Recommended by Ricochet Members Created with Sketch. Mordechai Would Not Kneel

 

“And all the king’s servants who were in the king’s gate would kneel and prostrate themselves before Haman . . . but Mordecai would neither kneel nor prostrate himself.” (Esther 3:2)

Lately we have seen more and more people getting down on one knee (or two) seeking forgiveness of the mob and some kiss the boots or wash the feet of its representatives. There are plenty of photos and videos you can access on this subject.

The mayor of Los Angeles has gotten into the act.

Amazon is on board.

And the NFL is doing a mea culpa:

“We, the National Football League, believe that black lives matter.”

I could put up dozens of photos and video clips of police kneeling. It makes me physically ill to look at them, however, and I won’t subject you to them here.

If Democrats and BLM rise to power and take control of our cities, schools, and corporations, it will soon be mandatory to kneel and kiss boots on demand, or maybe doing so will become a voluntary gesture of respect for our tyrannical leaders.

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  1. Flicker Coolidge

    “Yet I have reserved seven thousand in Israel, all whose knees have not bowed to Baal, and every mouth that has not kissed him.”

    Today some force, or ask forcefully, others to kiss their boots, and kneel before them. And to swear affirmations while kneeling. Many would dismiss this as benign nonsense. But I would say it is old school fealty and worship.

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    • June 8, 2020, at 12:56 AM PDT
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  2. Arahant Member

    JoshuaFinch: I could put up dozens of photos and video clips of police kneeling. It makes my physically ill to look at them, however, and I won’t subject you to them either.

    Thank you!


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    • June 8, 2020, at 12:58 AM PDT
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  3. Fake John/Jane Galt Coolidge

    Sadly I see this coming to HR departments. A requirement to been knee and apologize to BLM, and minorities. This is a backlash for Trump and GOP leadership.

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    • June 8, 2020, at 1:11 AM PDT
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  4. Arahant Member

    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):

    Sadly I see this coming to HR departments. A requirement to been knee and apologize to BLM, and minorities. This is a backlash for Trump and GOP leadership.

    That would make some of us unemployable…er, more unemployable than we were before.

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    • June 8, 2020, at 1:14 AM PDT
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  5. Fake John/Jane Galt Coolidge

    Arahant (View Comment):

    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):

    Sadly I see this coming to HR departments. A requirement to been knee and apologize to BLM, and minorities. This is a backlash for Trump and GOP leadership.

    That would make some of us unemployable…er, more unemployable than we were before.

    Maybe, but they would be mostly white so that would be seen as a good thing.

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    • June 8, 2020, at 1:26 AM PDT
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  6. J Climacus Member

    “Better to die on your feet than live on your knees.” – Emiliano Zapata

    This is where I draw the line. I kneel only to God, not to men or their causes.

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    • June 8, 2020, at 4:20 AM PDT
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  7. Saint Augustine Member

    What about Abraham kneeling to the Hittites when he bought the Cave of Machpelah?

    (I think there are some other biblical examples, but apparently I don’t keep them in my head; I can’t remember any of them clearly!)

    I guess we could say that was a mistake on Abraham’s part. Or allegorize it somehow–he’s an image of the greater character serving the lesser, like Jesus.

    Or maybe it’s just a different cultural context, and means something different.

    I don’t have the answer. Just the question, and these very rudimentary speculations! Maybe you people have better than I do!

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    • June 8, 2020, at 4:25 AM PDT
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  8. Arahant Member

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):
    Or maybe it’s just a different cultural context, and means something different.

    Or maybe he is earlier in the Bible and represents a less-developed form of consciousness. He represents faith, but he is not originally deeply-rooted (lives in a tent). The Hittites, metaphysically, represent thoughts of opposition and resistance. He kneels to them at that point, but what is the eventual denouement? Machpelah is even more interesting.

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    • June 8, 2020, at 4:37 AM PDT
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  9. MWD B612 "Dawg" Member

    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):

    Arahant (View Comment):

    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):

    Sadly I see this coming to HR departments. A requirement to been knee and apologize to BLM, and minorities. This is a backlash for Trump and GOP leadership.

