worry about Murkowski.  

    In 2019, when Kavanaugh was confirmed, there were 51 Republicans in the Senate.  Now there are 53.  

    Advantage Amy Coney Barrett.

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  5. brad2971 Inactive
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    Ironically, if RBG were to step off of the Court and ACB were confirmed, this could give less reason to vote for Trump, as there won’t be any obvious vacancies.

    You win the prize for broken record.

    Gary has been living on hope since 2016. I wonder why the never-Trumpers do not consider the alternative: Would the Biden-Pelosi-Schumer crowd be an improvement? Over anything?

    Policy-wise Biden would be a strong step down. But the benefit would be the political end of Trump and Trumpism. See Kevin Williamson’s piece today at the National Review. https://www.nationalreview.com/the-tuesday/price-trump-presidency-government-political-system-civic-culture-degraded/

    I just read KDW’s rant on Trump on NRO this morning. Unhinged.

    Funny, I found Kevin Williamson to be right on point. I suggest that you read it and decide for yourself. https://www.nationalreview.com/the-tuesday/price-trump-presidency-government-political-system-civic-culture-degraded/

    I guess if we’re in the business of hijacking threads, I will make this statement on your links, Gary. 

    Frankly, Kevin Williamson is a prime example of a GenXer who is showing, for all the world to see, why the ’90s were years that stunted GenX’s intellectual growth. Other examples of this type are Kamala Harris, Ted Cruz, Beto O’Rourke, and Marco Rubio.

    I’m a GenXer, so I know my cohort when I see it showing its bare-naked rear end in public.

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  6. brad2971 Inactive
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    As for the Notorious RBG and her health: How many times over the last few  years have we heard stories like this? Only to see her become…very lucid again?

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  7. Buckpasser Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

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    It may be uncharitable, but I predict that if RBG were to leave the Supreme Court soon (for whatever reason) that Progressive would riot in the streets of DC and the city would be under martial law for months.

    And Mitch would ram the new nomination through.

    Winning!

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  8. Kozak Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    Policy-wise Biden would be a strong step down. But the benefit would be the political end of Trump and Trumpism

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  9. Stad Coolidge
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    brad2971 (View Comment):

    As for the Notorious RBG and her health: How many times over the last few years have we heard stories like this? Only to see her become…very lucid again?

    The body can only take so much before you start to lose ground after every incident.  RGB despises conservatism so much, she’ll never resign.  It’s possible hate is the only thing that keeps her going . . .

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  10. Manny Coolidge
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    Stad (View Comment):

    brad2971 (View Comment):

    As for the Notorious RBG and her health: How many times over the last few years have we heard stories like this? Only to see her become…very lucid again?

    The body can only take so much before you start to lose ground after every incident. RGB despises conservatism so much, she’ll never resign. It’s possible hate is the only thing that keeps her going . . .

    She could be one of those people who just never want to retire. I’ve seen them at my work. We have an engineer that’s in his 80s and still loves to travel for work. I don’t know how demanding a job SCOTUS actually is. She’s probably got plenty of assistance and they only seem to work half the year. 

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  11. HeavyWater Inactive
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    Manny (View Comment):

    Stad (View Comment):

    brad2971 (View Comment):

    As for the Notorious RBG and her health: How many times over the last few years have we heard stories like this? Only to see her become…very lucid again?

    The body can only take so much before you start to lose ground after every incident. RGB despises conservatism so much, she’ll never resign. It’s possible hate is the only thing that keeps her going . . .

    She could be one of those people who just never want to retire. I’ve seen them at my work. We have an engineer that’s in his 80s and still loves to travel for work. I don’t know how demanding a job SCOTUS actually is. She’s probably got plenty of assistance and they only seem to work half the year.

    What about Clarence Thomas?  Thomas is 72 years old.  We currently have a US Senate with a 53-47 Republican majority and a GOP president.  

    If Clarence Thomas does not retire this year and Biden wins in November, how confident can conservatives be that Clarence Thomas will live long enough to be able to retire at a time when his seat can be filled by another conservative?

    Do you want him to retire now?  Does Thomas risk dying the way Scalia did?  Unexpectedly and during a Democrat presidency?

