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Undercover NY Post reporter Andy Ngo goes deep

Andy Ngo penetrates CHAZ/CHOP

Some say the press is doing a lousy job, if any, of covering the CHAZ/CHOP rioters kidnapping and robbery of 30,000 Capitol Hill residents. Mayor Durkan’s demented “Summer of Love” statement has received well-earned ridicule and left her complicit in many, many assaults and at least one murder.

Andy Ngo penetrated the police no go zone and reports on his findings in the New York Post:

During five undercover days and nights in the zone, I witnessed a continuing experiment in anarchy, chaos and brute-force criminality. In order to avoid being exposed as a journalist — several reporters have been barred or expelled — I slept and showered outside the zone. (Those inside have no showers but they do have portable bathrooms.) I took meals, and most of my water breaks, elsewhere because I was reluctant to remove my mask and risk being recognized. Every day I entered the zone twice through its semi-porous borders — once in the early afternoon, and again after sundown, staying until the wee hours.

Crime has surged inside and outside the zone.

On Saturday morning, a shooting erupted that left at least one person dead and another injured near a border checkpoint. Police were reportedly met with resistance when they tried to get to the victims, who apparently were then taken in private cars to the hospital. Cops made it into the zone to gather shell casings and evidence, some reports said, as police in riot gear stood at the border.

On Thursday, police arrested Robert James after he left the CHAZ. He is accused of sexually assaulting a deaf woman who was lured inside a tent. The same day, former city council candidate Isaiah Willoughby was arrested on suspicion of starting the arson attack on the East Precinct June 8.

CHAZ occupants, ranging from several hundred to 10,000 depending on the day, with many openly armed, control all of the Capitol Hill neighborhood near downtown. The neighborhood is the heart of Seattle’s gay and counter-culture district, and is densely filled with businesses and apartment buildings. CHAZ now claims all of it.

Before the takeover, violent clashes between rioters and police defending the east precinct resulted in dozens of officers injured by rocks and other projectiles. Protesters and rioters complained of police brutality, leading Seattle Mayor Jenny Durkan and Chief Best to ban cops from using tear gas, pepper spray and flash-bangs for 30 days.

CHAZ is having reverberating effects elsewhere. In the early hours of Thursday morning, Antifa and other left-wing protesters established an “autonomous zone” in downtown Portland, Ore. They stole city and business property to build a wall. At least one protester was seen carrying a rifle. The area was later cleared by police but far-left activists are determined to try again. Protesters in Nashville and other cities have attempted to recreate their own “autonomous zones” modeled after CHAZ but have so far been stopped by law enforcement.

Why have so many jurisdictions worked hard to avoid their own “Summer of Love”?

Durkan has banned the use of tear gas, pepper spray, and flashbangs because the rapists, murders, and thieves of BLM and Antifa expressed outrage at those “extreme” measures.

But there is more:

Those unfortunate enough to have homes or businesses within CHAZ — an estimated 30,000 residents — have no say over their new overlords. Residents have discreetly voiced their concerns to local media. Gunshots and “screams of terror” at night have been reported. A resident of an apartment building came out twice to ask protesters to leave the alley where the entrance is. They brushed him off.

Every business and property inside CHAZ has been vandalized with graffiti. Most messages say some variation of “Black Lives Matter” or “George Floyd,” but other messages call for the murder of police. Most businesses are boarded up. “ACAB” — all cops are bastards, an Antifa slogan — is written over them.

Businesses outside CHAZ are also suffering. Last week, the Trader Joe’s in Capitol Hill announced it was closing immediately and indefinitely because of “safety and security concerns.” Then last Sunday night, around 100 angry protesters sprinted toward a nearby auto repair shop to “rescue” a comrade who had been detained. All it took to sic the mob on the business was one man yelling into a microphone inside CHAZ. According to the police report, the store’s owner, John McDermott, stopped Richard Hanks after he allegedly broke into the business, stole property and tried to start a fire. The owner and his son said they called police “multiple times” but cops and firefighters never responded.

