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barr durhamPresident Trump rightly commuted Roger Stone’s politically motivated and decided conviction and sentence. John Durham and Attorney General Barr’s excuse of “pandemic” was stripped away the very first day of leftist mass street protests. If thousands and tens of thousands can march and shout slogans shoulder to shoulder, John Durham can interview every stinking witness and suspect and can present his case to a grand jury which most certainly can “safely” meet.

This is all a leftist and deep state ruse. It is deception by the supposedly straight-arrow Barr. If they will not indict now, if they delay until after the election, then they are enemies of the Constitution. They are, in fact, hoping for Biden to win or at least for a House and Senate in Democrats hands so they can avoid the enormous pain actually challenging the deep state, the uniparty in Washington with the media and economic elite wings of the statist establishment.

Apparently John Huber and Barr are in the middle of calculating which way they think the chips will fall in November.

Conservative legal eagle Undercover Huber reacted to this news on Twitter. “A Biden administration will fire every US attorney on day one, especially John Durham,” he tweeted. “If his investigation doesn’t produce results before the election, it never will.”

Undercover Huber went on to point out that the Mueller probe yielded almost instantaneous results, as opposed to the more sluggish Durham probe.

President Trump, remarking on his commutation of Roger Stone’s sentence puts the spotlight back on Barr’s supposed commitment to “equal” justice.

Roger Stone was treated horribly. Roger Stone was treated very unfairly. Roger Stone was brought into this witch hunt, this whole political witch hunt and the Mueller scam — it’s a scam, because it’s been proven false. And he was treated very unfairly, just like General Flynn was treated unfairly; just like Papadopoulos was treated unfairly. They’ve all been treated unfairly.

And what I did —

Q Will you give them clemency too?

THE PRESIDENT: What I did — I will tell you this: People are extremely happy because, in this country, they want justice. And Roger Stone was not treated properly.

So I’m very happy with what I did. He — I commuted his sentence, and by commuting, he now has the right to go and — hey, look, he had a forewoman —

Q Sir, what about a jury?

THE PRESIDENT: Quiet.

Q A jury decided this, sir.

THE PRESIDENT: Quiet. Quiet.

He had a forewoman — he had a forewoman who was horrendous. She should have never been on the jury. The judge should’ve so ruled. The judge didn’t do that. Take a look at the record. The judge didn’t do that. Take a look at the forewoman. He should’ve had another trial. Roger Stone was treated very badly.

Now, take a look at Comey, take a look at McCabe, take a look at the two lovers, Strzok and Page. Take a look at all these people that are walking around and they lied to Congress, and they leaked and they did everything else — a lot of other things. Take a look at Biden, Sleepy Joe. Take a look at Obama. And they spied on Donald Trump’s campaign. Those are the people — let me just tell you something: Those are the people that should be in trouble.

Attorney General Barr has made a great deal of noise, but has shown not one shred of active concern for “equal” justice. He has not presided over even one early morning heavy FBI team raid, followed by on-camera perp-walk. He had the complete authority to throw as many resources at the supposed investigation as Mueller did. Indeed he had the whole Department of Justice and the FBI at his disposal. It is entirely his fault, and his intent, that the Durham “investigation” has been as slow as it has been. COVID-19 was just another fig leaf, another fan for the fellow’s fan dance.

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  1. Rodin Member

    Agreed. 

    • #1
    • July 12, 2020, at 9:08 PM PDT
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  2. JennaStocker Member

    This is another example of why people are either 1)completely disillusioned by politics; 2)sick & tired of the obvious unequal standards of justice, not only for Left v. Right, but the powerful v. the people; or 3) BOTH- and I think it’s a big reason people voted for Trump over Hillary in 2016.

    And to make this situation more frustrating to me, aside from the two-tiered ‘justice’ system for the rulers and the ruled, is that if prosecutions happen before the election, Pelosi and the Democrats will scream about it influencing the election. Waiting to prosecute runs the risk, like you said, of all the main players being fired.

    • #2
    • July 12, 2020, at 9:30 PM PDT
    • 13 likes
  3. Arahant Member

    Let it be done.