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  12. Western Chauvinist Member
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    HeavyWater (View Comment):
    Do you want him to retire now? Does Thomas risk dying the way Scalia did? Unexpectedly and during a Democrat presidency?

    That is just dark, but it comports with the times, sadly. 

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  13. Douglas Pratt Coolidge
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    I don’t want Clarence Thomas to retire. I want him to be Chief Justice. He is the best of them. Hell, he is the best of America.

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  14. Umbra Fractus Inactive
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    Marjorie Reynolds (View Comment):

    Giulietta (View Comment):

    I wish RBG well. She has been incredibly gracious towards Kavanaugh which was classy and kind of her in the wake of the scorched earth campaign he endured during his confirmation.

    She has been gracious to be fair to her.
    I don’t want the oul bird to drop off the twig either, just to retire. Unless Biden wins in November, in that case I hope she’ll live forever.

     

    To be fair to Biden, even if she does drop during his administration, I can’t see her replacement being much worse. (Albeit longer lived.)

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  15. HeavyWater Inactive
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    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    HeavyWater (View Comment):
    Do you want him to retire now? Does Thomas risk dying the way Scalia did? Unexpectedly and during a Democrat presidency?

    That is just dark, but it comports with the times, sadly.

    If Antonin Scalia had known in 2005 the following:

    [a] the Democrats would win the US Senate in 2006, 2008, 2010 and 2012

    [b] the Democrats would win the Presidency in 2008 and 2012

    Scalia might have decided to retire in 2005-2006 instead of die while Obama was serving out his last years of his presidency.

    But, upon Scalia’s death, Mitch McConnell refused to consider any nomination to replace Scalia by President Obama.  That choice by McConnell was made possible by the 2014 US Senate elections, which the GOP won.

    If the Democrats had held onto the US Senate in the 2014 elections, Harry Reid would have confirmed whomever Obama had chosen to replace Scalia.  

    So, if you are a US Supreme Court Justice, staying in off into your 70s and 80s is gambling with the balance of the court.  It’s possible you can die unexpectedly and hand power to your opponents.  This almost happened with Scalia.  

    So, if Thomas decides not to retire this year, he’d better be in excellent health.

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  16. Western Chauvinist Member
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    HeavyWater (View Comment):
    It’s possible you can die “unexpectedly” and hand power to your opponents.

    FIFY. 

    HeavyWater (View Comment):
    So, if Thomas decides not to retire this year, he’d better be in excellent health

    This assumes there’s any way in hell Trump is going to get another SCOTUS appointment this year. We think we’ve seen riots in the streets this year? Tain’t nuthin’. 

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  17. HeavyWater Inactive
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    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    HeavyWater (View Comment):
    It’s possible you can die “unexpectedly” and hand power to your opponents.

    FIFY.

    HeavyWater (View Comment):
    So, if Thomas decides not to retire this year, he’d better be in excellent health

    This assumes there’s any way in hell Trump is going to get another SCOTUS appointment this year. We think we’ve seen riots in the streets this year? Tain’t nuthin’.

    Right now there are 53 Republican US Senators (compared to 51 when Kavanaugh was confirmed).  

    Now is the time!

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  18. Western Chauvinist Member
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    HeavyWater (View Comment):

    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    HeavyWater (View Comment):
    It’s possible you can die “unexpectedly” and hand power to your opponents.

    FIFY.

    HeavyWater (View Comment):
    So, if Thomas decides not to retire this year, he’d better be in excellent health

    This assumes there’s any way in hell Trump is going to get another SCOTUS appointment this year. We think we’ve seen riots in the streets this year? Tain’t nuthin’.

    Right now there are 53 Republican US Senators (compared to 51 when Kavanaugh was confirmed).

    Now is the time!

    Breyer is almost 82. He should go first.

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  19. HeavyWater Inactive
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    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    HeavyWater (View Comment):
    It’s possible you can die “unexpectedly” and hand power to your opponents.

    FIFY.

    HeavyWater (View Comment):
    So, if Thomas decides not to retire this year, he’d better be in excellent health

    This assumes there’s any way in hell Trump is going to get another SCOTUS appointment this year. We think we’ve seen riots in the streets this year? Tain’t nuthin’.