And he gives special attention to Antifa and its little friends:

Left-wing political groups have capitalized on the opportunity to recruit new members. The Democratic Socialists of America features prominently in addition to the Seattle Revolutionary Socialists. But in the absence of any vetting, perhaps intentionally, extremists have also set up shop. One station that operates off-and-on distributes extremist anarchist-communist agitprop — the political ideology of Antifa. In one manual titled, “Blockade, Occupy, Strike Back,” instructions show how to use human shields against police, and make rudimentary “bombs” using light bulbs and paint.

Another booklet is titled “Against the Police and the Prison World They Maintain.” It features short essays on why police, capitalism and the state must be destroyed by any means necessary, including through violence. One section explains how the media are enemies used to “pacify” revolutionaries.

If I were going to organize a “Summer of Love”, I know I’d want these hate clowns to organize it. Not that BLM is any better, their home page promotes the destruction of the traditional family. That objective will not improve the lives of black trapped in the underclass culture.

His report concludes:

What will happen if demands aren’t met? Jaiden Grayson, a young black woman who has developed a large following in CHAZ, told a filmmaker: “Respond to the demands of the people or prepare to be met with any means necessary. … It’s not even a warning. I’m letting people know what comes next.”

So what is Durkan smoking, anyway, and why is Governor Inslee too frightened to act? If they think that what happens in CHAZ stays in CHAZ, they have never met people like Andy Ngo. The people who have been “disempowered”, victimized, robbed, raped, murdered, are the people who voted for and paid taxes to support this mayor and this governor.

I challenge the pollsters to canvas these residents.

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  1. Jules PA Member

    The 30,000 hostages call for action .

    • #1
    • June 21, 2020, at 4:46 AM PDT
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  2. EODmom Coolidge

    Those are the questions the President needs to put to the electorate as he campaigns: how do you want to live – in chaos and anarchy or in civilization? 
    When do the citizens of Seattle get to sequester their taxes for services not provided by police, fire and other responders, utilities, education………

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    • June 21, 2020, at 4:50 AM PDT
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  3. Sisyphus Member
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    EODmom (View Comment):

    Those are the questions the President needs to put to the electorate as he campaigns: how do you want to live – in chaos and anarchy or in civilization?
    When do the citizens of Seattle get to sequester their taxes for services not provided by police, fire and other responders, utilities, education………

    As the information breaks through the media cone of silence, he will need to explain his own inaction as well. Act too early and they will blame him for “needlessly escalating” and if he waits too long they will claim he should have acted sooner. If JSOC hasn’t accumulated its own film library by now, I would be surprised.

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    • June 21, 2020, at 4:57 AM PDT
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  4. Jules PA Member

    Sisyphus (hears Xi laughing) (View Comment):
    If JSOC hasn’t accumulated its own film library by now, I would be surprised.

    I had to look up JSOC. Joint Special Operations Command.

    And yes, they should have a plan to rescue those hostages.

    It reminds me of the Bible story of Jericho, Rahab and the spies.

    Maybe the JSOC rescue begins after 40 days and nights?

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    • June 21, 2020, at 5:18 AM PDT
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  5. Sisyphus Member
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    Jules PA (View Comment):

    Sisyphus (hears Xi laughing) (View Comment):
    If JSOC hasn’t accumulated its own film library by now, I would be surprised.

    I had to look up JSOC. Joint Special Operations Command.

    And yes, they should have a plan to rescue those hostages.

    It reminds me of the Bible story of Jerich, Rahab and the spies.

    Maybe the JSOC rescue begins after 40 days and nights?

    It will occur at a time and in a way that no one expects. Other than that, I will not even speculate.