    • #3
    • July 12, 2020, at 9:31 PM PDT
    • 14 likes
  4. Bruce Caward Thatcher
    Bruce Caward Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    If these guys don’t act, don’t ignore supposed “political ramifications” and just deliver the justice that is called for here, that we all sat through all of that baloney for, that we won, we called them on their BS, and then hired these guys to go clean out the stables, if they play political games and let this all slide until after the election, then we are all effed. The country is lost. All of this was pointless. There are no good guys, everybody is bad guys and we the people can just forget it, because we all let it go too long without breaking out the tar and feathers, and now we are toast. We can just stop pretending that our style of government works, because it evidently doesn’t.

    • #4
    • July 12, 2020, at 10:26 PM PDT
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  5. Stad Thatcher

    My guess is the reason it’s taking so long is they want to have an ironclad strategy in place before they execute the first indictment. This tells me there may be some big fish involved, including a former President and his Veep as unindicted co-conspirators . . .

    • #5
    • July 13, 2020, at 5:15 AM PDT
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  6. Hang On Member
    Hang On Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    You still haven’t figured it out? It’s a shell game. Of the insiders, for the insiders, by the insiders.

    • #6
    • July 13, 2020, at 5:41 AM PDT
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  7. Tex929rr Coolidge

    There is still plenty of time. But what if this is the age old problem in that Barr and Durham actually believe in doing things the right way? After all, the early morning FBI raids and perp walks are horrendous abuses of the justice system. Unfortunately, this ends up in us being on the wrong side of asymmetric warfare against the win at all costs left.

    Let me clarify: I think it has to be done before the election. But what a shame that it’s come to this. We had plenty of warnings but didn’t commit to the fight (I’m looking at you, Never Trumpers).

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    • July 13, 2020, at 5:41 AM PDT
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  8. Hang On Member
    Hang On Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Tex929rr (View Comment):

    There is still plenty of time. But what if this is the age old problem in that Barr and Durham actually believe in doing things the right way? After all, the early morning FBI raids and perp walks are horrendous abuses of the justice system. Unfortunately, this ends up in us being on the wrong side of asymmetric warfare against the win at all costs left.

    Let me clarify: I think it has to be done before the election. But what a shame that it’s come to this. We had plenty of warnings but didn’t commit to the fight (I’m looking at you, Never Trumpers).

    Never Trumpers are in the fight. On the other side because that’s where their bread is buttered.

    • #8
    • July 13, 2020, at 6:03 AM PDT
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  9. I Walton Member

    Stad (View Comment):

    My guess is the reason it’s taking so long is they want to have an ironclad strategy in place before they execute the first indictment. This tells me there may be some big fish involved, including a former President and his Veep as unindicted co-conspirators . . .

    Agree and they need to win the next election to carry it out. If they don’t, it probably doesn’t matter much as it’s all over for a long time, if not for ever.

    • #9
    • July 13, 2020, at 6:25 AM PDT
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  10. Goldgeller Member

    Stad (View Comment):

    My guess is the reason it’s taking so long is they want to have an ironclad strategy in place before they execute the first indictment. This tells me there may be some big fish involved, including a former President and his Veep as unindicted co-conspirators . . .

    I want to say this. I hope that’s the point. But things are rarely ever that clear, otherwise the report would have been done a long time ago right? (Genuinely asking.) To the extent that the process is drawn out and kept opaque– if the Trump loses, the report can just be filed away. I’d drop it off the hour before the first football game! That way rank and file investigators who expect to keep working in good standing (e.g., not named Barr) won’t have to explain to the Biden admin why they trashed one of the Democrats’ and their President’s signature political ploys. (I’m assuming they are going to uncover anti-Trump malfeasance.)

    My other concern– I sense people are waiting on two people to swoop in and set things right with some fancy report. I’m skeptical… I’m worried that that is our version of the “the walls are closing in. Trump is feeling increasing isolated…” 

    The attacks on Barr have already been made precisely for this moment. The report will make it worse because the left leaning media complex will just spin it as an example of Trump and Barr politicizing the Justice Department. 

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    • July 13, 2020, at 6:37 AM PDT
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  11. DonG (skeptic) Coolidge

    G.W.Bush (GOP) was a disaster, so the people tried Obama. He (DNC) was a disaster, so people tried Trump (outsider). That looks to be a failure too. Now what ? What is the fourth choice? Socialism? Anarchy??? Paul Ryan, Jeff Sessions, McConnell all had a hand in what happened and what is coming. 

