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The hits just keep on coming for the Portland Police Bureau, and the Multnomah County Sheriff’s Office. The usual whiners, their attorney’s, and Governor Kate Brown wants law enforcement in Portland to deescalate their response to violence, arson, and looting from the self-absorbed and entitled rioters in Portland.

From the Oregonian:

U.S. District Judge Marco A. Hernandez on June 9 issued a temporary restraining order restricting Portland police from using tear gas except if lives or public safety are at risk. He amended the order on June 26, adding less-lethal weapons to the restrictions and outright banning the use of an ear-splitting warning signal.

Don’t Shoot Portland has asked the judge to sanction the city for allegedly violating his orders and extend the restrictions by granting a preliminary injunction. A hearing is set for next Thursday and Friday.

Someone on the city council is starting to see that 30 days plus of criminal behavior in downtown Portland may create an exodus of businesses, as well as condo owners that have paid an exorbitant of money to work, and live in downtown Portland may vote with their feet. Little Beruit, or Havana on the Willamette River, may become Detroit on the Willamette.

“This case is not about the thousands of people peacefully protesting,” Deputy City Attorney Naomi Sheffield wrote. “It is also not about hateful words or anti-police protests. The City and PPB support protestors’ expression, regardless of content. This case is about the ability of PPB to respond to a nightly deluge of dangerous objects thrown and launched at them and at occupied buildings, nightly fires, and widespread criminal activity.”

The estimated cost of the damage of rioting, looting, and violence is approximately $4.8 million. The cost of police overtime has reached 7 million dollars. This does not count the human cost to police officers.

More than 32 officers also have been injured, many from items thrown at them, including rocks, glass bottles, frozen water bottles, soup or beer cans, fireworks, bricks and steel pellets from sling shots, the court papers said.<

One fire medic was struck in the stomach by a rock launched about one city block away, Simmons wrote. The front of an officer’s uniform caught on fire and another officer required stitches after being hit in the face from a projectile, according to the city.

Don’t Shoot Portland wants to ban the use of Impact Munitions, and Chemical agents no matter how violent the mob becomes. My suggestion would be that judges not grant bail for anyone arrested for a felony-arson, riot, or throwing dangerous objects. Tagging buildings with spray paint that costs more than $700 to clean up is also a felony. That would thin the herd a bit, in a much more benign way for both officers, and someone who might catch an impact munition in the groin.

Beans and wieners every night for several months as a guest of the county might reduce the participants. I’m sure there would be some whining about no turndown service, and no chocolate mints placed on a pillow in their cell.

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  1. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
    Bryan G. Stephens Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    This is nuts.

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    • July 9, 2020, at 4:54 PM PDT
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  2. PHCheese Member

    Remind everyone you know this is now the Democratic Party.

    • #2
    • July 9, 2020, at 5:02 PM PDT
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  3. Richard Fulmer Member

    Doug Watt: Someone on the city council is starting to see that 30 days plus of criminal behavior in downtown Portland may create an exodus of businesses, as well as condo owners that have paid an exorbitant of money to work, and live in downtown

    I wonder if these refugees have learned anything or if they’ll just try to transplant their left-wing politics elsewhere. 

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    • July 9, 2020, at 5:19 PM PDT
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  4. Django Member

    Richard Fulmer (View Comment):

    Doug Watt: Someone on the city council is starting to see that 30 days plus of criminal behavior in downtown Portland may create an exodus of businesses, as well as condo owners that have paid an exorbitant of money to work, and live in downtown

    I wonder if these refugees have learned anything or if they’ll just try to transplant their left-wing politics elsewhere.

    You know the answer. Those people will never admit to any connection between the way they vote and the results they get. It’s always someone else’s fault.

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    • July 9, 2020, at 5:41 PM PDT
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  5. Doug Watt Moderator
    Doug Watt

    Django (View Comment):

    Richard Fulmer (View Comment):

    Doug Watt: Someone on the city council is starting to see that 30 days plus of criminal behavior in downtown Portland may create an exodus of businesses, as well as condo owners that have paid an exorbitant of money to work, and live in downtown

    I wonder if these refugees have learned anything or if they’ll just try to transplant their left-wing politics elsewhere.

    You know the answer. Those people will never admit to any connection between the way they vote and the results they get. It’s always someone else’s fault.

    Or they didn’t do enough, we need someone like Stalin. 

