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We have all heard the aphorism of “hitting a fly with a baseball bat.” The idea is simple. The baseball bat is overkill, ineffective, and liable to produce unintended collateral damage. A fly swatter is less impressive but much more effective against the fly and without the side effects.

We understand the overkill aphorism but maybe now we need an underkill aphorism. How about, “Offering a saucer of milk to a man-eating tiger.” For a harmless house cat, the saucer of milk would be welcome and might even establish a bond of trust. For a tiger that has already killed and eaten human beings, the saucer of milk probably won’t interest the tiger as much as consuming the he (or she) who is providing the milk.

Antifa isn’t motivated by rage. Antifa is motivated by an ideology of hate. They hate the enlightenment idea of capitalist democracy. Through their ideology, they see an end that justifies all of their insane means. Violence, destruction, desecration, provocation, all of these are just tactics that Antifa justifies in its twisted ideological mindset. So far the police have followed a strategy of containment using defensive tactics only. This would be fine for the house cat. However, the tiger if impeded temporarily, will just look for “lunch” elsewhere.

I am no expert in police work. However, it is obvious to me that a change in both strategy and tactics must now be employed against these implacable ideologue terrorists. George Floyd is dead. However, the Antifa terrorists have already killed more than a handful of police and a score of innocent bystanders. They have destroyed businesses that were a vital part of black communities and have guaranteed economic hopelessness in these communities for years to come. Antifa is hiding behind the legitimate protests. However, they aren’t protesters and could care less about the fate of the black community.

To Antifa, this is just an opportunity to promote their twisted ideological ends. The black community is just a means to be sacrificed to that end. Let’s not let them get away with it.

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  1. Susan Quinn Contributor

    I was thinking along the same lines, Jim, not just in terms of action, but in terms of rhetoric. For example, do we really need to keep lauding “peaceful protests” as an American right when the protests are essentially providing additional manpower for Antifa? Why can’t we say that these protests are abusing the rights of the American people, because they are a source for the ongoing violence against others? Why can’t we hear the kind of rhetoric that Trump is using from the governors, who cower in their states, hoping that Trump will supersede their power so that they can blame him for bad outcomes? And if they won’t speak up, condemn them vigorously!

    Antifa will only respond to power and acquiesce to the power that exceeds their own. It’s well past time.

    Good post!

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    • June 2, 2020, at 11:38 AM PDT
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  2. James Gawron Thatcher
    James Gawron Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    I was thinking along the same lines, Jim, not just in terms of action, but in terms of rhetoric. For example, do we really need to keep lauding “peaceful protests” as an American right when the protests are essentially providing additional manpower for Antifa? Why can’t we say that these protests are abusing the rights of the American people, because they are a source for the ongoing violence against others? Why can’t we hear the kind of rhetoric that Trump is using from the governors, who cower in their states, hoping that Trump will supersede their power so that they can blame him for bad outcomes? And if they won’t speak up, condemn them vigorously!

    Antifa will only respond to power and acquiesce to the power that exceeds their own. It’s well past time.

    Good post!

    Suzy,

    As we have seen the leftist Governors & Mayors could care less about the reality of their policies for ordinary people. They always care how their posturing rhetoric looks in the press.

    BTW, I’m not exactly sure just what Antifa will respond to. Remember that a whip and a gun might scare a tiger off temporarily. However, the tiger might go down the block and eat a child for lunch. This will require some very serious thought and planning. They must be completely neutralized.

    Regards,

    Jim

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    • June 2, 2020, at 1:54 PM PDT
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  3. Stad Thatcher

    James Gawron: The baseball bat is overkill, ineffective, and liable to produce unintended collateral damage. A fly swatter is less impressive but much more effective against the fly and without the side effects.

    Which is wbhy rubber bullets are ineffective. We’re dealing with man-eating tigers, and while lethal force is the last resort, we’re already there. Shoot to kill . . .

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  4. CACrabtree Coolidge

    What you advocate is a great concept but I doubt that we’ll ever see it. For decades, Conservatives/Republicans have fought by Marquess of Queensbury rules while Progressives/Democrats have degenerated to Mixed Martial Arts (MMA) rules. And then, when Conservatives decide to punch back hard, Democrats respond with the familiar crapola of “Racist”, “Sexist”, “Homophobe”, etc. (you know the drill).