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    • July 13, 2020, at 6:44 AM PDT
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  12. EDISONPARKS Member
    EDISONPARKS Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    It will be incredibly impressive if no one is ever held responsible with indictments, convictions, and jail time.

    They did it, everyone knows they did it, they got away with it … and now all of us demanding justice can go shove it up our collective ahrses.

    Impressive.

    • #12
    • July 13, 2020, at 8:00 AM PDT
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  13. Rodin Member

    DonG (skeptic) (View Comment):

    G.W.Bush (GOP) was a disaster, so the people tried Obama. He (DNC) was a disaster, so people tried Trump (outsider). That looks to be a failure too. Now what ? What is the fourth choice? Socialism? Anarchy??? Paul Ryan, Jeff Sessions, McConnell all had a hand in what happened and what is coming.

    @dong, your comment put me in mind of the story of Abraham negotiating with God over the number of righteous persons in Sodom and Gomorrah that would be required to save them from judgement. We will find out in November our own fate. Pray that there are enough righteous men and women to save our land.

    • #13
    • July 13, 2020, at 11:50 AM PDT
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  14. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
    Bryan G. Stephens Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Stad (View Comment):

    My guess is the reason it’s taking so long is they want to have an ironclad strategy in place before they execute the first indictment. This tells me there may be some big fish involved, including a former President and his Veep as unindicted co-conspirators . . .

    I used to think that.

    But it is more elites vs us

    • #14
    • July 13, 2020, at 11:58 AM PDT
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  15. Maguffin Member

    It’s too late to do anything now. You could arrest and charge someone tomorrow, and the media will spin it like they always do as political. And since it probably won’t hit a courtroom until after the election, you can’t show the evidence it isn’t. 

    If Trump wins, they might as well not do anything now as we get extra innings. If Trump loses, they might as well not do anything now since it will just quietly be shelved and the people working on it fired soon enough.

    And what are the odds that if the DOJ decides to drop prosecution after a Biden win that there’s a judge who would try to carry that ball down the field like the Flynn judge.

    • #15
    • July 13, 2020, at 12:51 PM PDT
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  16. Goldwaterwoman Thatcher

    Stad (View Comment):

    My guess is the reason it’s taking so long is they want to have an ironclad strategy in place before they execute the first indictment. This tells me there may be some big fish involved, including a former President and his Veep as unindicted co-conspirators . . .

    Color me skeptical. If past government investigations are any indication of the future, nothing will come of it, or the press will spin it to suit their own agenda.

    • #16
    • July 13, 2020, at 1:05 PM PDT
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  17. EDISONPARKS Member
    EDISONPARKS Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Maguffin (View Comment):

    It’s too late to do anything now. You could arrest and charge someone tomorrow, and the media will spin it like they always do as political. And since it probably won’t hit a courtroom until after the election, you can’t show the evidence it isn’t.

    If Trump wins, they might as well not do anything now as we get extra innings. If Trump loses, they might as well not do anything now since it will just quietly be shelved and the people working on it fired soon enough.

    And what are the odds that if the DOJ decides to drop prosecution after a Biden win that there’s a judge who would try to carry that ball down the field like the Flynn judge.

    I agree, we should fully embrace (D) corruption and allow our political adversaries to walk all over us because …. Donald Trump.

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    • July 13, 2020, at 1:13 PM PDT
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  18. MichaelKennedy Coolidge

     I am quite concerned about Barr. The Swamp is wide and deep. I pretty much rely on Conservative Tree House for the story.

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/07/13/why-fire-dana-boente/

    There is a whole series of posts to follow. One reason for delay may be the DOJ resistance team may still be hiding documents but that is no reason to delay more.

    • #18
    • July 13, 2020, at 1:16 PM PDT
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  19. Giulietta Coolidge

    The buildup reminds me of the wait for the Mueller report. We were on tenterhooks for that one and then when it came, it was mostly a revelation that Mueller had lost his marbles.

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    • July 13, 2020, at 1:30 PM PDT
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  20. EDISONPARKS Member
    EDISONPARKS Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    MichaelKennedy (View Comment):

    I am quite concerned about Barr. The Swamp is wide and deep. I pretty much rely on Conservative Tree House for the story.

