Peggy Noonan, Drudge and Others

 

There’s nothing like getting up on a promising new morning, grabbing a cup of your favorite coffee, and browsing the news only to get depressed within minutes. The Drudge Report is now like forgetting to take out that rotten smelling trash last night. I thought well, the latest story from a respected journalist like Peggy Noonan might freshen the air. No, it belongs in the garbage can with the black banana peels. Trump can’t handle a crisis, his “photo op” at the church was stupid, Joe Biden is way ahead, the country is about to lockdown again, thugs are winning…. I’m ready to go back to bed.

Let’s begin with “Trump can’t handle a crisis” – which crisis would that be Peggy? Was it the three-plus years since Trump was sworn in, where a covert, attempted takedown of his election under the Obama-Biden administration that beat the country’s spirit to a pulp, or how about impeachment over a call to the new Ukrainian president? Was it trying to restore, and succeeding, in resurrecting a failing manufacturing sector, creating new employment opportunities for all, regardless of skin color or gender – was that a crisis?

How about the extraordinary feats during a pandemic of pulling together a medical team of experts to direct the unfolding of this new disease, pulling together major industries to create and manufacture massive supply needs, rushing ships converted into hospitals, supporting governors, closing borders when Biden and Pelosi were crying foul – is that the crisis you meant? Did you regularly check both the CDC and the World Health Organization, as I did, both very late in identifying COVID-19 an actual pandemic, even as Italy was quarantining large segments of the population??

How about handling the multiple crises of burning churches, murders of the innocent at the bar in Florida, the workplace in California, the synagogue in Pittsburgh, or the mass shooting at the high school in Florida? Healing the broken-hearted families, supporting law enforcement, changing antiquated laws, all while the weight of the last administration’s scandalizing antics bearing upon his shoulders, and managing to re-negotiate foreign trade deals, stand up to Iran, North Korea, and support our only true ally in the Middle East, Israel?

Is it not the responsibility of a community, the job of local officials, whether it be medical, civil unrest, poverty, lack of education, environmental safety, and protection of people and property? Do you and others in your field, believe leadership and “handling” of crises is the moral obligation of those we elect to all offices, not just the Oval Office?

The Obama-Biden administration created and left more problems than it ever solved, and a repeat of that is not only undesirable, I believe it will leave the unique and precious story of America, including its struggles and perseverance over adversity, and its ultimate protection of the freedom of the individual, in the garbage dump of history like other once prosperous nations, because of those that failed to protect it.

I offer to you Peggy Noonan, and the rest of the “group think” so-called news reporters, journalists, and naysayers, an uplifting piece written by a local pastor named Ronnie McBrayer as fresh food for thought.

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  1. Randy Webster Inactive
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

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    If Trump wants to see a Republican Governor who is doing well with COVID-19 might I suggest Mike DeWine of Ohio, Larry Hogan of Maryland or Charlie Baker of Massachusetts.

    @garyrobbins do you think Covid-19 is the biggest problem facing the President?

    Yes, because he needs to resolve COVID-19 to be able to fully revive the economy.

    Trump needs to resolve COVID-19?  How is he to do that?  Pull a rabbit out of his hat?  Is he some kind of magician who can wave a wand and come up with a cure?  This is one of the sillier things I’ve seen you say.

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    Even Tucker is losing patience with Trump’s seeming unwillingness to do more than tweet at the mayhem. He’s the CinC, why in hell isn’t he acting like it?

    Probably just what Tucker says, bad advice in the White House. I thought Meadows would do better than this.

     

    I very often agree with Tucker, but not on this.
    They have been trying desperately to bait Trump into over-reach, or something they can portray as an over-reach. There wasn’t a ‘winning’ play here.

    There really was little he could do, and this is already fizzling out, while huge questions are being raised about our city governments. I bet Trump just got about 5% -10%more of the black vote in the last 2 weeks.

     

    I hope and pray you’re right.

