Additional Dispatch from The Genuine War Zone of Seattle

 

Last night, the CHOP Terrorist Mini-State in Capitol Hill, Seattle, became a genuine war zone.  Shots fired, one killed, one injured, and as a result, they now have RIP signs up in the Zone.  The residents of the neighborhood are “on edge” (ya think?!) about the situation, and “city leaders are mum.”

Surviving shooting victim “critical”, and as yet no arrests have been made.  Well, since the police allowed themselves to be stopped and not enter the “zone,” perhaps they will never find the perpetrators; it’s hard to investigate a shooting if you can’t enter the area of the shooting.  Community members outraged and saddened.

Seattle Police are acting like a bunch of wimps as if they know that the government of the city that employs them is on the side of the “alleged” shooters.  Funny thing, if you deny access to the police, there is little chance that the perpetrators will be found.

You asked for it, Seattle Urban Terrorists.  No police for you.  You deserve what happens to you when the chaos you brought into being bites you.  Actions have consequences.

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  1. Fake John/Jane Galt Coolidge
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    RushBabe49 (View Comment):

    Susan, the inference was not that the Seattle Police are wimps. They know that the chief of police and Mayor do not have their backs, and ultimately do not really support them. I don’t understand how anyone can be a Seattle police officer.

    I have no doubt that cops are not wimps.  If this incident involved conservative white males they would be slammed with the full weight of the law with no wiggle room.  The cops are shock troops acting on the orders of their Leftist masters.

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  2. Jon1979 Inactive
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    Sisyphus (hears Xi laughing) (View Comment):

    Capital Hill Anarcho-Terrorists – CHAT

    CHUD — Capitol Hill Unhinged Democrats.

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  3. DrewInWisconsin Doesn't Care Member
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    Susan in Seattle (View Comment):
    It is time for the mayor to deal with this and not further endanger our police, firefighters, and EMTs.

    If she won’t and Inslee won’t, isn’t it time for the President to send in the troops?

    EDIT: Philo at #17 has it covered.

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  4. DrewInWisconsin Doesn't Care Member
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    philo (View Comment):

    Someone needs to get their hands on all of the Mayor’s official phone and communication records. I think there is a lot to this:

    https://img.theepochtimes.com/assets/uploads/2020/06/12/GettyImages-1243949160-700x420.jpg

    In the center, Steve Rogers before he got the super soldier serum.

     

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  5. Doug Watt Moderator
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    The current situation in Portland is somewhat different than Seattle. There is one group that marches into downtown Portland, remains peaceful, and then marches back across the river and goes home.

    There is a second group that engages the police with rocks, bottles, and now slingshots that deliver steel ball bearings into windows, and police officers. They are dispersed with CS, and impact munitions on a nightly basis. A night or so ago one member of the second group was hit in the head with a foam tipped impact munition. Some bleeding and a headache, and the usual whining from the ACLU, and city council followed.

    The media in Portland, as well as the city council is trying to play down the violent crowd by exclaiming how wonderful that meaningful change is coming to Portland, the usual rainbow and unicorns nonsense.

    The city council in Portland is just as crazy as Seattle’s city council, with perhaps one exception. Portland’s city council knows that you cannot pay the bills if downtown is left with nothing more than the commerce generated by anarchist coffee shops. Downtown Portland is in a beautiful location, but the rioters wish to destroy it, and if you ever get the chance to visit downtown Portland-miss it.

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  6. ctlaw Coolidge
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    DrewInWisconsin Doesn't C… (View Comment):
    In the center, Steve Rogers before he got the super soldier serum.

    It’s Anthony Fauci enforcing the quarantine.

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  7. Doug Watt Moderator
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    Tex929rr (View Comment):

    Percival (View Comment):

    lowtech redneck (View Comment):

    Medical Personal have refused to enter without a police presence, and the Chaz idiots are crying about it.

    As I understand it, that is standard operating procedure for both firemen and EMTs. You really can’t expect them to go where the police department can’t guarantee their security.

    Absolutely correct.