    Could Amy Coney Barrett really cause a riot on the Left?  I would love to see that.  That would probably guarantee a Republican-Trump victory in the November elections.

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  20. Weeping Inactive
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    HeavyWater (View Comment):

    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    HeavyWater (View Comment):
    It’s possible you can die “unexpectedly” and hand power to your opponents.

    FIFY.

    HeavyWater (View Comment):
    So, if Thomas decides not to retire this year, he’d better be in excellent health

    This assumes there’s any way in hell Trump is going to get another SCOTUS appointment this year. We think we’ve seen riots in the streets this year? Tain’t nuthin’.

    Could Amy Coney Barrett really cause a riot on the Left? I would love to see that. That would probably guarantee a Republican-Trump victory in the November elections.

    I believe any candidate would cause a riot on the Left – even Merrick Garland, the person they wanted so badly a few years ago.

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  21. HeavyWater Inactive
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    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    HeavyWater (View Comment):

    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    HeavyWater (View Comment):
    It’s possible you can die “unexpectedly” and hand power to your opponents.

    FIFY.

    HeavyWater (View Comment):
    So, if Thomas decides not to retire this year, he’d better be in excellent health

    This assumes there’s any way in hell Trump is going to get another SCOTUS appointment this year. We think we’ve seen riots in the streets this year? Tain’t nuthin’.

    Right now there are 53 Republican US Senators (compared to 51 when Kavanaugh was confirmed).

    Now is the time!

    Breyer is almost 82. He should go first.

    Breyer isn’t going to retire while Trump is in office.  Neither is Ruth Bader Ginsberg.  

    Why?  Because both Breyer and Ginsberg want to be replaced by a Leftist, not a constitutional conservative.

    So, both Breyer and Ginsberg are waiting and hoping for a Biden victory over Trump and a Democrat victory in the US Senate races this fall.  Then, in 2021 they will retire.  

    But if a Biden-Democrat US Senate victory were to occur this fall, Thomas would have to wait until a future election where Republicans win the US Senate and the Presidency.  How long would that be?  No one knows.  But it could be 4 years, 8 years or even 12 years.  

    So, that would mean that Thomas would have to live to be 84 years old.  That’s possible.  But that isn’t guaranteed.

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  22. Western Chauvinist Member
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    HeavyWater (View Comment):

    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    HeavyWater (View Comment):

    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    HeavyWater (View Comment):
    It’s possible you can die “unexpectedly” and hand power to your opponents.

    FIFY.

    HeavyWater (View Comment):
    So, if Thomas decides not to retire this year, he’d better be in excellent health

    This assumes there’s any way in hell Trump is going to get another SCOTUS appointment this year. We think we’ve seen riots in the streets this year? Tain’t nuthin’.

    Right now there are 53 Republican US Senators (compared to 51 when Kavanaugh was confirmed).

    Now is the time!

    Breyer is almost 82. He should go first.

    Breyer isn’t going to retire while Trump is in office. Neither is Ruth Bader Ginsberg.

    Why? Because both Breyer and Ginsberg want to be replaced by a Leftist, not a constitutional conservative.

    So, both Breyer and Ginsberg are waiting and hoping for a Biden victory over Trump and a Democrat victory in the US Senate races this fall. Then, in 2021 they will retire.

    But if a Biden-Democrat US Senate victory were to occur this fall, Thomas would have to wait until a future election where Republicans win the US Senate and the Presidency. How long would that be? No one knows. But it could be 4 years, 8 years or even 12 years.

    So, that would mean that Thomas would have to live to be 84 years old. That’s possible. But that isn’t guaranteed.

    No guarantee Breyer or Ginsberg are going to make it through the year either. I think a Thomas retirement is too clever by half. He’s the best thing we have going on the court. Never give up! Never surrender!!

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  23. HeavyWater Inactive
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    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    HeavyWater (View Comment):

    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    HeavyWater (View Comment):

    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    HeavyWater (View Comment):
    It’s possible you can die “unexpectedly” and hand power to your opponents.

    FIFY.

    HeavyWater (View Comment):
    So, if Thomas decides not to retire this year, he’d better be in excellent health

    This assumes there’s any way in hell Trump is going to get another SCOTUS appointment this year. We think we’ve seen riots in the streets this year? Tain’t nuthin’.