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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Peggy Noonan said this:

    “Judgments on the president’s pandemic leadership have settled in. It was inadequate and did harm. He experienced Covid-19 not as a once-in-a-lifetime medical threat but merely a threat to his re-election argument, a gangbusters economy. He denied the scope and scale of the crisis, sent economic adviser Larry Kudlow out to say we have it ‘contained’ and don’t forget to buy the dip. Mr. Trump essentially admitted he didn’t want more testing because it would result in more positives.

    “And the virus rages on, having hit blue states first and now tearing through red states in the South and West—Arizona, Florida, the Carolinas, Texas.” https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-week-it-went-south-for-trump-11593127733

    I don’t see anything inaccurate about what she said. The problem is not the news coverage, the problem is Trump who is generating the news coverage.

    As usual you are a troll.

    In case you and little Peggy didn’t miss it, Trump said every day of his briefings at the height of the pandemic how he regretted all of the deaths. You and little Peggy may think it was disingenuous, but then that just shows what dark souls both of you have.

    As for the gangbusters economy and trotting out Larry Kudlow, I’m sure you and little Peggy would have preferred the economy to be in even worse shape since neither of you wants Trump to be reelected and would prefer a swamp creature like Joe Biden to be in the White House. After all, Biden’s a “moderate” Democrat. Appointing AOC to head up his environmental policy shows just how “moderate” he is. I’m sure you and little Peggy will be only too happy when the US is producing no more fossil fuels and be importing Middle Eastern oil once again so we can have more never-ending wars in that part of the world. The WSJ is neocon central.

    Trump did make mistakes.

    He should have ended all international flights with the first whiff of what was going on in China, but he caught hell from those “moderate” Democrats and called racist, blah, blah, blah. 

    On PPE, he should have been able to use the same war-time powers to produce those here in the US, but then again those who espouse free trade like little Peggy’s WSJ, there is almost no more textile industry in the US these days. So how about some blame for them.

    Trump relied on incompetent governors like Cuomo who would require nursing homes to take in those with the Wuhan virus.

    But none of that is what little Peggy was saying. So, no, I don’t agree with her at all about that.

    As far as “tearing” through red states, it isn’t reality but simply shows your and the press’s prejudices. 

     

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    Even Tucker is losing patience with Trump’s seeming unwillingness to do more than tweet at the mayhem. He’s the CinC, why in hell isn’t he acting like it?

    Probably just what Tucker says, bad advice in the White House. I thought Meadows would do better than this.

     

    I very often agree with Tucker, but not on this.
    They have been trying desperately to bait Trump into over-reach, or something they can portray as an over-reach. There wasn’t a ‘winning’ play here.

    There really was little he could do, and this is already fizzling out, while huge questions are being raised about our city governments. I bet Trump just got about 5% -10%more of the black vote in the last 2 weeks.

     

    I agree with the “no win” aspect of the problems and that they are trying to bait him (he can’t fix in 5 months what they haven’t been able to fix in 50 years) but he needs to cogently make that case repeatedly.

    He better make it perfectly clear just how bad those failing the cities are including the fact that it goes well beyond incompetence.

    I think it would be a really good idea to make that case as he does those rallies around the country to customize them a bit.  If he’s in Chicago area,  have his DOJ and Sept of Ed.  Compile quick,  easy to use stats on say that useless DA Kim Fox (of Juicy Smoke-free fame and who just was ready-elected) how many gun crimes/gun deaths in the city came to her office vs  how many were even prosecuted,  let alone found guilty. 

    Have Betsy DeVoss compile stats of how many years have Chicago, Milwaukee,  Cleveland schools have ranked at the bottom,  how many generations of kids,  that actually graduated,  are competent at grade level.  

    Too few GOP pols make the case,  Trump is better than most.  Brush up the presentations,  add some jumbotron stats like that at those rallies. 

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    Franco (View Comment):

    Peggy Noonan is a good writer but a terribly sloppy thinker. She occasionally has insights, but she often reveals huge logical blind spots. Whether she’s that vacuous or whether she just likes to be accepted by her friends remains a question.