     

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    • July 9, 2020, at 5:43 PM PDT
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  6. James Gawron Thatcher
    James Gawron Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Doug,

    Why those cute little rioters just want to make a statement. So they intend to burn buildings down and assault people in the street. Take it easy. You wouldn’t want to hurt these gentle sensitive souls as they attack police while they are constantly screaming obscenities.

    Have a heart. Sure they deserve a serious crack in the face with a Louisville Slugger but let’s not rub them the wrong way. Instead of riot gear, the cops should bring hot cocoa and stuffed animals. Give them a nice time out and they’ll be right as rain.

    …hmmm…now, where did I put my Louisville Slugger?…

    Regards,

    Jim

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    • July 9, 2020, at 5:43 PM PDT
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  7. TBA Coolidge
    TBA

    I can’t say I’m an expert in the law, but do judges have the right to issue restraining orders against a police department? 

    And if they can, can they just order them not to show up in the first place? 

    And why are police showing up for this? 

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    • July 9, 2020, at 5:54 PM PDT
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  8. Percival Thatcher
    Percival Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    How do they expect to get control of the city back? How many businesses need to close down or move out before they start to worry?

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    • July 9, 2020, at 5:55 PM PDT
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  9. Al French of Damascus Moderator

    Percival (View Comment):

    How do they expect to get control of the city back? How many businesses need to close down or move out before they start to worry?

    I don’t think they have a plan to get control of the city back. I think they are just waiting for the protests to fizzle out. It could be a long summer.

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    • July 9, 2020, at 7:07 PM PDT
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  10. Percival Thatcher
    Percival Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Al French of Damascus (View Comment):

    Percival (View Comment):

    How do they expect to get control of the city back? How many businesses need to close down or move out before they start to worry?

    I don’t think they have a plan to get control of the city back. I think they are just waiting for the protests to fizzle out. It could be a long summer.

    Then it really will be Detroit on the Williamette. By spring.

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    • July 9, 2020, at 7:11 PM PDT
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  11. Doug Watt Moderator
    Doug Watt

    I would like everyone to read the entire article that I linked to, to include the still photos that are included in the article. The PPB, the Multnomah County deputies, and the Feds have been fighting the good fight every night since May 29th without the support of the city, county, and the state government in Oregon

    I find it depressing that the rioters have been elevated, and nothing the media, and the politicians say will ever diminish my respect for the cops that stand against the mob night after night.

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    • July 9, 2020, at 7:26 PM PDT
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  12. Percival Thatcher
    Percival Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Doug Watt (View Comment):

    I would like everyone to read the entire article, to include the still photos that are included in the article. The PPB, the Multnomah County deputies, and the Feds have been fighting the good fight every night since May 29th without the support of the city, county, and the state government in Oregon

    I find it depressing.

    It very much is depressing, as is this: the reason for the the “protests” is police killing civilians, so obviously taking non-lethal means away from the police is a good idea.

     

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    • July 9, 2020, at 7:33 PM PDT
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  13. Django Member

    Doug Watt (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):

    Richard Fulmer (View Comment):

    Doug Watt: Someone on the city council is starting to see that 30 days plus of criminal behavior in downtown Portland may create an exodus of businesses, as well as condo owners that have paid an exorbitant of money to work, and live in downtown

    I wonder if these refugees have learned anything or if they’ll just try to transplant their left-wing politics elsewhere.

    You know the answer. Those people will never admit to any connection between the way they vote and the results they get. It’s always someone else’s fault.

    Or they didn’t do enough, we need someone like Stalin.

    True. Some people were claiming Hillary lost to Trump because she didn’t go far enough left. 

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    • July 9, 2020, at 7:46 PM PDT
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  14. tigerlily Member

    Doug Watt:

    Don’t Shoot Portland wants to ban the use of Impact Munitions, and Chemical agents no matter how violent the mob becomes. My suggestion would be that judges not grant bail for anyone arrested for a felony-arson, riot, or throwing dangerous objects. Tagging buildings with spray paint that costs more than $700 to clean up is also a felony. That would thin the herd a bit, in a much more benign way for both officers, and someone who might catch an impact munition in the groin.

    Beans and wieners every night for several months as a guest of the county might reduce the participants. I’m sure there would be some whining about no turn down service, and no chocolate mints placed on a pillow in their cell.

    I don’t understand (well yes I do) why these Lefty-run cities don’t make use of the ability to jail people who act in this fashion. They need to pay a price for their behavior or they’ll just keep it up.