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    • June 21, 2020, at 5:19 AM PDT
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  6. Front Seat Cat Member

    You cannot rationalize anything taking place in Seattle. The city and state authorities bear the ultimate responsibility for the ruin within their city. If it was the KKK within Chop or some white supremacist group they would have been rightly dismantled. Sickness is evident in the soul of Seattle. It’s incredible to see.

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    • June 21, 2020, at 6:09 AM PDT
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  7. Headedwest Coolidge

    Front Seat Cat (View Comment):

    You cannot rationalize anything taking place in Seattle. The city and state authorities bear the ultimate responsibility for the ruin within their city.

    That’s why Trump has to be very careful about how and when any federal force is applied. He has to have the justification nailed down tight.

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    • June 21, 2020, at 7:57 AM PDT
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  8. RightAngles Member

    EODmom (View Comment):

    Those are the questions the President needs to put to the electorate as he campaigns: how do you want to live – in chaos and anarchy or in civilization?
    When do the citizens of Seattle get to sequester their taxes for services not provided by police, fire and other responders, utilities, education………

    They keep making his campaign commercials for him.

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    • June 21, 2020, at 8:13 AM PDT
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  9. Hammer, The Member

    Inslee is too busy forcing the people in Yakima to wear masks.

    The whole thing is an idiotic joke. 

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    • June 21, 2020, at 9:51 AM PDT
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  10. Ed G. Member
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    Seems like the flood of legit lawsuits over the city abandoning residents of CHOP could cause some serious problems for Seattle as a going concern. How could cases like that business owner fail assuming that the city decided to forgo their basic duty to citizens?

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    • June 21, 2020, at 11:55 AM PDT
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  11. drlorentz Member
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    Seattle has gotten the government it deserves, good and hard. H.L. Mencken is looking down serenely on Seattle with a wry smile.

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    • June 21, 2020, at 12:20 PM PDT
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  12. Jules PA Member

    Sisyphus (hears Xi laughing) (View Comment):

    Jules PA (View Comment):

    Sisyphus (hears Xi laughing) (View Comment):
    If JSOC hasn’t accumulated its own film library by now, I would be surprised.

    I had to look up JSOC. Joint Special Operations Command.

    And yes, they should have a plan to rescue those hostages.

    It reminds me of the Bible story of Jerich, Rahab and the spies.

    Maybe the JSOC rescue begins after 40 days and nights?

    It will occur at a time and in a way that no one expects. Other than that, I will not even speculate.

    I pray for the day. 

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    • June 21, 2020, at 2:40 PM PDT
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  13. CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill Coolidge

    Here are two things that need to happen: someone needs to prosecute any of a number of media outlets for hate speech.

    Last night, I channel surfed and ended up over at MSNBC. It was probably between 12Am and 2Am.

    An African American talk show host was interviewing some AA punk arsed kid. They were really hopping around on the band wagon of how the worst thing that ever happened in the US is the current day, continual pejorative insults white people put out on a daily basis and in a subliminal way that exhibit their total racism.

    Say what? For a moment, I wondered if it had been discovered that Montessori kindergartner manuals now called for teaching the little white kids in those suburban schools to start using the “n” word.

    But no, what they meant was the indecent creation of “Aunt Jemima” as the brand personality for pancake batter and maple syrup. Then the duo devolved into their over the top “academic analysis” and the air waves were filled with the 20 dollar words that were used to describe the hate filled hearts of racist white Americans. The discussion could not be considered anything other than inflammatory.

    We need to crack down on this deplorable use of our air waves. It is hate speech. There is no basis for this. There is no reality of racism reflected in this. Aunt Jemima herself went from a struggling person of color into millionaire status – and that was back in the day when being a millionaire would amount to being a billionaire these days.

    Secondly, we need to rouse the Commander in Chief into action. Our military is well trained. Why he avoided using it, when the 1807 Insurrection Act allows for it puzzles me beyond belief. Trump has once again waffled on needed action.