    I am passing it off as being a native of New York (if she still is?) and under the spell of the Cuomo brothers…..

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    SkipSul (View Comment):

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    Even Tucker is losing patience with Trump’s seeming unwillingness to do more than tweet at the mayhem. He’s the CinC, why in hell isn’t he acting like it?

    Probably just what Tucker says, bad advice in the White House. I thought Meadows would do better than this.

     

     

    Bad advice is ultimately just an excuse – it’s still the leader’s call to act or not.

    I don’t dispute this. I think he will act.

    He had better, and soon. This madness has more than the whiff of 1917 or 1932.

    Yes the madness has more than a whiff of the stink of those two years. 

    So many people think the activities since May 31st were all some sort of teenagers en masse having temper tantrums. And the people seem to believe that now that the temper tantrums have died off, the entire episode is over. (If only.)

    That is so far from the truth. These riots were highly coordinated. Cell phones had been distributed to thousands of young punks.  Buses were chartered, and took off from Point A and landed in Point B, where the local populace was then encouraged to loot. And by encouraged, there were reports of the same well dressed men in black who knew exactly how to unlock doors to major store fronts, places like Target, and then let the mobs enter to loot. (Often the looting went on for hours.)

    Then on top of all that, mayors and city council  offered to de-fund the police. As if that was not bad enough, once de-funded, the monies that were freed up were then handed over to God knows who. And we are not talking about a few thousand dollars. In Seattle, we know that 100 million dollars is to go to someone or other in the community who can somehow or other figure out a better way to create a kind loving police force that will simultaneously sing Kumbaya and also indulge young thugs in their desires to act out the part of War Lords.

    If anyone thinking that huge monetary amounts such as we are seeing transferred from police  departments to Marxist groups is an indication that the season of rioting, arson, and murder  and mayhem is going to wind down, I just don’t know what to think  any more. I occasionally write fiction. If I had written these events out as some type of Michael Crichton meets The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse, it would have gone unread  as the plot  would not have been believable.

     

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    Stad (View Comment):

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    If Trump wants to see a Republican Governor who is doing well with COVID-19 might I suggest Mike DeWine of Ohio, Larry Hogan of Maryland or Charlie Baker of Massachusetts.

    @garyrobbins do you think Covid-19 is the biggest problem facing the President?

    Yes, because he needs to resolve COVID-19 to be able to fully revive the economy.

    Then Trump had better head back to the White House basement and work on a vaccine for the virus he invented . . .

    Hey, the President tried to solve COVID – he really did. He mentioned Hydroxychloroquine early on, and that only ensured that the 20 dollar a month remedy became immediately unavailable, at least to those of us who were not doctors with the right connections.

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    If Trump wants to see a Republican Governor who is doing well with COVID-19 might I suggest Mike DeWine of Ohio, Larry Hogan of Maryland or Charlie Baker of Massachusetts.

    Google “Holyoke soldiers home covid deaths” to learn about the 76 elderly vets who died as a result of stupidity and state malfeasance. He takes no responsibility for this, will not fire the people who were in charge, will not even admit to appointing all but a few of them to office.

    And no one stands up to him. No one dares. A gym that opened up was hit with water and electricity shut offs and fines for the owner.

    His only silver lining is that Senile Uncle Joe referred to him a few months ago as “Charlie Parker”, which has become our regular name for the guy.

    He can’t go quickly enough, but he has no intentions of going.

    I admire you completely and I don’t mean this to be unpleasant, but is this his failure or the failure of the Massachusetts doctors who have been advising him?

    I got into a years-long battle with the EPA and the Massachusetts Water Regional Authority (MWRA) as part of an effort to STOP (Stop The Outfall Pipe) sewage discharge nine-mile-long pipe that is in the middle of Boston Harbor now and is discharging the effluent of the 43 cities and towns that make up the Boston metropolitan area. It now pollutes Cape Cod Bay which before this started had pristine waters from which scallops, lobsters, and oysters are fished. So much for the common sense of Harvard and MIT and Woods Hole.