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/07/13/why-fire-dana-boente/

    There is a whole series of posts to follow. One reason for delay may be the DOJ resistance team may still be hiding documents but that is no reason to delay more.

    The MSM/(D)/Left likes to pretend CTH is a nutter, when the preponderance of Sundance’s work is posting and analyzing actual publicly available DOJ/FBI/Govt official documents.

    If you don’t like the truth, then attack the messenger.

     

    • #20
    • July 13, 2020, at 1:41 PM PDT
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  21. The Reticulator Member

    I wish this was the subject of some YouTube campaign ads, instead of those lame ones about Biden and China. Biden and China are an issue, but not a big enough issue to be the basis for a whole campaign.

    Then again, why should the Trump campaign waste time getting me interested. I won’t be going elsewhere. 

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    • July 13, 2020, at 1:46 PM PDT
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  22. Stad Thatcher

    DonG (skeptic) (View Comment):
    so people tried Trump (outsider). That looks to be a failure too.

    Not to this guy. To me, Trump’s Presidency is everything I’ve dreamed of in a President. He’s surpassed Reagan in my book . . .

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    • July 13, 2020, at 2:40 PM PDT
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  23. Bob Thompson Member

    Goldgeller (View Comment):

    Stad (View Comment):

    My guess is the reason it’s taking so long is they want to have an ironclad strategy in place before they execute the first indictment. This tells me there may be some big fish involved, including a former President and his Veep as unindicted co-conspirators . . .

    I want to say this. I hope that’s the point. But things are rarely ever that clear, otherwise the report would have been done a long time ago right? (Genuinely asking.) To the extent that the process is drawn out and kept opaque– if the Trump loses, the report can just be filed away. I’d drop it off the hour before the first football game! That way rank and file investigators who expect to keep working in good standing (e.g., not named Barr) won’t have to explain to the Biden admin why they trashed one of the Democrats’ and their President’s signature political ploys. (I’m assuming they are going to uncover anti-Trump malfeasance.)

    My other concern– I sense people are waiting on two people to swoop in and set things right with some fancy report. I’m skeptical… I’m worried that that is our version of the “the walls are closing in. Trump is feeling increasing isolated…”

    The attacks on Barr have already been made precisely for this moment. The report will make it worse because the left leaning media complex will just spin it as an example of Trump and Barr politicizing the Justice Department.

    You write as if this is something like the Mueller Investigation that resulted in a report because there were no crimes for indictment except those that had been created by the Special Counsel. We are not looking for a report. We are expecting criminal indictments by the dozens. Any policy of not indicting close to an election was trashed by the behavior of the criminals who are going to be the objects, or should I say subjects, of the indictments. Let’s go. Get these on the court dockets.

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    • July 13, 2020, at 3:51 PM PDT
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  24. Goldwaterwoman Thatcher

    Stad (View Comment):
    Not to this guy. To me, Trump’s Presidency is everything I’ve dreamed of in a President. He’s surpassed Reagan in my book . . .

    Umm, except for the tweets.

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    • July 13, 2020, at 3:59 PM PDT
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  25. Maguffin Member

    EDISONPARKS (View Comment):

    Maguffin (View Comment):

    It’s too late to do anything now. You could arrest and charge someone tomorrow, and the media will spin it like they always do as political. And since it probably won’t hit a courtroom until after the election, you can’t show the evidence it isn’t.

    If Trump wins, they might as well not do anything now as we get extra innings. If Trump loses, they might as well not do anything now since it will just quietly be shelved and the people working on it fired soon enough.

    And what are the odds that if the DOJ decides to drop prosecution after a Biden win that there’s a judge who would try to carry that ball down the field like the Flynn judge.

    I agree, we should fully embrace (D) corruption and allow our political adversaries to walk all over us because …. Donald Trump.

    That wasn’t the point I was trying to make. This isn’t what I WANT to happen. It is simply what I’m pretty sure will happen. I am definitely not a NeverTrumper, and have been very pleased with his policies in general so far. Could do without the tweets, and maybe a bit more personal loyalty – but I knew about both of those going in.

    It was more of a comment that action has probably already been put off for too long to turn out well. It should not have taken this long to at least charge someone and start trying to roll that up the chain.

    So, do you think that starting to charge people now has a chance to get the cases to a point where the evidence presented in court might be helpful politically before November? Do you think that if Biden wins those cases will be allowed to continue?