    I have been on calls to provide cover for firefighters and EMT’s. In a domestic dispute we would clear the entire house, and one officer would remain with EMT’s to make sure they were not interrupted while they did their job. I never allowed anyone in the household to disappear into another room inside the house. I didn’t like surprises.

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  8. WillowSpring Member
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    The little voice that reads to me (doesn’t everyone have one??) reads the sign on the right of the picture in the OP as “Blam! Blam! Blam!…”

    The voice usually gets it right.

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  9. Tex929rr Coolidge
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    Doug Watt (View Comment):

    Tex929rr (View Comment):

    Percival (View Comment):

    lowtech redneck (View Comment):

    Medical Personal have refused to enter without a police presence, and the Chaz idiots are crying about it.

    As I understand it, that is standard operating procedure for both firemen and EMTs. You really can’t expect them to go where the police department can’t guarantee their security.

    Absolutely correct.

    I have been on calls to provide cover for firefighters and EMT’s. In a domestic dispute we would clear the entire house, and one officer would remain with EMT’s to make sure they were not interrupted while they did their job. I never allowed anyone in the household to disappear into another room inside the house. I didn’t like surprises.

    We have had family members attempt to resume fistfights while being treated.  

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  10. kedavis Coolidge
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    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):

    As I understand it this is just a large block party, music festival, a bit like Woodstock

    A lot of bad stuff happened at Woodstock, too.

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  11. kedavis Coolidge
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    JosePluma (View Comment):

    Capitol Hill Urban Mobilization Project

    Capitol Hill Urban Mobilization Project – Seattle.

    CHUMPS.

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  12. CarolJoy, Above Top Secret Coolidge
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    Jon1979 (View Comment):

    philo (View Comment):

    Someone needs to get their hands on all of the Mayor’s official phone and communication records. I think there is a lot to this:

    It seems the play among some Democrat governors and mayors was to refuse to call in the National Guard while also making their police departments stand down and give the rioters “space to destroy,” which would cause the situation to become so bad that Trump would be forced to act.

    And the act they anticipated the president to take was to seize in the U.S. military in to restore order. This would have then allowed them to play their “Trump the Dictator” narrative all the way to the election.

    Who is the mayor taking orders from? Who is her support network? Who is she coordinating with outside of city business channels?

    But then there is this (same link):

    As the entire nation is about to belatedly discover, federal agents do not need the permission of governors or mayors before they can enter a state or a city to enforce federal laws and arrest those who are breaking them.

    The game of chicken is on. Unfortunately, as I see it, Trump has no reason to act unless the media lets the national outrage meter rise…but the media cannot let that happen without destroying the mayor, the governor, and the whole house of cards in which this “movement” is sheltered. The mayor stacked the deck herself and still dealt herself a losing hand.

    Yep — If Trump sends the troops in, without the public both inside and outside Seattle thinking there is a crisis that neither the mayor nor the governor are handling, he gets pounded as some kind of new Hitler by the media, by Durken, Inslee, and other Democrats around the country, and in all probability by 50-75 percent of the people living inside the CHOP zone, who might be demanding local and/or state officials do something, but would do a 180 due to their ideological beliefs if Trump did something. It’s a likely frog-and-scorpion situation.

    For me, it is reminiscent of the Chamberlain-Hitler appeasement scenario, with Trump playing the part of Chamberlain.

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  13. Jon1979 Inactive
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    CarolJoy, Above Top Secret (View Comment):

    Jon1979 (View Comment):

    philo (View Comment):

    The game of chicken is on. Unfortunately, as I see it, Trump has no reason to act unless the media lets the national outrage meter rise…but the media cannot let that happen without destroying the mayor, the governor, and the whole house of cards in which this “movement” is sheltered. The mayor stacked the deck herself and still dealt herself a losing hand.