    What I learned was that when a battle takes place in Massachusetts, you are talking about your scientists versus theirs. How is the public to sort that out?

    Run for governor so that your medical opinion is the guiding hand here. Or get the Massachusetts medical societies to speak up against Baker’s advisors if those advisors are wrong.

    I don’t know what else to say as a person outside the field.

    I love Massachusetts. Boston is a small vibrant city, close together and very liberal. I love it, but I don’t miss the bureaucracy, the stupid excise tax and other high taxes.   The Cape is a National treasure, like the Dune Lakes where I now live in NW FL. There has been abnormally high cases of cancer clusters on the Cape for years. I hate to say it but there were Chinese scientists who were expelled from Boston smuggling out vials of who knows what to labs in China, who worked at hospitals, and shady professors who were getting rich off of Chinese deals – yes – the governor needs to open his eyes…………

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51288854

     

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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

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    If Trump wants to see a Republican Governor who is doing well with COVID-19 might I suggest Mike DeWine of Ohio, Larry Hogan of Maryland or Charlie Baker of Massachusetts.

    @garyrobbins do you think Covid-19 is the biggest problem facing the President?

    Yes, because he needs to resolve COVID-19 to be able to fully revive the economy.

    A lawyer’s opinion. Are you still running ads for mesothelioma cases ?  Gary, like the other Democrats, wants to shut down the economy more and even a Great Depression would be worth it to get rid of Trump.  America is to be sacrificed in the great quest to drive Trump from office.  Who  cares if America survives as long as Trump can be facing prison, or some thing?

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    Arvo (View Comment):

    Drudge is basically just a headline aggregator, right? So when Drudge is like the morning trash, it’s because the news is like the morning trash?

    Drudge has almost certainly sold the site and has an NDA to not let on.

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    Franco (View Comment):

    Peggy Noonan is a good writer but a terribly sloppy thinker. She occasionally has insights, but she often reveals huge logical blind spots. Whether she’s that vacuous or whether she just likes to be accepted by her friends remains a question.

    Her insights in 2016 were pretty good. Not since and her treatment of Sarah Palin, who was after all a herald for Trump was awful.

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    UGH! What an awful way to start the day. Drudge always seems to write on the edge but Peggy used to be used to be consistently good. Past tense. 

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    CarolJoy, Above Top Secret (View Comment):

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    If Trump wants to see a Republican Governor who is doing well with COVID-19 might I suggest Mike DeWine of Ohio, Larry Hogan of Maryland or Charlie Baker of Massachusetts.

    @garyrobbins do you think Covid-19 is the biggest problem facing the President?

    Yes, because he needs to resolve COVID-19 to be able to fully revive the economy.

    Then Trump had better head back to the White House basement and work on a vaccine for the virus he invented . . .

    Hey, the President tried to solve COVID – he really did. He mentioned Hydroxychloroquine early on, and that only ensured that the 20 dollar a month remedy became immediately unavailable, at least to those of us who were not doctors with the right connections.

    Actually, my wife and I have been taking it. She was very ill three weeks ago and had 5 negative Covid tests but the doctors  agree she had an aborted case because of the HCQ. She has taken it for years for rheumatoid arthritis. Since she got sick, I have taken it too, even though my own internist (who I’m sure is a Democrat) dismisses it.  When this is all over, it would be interesting to see how many people did take HCQ and what the results were. It will probably be impossible to find an unbiased study.  Such is science these days,

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    MichaelKennedy (View Comment):

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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    If Trump wants to see a Republican Governor who is doing well with COVID-19 might I suggest Mike DeWine of Ohio, Larry Hogan of Maryland or Charlie Baker of Massachusetts.

    @garyrobbins do you think Covid-19 is the biggest problem facing the President?

    Yes, because he needs to resolve COVID-19 to be able to fully revive the economy.