    And ow. That hurt.

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    • July 13, 2020, at 4:04 PM PDT
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  26. Maguffin Member

    Goldwaterwoman (View Comment):

    Stad (View Comment):
    Not to this guy. To me, Trump’s Presidency is everything I’ve dreamed of in a President. He’s surpassed Reagan in my book . . .

    Umm, except for the tweets.

    His tweets are much better than Reagan’s. His Instagram too.

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    • July 13, 2020, at 4:07 PM PDT
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  27. Unsk Member

    Bob: “We are not looking for a report. We are expecting criminal indictments by the dozens.”

    Exactly. We do not need to “wrap” up anything. Start indicting tomorrow those who you know have committed crimes which all know are dozens.

    The process of bringing indictments will open those and encourage those who are not now telling the truth to finally tell the truth. Time to strike more than a little fear in the Deep State. That fear will lead to confessions and the ratting out of the real culprits who are now being protected.

    This process by Durham and Barr smells to high heaven. Durham, if he doesn’t bring indictments by the end of the week should be fired and replaced by someone who will. The evidence is all there for the vast majority of cases. We all know it is. This process reeks of a gross, politicized miscarriage of justice. Political considerations by damned. Justice is supposed to be blind, not always peeking over at what the Deep State is doing to get a “read” on where to go. Justice is also supposed to be swift, not glacial. This process has kept the whole country and the President hanging and waiting for some resolution while Durham gets his butt in gear.

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    • July 13, 2020, at 4:20 PM PDT
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  28. MichaelKennedy Coolidge

    Goldwaterwoman (View Comment):

    Stad (View Comment):
    Not to this guy. To me, Trump’s Presidency is everything I’ve dreamed of in a President. He’s surpassed Reagan in my book . . .

    Umm, except for the tweets.

    I could not watch Bush speak. He was tongue tied. His father was a typical Yalie prep, even with his war record. Reagan was considered so dangerous that in 1976 he was forced to choose Schweiker for VP. Shall we go on ? Nixon was “Tricky Dick,” Eisenhower was a mush mouth who could not hold a candle to brilliant Adlai Stevenson.

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    • July 13, 2020, at 4:43 PM PDT
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  29. EDISONPARKS Member
    EDISONPARKS Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Maguffin (View Comment):

    EDISONPARKS (View Comment):

    Maguffin (View Comment):

    It’s too late to do anything now. You could arrest and charge someone tomorrow, and the media will spin it like they always do as political. And since it probably won’t hit a courtroom until after the election, you can’t show the evidence it isn’t.

    If Trump wins, they might as well not do anything now as we get extra innings. If Trump loses, they might as well not do anything now since it will just quietly be shelved and the people working on it fired soon enough.

    And what are the odds that if the DOJ decides to drop prosecution after a Biden win that there’s a judge who would try to carry that ball down the field like the Flynn judge.

    I agree, we should fully embrace (D) corruption and allow our political adversaries to walk all over us because …. Donald Trump.

    That wasn’t the point I was trying to make. This isn’t what I WANT to happen. It is simply what I’m pretty sure will happen. I am definitely not a NeverTrumper, and have been very pleased with his policies in general so far. Could do without the tweets, and maybe a bit more personal loyalty – but I knew about both of those going in.

    It was more of a comment that action has probably already been put off for too long to turn out well. It should not have taken this long to at least charge someone and start trying to roll that up the chain.

    So, do you think that starting to charge people now has a chance to get the cases to a point where the evidence presented in court might be helpful politically before November? Do you think that if Biden wins those cases will be allowed to continue?

    And ow. That hurt.

    I was just encouraging everyone not to quit on this thing yet.

    If you can dodge a wrench, you can still hope for a Comey, McCabe, Clapper, Brennan, Weismann, Van Grack, Strzok, Page, Simpson, etc. perp walk.

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    • July 13, 2020, at 4:55 PM PDT
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  30. Bob Thompson Member

    Sundance at CTH has a long piece today explaining why Dana Boente suddenly ended his 38 years of government service:

    Why Fire Dana Boente?…

    All part of the Mueller Team coverup. Barr and Durham are still clearing away the debris.

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    • July 13, 2020, at 5:06 PM PDT
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