    That would make some of us unemployable…er, more unemployable than we were before.

    Maybe, but they would be mostly white so that would be seen as a good thing.

    Where I work (large financial firm), one does not have to actively “kneel” to or support BLM, et. al. But actively opposing them will get you fired.

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    • June 8, 2020, at 5:42 AM PDT
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  10. JoshuaFinch Coolidge
    JoshuaFinch

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):
    I don’t have the answer. Just the question, and these very rudimentary speculations! Maybe you people have better than I do!

    One interpretation is that the gesture describes a nod of respect only. It is the same language used when Moses speaks to his father-in-law Jethro.

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    • June 8, 2020, at 7:12 AM PDT
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  11. RightAngles Member

    Have you guys seen this:

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    • June 8, 2020, at 8:48 AM PDT
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  12. JoshuaFinch Coolidge
    JoshuaFinch

    RightAngles (View Comment):

    Have you guys seen this:

    It’s the new religion.

    “When men choose not to believe in God, they do not thereafter believe in nothing, they then become capable of believing in anything.”

    G.K. Chesterton

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    • June 8, 2020, at 9:06 AM PDT
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  13. Jim McConnell Member
    Jim McConnellJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    What about Abraham kneeling to the Hittites when he bought the Cave of Machpelah?

    (I think there are some other biblical examples, but apparently I don’t keep them in my head; I can’t remember any of them clearly!)

    I guess we could say that was a mistake on Abraham’s part. Or allegorize it somehow–he’s an image of the greater character serving the lesser, like Jesus.

    Or maybe it’s just a different cultural context, and means something different.

    I don’t have the answer. Just the question, and these very rudimentary speculations! Maybe you people have better than I do!

    I’ve always seen Abraham as a very human man, special because he was chosen by God. I many instances of his life he was an example, not to be emulated, but of the fallen nature that we all share.

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    • June 8, 2020, at 9:48 AM PDT
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  14. Full Size Tabby Member

    JoshuaFinch: I could put up dozens of photos and video clips of police kneeling. It makes me physically ill to look at them, however, and I won’t subject you to them here.

    A police department that kneels before any group of people might as well be defunded and disbanded, because the department has forfeited its authority to impartially enforce the law. 

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    • June 8, 2020, at 10:12 AM PDT
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  15. Instugator Thatcher
    InstugatorJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    danok1 (View Comment):
    Where I work (large financial firm), one does not have to actively “kneel” to or support BLM, et. al.

    Yet

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    • June 8, 2020, at 11:55 AM PDT
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  16. MWD B612 "Dawg" Member

    Instugator (View Comment):

    danok1 (View Comment):
    Where I work (large financial firm), one does not have to actively “kneel” to or support BLM, et. al.

    Yet

    Fact check: True

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    • June 8, 2020, at 12:24 PM PDT
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  17. Hoyacon Member

    But would Mordechai use a Mazel Tov cocktail?

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    • June 8, 2020, at 1:13 PM PDT
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  18. RightAngles Member

    Hoyacon (View Comment):

    But would Mordechai use a Mazel Tov cocktail?

    “The Intellectuals” hahahahahahahahahaha OMG!!!! Hahahahahaha

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    • June 8, 2020, at 1:27 PM PDT
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  19. JoshuaFinch Coolidge
    JoshuaFinch

    Jim McConnell (View Comment):
    I’ve always seen Abraham as a very human man, special because he was chosen by God.

    Circumcision was to serve as a constant reminder of his humanity and imperfection. 

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    • June 8, 2020, at 2:13 PM PDT
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  20. JoshuaFinch Coolidge
    JoshuaFinch

    Hoyacon (View Comment):

    But would Mordechai use a Mazel Tov cocktail?

     

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    • June 8, 2020, at 2:19 PM PDT
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  21. Saint Augustine Member

    RightAngles (View Comment):

    Have you guys seen this:

    Right, because when Jesus washes the disciples’ feet in the Bible it’s a [flowerbed] symbol of his repentance.