    Then Trump had better head back to the White House basement and work on a vaccine for the virus he invented . . .

    Hey, the President tried to solve COVID – he really did. He mentioned Hydroxychloroquine early on, and that only ensured that the 20 dollar a month remedy became immediately unavailable, at least to those of us who were not doctors with the right connections.

    Actually, my wife and I have been taking it. She was very ill three weeks ago and had 5 negative Covid tests but the doctors agree she had an aborted case because of the HCQ. She has taken it for years for rheumatoid arthritis. Since she got sick, I have taken it too, even though my own internist (who I’m sure is a Democrat) dismisses it. When this is all over, it would be interesting to see how many people did take HCQ and what the results were. It will probably be impossible to find an unbiased study. Such is science these days,

    Were the symptoms like the virus and is she better now? If she has been taking it for arthritis, I was just wondering. So much we don’t know.

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    MichaelKennedy (View Comment):

    Franco (View Comment):

    Peggy Noonan is a good writer but a terribly sloppy thinker. She occasionally has insights, but she often reveals huge logical blind spots. Whether she’s that vacuous or whether she just likes to be accepted by her friends remains a question.

    Her insights in 2016 were pretty good. Not since and her treatment of Sarah Palin, who was after all a herald for Trump was awful.

    Peggy had her pre-2008 election column where she all but endorsed Barack Obama based on his ability to heal the nation, which goes towards her inclination never to get too far out of the conventional wisdom lane. The thing with her is when she runs her pundit car into a ditch or off the side of a mountain, she never, ever goes back to either admit error of due a public self-analysis of why she was previously so wrong.

    William Safire, who famously came out in favor of Bill Clinton over George H.W. Bush in his New York Times column, just as famously admitted he was wrong in that same column space, and in a column where he also branded Hillary Clinton as a congenital liar. A quarter-century later, and its rare to see any pundits on the right who’ve taken a flier on Democratic politicians or ideas ever admit they might have messed up — they just push ahead and hope no one will notice.

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  17. MichaelKennedy Inactive
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    If Trump wants to see a Republican Governor who is doing well with COVID-19 might I suggest Mike DeWine of Ohio, Larry Hogan of Maryland or Charlie Baker of Massachusetts.

    @garyrobbins do you think Covid-19 is the biggest problem facing the President?

    Yes, because he needs to resolve COVID-19 to be able to fully revive the economy.

    Then Trump had better head back to the White House basement and work on a vaccine for the virus he invented . . .

    Hey, the President tried to solve COVID – he really did. He mentioned Hydroxychloroquine early on, and that only ensured that the 20 dollar a month remedy became immediately unavailable, at least to those of us who were not doctors with the right connections.

    Actually, my wife and I have been taking it. She was very ill three weeks ago and had 5 negative Covid tests but the doctors agree she had an aborted case because of the HCQ. She has taken it for years for rheumatoid arthritis. Since she got sick, I have taken it too, even though my own internist (who I’m sure is a Democrat) dismisses it. When this is all over, it would be interesting to see how many people did take HCQ and what the results were. It will probably be impossible to find an unbiased study. Such is science these days,

    Were the symptoms like the virus and is she better now? If she has been taking it for arthritis, I was just wondering. So much we don’t know.

    Her symptoms were pneumonia and low O2 saturation.  Her situation was worsened by an incompetent doctor the first day.  She sounds like a new grad too sure of her own knowledge. She took my wife off her usual meds for her emphysema.  The other doctor took over and probably saved her life. She never had a positive Covid test and has had pneumonia before but not in the last five years,

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    I posted this 3 years ago when Noonan won the Pulitzer. I haven’t followed her since 2008. Her arch from conservative to not conservative would be interesting except that it’s not. 

     

     

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    MichaelKennedy (View Comment):

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    Stad (View Comment):

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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    If Trump wants to see a Republican Governor who is doing well with COVID-19 might I suggest Mike DeWine of Ohio, Larry Hogan of Maryland or Charlie Baker of Massachusetts.