    Yep — If Trump sends the troops in, without the public both inside and outside Seattle thinking there is a crisis that neither the mayor nor the governor are handling, he gets pounded as some kind of new Hitler by the media, by Durken, Inslee, and other Democrats around the country, and in all probability by 50-75 percent of the people living inside the CHOP zone, who might be demanding local and/or state officials do something, but would do a 180 due to their ideological beliefs if Trump did something. It’s a likely frog-and-scorpion situation.

    For me, it is reminiscent of the Chamberlain-Hitler appeasement scenario, with Trump playing the part of Chamberlain.

    Ah, but the difference is the media and most of the political leaders of the day gushed over Chamberlain’s actions. Churchill didn’t but he also was part of the same political party as the prime minister. The U.S. system in an election year is vastly different, as would the likely reaction of the people in the zone Trump sent troops into. He’d have the media, all of the key Washington State pols and probably the majority of the people he was supposedly rescuing aligned against him.

    The narrative would end up being 21st Century Hitler destroys Shangra La, unless the news coming out of CHOP gets so awful that no one will buy attacking Trump for stopping the carnage if the mayor and governor refuse to act (which Durken seemed to recognize today was the situation being set up after the second shooting incident, leading her to say that CHOP playtime is over).

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  14. RushBabe49 Thatcher
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    No matter what President Trump does, he is vilified by the press and their lap-dog Democrats, so he should do what he thinks is right and let the devil take the hindmost. 

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  15. Percival Thatcher
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    Jon1979 (View Comment):

    CarolJoy, Above Top Secret (View Comment):

    Jon1979 (View Comment):

    philo (View Comment):

     

    The game of chicken is on. Unfortunately, as I see it, Trump has no reason to act unless the media lets the national outrage meter rise…but the media cannot let that happen without destroying the mayor, the governor, and the whole house of cards in which this “movement” is sheltered. The mayor stacked the deck herself and still dealt herself a losing hand.

    Yep — If Trump sends the troops in, without the public both inside and outside Seattle thinking there is a crisis that neither the mayor nor the governor are handling, he gets pounded as some kind of new Hitler by the media, by Durken, Inslee, and other Democrats around the country, and in all probability by 50-75 percent of the people living inside the CHOP zone, who might be demanding local and/or state officials do something, but would do a 180 due to their ideological beliefs if Trump did something. It’s a likely frog-and-scorpion situation.

    For me, it is reminiscent of the Chamberlain-Hitler appeasement scenario, with Trump playing the part of Chamberlain.

    Ah, but the difference is the media and most of the political leaders of the day gushed over Chamberlain’s actions. Churchill didn’t but he also was part of the same political party as the prime minister. The U.S. system in an election year is vastly different, and would the likely reaction of the people in the zone Trump sent troops into. He’d have the media, all of the key Washington State pols and probably the majority of the people he was supposedly rescuing aligned against him.

    The narrative would end up being 21st Century Hitler destroys Shangra La, unless the news coming out of CHOP gets so awful that no one will buy attacking Trump for stopping the carnage if the mayor and governor refuse to act (which Durken seemed to recognize today was the situation being set up after the second shooting incident, leading her to say that CHOP playtime is over).

    This could be bad. When the police launch an assault, the objective is usually one or more rooms, not city blocks. It might require more force than they are accustomed to employing.

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  16. Jon1979 Inactive
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    RushBabe49 (View Comment):

    No matter what President Trump does, he is vilified by the press and their lap-dog Democrats, so he should do what he thinks is right and let the devil take the hindmost.

    Durken seems to have decided that she can’t spin dead and wounded as part of the kaleidoscope of  excitement that’s  the glorious tapestry of the “Summer of Love” on Capitol Hill, at least among local residents (national progressive Dems and the media outside of Seattle would continue to lap it up, because CUHD’s not negatively impacting their lifestyles). So the fact it’s impossible to deny the growing war zone situation there may force the mayor, with or without the help of the governor, to take care of their Antifa/#BLM radical/local gang problem in the no-go zone before Trump has enough obvious examples of problems to justify federal action.