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    • July 9, 2020, at 7:56 PM PDT
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  15. Richard Fulmer Member

    Doug Watt (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):

    Richard Fulmer (View Comment):

    Doug Watt: Someone on the city council is starting to see that 30 days plus of criminal behavior in downtown Portland may create an exodus of businesses, as well as condo owners that have paid an exorbitant of money to work, and live in downtown

    I wonder if these refugees have learned anything or if they’ll just try to transplant their left-wing politics elsewhere.

    You know the answer. Those people will never admit to any connection between the way they vote and the results they get. It’s always someone else’s fault.

    Or they didn’t do enough, we need someone like Stalin.

    Can we quarantine the refugees?

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    • July 9, 2020, at 8:08 PM PDT
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  16. Richard Fulmer Member

    Percival (View Comment):

    Doug Watt (View Comment):

    I would like everyone to read the entire article, to include the still photos that are included in the article. The PPB, the Multnomah County deputies, and the Feds have been fighting the good fight every night since May 29th without the support of the city, county, and the state government in Oregon

    I find it depressing.

    It very much is depressing, as is this: the reason for the the “protests” is police killing civilians, so obviously taking non-lethal means away from the police is a good idea.

    Racist! Logic is a tool of white oppression.

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    • July 9, 2020, at 8:09 PM PDT
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  17. brad2971 Inactive

    Doug Watt (View Comment):

    I would like everyone to read the entire article that I linked to, to include the still photos that are included in the article. The PPB, the Multnomah County deputies, and the Feds have been fighting the good fight every night since May 29th without the support of the city, county, and the state government in Oregon

    I find it depressing that the rioters have been elevated, and nothing the media, and the politicians say will ever diminish my respect for the cops that stand against the mob night after night.

    While I will tip my cap to the police from the aforementioned agencies, I’m wondering if this could have been ended sooner. If, as has been rumored by Rose City Antifa, that the cops in Portland are in league with fascists, why don’t the police in Portland simply turn a blind eye while letting, say, Patriot Prayer engage with the rioters. Of course, that presumes Patriot Prayer is still in the Freikorps wannabe business.

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  18. DonG (skeptic) Coolidge

    More than a million people moved out of Detroit, once it became unsafe. Law and order is hard to get back, once you let the riot genie out of the bottle. I used to think the premise of the movie “The Purge” was dumb. Now, it seems less far-fetched. I used to think the future would be like “Demolition Man”.

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    • July 9, 2020, at 9:51 PM PDT
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  19. StChristopher Member

    I live in Portland and its clear downtown will decline very rapidly. That decline will spread to other parts of the city as well. No one will buy those downtown condos. The metro area just passed a tax on incomes for couples earning over $200,000. Why would anyone of means purposely move to Portland when you could escape state and local income tax by moving across the river to Vancouver, Washington? 

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    • July 9, 2020, at 9:58 PM PDT
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  20. Flicker Coolidge

    Well there is the ‘neutron bomb’ of rioting. Or maybe it’s the opposite. It’s called ‘skunk’ and it’s a non-toxic and seemingly ineradicable smell that’s a cross between that of rotting flesh and poop. The Israeli’s developed it and it works like a charm. But in downtown Portland I think it would leave the streets uninhabitable for days or weeks.

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    • July 9, 2020, at 10:27 PM PDT
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  21. brad2971 Inactive

    DonG (skeptic) (View Comment):

    More than a million people moved out of Detroit, once it became unsafe. Law and order is hard to get back, once you let the riot genie out of the bottle. I used to think the premise of the movie “The Purge” was dumb. Now, it seems less far-fetched. I used to think the future would be like “Demolition Man”.

    Los Angeles after the 1992 riots begs to differ. Even with the Rampart scandal. 

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    • July 9, 2020, at 10:47 PM PDT
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  22. E. Kent Golding Member

    Percival (View Comment):

    Al French of Damascus (View Comment):

    Percival (View Comment):

    How do they expect to get control of the city back? How many businesses need to close down or move out before they start to worry?

    I don’t think they have a plan to get control of the city back. I think they are just waiting for the protests to fizzle out. It could be a long summer.

    Then it really will be Detroit on the Williamette. By spring.

    Detroit hasn’t been Portland stupid or Chicago dangerous for years. It’s bad, but we should no longer be the poster child.

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    • July 10, 2020, at 2:40 AM PDT
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  23. Stad Thatcher

    Doug Watt:

    From the Oregonian:

    U.S. District Judge Marco A. Hernandez on June 9 issued a temporary restraining order restricting Portland police from using tear gas except if lives or public safety are at risk.