    Good grief.

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    • June 8, 2020, at 2:24 PM PDT
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  22. JoshuaFinch Coolidge
    JoshuaFinch

    Mazel Tov cocktail:

    the above is an answer to this question: “What do you call a mix of Bernie Sanders and Ihlan Omar?”

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    • June 8, 2020, at 2:25 PM PDT
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  23. Danny Alexander Inactive

    Re Mazel Tov Cocktail:

    ”Say Shalom to my little friend!…”

    • #23
    • June 8, 2020, at 4:00 PM PDT
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  24. Danny Alexander Inactive

    Important and panoramic — if depressing — survey:

    http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=387652

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    • June 8, 2020, at 4:02 PM PDT
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  25. The Reticulator Member

    JoshuaFinch:

    Amazon is on board.

    I saw that on Amazon yesterday and thought that middle statement was disgustingly racist. They use the same terminology that I sometimes hear in places like Ricochet.

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    • June 8, 2020, at 5:15 PM PDT
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  26. Full Size Tabby Member

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    RightAngles (View Comment):

    Have you guys seen this:

    Right, because when Jesus washes the disciples’ feet in the Bible it’s a [flowerbed] symbol of his repentance.

    Good grief.

    @grannydude has a post on the Main Feed about fact that the symbolism is the opposite of what the foot washers seem to think they’re conveying. If the foot washing is meant to parallel Jesus’ washing of the disciples’ feet, then the white folk are claiming the position of superiority.

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    • June 8, 2020, at 5:38 PM PDT
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  27. Hoyacon Member

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    JoshuaFinch:

    Amazon is on board.

    I saw that on Amazon yesterday and thought that middle statement was disgustingly racist. They use the same terminology that I sometimes hear in places like Ricochet.

    It’s been running for more days than it needs to. I bet, if you challenged them, they would say the lower case in “lives” and “matter” means it’s not a reference to the organization.

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    • June 8, 2020, at 5:39 PM PDT
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  28. Saint Augustine Member

    Full Size Tabby (View Comment):

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    RightAngles (View Comment):

    Have you guys seen this:

    Right, because when Jesus washes the disciples’ feet in the Bible it’s a [flowerbed] symbol of his repentance.

    Good grief.

    @grannydude has a post on the Main Feed about fact that the symbolism is the opposite of what the foot washers seem to think they’re conveying. If the foot washing is meant to parallel Jesus’ washing of the disciples’ feet, then the white folk are claiming the position of superiority.

    Right on, right on.

    The whole idea of acknowledging “white privilege” and using it to help the helpless blacks is condescending if not racist.

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    • June 8, 2020, at 5:51 PM PDT
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  29. The Reticulator Member

    Hoyacon (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    JoshuaFinch:

    Amazon is on board.

    I saw that on Amazon yesterday and thought that middle statement was disgustingly racist. They use the same terminology that I sometimes hear in places like Ricochet.

    It’s been running for more days than it needs to. I bet, if you challenged them, they would say the lower case in “lives” and “matter” means it’s not a reference to the organization.

    My problem is with the term “the Black community.” I don’t care about the upper case, but this phrase implies that there is just one black community, and that it is “other.” 

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    • June 8, 2020, at 5:59 PM PDT
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  30. Flicker Coolidge

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    Full Size Tabby (View Comment):

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    RightAngles (View Comment):

    Have you guys seen this:

    Right, because when Jesus washes the disciples’ feet in the Bible it’s a [flowerbed] symbol of his repentance.

    Good grief.

    @grannydude has a post on the Main Feed about fact that the symbolism is the opposite of what the foot washers seem to think they’re conveying. If the foot washing is meant to parallel Jesus’ washing of the disciples’ feet, then the white folk are claiming the position of superiority.

    Right on, right on.

    The whole idea of acknowledging “white privilege” and using it to help the helpless blacks is condescending if not racist.

    Yes, to be not racist people of every color should be washing the feet of everyone else of every color.

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    • June 8, 2020, at 6:22 PM PDT
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