    Right now there are 53 Republican US Senators (compared to 51 when Kavanaugh was confirmed).

    Now is the time!

    Breyer is almost 82. He should go first.

    Breyer isn’t going to retire while Trump is in office. Neither is Ruth Bader Ginsberg.

    Why? Because both Breyer and Ginsberg want to be replaced by a Leftist, not a constitutional conservative.

    So, both Breyer and Ginsberg are waiting and hoping for a Biden victory over Trump and a Democrat victory in the US Senate races this fall. Then, in 2021 they will retire.

    But if a Biden-Democrat US Senate victory were to occur this fall, Thomas would have to wait until a future election where Republicans win the US Senate and the Presidency. How long would that be? No one knows. But it could be 4 years, 8 years or even 12 years.

    So, that would mean that Thomas would have to live to be 84 years old. That’s possible. But that isn’t guaranteed.

    No guarantee Breyer or Ginsberg are going to make it through the year either. I think a Thomas retirement is too clever by half. He’s the best thing we have going on the court. Never give up! Never surrender!!

    So, you would recommend to Clarence Thomas to stay on the US Supreme Court and hope that either 

    [a] The Republicans maintain control over the US Senate in the 2020 elections and Trump beats Biden

    [b] The Democrats win control over the US Senate and Biden beats Trump, but Thomas is able to stay alive long enough for a future Republican US Senate majority and Republican president to emerge, at which point Thomas can retire.

    That’s fine.  It’s just that Scalia died suddenly and unexpectedly.  If Thomas were to die of a heart attack in 2022, while the Democrats and Biden control the levers of power, we’re screwed.

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  24. brad2971 Inactive
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    HeavyWater (View Comment):

    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    HeavyWater (View Comment):

    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    HeavyWater (View Comment):

    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    HeavyWater (View Comment):
    It’s possible you can die “unexpectedly” and hand power to your opponents.

    FIFY.

    HeavyWater (View Comment):
    So, if Thomas decides not to retire this year, he’d better be in excellent health

    This assumes there’s any way in hell Trump is going to get another SCOTUS appointment this year. We think we’ve seen riots in the streets this year? Tain’t nuthin’.

    Right now there are 53 Republican US Senators (compared to 51 when Kavanaugh was confirmed).

    Now is the time!

    Breyer is almost 82. He should go first.

    Breyer isn’t going to retire while Trump is in office. Neither is Ruth Bader Ginsberg.

    Why? Because both Breyer and Ginsberg want to be replaced by a Leftist, not a constitutional conservative.

    So, both Breyer and Ginsberg are waiting and hoping for a Biden victory over Trump and a Democrat victory in the US Senate races this fall. Then, in 2021 they will retire.

    But if a Biden-Democrat US Senate victory were to occur this fall, Thomas would have to wait until a future election where Republicans win the US Senate and the Presidency. How long would that be? No one knows. But it could be 4 years, 8 years or even 12 years.

    So, that would mean that Thomas would have to live to be 84 years old. That’s possible. But that isn’t guaranteed.

    No guarantee Breyer or Ginsberg are going to make it through the year either. I think a Thomas retirement is too clever by half. He’s the best thing we have going on the court. Never give up! Never surrender!!

    So, you would recommend to Clarence Thomas to stay on the US Supreme Court and hope that either

    [a] The Republicans maintain control over the US Senate in the 2020 elections and Trump beats Biden

    [b] The Democrats win control over the US Senate and Biden beats Trump, but Thomas is able to stay alive long enough for a future Republican US Senate majority and Republican president to emerge, at which point Thomas can retire.

    That’s fine. It’s just that Scalia died suddenly and unexpectedly. If Thomas were to die of a heart attack in 2022, while the Democrats and Biden control the levers of power, we’re screwed.

    This presumes a lot of folks on the right still believe in that old time religion of “We just need one more to overturn Roe/Obergfell/ACA.” This term…was not in the old-time religion folks’ favor.

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  25. Western Chauvinist Member
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    brad2971 (View Comment):
    This presumes a lot of folks on the right still believe in that old time religion of “We just need one more to overturn Roe/Obergfell/ACA.” This term…was not in the old-time religion folks’ favor.