    @garyrobbins do you think Covid-19 is the biggest problem facing the President?

    Yes, because he needs to resolve COVID-19 to be able to fully revive the economy.

    Then Trump had better head back to the White House basement and work on a vaccine for the virus he invented . . .

    Hey, the President tried to solve COVID – he really did. He mentioned Hydroxychloroquine early on, and that only ensured that the 20 dollar a month remedy became immediately unavailable, at least to those of us who were not doctors with the right connections.

    Actually, my wife and I have been taking it. She was very ill three weeks ago and had 5 negative Covid tests but the doctors agree she had an aborted case because of the HCQ. She has taken it for years for rheumatoid arthritis. Since she got sick, I have taken it too, even though my own internist (who I’m sure is a Democrat) dismisses it. When this is all over, it would be interesting to see how many people did take HCQ and what the results were. It will probably be impossible to find an unbiased study. Such is science these days,

    Thank you for the report. I am giving your wife the status of being the first case of HCQ helping to tamp down the COVID who I actually know in some way. The alt media has been pretty good at reporting on how HCQ plus the pack and zinc can bring even critically serious cases of COVID back to life.

    Was you wife the one who recommended the treatment to her doctors? Or did they recommend it to her?

    I know it is not risky as when my first husband was being processed out of the Army in the 70’s, he was one of six people who had malaria that they somehow became  infected with here in mainland US. And HCQ or some relative of the anti malarial  brought him back to life. He did use it several other times when the malaria re-occurred. He always seemed to regain his health immediately and he never mentioned any side effects, nor did I ever notice any. (Plus it is super cheap!)

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    CarolJoy, Above Top Secret (View Comment):

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    If Trump wants to see a Republican Governor who is doing well with COVID-19 might I suggest Mike DeWine of Ohio, Larry Hogan of Maryland or Charlie Baker of Massachusetts.

    @garyrobbins do you think Covid-19 is the biggest problem facing the President?

    Yes, because he needs to resolve COVID-19 to be able to fully revive the economy.

    Then Trump had better head back to the White House basement and work on a vaccine for the virus he invented . . .

    snippedActually, my wife and I have been taking it. She was very ill three weeks ago and had 5 negative Covid tests but the doctors agree she had an aborted case because of the HCQ. She has taken it for years for rheumatoid arthritis. Since she got sick, I have taken it too, even though my own internist (who I’m sure is a Democrat) dismisses it. When this is all over, it would be interesting to see how many people did take HCQ and what the results were. It will probably be impossible to find an unbiased study. Such is science these days,

    Thank you for the report. I am giving your wife the status of being the first case of HCQ helping to tamp down the COVID who I actually know in some way. The alt media has been pretty good at reporting on how HCQ plus the pack and zinc can bring even critically serious cases of COVID back to life.

    Was you wife the one who recommended the treatment to her doctors? Or did they recommend it to her?

    I know it is not risky as when my first husband was being processed out of the Army in the 70’s, he was one of six people who had malaria that they somehow became infected with here in mainland US. And HCQ or some relative of the anti malarial brought him back to life. He did use it several other times when the malaria re-occurred. He always seemed to regain his health immediately and he never mentioned any side effects, nor did I ever notice any. (Plus it is super cheap!)

    She was taking it for rheumatoid arthritis for years.  When the virus appeared and I saw the first reports about HCQ, I called a prescription to a pharmacy  in CA for my son who is a firefighter-paramedic and is an insulin diabetic.  I ordered enough for his whole family in case one of theme got exposed.  I also ordered  some for two of my daughters and my ex-wife who is 80.  I did not recommend taking it prophylactically unless they were exposed. I don’t know if my wife had it  but we both taking HCQ now. The stuff about cardiac risk is politics.

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    CarolJoy, Above Top Secret (View Comment):
    (Plus it is super cheap!)

    Well, that’s the issue, isn’t it?

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