Recommended by Ricochet Members Created with Sketch. Minneapolis ‘Disband the Police’; Council Members Using Private Security

 

Minneapolis Police
We’ll protect you! We’ll protect you real good!
No, seriously, look:

The City of Minneapolis is spending $4,500 a day for private security for three council members who have received threats following the police killing of George Floyd, FOX 9 has learned.

A city spokesperson said the private security details have cost taxpayers $63,000 over the past three weeks.

The three council members who have the security detail – Andrea Jenkins (Ward 8), and Phillipe Cunningham (Ward 4), and Alondra Cano (Ward 9)– have been outspoken proponents of defunding the Minneapolis Police Department.

Can’t imagine why they wouldn’t just get police protection.

Maybe if we can talk Lileks down from the bell tower they will feel safer.

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  1. Percival Thatcher
    Percival Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    So if a “protest” were to gather outside of where the council members lived, they will have the private security, but no ability to disperse the protest — private security having no arrest authority. Unless of course, somebody calls a cop. 

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    • June 27, 2020, at 6:29 PM PDT
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  2. Sisyphus (hears Xi laughing) Coolidge
    Sisyphus (hears Xi laughing) Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Percival (View Comment):

    So if a “protest” were to gather outside of where the council members lived, they will have the private security, but no ability to disperse the protest — private security having no arrest authority. Unless of course, somebody calls a cop.

    If all of the cops are already protesting…

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    • June 27, 2020, at 6:38 PM PDT
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  3. tigerlily Member

    I was thinking about posting about this subject. Great minds and all that, so I guess the least I can do is like your post Sisyphus.

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    • June 27, 2020, at 7:36 PM PDT
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  4. MichaelKennedy Coolidge

    The LA City Council that is recommending defunding the police have LAPD security teams.

    • #4
    • June 27, 2020, at 7:38 PM PDT
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  5. Bruce Caward Thatcher
    Bruce Caward Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Once again, the Left is full of passionate intensity and noble convictions, as long as it doesn’t have to cost them anything. These people are despicable.

     

    As I said from the start, the way to quell the uprising here in the modern world is to flood the riot/looting areas with drones (and maybe helicopters, for effect). All the cops should go in fully armed, but carrying cameras. They can cover each other while one gets close to the action, snap snap snap.

    Loudspeakers on continuous loop: “We know you’re upset, children. But this is not the way we settle differences in America. Please lay down your weapons and go home.If you’ve broken anything, or painted anything, or stolen anything, we have your picture. We have pictures of everything. We will begin the arrests in the morning.

    ”If you attend a college or university that receives federal funds, and you are convicted of rioting, your college career is over. Please go home. Or stay, and smile for the camera.”

     

    Of course we would then HAVE to prosecute. No other way to keep this from happening over and over.

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    • June 27, 2020, at 7:49 PM PDT
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  6. Jon1979 Lincoln

    This also fits in with Elanor Holmes Norton’s “Where are the police when you need them?” line, when the attacking transvestite almost got to her and Andrea Mitchell during the set up for a live interview at Lafayette Park, were it not for intervention by Andrea’s NBC-funded security team (where NBC’s perfectly within their right to hire their own security. But neither she nor EHN were going on to do a cheerleader routine for the D.C. police, on the day when protestors re-vandalized St. John’s Church and tried to topple the Andrew Jackson statue).

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    • June 27, 2020, at 8:24 PM PDT
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  7. kedavis Member

    What I read today was that the Minneapolis city council voted 12-0 to “defund” the police, and instead create some kind of Social Justice Force or whatever.

    • #7
    • June 27, 2020, at 9:16 PM PDT
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  8. James Lileks Contributor

    The common line on the pro-“defund” side: the police aren’t there to prevent crime, as evidenced by the fact that crime is occurring now. They only show up and take notes and don’t do anything.

    In related news:

    A juvenile was sexually assaulted overnight Thursday at Minneapolis’ Powderhorn Park — the site of growing homeless encampments and in a neighborhood where residents have vowed not to call police.

