53 Transcripts: Heads I Win, Tails You Lose

 

On July 25, 2017 Jared Kushner testified at the House Intelligence Committee and his testimony is one of the recently released transcripts. Kushner was completely cooperative with the committee and stated several times his willingness to stay until all of the committee’s questions were answered. Finally, Rep Trey Gowdy (R-SC) told him:

“I appreciate your willingness to stay until my friends run out of questions. But I also have to let you know. That’s never going to happen. The longer you stay in here, the narrative will be how important and significant a witness you were, hence the fact that they kept you in here all day long”.

On the other hand:

“If you do what any reasonable person would do” [cut it off at some point] “then they will say that you left before you answered all the questions . . . you cannot win, regardless of what you do”. (p. 100).

The same pattern happened with several witnesses. And the Democrats even leaked as these supposedly confidential interviews were occurring. In the middle of his testimony on December 14, 2017, Alexander Nix (CEO of Cambridge Analytica) complained he had just learned the fact he was being interviewed, along with a partisan summary of his testimony so far that day, had been leaked to Reuters, which had already published a story!

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  1. philo Member
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    I imagine this story will continue to be met with the great silence from the local Adam Schiff fluffer crowd. A true shame. As these details come out, I long to hear again about how “The House Managers skillfully weaved their narrative and made a compelling argument with a masterful multi-media presentation” and the slobbering word clouds “Schiff … virtuoso performance … compelling summation … rhetorical crescendo…The facts are clear…That game is up. It is done. …broke through the fourth wall…The facts are clear. …That game is up. It is done. …delivered forcefully…repetition for the purpose of emphasis” and how, as a long time loyal Republican  “I am ashamed today to be a Republican. I am ashamed at the conduct of the Senate Republicans.” 

    There, there. Pitiful stool pigeon. There, there.

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  2. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    I think we must just do what we think is right, rather than worry about the media spin. They will twist anything–anything–to meet their agenda, so what’s the point in being cooperative? I remember one press conference where Trump kept it short out of irritation over stupid questions. It was a beautiful moment.

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  3. Ontheleftcoast Inactive
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    Julie Kelly at American Greatness wrote something that I’ve been thinking for some time. It’s a good account of a sickening problem. The title: 

    Useless Senate Republicans No Match for the ‘Bums of Steele’

    Unfortunately, in many respects, it’s already too late. The bogus collusion narrative undoubtedly influenced the 2018 midterm elections, handing control of the House to the Democrats. Reputations that have been ruined cannot be restored—Trump can’t get back the first two years of his term. Mueller’s team walks away unscathed while his lead prosecutor raises money for Joe Biden.

    This whole fiasco lies at the feet of Senate Republicans. “Useless” might be too kind a description of them.

    As near as I can tell, the Republican House members have been pretty scrupulous about respecting the secrecy of closed door hearings. 

    The Democrats, not so much. But it’s not only that. Sundance writes at Conservative Treehouse,

    Long term CTH readers will not find this surprising, but it’s nice to see it starting to be said/admitted openly:

    (Source)

    State Dept. and Defense Dept. embeds primarily operate through CNN.  CIA embeds primarily operate through The Washington Post. FBI embeds primarily work through The New York Times; and Politico carries a blend.  Fox is the controlled opposition.

    Researchers who travel the deep weeds of U.S. politics have noted this very predictable pattern has been very visible for well over two decades.

    To summarize: The main media outlets are part of the Democrat Party’s propaganda machine (or, as Rush Limbaugh has said for years, the Democrat Party is the political wing of the media which genertes the platform and provides the propaganda.)

    The “intelligence community,” following on the CIA’s Cold War use of intellectuals and journalists as spies and agents of influence (ostensibly only outside of the US) is systematically working with the Democrat Party’s propaganda operation.

    Flynn, and then Trump, threatened the intelligence community.

    Sundance has been writing for years that the Senate Select Subcommittee on Intelligence is profoundly corrupt. For example:

    Lou Dobbs knows what is going on here… you can hear it and see it in his lead-in to the interview with Devin Nunes.  Unfortunately, Devin Nunes doesn’t want to call the baby ugly. Here we are, once again stuck in this stupid place where DC pretends the previous CIA, FBI and DOJ officials were not political; while we roll our eyes at them because we know the truth; and we know that they know the truth; but their pretense is supported by a willfully blind media.

     

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  4. MichaelKennedy Inactive
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    Ontheleftcoast (View Comment):

    Julie Kelly at American Greatness wrote something that I’ve been thinking for some time. It’s a good account of a sickening problem. The title:

    Useless Senate Republicans No Match for the ‘Bums of Steele’

    Unfortunately, in many respects, it’s already too late. The bogus collusion narrative undoubtedly influenced the 2018 midterm elections, handing control of the House to the Democrats. Reputations that have been ruined cannot be restored—Trump can’t get back the first two years of his term. Mueller’s team walks away unscathed while his lead prosecutor raises money for Joe Biden.

