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Discuss: Brandishing a Gun in a Gated Community
This is very interesting. This is either a gated community or an estate. Is the wife going to get in trouble for brandishing a weapon? I don’t know the law. What would you do?
Further context shows that the protesters were trespassing on a private street when the St. Louis couple pulled out their guns to defend their home
pic.twitter.com/RDRaGOydGW— Daily Caller (@DailyCaller) June 29, 2020
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Published in Law
This is the eternal question, isn’t it? Revolver or semi-automatic?
I used to teach defensive shooting classes, a long time ago, and I’ve always recommended revolvers for most people. Yes, revolvers can break down just as semi-autos can break down, but I’m convinced that most people who buy a gun for home defense will stop shooting soon after getting it, and will leave it sitting on a shelf or in a safe until the day they need it. Given the fact that they’ll fire it rarely and hardly strain the weapon, failures are far more likely to be the result of operator error than mechanical issues. And there just aren’t many errors an operator of a revolver can make.
Barring the relatively rare mechanical failure, the worst that’s likely to happen to a revolver is a stovepiped case under the extractor star. That’s bad: it’s hard to fix quickly, triply so in a dark hallway in the dead of night. But that only occurs after you’ve fired all six chambers, and it’s a rare civilian shooting encounter that involves six shots being fired.
(Having said that: if you anticipate being in a gunfight that will require that you fire more than six shots, then sure, get a Glock. And a shotgun.)
In contrast, a semi-automatic in the hands of a stressed-out novice might well fail because the safety is still on. It may not have a round chambered. It might not be cocked. The magazine might be incompletely inserted. The magazine might be dumped accidentally by a nervous user. It may stovepipe after the first shot (though I wonder if stressed shooters perhaps have a tighter grip and so maybe don’t limp-wrist it as often, resulting in more reliable cycling). It may misfeed after the first shot. There are just more things to go wrong: that higher capacity and far cooler action comes with a burden of extra responsibility.
I’ve put thousands of rounds through my S&W 686 (my favorite revolver, period) without malfunction, and with no servicing beyond cleaning and oiling. In the real world, most people aren’t going to do a lot of shooting. For those people, the first shot they take with a revolver will be the most reliable trigger-pull they’ll have; the next five will be only slightly less so. After that, if it comes to that, yes, they probably should have a semi-automatic.
@henryracette Thank you, Very interesting,
He’s right.
And please tell me that the publisher has withdrawn the book on Mary Todd Lincoln because the author is so clearly fact-challenged (confusing automatic and semi-automatic weapons). Suggests that “facts” in the biography are likely wrong.
Maybe it worked out better for him to appear a bit on the edgy side instead of cool calm and collective — he is more unpredictable.
Off topic, but I would like to hear the woman who took down the protesters at the Teddy Roosevelt statue in NYC and the man at the Lincoln statue in DC.
Why would you not have cameras at your house nowadays. I have 10 at the moment and will add more. The world is too dangerous not to be watchful.
Nope, he is white so he is wrong. He might get off being a rich connected liberal but it is doubtful.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/06/st-louis-circuit-attorney-threatens-take-action-couple-protected-home-protest-mob-private-street/?ff_source=Twitter&ff_campaign=websitesharingbuttons
Both?
Well, yes. And preferably several of each.
But, again, for the unpracticed citizen seeking a practical means of home defense, I choose the revolver. Or the shotgun. I like shotguns a lot.
– C. T. Law, Urban Paramilitary Accouterments Consultant
Now that she’s done talking about the First Amendment she might want to scroll down the next one.
Zerohedge has a very good summary / update including this. lol:
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/gun-toting-st-louis-lawyers-defend-mansion-blm-protesters-viral-video
Tucker Carlson featured the incident in his show last night.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/wtPXZFCRVID1/
Senator Braun does not understand Georgia use of force laws. He didn’t even bother to look at them. That cop did nothing wrong. It just disgusts me when politicians and lawyers lie about the justice system.
The “peaceful protestors” smashed a metal gate to gain access to the property.
This is intentional by the Left. They just repeat the lie over and over. The uninformed are convinced with the endless repetition. Just like the “Assault Rifle” BS.
Tucker said there were approximately 500 “protesters.” 500(???) threatening mayhem and death.
The McCloskeys were not only under-trained, they were seriously under-armed!! A lesson to all of us — Buy More Guns and Ammo (BMGAA) and get out to the range.
Jonathan Turley. It sounds like the prosecutor would have a tough go, because the Castle doctrine is so strong there.
https://jonathanturley.org/2020/06/30/yes-the-st-louis-couple-could-be-criminally-charged-but-it-would-be-no-slam-dunk-prosecution/
I suspect people will be destroyed as we figure this one out.
Attorney Andrew Branca will be doing a facebook live discussion today of this at noon
https://www.facebook.com/LawofSelfDefense/
Noon MDT; 2pm EDT
I highly recommend Andrew Branca’s Law of Self Defense website. He makes you think about it before hand. Lots of good material on his website and in his books/videos – he is an attorney that specialized in Use of Force law only, very well informed and easy to listen to…