    The incident happened at one of the park’s encampments, Park and Recreation Board spokeswoman Dawn Sommers said Saturday.

    The people who took the victim to the hospital did not call police, Sommers said. Staff at Abbott Northwestern Hospital called park police early Friday morning.

    You call the police, and someone might get, you know, Justice-System Involved. 

    The community will sort it out. 

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    • June 27, 2020, at 11:43 PM PDT
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  9. kedavis Member

    James Lileks (View Comment):

    The common line on the pro-“defund” side: the police aren’t there to prevent crime, as evidenced by the fact that crime is occurring now. They only show up and take notes and don’t do anything.

    In related news:

    A juvenile was sexually assaulted overnight Thursday at Minneapolis’ Powderhorn Park — the site of growing homeless encampments and in a neighborhood where residents have vowed not to call police.

    The incident happened at one of the park’s encampments, Park and Recreation Board spokeswoman Dawn Sommers said Saturday.

    The people who took the victim to the hospital did not call police, Sommers said. Staff at Abbott Northwestern Hospital called park police early Friday morning.

    You call the police, and someone might get, you know, Justice-System Involved.

    The community will sort it out.

    Hey, Buffy’s “imaginary” sister has done well!

    Actually the police do prevent crimes, of course, but I suppose more often they do arrive on the scene after the fact.

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    • June 28, 2020, at 12:43 AM PDT
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  10. Jon1979 Lincoln

    James Lileks (View Comment):

    The common line on the pro-“defund” side: the police aren’t there to prevent crime, as evidenced by the fact that crime is occurring now. They only show up and take notes and don’t do anything.

    In related news:

    A juvenile was sexually assaulted overnight Thursday at Minneapolis’ Powderhorn Park — the site of growing homeless encampments and in a neighborhood where residents have vowed not to call police.

    The incident happened at one of the park’s encampments, Park and Recreation Board spokeswoman Dawn Sommers said Saturday.

    The people who took the victim to the hospital did not call police, Sommers said. Staff at Abbott Northwestern Hospital called park police early Friday morning.

    You call the police, and someone might get, you know, Justice-System Involved.

    The community will sort it out.

    The question is how fast — the virtue signaling progressives of the past on the Upper West Side of Manhattan were willing to put up with years and years of declining quality of life and rising crime rates to show other New Yorkers and the rest of the world just how gosh-darn caring and compassionate they were before they finally had enough and let the world know they were tired of living in fear. We’re only a month into the current situation, so some of the virtue-signaling residents around Powderhorn Park may be willing to endure a lot more quality-of-life lowering before their fear and anger finally overwhelms their ideology.

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    • June 28, 2020, at 5:24 AM PDT
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  11. Stad Thatcher

    Sisyphus (hears Xi laughing): The City of Minneapolis is spending $4,500 a day for private security for three council members who have received threats

    Is the city going to pay for private security for any citizen receiving a death threat?

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    • June 28, 2020, at 6:25 AM PDT
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  12. tigerlily Member

    kedavis (View Comment):

    James Lileks (View Comment):

    The common line on the pro-“defund” side: the police aren’t there to prevent crime, as evidenced by the fact that crime is occurring now. They only show up and take notes and don’t do anything.

    In related news:

    A juvenile was sexually assaulted overnight Thursday at Minneapolis’ Powderhorn Park — the site of growing homeless encampments and in a neighborhood where residents have vowed not to call police.

    The incident happened at one of the park’s encampments, Park and Recreation Board spokeswoman Dawn Sommers said Saturday.

    The people who took the victim to the hospital did not call police, Sommers said. Staff at Abbott Northwestern Hospital called park police early Friday morning.

    You call the police, and someone might get, you know, Justice-System Involved.

    The community will sort it out.

    Hey, Buffy’s “imaginary” sister has done well!