    A no-nothing ruling. Lives and safety are always at risk during a riot . . .

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    • July 10, 2020, at 5:07 AM PDT
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  24. Al French of Damascus Moderator

    Flicker (View Comment):

    Well there is the ‘neutron bomb’ of rioting. Or maybe it’s the opposite. It’s called ‘skunk’ and it’s a non-toxic and seemingly ineradicable smell that’s a cross between that of rotting flesh and poop. The Israeli’s developed it and it works like a charm. But in downtown Portland I think it would leave the streets uninhabitable for days or weeks.

    They don’t say what causes the smell, but I bet it is a mercaptan.

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    • July 10, 2020, at 11:32 AM PDT
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  25. Cow Girl Thatcher

    This whole story makes me really sad. Our daughter has lived in Southwest Portland for years. We’ve visited her many times. Portland is/was a great place to visit–fabulous food, quirky stores, nice scenery. I’m sad that the city officials are allowing it to be destroyed. Sad….

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    • July 10, 2020, at 12:29 PM PDT
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  26. Unsk Member

    Los Angeles after the 1992 riots begs to differ. Even with the Rampart scandal. 

    I beg to differ. Los Angeles after the riots in ’92, the Bush Administration taking away 125,000 defense related jobs and Bush Admin. Bank Examiners in their wake cutting commercial loans by 25% or mark to market sent LA into a death spiral. Only the earthquake of ’94 ironically saved us because loans came available again for rebuilding. Property values crashed much harder than 2008-9 and only started to come back in the late 90’s.

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    • July 10, 2020, at 12:38 PM PDT
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  27. Fake John/Jane Galt Coolidge

    Django (View Comment):

    Richard Fulmer (View Comment):

    Doug Watt: Someone on the city council is starting to see that 30 days plus of criminal behavior in downtown Portland may create an exodus of businesses, as well as condo owners that have paid an exorbitant of money to work, and live in downtown

    I wonder if these refugees have learned anything or if they’ll just try to transplant their left-wing politics elsewhere.

    You know the answer. Those people will never admit to any connection between the way they vote and the results they get. It’s always someone else’s fault.

    There answer is always the same. Find some Republicans in office and blame them.

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    • July 10, 2020, at 12:41 PM PDT
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  28. brad2971 Inactive

    Unsk (View Comment):

    Los Angeles after the 1992 riots begs to differ. Even with the Rampart scandal.

    I beg to differ. Los Angeles after the riots in ’92, the Bush Administration taking away 125,000 defense related jobs and Bush Admin. Bank Examiners in their wake cutting commercial loans by 25% or mark to market sent LA into a death spiral. Only the earthquake of ’94 ironically saved us because loans came available again for rebuilding. Property values crashed much harder than 2008-9 and only started to come back in the late 90’s.

    Compared to Detroit, St Louis, Pittsburgh, even NYC after the ’70s and ’80s crime wave, Los Angeles recovered fairly quickly.

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    • July 10, 2020, at 12:44 PM PDT
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  29. Django Member

    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):

    Richard Fulmer (View Comment):

    Doug Watt: Someone on the city council is starting to see that 30 days plus of criminal behavior in downtown Portland may create an exodus of businesses, as well as condo owners that have paid an exorbitant of money to work, and live in downtown

    I wonder if these refugees have learned anything or if they’ll just try to transplant their left-wing politics elsewhere.

    You know the answer. Those people will never admit to any connection between the way they vote and the results they get. It’s always someone else’s fault.

    There answer is always the same. Find some Republicans in office and blame them.

    Somehow that always works. BTW, that idiot in Chicago is blaming lack of federal funds/help for the crime in her city.

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  30. TBA Coolidge
    TBA

    brad2971 (View Comment):

    Unsk (View Comment):

    Los Angeles after the 1992 riots begs to differ. Even with the Rampart scandal.

    I beg to differ. Los Angeles after the riots in ’92, the Bush Administration taking away 125,000 defense related jobs and Bush Admin. Bank Examiners in their wake cutting commercial loans by 25% or mark to market sent LA into a death spiral. Only the earthquake of ’94 ironically saved us because loans came available again for rebuilding. Property values crashed much harder than 2008-9 and only started to come back in the late 90’s.

    Compared to Detroit, St Louis, Pittsburgh, even NYC after the ’70s and ’80s crime wave, Los Angeles recovered fairly quickly.

    California has some industries that won’t hemorrhage despite the best efforts of the libs and it’s got really nice weather. 

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