    The idea that somehow during the rioting of May 31st to June 10th that things would get out of hand and the confrontation between the military and throngs of rioting thugs might bring about bad press is not a very good reason for leaving parts of Minneapolis, NYC, Seattle, LA, and the South Side of Chicago in ruins. I have lived in poor neighborhoods. The trouble makers are usually around 6 percent of all of the residents of those places.

    There is tactical gear that could have have come in handy. Circa 2015-16, our inner “black ops” military more than likely offered this equipment up to ISIS. We all read about the results: a handful of out numbered ISIS soldiers put a significant force of Iraqi soldiers on the run, by blasting them with a microwave device causing the Iraqis to peel off their clothing and run away naked.

    If ever this type of device was needed, it was during the 12 days of rioting. Why do we continue to shell out so much of our budget for military equipment never used for the exact purposes where it would offer actual citizens the most good?

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  14. Sisyphus Member
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    drlorentz (View Comment):

    Seattle has gotten the government it deserves, good and hard. H.L. Mencken is looking down serenely on Seattle with a wry smile.

    Let’s bear in mind that there are families, elderly, small children, and opposition members like Susan in Seattle in the crosshairs as well. These maggots count tenderness toward the innocent and family as bourgeois values to be condemned or exploited. But if you have gotten yourself maimed in a sex change procedure you are their pride and joy. 

    These are terror dogs. They need to be held accountable for their crimes.

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    • June 21, 2020, at 4:27 PM PDT
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  15. Jon1979 Lincoln

    Headedwest (View Comment):

    Front Seat Cat (View Comment):

    You cannot rationalize anything taking place in Seattle. The city and state authorities bear the ultimate responsibility for the ruin within their city.

    That’s why Trump has to be very careful about how and when any federal force is applied. He has to have the justification nailed down tight.

    In a way, the justification for Trump to intervene is the same bottom line metric as the left faces for justification for rolling back the recent COVID-19 easings to the draconian levels of March and April, which is dead people.

    The left is hyperventilating about the uptick in coronavirus cases right now, but people are going to resist renewed shutdowns unless the death rate from COVID takes a major spike up towards the levels of NYC 2-3 months ago. Same deal for Trump sending troops into CHAZ/CHOP — Durken and Inslee are hoping (in the most benign interpretation) that the far left protests will peter out on their own and that they’ll go away sometime in the next few weeks or months without them having to do anything. And the public in Seattle and elsewhere likely are not going to get collectively outraged about CHAZ/CHOP’s continued existence if they’re just play-acting as revolutionaries. It sucks for the people living or working inside or near that zone, but it’s Seattle’s problem.

    That changes if the events of late Friday night/early Saturday become the norm, and especially if it’s not just angry activists or gang members being shot and killed, but local residents or business owners. If the general public nationally starts hearing stories that make CHAZ/CHOP sound like a bad version of Juarez a decade ago, where the murder rate at one point hit seven per day in a city of 2 million, and Durken and Inslee still refuse to act, that’s when Trump would be able to send in troops without worries of blowback. The usual suspects would still be outraged, but they’d be demanding a bloodbath continue.

     

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    • June 21, 2020, at 4:37 PM PDT
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  16. Gary Robbins Reagan

    We need Douglas MacArthur.

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    • June 21, 2020, at 7:21 PM PDT
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  17. Richard Fulmer Inactive

    Here are a couple of other snippets from Andy Ngo’s article:

    Though CHAZ claims to have no rules, it quickly developed a complex code of conduct that varied from zone to zone and even the time of the day. For example, those in the garden area, who are mostly white, need to make sure they do not “recolonize” the space.

    Next to the tents in Cal Anderson Park, denizens have started rudimentary “farms” to grow lettuce and herbs. One farm is only for “black and indigenous folks.” Those looking to make new friends can sit on one of the many sofas at the “Decolonization Conversation Cafe.” Free coffee is served.

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  18. philo Member

    Richard Fulmer (View Comment): One farm is only for “black and indigenous folks.”