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  17. Jon1979 Inactive
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    Percival (View Comment):

    Jon1979 (View Comment):

    CarolJoy, Above Top Secret (View Comment):

     

    For me, it is reminiscent of the Chamberlain-Hitler appeasement scenario, with Trump playing the part of Chamberlain.

    Ah, but the difference is the media and most of the political leaders of the day gushed over Chamberlain’s actions. Churchill didn’t but he also was part of the same political party as the prime minister. The U.S. system in an election year is vastly different, and would the likely reaction of the people in the zone Trump sent troops into. He’d have the media, all of the key Washington State pols and probably the majority of the people he was supposedly rescuing aligned against him.

    The narrative would end up being 21st Century Hitler destroys Shangra La, unless the news coming out of CHOP gets so awful that no one will buy attacking Trump for stopping the carnage if the mayor and governor refuse to act (which Durken seemed to recognize today was the situation being set up after the second shooting incident, leading her to say that CHOP playtime is over).

    This could be bad. When the police launch an assault, the objective is usually one or more rooms, not city blocks. It might require more force than they are accustomed to employing.

    True. Seattle could end up with the Philadelphia situation from 35 years ago, where police bombed the MOVE brownstone to scatter the Black Liberation separatists and ended up burning the whole block down. That’s probably not an option, but you could end up with street fighting that looks something like the Symobinese Liberation Army gun battle in the 1970s — also not a great outcome for a hyper-progressive mayor (she might try to get Inslee involved with National Guard troops to aid police, but given his stance on CHAZ/CHOP over the past two weeks to shore up his own progressive bonafieds, the governor’s probably trying to pretend right now he doesn’t even know  Seattle’s in Washington State).

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  18. namlliT noD Member
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    Maybe things are turning around?

    Seattle Times: Seattle will phase down CHOP at night, police will return to East Precinct, Durkan says

    Maybe this dumpster fire has become too messy?

     

     

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  19. Fake John/Jane Galt Coolidge
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    namlliT noD (View Comment):

    Maybe things are turning around?

    Seattle Times: Seattle will phase down CHOP at night, police will return to East Precinct, Durkan says

    Maybe this dumpster fire has become too messy?

     

     

    Nope, let it stay.  Let’s watch this experiment in the new way of governance 

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  20. kedavis Coolidge
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    RushBabe49 (View Comment):

    No matter what President Trump does, he is vilified by the press and their lap-dog Democrats, so he should do what he thinks is right and let the devil take the hindmost.

    But if Trump holds back and the hippies are just killing each other, that’s harder to put on him than if he orders in troops and THEY end up killing hippies.

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  21. Susan in Seattle Member
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    namlliT noD (View Comment):

    Maybe things are turning around?

    Seattle Times: Seattle will phase down CHOP at night, police will return to East Precinct, Durkan says

    Maybe this dumpster fire has become too messy?

    We’ll see.  The dumpster fire is definitely messy.

    This is from her presser today: “No violence is acceptable,” she said. “And we have worked tirelessly to address gun violence.”  She made several comments like this without really digging into the profound effect of a mob overtaking a part of our city.    There were a couple of people who had more sensible things to say and made veiled references to our activist, ineffective, divisive city council that has done nothing to support law enforcement.  They were the ones who had the more important – in my opinion – things to say.

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  22. Tex929rr Coolidge
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    Tex929rr (View Comment):

    Percival (View Comment):

    lowtech redneck (View Comment):

    Medical Personal have refused to enter without a police presence, and the Chaz idiots are crying about it.

    As I understand it, that is standard operating procedure for both firemen and EMTs. You really can’t expect them to go where the police department can’t guarantee their security.

    Absolutely correct.

    I should point out that there is a very practical reason for this beyond just ensuring responder safety.  If an EMT is hurt responding to a call, now the problem is compounded. Most crews are two people; if one is down the other one likely can’t manage two patients.  This rapidly becomes a mass casualty incident, defined as more patients than the resources available can handle.  When testing EMT skills, the first thing candidates are taught to ask the evaluator is “is the scene safe”.  If the answer is no, either fix it (if possible) or back out and stand by.

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