    Actually the police do prevent crimes, of course, but I suppose more often they do arrive on the scene after the fact.

    Of course the police do prevent crimes – both from just being around and visible and also by investigating crimes and arresting people for said crimes backed up by a legal system is willing to mete out justice.

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    • June 28, 2020, at 7:20 AM PDT
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  13. DonG (skeptic) Coolidge

    Socialism is always about some being more equal than others. Once pricing and markets are destroyed, power is the only currency. 

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    • June 28, 2020, at 9:17 AM PDT
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  14. CarolJoy, Above Top Secret Coolidge

    Bruce Caward (View Comment):

    Once again, the Left is full of passionate intensity and noble convictions, as long as it doesn’t have to cost them anything. These people are despicable.

    As I said from the start, the way to quell the uprising here in the modern world is to flood the riot/looting areas with drones (and maybe helicopters, for effect). All the cops should go in fully armed, but carrying cameras. They can cover each other while one gets close to the action, snap snap snap.

    Loudspeakers on continuous loop: “We know you’re upset, children. But this is not the way we settle differences in America. Please lay down your weapons and go home.If you’ve broken anything, or painted anything, or stolen anything, we have your picture. We have pictures of everything. We will begin the arrests in the morning.

    ”If you attend a college or university that receives federal funds, and you are convicted of rioting, your college career is over. Please go home. Or stay, and smile for the camera.”

    Of course we would then HAVE to prosecute. No other way to keep this from happening over and over.

    Great post, Bruce.

    Also, I think people need to start thinking about using injunctions against each and every governmental activity against the safety of the people, and the economic prosperity of the people.

    Each and every state in the Union has part of its Civil Code devoted to enumerating how any type of activity that causes harm to the citizens can b prosecuted. Since disbanding a police force is indeed an activity falling under that enumeration, we should have people stop their keyboard warrior-ing and actually get something done legally.

    The big trick in the Blue states is making sure that any filing of any injunction to ban the disturbing activity is handled inside a State court wherein there is still a chance of getting either a center of the road or a RW judge.

    @Rodin will tell you there were Democrats attending the Republican organized protests against the shelter in place and mask mandates Governor Gruesom was issuing. So there is even a possibility that if you don’t get a more modern, Sharia law respecting Dem judge, there would be success. And even if not resolved on the side of common sense, once the injunction filing was heard in a Minnesota court, the SCOTUS could become involved.

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    • June 28, 2020, at 12:54 PM PDT
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  15. Eustace C. Scrubb Member

    James Lileks (View Comment):

    The common line on the pro-“defund” side: the police aren’t there to prevent crime, as evidenced by the fact that crime is occurring now. They only show up and take notes and don’t do anything.

    In related news:

    A juvenile was sexually assaulted overnight Thursday at Minneapolis’ Powderhorn Park — the site of growing homeless encampments and in a neighborhood where residents have vowed not to call police.

    The incident happened at one of the park’s encampments, Park and Recreation Board spokeswoman Dawn Sommers said Saturday.

    The people who took the victim to the hospital did not call police, Sommers said. Staff at Abbott Northwestern Hospital called park police early Friday morning.

    You call the police, and someone might get, you know, Justice-System Involved.

    The community will sort it out.

    I assume there are private parks that council members can retreat to, so they can relax and center themselves after a stressful hour of decision making.

     

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    • June 28, 2020, at 1:02 PM PDT
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  16. Western Chauvinist Member
    Western Chauvinist Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    I says to myself, “Self, if we don’t need to fund the po-leese, why do we need to fund the mayor and city council? See? Then the council members wouldn’t need private security, ’cause there wouldn’t be any council members! Two birds, one stone.

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    • June 28, 2020, at 1:19 PM PDT
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  17. CarolJoy, Above Top Secret Coolidge

    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    I says to myself, “Self, if we don’t need to fund the po-leese, why do we need to fund the mayor and city council? See? Then the council members wouldn’t need private security, ’cause there wouldn’t be any council members! Two birds, one stone.