    By the end of the week they will be setting up their own drinking fountains. 

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    • June 21, 2020, at 7:28 PM PDT
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  19. Jon1979 Lincoln

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    We need Douglas MacArthur.

    MacArthur and Hoover caught a ton of grief over how the Bonus Marchers were handled by his troops — have a 2020 MacArthur pull something similar and they’d be drummed out of the military and probably brought up on murder charges (while the guy who ordered modern-day MacArthur to act would likely have Adam Schiff screaming for impeachment again).

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    • June 21, 2020, at 7:29 PM PDT
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  20. drlorentz Member
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    Sisyphus (hears Xi laughing) (View Comment):

    drlorentz (View Comment):

    Seattle has gotten the government it deserves, good and hard. H.L. Mencken is looking down serenely on Seattle with a wry smile.

    Let’s bear in mind that there are families, elderly, small children, and opposition members like Susan in Seattle in the crosshairs as well. These maggots count tenderness toward the innocent and family as bourgeois values to be condemned or exploited. But if you have gotten yourself maimed in a sex change procedure you are their pride and joy.

    These are terror dogs. They need to be held accountable for their crimes.

    I understand that. It’s my understanding that the Capitol Hill neighborhood is the the hipster district. Regarding Susan in Seattle in particular, I’m assured she is at a good, safe distance.

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    • June 21, 2020, at 8:00 PM PDT
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  21. Terry Mott Member

    Sisyphus (hears Xi laughing):

    And he gives special attention to Antifa and its little friends:

    Left-wing political groups have capitalized on the opportunity to recruit new members. The Democratic Socialists of America features prominently in addition to the Seattle Revolutionary Socialists. But in the absence of any vetting, perhaps intentionally, extremists have also set up shop… [emphasis added]

    So “The Democratic Socialists of America” and the “Seattle Revolutionary Socialists” are not extremists, according to Mr. Gno. I’m not sure how much that says about Mr. Gno and how much it says about Seattle and the Pacific Northwest in general, but it says nothing good.

    The neighborhood is the heart of Seattle’s gay and counter-culture district…

    This largely confirms my previous suspicion that the residents of CHAZ/CHOP are just the sort of people who reliably cheer for groups like Antifa and consider anyone to the right of AOC and Bernie Sanders to be a deplorable reactionary.

    I have already expressed in other threads my opinion that the rest of the country should do nothing to intervene. Let them stew in their own juices.

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  22. Doctor Robert Member

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    We need Douglas MacArthur.

    Actually, I think we need Donald Trump. I don’t understand his reluctance to act. There should be a tank on every street corner (there’s only a dozen intersections, including those around the park), an armed infantryman in front of every store, and a bucket-brigade of paddy wagons carrying the insurrectionists off to jail.

    One supposes that this would require cooperation from the local authorities, however.

     

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  23. Sisyphus Member
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    drlorentz (View Comment):
    I understand that. It’s my understanding that the Capitol Hill neighborhood is the the hipster district. Regarding Susan in Seattle in particular, I’m assured she is at a good, safe distance.

    I realize that. But that does not mean that people not in sympathy with the circus Mayor Durkan is supporting in their neighborhood, whether they live there, have relatives there, work there, or own a business there, are all potential allies in the recasting of Seattle as an American city rather than a Communist ghetto. 

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  24. Sisyphus Member
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    Terry Mott (View Comment):

    So “The Democratic Socialists of America” and the “Seattle Revolutionary Socialists” are not extremists, according to Mr. Gno. I’m not sure how much that says about Mr. Gno and how much it says about Seattle and the Pacific Northwest in general, but it says nothing good.

     

    I think Mr. Gno has had a long week and reading too much into one phrase without reinforcement might be unfair. I would certainly ask the question given the opportunity.

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  25. I Walton Member

    How much of this is being reported by the main stream media?