    This whole fiasco lies at the feet of Senate Republicans. “Useless” might be too kind a description of them.

    As near as I can tell, the Republican House members have been pretty scrupulous about respecting the secrecy of closed door hearings.

    The Democrats, not so much. But it’s not only that. Sundance writes at Conservative Treehouse,

    Long term CTH readers will not find this surprising, but it’s nice to see it starting to be said/admitted openly:

    (Source)

    State Dept. and Defense Dept. embeds primarily operate through CNN. CIA embeds primarily operate through The Washington Post. FBI embeds primarily work through The New York Times; and Politico carries a blend. Fox is the controlled opposition.

    To summarize: The main media outlets are part of the Democrat Party’s propaganda machine (or, as Rush Limbaugh has said for years, the Democrat Party is the political wing of the media which genertes the platform and provides the propaganda.)

    The “intelligence community,” following on the CIA’s Cold War use of intellectuals and journalists as spies and agents of influence (ostensibly only outside of the US) is systematically working with the Democrat Party’s propaganda operation.

    Flynn, and then Trump, threatened the intelligence community.

    Sundance has been writing for years that the Senate Select Subcommittee on Intelligence is profoundly corrupt. For example:

    Lou Dobbs knows what is going on here… you can hear it and see it in his lead-in to the interview with Devin Nunes. Unfortunately, Devin Nunes doesn’t want to call the baby ugly. Here we are, once again stuck in this stupid place where DC pretends the previous CIA, FBI and DOJ officials were not political; while we roll our eyes at them because we know the truth; and we know that they know the truth; but their pretense is supported by a willfully blind media.

    I blame a lot of this on John McCain who, being hornswoggled by Russ Feingold, went along with limiting campaign contributions by individuals. That turned all legislation over to staffs who wrote the thousand page vague bills after which they would move to agencies to write the regulations. Members of Congress, even Senators, were reduced to “dialing for dollars” and dependence on lobbyists and “dark money” groups.

    https://chicagoboyz.net/archives/63053.html

     

     

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  5. Ontheleftcoast Inactive
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    MichaelKennedy (View Comment):

    I blame a lot of this on John McCain who, being hornswoggled by Russ Feingold, went along with limiting campaign contributions by individuals. That turned all legislation over to staffs who wrote the thousand page vague bills after which they would move to agencies to write the regulations. Members of Congress, even Senators, were reduced to “dialing for dollars” and dependence on lobbyists and “dark money” groups.

    https://chicagoboyz.net/archives/63053.html

    Good point, though I wonder how hornswoggled he was. It wouldn’t surprise me at all to learn that he had a grudge against somebody and saw McCain-Feingold as a way to harm them. 

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  6. MichaelKennedy Inactive
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    Ontheleftcoast (View Comment):

    MichaelKennedy (View Comment):

    I blame a lot of this on John McCain who, being hornswoggled by Russ Feingold, went along with limiting campaign contributions by individuals. That turned all legislation over to staffs who wrote the thousand page vague bills after which they would move to agencies to write the regulations. Members of Congress, even Senators, were reduced to “dialing for dollars” and dependence on lobbyists and “dark money” groups.

    https://chicagoboyz.net/archives/63053.html

    Good point, though I wonder how hornswoggled he was. It wouldn’t surprise me at all to learn that he had a grudge against somebody and saw McCain-Feingold as a way to harm them.

    Oh, as I point out in the linked post, he  was enraged to be linked to the Keating Five as a naive freshman Senator by the four old corrupt Democrats.  Cranston was a master as making himself appear “Progressive” while as corrupt as any Senator in a generation.  McCain was arrogant and treasured his “hero” reputation.

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  7. Ontheleftcoast Inactive
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    MichaelKennedy (View Comment):

    Ontheleftcoast (View Comment):

    MichaelKennedy (View Comment):

    I blame a lot of this on John McCain who, being hornswoggled by Russ Feingold, went along with limiting campaign contributions by individuals. That turned all legislation over to staffs who wrote the thousand page vague bills after which they would move to agencies to write the regulations. Members of Congress, even Senators, were reduced to “dialing for dollars” and dependence on lobbyists and “dark money” groups.

    https://chicagoboyz.net/archives/63053.html

    Good point, though I wonder how hornswoggled he was. It wouldn’t surprise me at all to learn that he had a grudge against somebody and saw McCain-Feingold as a way to harm them.

    Oh, as I point out in the linked post, he was enraged to be linked to the Keating Five as a naive freshman Senator by the four old corrupt Democrats. Cranston was a master as making himself appear “Progressive” while as corrupt as any Senator in a generation. McCain was arrogant and treasured his “hero” reputation.

    Oh, I remember Cranston, alright. Your characterization is spot on, except that as his nuclear freeze position suggests, he was on the Left.  With Cranston in the Senate and Willie Brown as Speaker of the Assembly, the 1980s were a lucrative time to be corrupt and “Progressive” in California.

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