    I like your thinking, I really do!

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    • June 28, 2020, at 1:20 PM PDT
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  18. Richard Fulmer Member

    DonG (skeptic) (View Comment):
    Once pricing and markets are destroyed, power is the only currency. 

    I am absolutely stealing that line!

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    • June 28, 2020, at 1:21 PM PDT
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  19. CarolJoy, Above Top Secret Coolidge

    For anyone interested in going the injunction route, here is a starting place:

    https://www.stevenslee.com/injunctions-a-practical-guide-to-one-of-the-laws-most-powerful-tools/
    Mark D. Bradshaw
    White Paper
    Injunctions – A Practical Guide to the the Most Powerful Tool
    Very few people fully appreciate the powerful and flexible remedy offered by an injunction. Injunctions are extraordinary, both in terms of their timing and their effectiveness. Certain injunctions are issued with a rapidity otherwise unknown in the American legal system. Injunctions frequently have consequences so sweeping that they effectively shut down operating businesses or otherwise affect dramatically the rights of the parties involved in an irreversible manner – even when the requested injunction is refused. SNIP

    Simply put, injunction proceedings are high stakes poker. If a party plays its first hand wrong, the game may be over before another hand is dealt. This article will explore the remedies available in an injunction proceeding, the timing implications involved in either seeking or defending an injunction, and the particular hallmarks incident to various kinds of injunctions.
    The Remedies Available Through An Injunction

    The only limitation on remedies available through an injunction is the creativity of counsel or of the judge hearing the case. Generally speaking, there are two kinds of relief available through an injunction: prohibitory and mandatory. A prohibitory injunction is the most common form of injunction, and directs a party to refrain from acting in a certain manner. Examples of a prohibitory injunction are cease and desist orders (entered against Napster), or an order stopping a bulldozer prior to the razing of an historic building. Injunctions can also be mandatory, however, in which case the court directs a party to take affirmative action. Examples of this kind of injunction were seen in the school integration and busing cases prevalent several decades ago. Whether prohibitory or mandatory, the only limit on the power of the trial judge (other than the role of appeals courts) is that the remedy selected be reasonably suited to abate the threatened harm and that the court be in a position to enforce its own order and assess a party’s compliance.

    Full article available at above link

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    • June 28, 2020, at 1:22 PM PDT
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  20. Henry Castaigne Member

    When I read this headline. I was completely not surprised. Is there a word or phrase that is opposite for shocked? Some dark phrase that means that you completely expect something that should offend you? 

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    • June 28, 2020, at 1:25 PM PDT
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  21. Richard Fulmer Member

    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    I says to myself, “Self, if we don’t need to fund the po-leese, why do we need to fund the mayor and city council? See? Then the council members wouldn’t need private security, ’cause there wouldn’t be any council members! Two birds, one stone.

    Clearly, the mayor and council members in Minneapolis and in a number of other cities have not been doing their jobs. “Defund the Mayor” has a nice ring to it.

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    • June 28, 2020, at 1:28 PM PDT
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  22. Flicker Coolidge

    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    I says to myself, “Self, if we don’t need to fund the po-leese, why do we need to fund the mayor and city council? See? Then the council members wouldn’t need private security, ’cause there wouldn’t be any council members! Two birds, one stone.

    You’re saying… if we don’t need law enforcement… we don’t need a chief executive… which means we don’t have anyone to sign legislation… which means we don’t need a legislature. Hmm. I like that.

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    • June 28, 2020, at 1:30 PM PDT
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  23. Richard Fulmer Member

    Henry Castaigne (View Comment):

    When I read this headline. I was completely not surprised. Is there a word or phrase that is opposite for shocked? Some dark phrase that means that you completely expect something that should offend you?

    How about: “Duh!”