    Yeah, I’ve given up on hope. We’ve been fighting a rearguard action for so long, I believe the best we can do is hold onto what we have for as long as we can. Thomas is indispensable. 

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  26. HeavyWater Inactive
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    brad2971 (View Comment):

    HeavyWater (View Comment):

    So, you would recommend to Clarence Thomas to stay on the US Supreme Court and hope that either

    [a] The Republicans maintain control over the US Senate in the 2020 elections and Trump beats Biden

    [b] The Democrats win control over the US Senate and Biden beats Trump, but Thomas is able to stay alive long enough for a future Republican US Senate majority and Republican president to emerge, at which point Thomas can retire.

    That’s fine. It’s just that Scalia died suddenly and unexpectedly. If Thomas were to die of a heart attack in 2022, while the Democrats and Biden control the levers of power, we’re screwed.

    This presumes a lot of folks on the right still believe in that old time religion of “We just need one more to overturn Roe/Obergfell/ACA.” This term…was not in the old-time religion folks’ favor.

    I make no such presumption.  

    If one desires a US Supreme Court that consists of people who were nominated by Republican president and confirmed by a Republican Senate over a court consisting of people nominated and confirmed by Democrats, then one would either want Thomas to live long enough to survive a Democrat victory in November 2020 or one would want Thomas to retire within the next month, unless one is very confident that Republicans are going to win this November’s election.

    If disappointments regarding recent US Supreme Court decisions have demoralized conservatives to the point where they no longer see even nominal Republican control over the courts as having any value at all, then it doesn’t matter if Thomas retires or not.

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  27. Miffed White Male Member
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    Giulietta (View Comment):
    However, she seems incredibly frail physically and even if she is extremely sharp mentally, when are we going to confront the question of whether lifetime appointments for justices are still appropriate? People live far longer now than they ever have and that point needs to be addressed.

    Ben Franklin, Thomas Jefferson and John Adams all lived to their late 80s.

     

    Franklin – 84

    Jefferson – 83

    Adams – 90

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  28. Miffed White Male Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    Policy-wise Biden would be a strong step down. But the benefit would be the political end of Trump and Trumpism.

    Potentially to be replaced by something worse.

     

    It’s been said that the Tea party was an attempt to get the governments attention by polite means.

    Trump was the attempt by impolite means.

    If even that didn’t work, something even more extreme might come into play.

     

     

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  29. brad2971 Inactive
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    Miffed White Male (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    Policy-wise Biden would be a strong step down. But the benefit would be the political end of Trump and Trumpism.

    Potentially to be replaced by something worse.

     

    It’s been said that the Tea party was an attempt to get the governments attention by polite means.

    Trump was the attempt by impolite means.

    If even that didn’t work, something even more extreme might come into play.

     

    Oh, yes. In fact, if Trump loses, what happened at the Michigan state capitol vis-a-vis guns brought into the building may be considered a preview of coming attractions. I seriously doubt this nation, or a potential President Biden, is prepared for that sort of event.

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  30. HeavyWater Inactive
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    brad2971 (View Comment):

    Miffed White Male (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    Policy-wise Biden would be a strong step down. But the benefit would be the political end of Trump and Trumpism.

    Potentially to be replaced by something worse.

     

    It’s been said that the Tea party was an attempt to get the governments attention by polite means.

    Trump was the attempt by impolite means.

    If even that didn’t work, something even more extreme might come into play.

    Oh, yes. In fact, if Trump loses, what happened at the Michigan state capitol vis-a-vis guns brought into the building may be considered a preview of coming attractions. I seriously doubt this nation, or a potential President Biden, is prepared for that sort of event.

    On PowerLineBlog.com there was recently a podcast about American Secession: The Looming Threat of National Breakup.

    https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/07/is-disunion-in-our-future.php

    Just as conservatives are tired of being governed by Washington DC, New York City and California, many on the Left don’t want to be governed by Wyoming, West Virginia, Oklahoma and Tennessee.  

    So, it is possible that there will be a negotiated settlement.  The Right and the Left will say, “You go your way; We will go our way.”

     

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