    It’s a bit like the old comedy routine of Bill Cosby when he parodied the traditional coin toss at the beginning of a football game:

    “Captain Custer, you lost the coin toss. You will take all your men down to the bottom of the hill while Captain Sitting Bull and all the indians in the world ride down on you”.

    Of course, today, there is the additional feature of all the media cheering on the indians and booing when the soldiers fire back.

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    • June 2, 2020, at 2:06 PM PDT
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  5. James Gawron Thatcher
    James Gawron Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    CACrabtree (View Comment):

    What you advocate is a great concept but I doubt that we’ll ever see it. For decades, Conservatives/Republicans have fought by Marquess of Queensbury rules while Progressives/Democrats have degenerated to Mixed Martial Arts (MMA) rules. And then, when Conservatives decide to punch back hard, Democrats respond with the familiar crapola of “Racist”, “Sexist”, “Homophobe”, etc. (you know the drill).

    It’s a bit like the old comedy routine of Bill Cosby when he parodied the traditional coin toss at the beginning of a football game:

    “Captain Custer, you lost the coin toss. You will take all your men down to the bottom of the hill while Captain Sitting Bull and all the indians in the world ride down on you”.

    Of course, today, there is the additional feature of all the media cheering on the indians and booing when the soldiers fire back.

    CA,

    Perhaps it’s not about breaking the rules but enforcing them. If Antifa is a terrorist group and Antifa is caught in the act of planning\carrying out terrorist acts then the mass arrest of the whole gang is justified. No dangerous confrontation in the streets. Innocent civilians can get hurt. Rikers Island for the small fry. Open up Guantanamo and put the leaders in solitary.

    In Western China, they’ve put whole families in a concentration camp because one relative speaks out on the net. Thank Gd that’s not us. Meanwhile, these sickos have directly caused the deaths of many innocents and are running free to do more damage. They need to be neutralized. I think, at a minimum, if you take their handlers away they’ll fall apart.

    As I said originally, I’m no expert in police matters but these people are violent & insane. If you have a better suggestion I’d be glad to hear it.

    Regards,

    Jim

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    • June 2, 2020, at 2:38 PM PDT
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  6. Flicker Coolidge

    Man is created in the image of God. All my life I have understood the Adversary’s goal as striding across a wrecked and lifeless globe, knowing that he was able to thwart God’s greatest design. Absolute destruction. Destruction of that which was originally very good. And in this act, he would prove himself God’s equal.

    This is what I think motivates anti-fa and other organized anarchists and destructive looters. It is the essence of evil.

     

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    • June 2, 2020, at 2:53 PM PDT
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  7. Housebroken Thatcher

    James, I’m gathering this response in CDA Idaho isn’t what you have in mind

    https://cdapress.com/news/2020/jun/02/armed-patriots-patrol-coeur-dalene-5/

    But it sure is satisfying.

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    • June 2, 2020, at 3:09 PM PDT
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  8. I Walton Member

    Of course. Well said. Good lord we let these fools parade around and destroy, but they merely serve a few corporate interests because they’re fools. The folks who run and benefit from the centralizing interests will do well in the short term, which is all they know about, but some of their kids and fewer grand kids will clip coupons and watch it all crumble. They won’t know why things aren’t working because their parents allowed useful idiots to destroy eduction in the process.

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    • June 2, 2020, at 4:03 PM PDT
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  9. James Gawron Thatcher
    James Gawron Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Housebroken (View Comment):

    James, I’m gathering this response in CDA Idaho isn’t what you have in mind

    https://cdapress.com/news/2020/jun/02/armed-patriots-patrol-coeur-dalene-5/

    But it sure is satisfying.

    House,

    I might not have had that in mind but it doesn’t mean that I’m against this. There is no right to loot, beat, and burn. It is not a legal constitutional right. The right to bear arms is a constitutional right. Those of us who are strict about justifying this usually limit our argument to statements like “the police can’t be everywhere”. I don’t take that as a euphemism. I take it literally. That is the difference between defending one’s Private Right and crossing the line into vigilantism. As the police have repeatedly failed to protect the public against these threats and it is self-evident that so far there is no counterforce to this evil, I don’t find any difficulty with the actions of these people.

    What else shall we have them to do?

    Regards,

    Jim

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    • June 2, 2020, at 4:40 PM PDT
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  10. Skyler Coolidge

    I’m not sure what saucers or milk means, but the government needs to be careful. The riots are not caused by people worried about race relations. If they react too strongly they will alienate all of America.