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    • June 28, 2020, at 1:32 PM PDT
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  24. Western Chauvinist Member
    Western Chauvinist Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Richard Fulmer (View Comment):

    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    I says to myself, “Self, if we don’t need to fund the po-leese, why do we need to fund the mayor and city council? See? Then the council members wouldn’t need private security, ’cause there wouldn’t be any council members! Two birds, one stone.

    Clearly, the mayor and council members in Minneapolis and in a number of other cities have not been doing their jobs. “Defund the Mayor” has a nice ring to it.

    Yes, that’s what I’m sayin’. If we don’t like the job the police are doing and can fire them en masse, surely it would be less disruptive to fire the mayor and city council! And then we wouldn’t have to pay them or for their private security either! Win, win.

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    • June 28, 2020, at 1:38 PM PDT
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  25. Western Chauvinist Member
    Western Chauvinist Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    Richard Fulmer (View Comment):

    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    I says to myself, “Self, if we don’t need to fund the po-leese, why do we need to fund the mayor and city council? See? Then the council members wouldn’t need private security, ’cause there wouldn’t be any council members! Two birds, one stone.

    Clearly, the mayor and council members in Minneapolis and in a number of other cities have not been doing their jobs. “Defund the Mayor” has a nice ring to it.

    Yes, that’s what I’m sayin’. If we don’t like the job the police are doing and can fire them en masse, surely it would be less disruptive to fire the mayor and city council! And then we wouldn’t have to pay them or for their private security either! Win, win.

    Someone should start somethin’. Seriously. Make them live by their own logic.

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    • June 28, 2020, at 1:41 PM PDT
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  26. Gumby Mark (R-Meth Lab of Demo… Thatcher

    Why didn’t they hire social workers for the job?

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    • June 28, 2020, at 2:00 PM PDT
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  27. Paul Stinchfield Member
    Paul Stinchfield Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    “Comrades!” he cried. “You do not imagine, I hope, that we pigs are doing this in a spirit of selfishness and privilege? Many of us actually dislike milk and apples. I dislike them myself. Our sole object in taking these things is to preserve our health. Milk and apples (this has been proved by Science, comrades) contain substances absolutely necessary to the well-being of a pig. We pigs are brainworkers. The whole management and organisation of this farm depend on us. Day and night we are watching over your welfare. It is for YOUR sake that we drink that milk and eat those apples.”

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    • June 28, 2020, at 2:06 PM PDT
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  28. Full Size Tabby Member

    James Lileks (View Comment):

    The common line on the pro-“defund” side: the police aren’t there to prevent crime, as evidenced by the fact that crime is occurring now. They only show up and take notes and don’t do anything.

    In related news:

    A juvenile was sexually assaulted overnight Thursday at Minneapolis’ Powderhorn Park — the site of growing homeless encampments and in a neighborhood where residents have vowed not to call police.

    The incident happened at one of the park’s encampments, Park and Recreation Board spokeswoman Dawn Sommers said Saturday.

    The people who took the victim to the hospital did not call police, Sommers said. Staff at Abbott Northwestern Hospital called park police early Friday morning.

    You call the police, and someone might get, you know, Justice-System Involved.

    The community will sort it out.

    I suspect that there are parts of the “community” in which after the community sorts it out there will be a larger number of dead bodies than if the police had been asked to sort it out. Both the parts in which the community is run by the hoodlums who are not afraid of killing each other, and the parts in which the community consists of hunters and other armed law abiding citizens who do not appreciate the hoodlums entering their neighborhood. 

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    • June 28, 2020, at 2:30 PM PDT
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  29. Basil Fawlty Member
    Basil Fawlty Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Is Northern Virginia looking better?

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    • June 28, 2020, at 2:54 PM PDT
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  30. Paul Stinchfield Member
    Paul Stinchfield Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):
    If we don’t like the job the police are doing and can fire them en masse, surely it would be less disruptive to fire the mayor and city council!

    Heh. But how do we fire the vast numbers of liberals who voted for these fools?

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    • June 28, 2020, at 5:23 PM PDT
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