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  26. Sisyphus Member
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    The New York Post reports another CHOP shooting last night:

    At least one person was shot on Sunday night inside Seattle’s autonomous protest zone, where demonstrators have settled during the civil unrest sparked by the death of George Floyd at the hands of police officers.

    The Seattle Police Department said in a tweet at 11:26 p.m. that one person had suffered a gunshot wound while inside the area and that a second shooting may have taken place.

    “Police investigating reported shooting inside CHOP zone,” the department wrote. “One person at HMC with gun shot wound.”

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  27. WilliamDean Coolidge

    Doctor Robert (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    We need Douglas MacArthur.

    Actually, I think we need Donald Trump. I don’t understand his reluctance to act.

    I do. Trump talks tough but isn’t. He has consistently backed down to any real resistance offered him.

    Personally, understanding the optics and the media as they are, I would lay a heavy siege around the area. Make sure you bring enough force to ensure the little Bolivarian cosplayers don’t get any ideas like they could actually survive an open battle. Then let peaceful unarmed individuals leave the zone, but let NOTHING and NOBODY in. Starve ’em out and avoid a direct conflict until they break.

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  28. Ed G. Member
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    WilliamDean (View Comment):

    Doctor Robert (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    We need Douglas MacArthur.

    Actually, I think we need Donald Trump. I don’t understand his reluctance to act.

    I do. Trump talks tough but isn’t. He has consistently backed down to any real resistance offered him.

    Personally, understanding the optics and the media as they are, I would lay a heavy siege around the area. Make sure you bring enough force to ensure the little Bolivarian cosplayers don’t get any ideas like they could actually survive an open battle. Then let peaceful unarmed individuals leave the zone, but let NOTHING and NOBODY in. Starve ’em out and avoid a direct conflict until they break.

    William, you would lay siege to an American city whose representatives and officials say that no siege is necessary? If you understood optics and the media then you would know that the move you are counseling would be taken as authoritarian overreach. It would be different if local officials were to ask for help. It would be different if local officials were defying federal law (like school integration back in the 50’s). For me there are several serious boxes that need to be checked off before I would support the feds plunging in unwanted.

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  29. Ed G. Member
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    Doctor Robert (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    We need Douglas MacArthur.

    Actually, I think we need Donald Trump. I don’t understand his reluctance to act. There should be a tank on every street corner (there’s only a dozen intersections, including those around the park), an armed infantryman in front of every store, and a bucket-brigade of paddy wagons carrying the insurrectionists off to jail.

    One supposes that this would require cooperation from the local authorities, however.

     

    I understand his reluctance, if that’s what it is. I think more like forbearance and respect for federalism/subsidiarity. Your last sentence is key. Tanks on every corner might be overreach even if the local officials thought they needed federal help, even if local officials thought anything was majorly wrong.

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  30. WilliamDean Coolidge

    Ed G. (View Comment):

    WilliamDean (View Comment):

    Doctor Robert (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    We need Douglas MacArthur.

    Actually, I think we need Donald Trump. I don’t understand his reluctance to act.

    I do. Trump talks tough but isn’t. He has consistently backed down to any real resistance offered him.

    Personally, understanding the optics and the media as they are, I would lay a heavy siege around the area. Make sure you bring enough force to ensure the little Bolivarian cosplayers don’t get any ideas like they could actually survive an open battle. Then let peaceful unarmed individuals leave the zone, but let NOTHING and NOBODY in. Starve ’em out and avoid a direct conflict until they break.

    William, you would lay siege to an American city whose representatives and officials say that no siege is necessary? If you understood optics and the media then you would know that the move you are counseling would be taken as authoritarian overreach. It would be different if local officials were to ask for help. It would be different if local officials were defying federal law (like school integration back in the 50’s). For me there are several serious boxes that need to be checked off before I would support the feds plunging in unwanted.

    I was merely stating my preferred solution to the dilemna. I was not trying to assert where the authorizations should or shouldn’t come from. Sorry if I was unclear.

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