    The riots are orchestrated by a hard cadre of extremists. These need to be found in their homes and arrested. Without the cadre, riots are unlikely to be provoked. 

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  11. James Gawron Thatcher
    James Gawron Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Skyler (View Comment):

    I’m not sure what saucers or milk means, but the government needs to be careful. The riots are not caused by people worried about race relations. If they react too strongly they will alienate all of America.

    The riots are orchestrated by a hard cadre of extremists. These need to be found in their homes and arrested. Without the cadre, riots are unlikely to be provoked.

    Sky,

    Agreed.

    Regards,

    Jim

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  12. CACrabtree Coolidge

    James Gawron (View Comment):

    CACrabtree (View Comment):

    What you advocate is a great concept but I doubt that we’ll ever see it. For decades, Conservatives/Republicans have fought by Marquess of Queensbury rules while Progressives/Democrats have degenerated to Mixed Martial Arts (MMA) rules. And then, when Conservatives decide to punch back hard, Democrats respond with the familiar crapola of “Racist”, “Sexist”, “Homophobe”, etc. (you know the drill).

    It’s a bit like the old comedy routine of Bill Cosby when he parodied the traditional coin toss at the beginning of a football game:

    “Captain Custer, you lost the coin toss. You will take all your men down to the bottom of the hill while Captain Sitting Bull and all the indians in the world ride down on you”.

    Of course, today, there is the additional feature of all the media cheering on the indians and booing when the soldiers fire back.

    CA,

    Perhaps it’s not about breaking the rules but enforcing them. If Antifa is a terrorist group and Antifa is caught in the act of planning\carrying out terrorist acts then the mass arrest of the whole gang is justified. No dangerous confrontation in the streets. Innocent civilians can get hurt. Rikers Island for the small fry. Open up Guantanamo and put the leaders in solitary.

    In Western China, they’ve put whole families in a concentration camp because one relative speaks out on the net. Thank Gd that’s not us. Meanwhile, these sickos have directly caused the deaths of many innocents and are running free to do more damage. They need to be neutralized. I think, at a minimum, if you take their handlers away they’ll fall apart.

    As I said originally, I’m no expert in police matters but these people are violent & insane. If you have a better suggestion I’d be glad to hear it.

    Regards,

    Jim

    Nothing that’s presently legal…

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    • June 2, 2020, at 6:16 PM PDT
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  13. kedavis Member

    Well, I can see that Antifa is adding to things. But to apparently believe/argue that the black neighborhoods were not destroying themselves long before Antifa showed up, doesn’t seem useful.

    I don’t mean just sociologically, via single-parent households etc. There were the Rodney King riots and others, long before Antifa was a gleam in some white leftist’s eye.

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  14. Skyler Coolidge

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Well, I can see that Antifa is adding to things. But to apparently believe/argue that the black neighborhoods were not destroying themselves long before Antifa showed up, doesn’t seem useful.

    I don’t mean just sociologically, via single-parent households etc. There were the Rodney King riots and others, long before Antifa was a gleam in some white leftist’s eye.

    How new do you think Antifa and it’s ideological precursors are?

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  15. kedavis Member

    Skyler (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Well, I can see that Antifa is adding to things. But to apparently believe/argue that the black neighborhoods were not destroying themselves long before Antifa showed up, doesn’t seem useful.

    I don’t mean just sociologically, via single-parent households etc. There were the Rodney King riots and others, long before Antifa was a gleam in some white leftist’s eye.

    How new do you think Antifa and it’s ideological precursors are?

    Well, I was semi-aware even in 1968. Yes, even then the left – or a good part of it anyway, even if the “mainstream” wasn’t yet itself favorable towards violence – might have been sympathetic, but I just don’t remember seeing a lot of white people actually carrying torches etc at the fronts of the mobs. Same thing with burning and looting local grocery stores in black areas for Rodney King, etc.

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  16. Stad Thatcher

    James Gawron (View Comment):
    If Antifa is a terrorist group and Antifa is caught in the act of planning\carrying out terrorist acts then the mass arrest of the whole gang is justified. No dangerous confrontation in the streets. Innocent civilians can get hurt.

    Already happened. Go after them full speed . . .

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    • June 3, 2020, at 5:52 AM PDT
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