PA Secretary of Health Removed Her Mom from Nursing Home

 

While state officials and bureaucrats were moving COVID+ patients into nursing homes, introducing the virus to the population at most risk for complications and death, what were they doing with their loved ones? This is a question we should start asking. We know where the Pennsylvania Secretary of Health has her mom: out of a nursing home and into a hotel. Buried in the last line of this story on the Pennsylvania government’s growing nursing home death toll, we read:

Levine was asked by a reporter Tuesday about her mother being moved out of a long-term care facility, Levine said she was allowing the wishes of her 95-year-old mother to move from a personal care home to a hotel.

Instead of state officials taking personal responsibility for how their policies contributed to the deaths of their residents, they’re taking aim at the nursing homes themselves to divert attention from their critical failures.

Tuesday also saw Attorney General Josh Shapiro announce he has opened criminal investigations into several nursing homes in the commonwealth.

Government officials are trying to make nursing homes the fall guys, and they shouldn’t get away with it. Unfortunately, few in the media are asking questions, instead of lauding those who oversaw carnage in nursing homes and assisted living facilities across the state.

New York Governor Andrew Cuomo continues to be a media darling, despite the death toll among the elderly in nursing homes in his state. And his mother? She doesn’t appear to be in one of them either.

 

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  1. Thistle Inactive
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    Nursing home administrators will be cast as the profit-hungry villains–I can almost see the Netflix series now.

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  2. Gumby Mark (R-Meth Lab of Demo… Coolidge
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    Instead of state officials taking personal responsibility for how their policies contributed to the deaths of their residents, they’re taking aim at the nursing homes themselves to divert attention from their critical failures.

    Tuesday also saw Attorney General Josh Shapiro announce he has opened criminal investigations into several nursing homes in the commonwealth.

    Government officials are trying to make nursing homes the fall guys, and they shouldn’t get away with it

    No surprise.  I’ve seen this syndrome many times before and have had it employed against me, companies I work for, and colleagues.  When politicians and government agencies are publicly embarrassed their immediate response to is to find some other non-public persons or institutions to blame and send law enforcement after them.  It seem to work for them.

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  3. She Member
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    It is a great pity to see nursing homes being made a political football from all sides.  For many reasons (not all of them avoidable, or of their own making), they are a powerful vector for the spread of this disease to the most vulnerable victims.  It would be helpful to find a politician willing to begin the process of finding a solution to this issue in a humane, realistic, and achievable way.  In the meantime, I’m going to do anything I can to keep beloved elderly members of my own family, or dear friends, as far away from communal health care settings as possible, and I don’t blame those who can, or those who do.  I despise their sanctimonious claptrap about it, though.

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  4. Ontheleftcoast Inactive
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    She (View Comment):

    It is a great pity to see nursing homes being made a political football from all sides. For many reasons (not all of them avoidable, or of their own making), they are a powerful vector for the spread of this disease to the most vulnerable victims. It would be helpful to find a politician willing to begin the process of finding a solution to this issue in a humane, realistic, and achievable way. In the meantime, I’m going to do anything I can to keep beloved elderly members of my own family, or dear friends, as far away from communal health care settings as possible, and I don’t blame those who can, or those who do. I despise their sanctimonious claptrap about it, though.

    One suggestion I’ve seen has long live-in duty stints for the caregivers. Test negative before it starts. There would be formidable logistical problems to deal with, and the scope would favor larger companies over small ones with a converted house or two. 

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  5. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    Working in health care all my life, it is typical for there to be “you must do this rulings” and then blame when there are bad outcomes. 

    In Georgia, we were pressured to take aging clients with developmental disabilities out of state hospitals and put into what amounted to mini nursing homes. The money they offered was in no way enough to care for these medically fragile clients. Furthermore, the idea was it was somehow better to take someone from the only home they had known for decades and move them at the end of their lives. I told my CEO at the time, these people would be moved and die of the shock at their ages. Indeed, when they closed a major long term DD hospital, they moved younger residents out and had several deaths in group homes. 

    So, who gets blamed? Not the Department of Behavioral Health and Developmental Disabilities. Not the Government. Nope. It is always the providers, who did not want to take the clients in the first place. 

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  6. GFHandle Member
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    Thistle (View Comment):

    Nursing home administrators will be cast as the profit-hungry villains–I can almost see the Netflix series now.

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Working in health care all my life, it is typical for there to be “you must do this rulings” and then blame when there are bad outcomes.

    In Georgia, we were pressured to take aging clients with developmental disabilities out of state hospitals and put into what amounted to mini nursing homes. The money they offered was in no way enough to care for these medically fragile clients. Furthermore, the idea was it was somehow better to take someone from the only home they had known for decades and move them at the end of their lives. I told my CEO at the time, these people would be moved and die of the shock at their ages. Indeed, when they closed a major long term DD hospital, they moved younger residents out and had several deaths in group homes.

    So, who gets blamed? Not the Department of Behavioral Health and Developmental Disabilities. Not the Government. Nope. It is always the providers, who did not want to take the clients in the first place.

    My mother was in a nursing home for paralysis. She was lucid. All day patients tied to wheelchairs were wailing and shouting around here.  After all, they are all the same since they are all “disabled.” So nobody’s needs were met.  One time on a visit I smelled urine. Urine soaked clothes were piled in corners of the halls. What happened? Immigration officials had raided a few days before and kicked out all the Haitian workers. No one left to handle the laundry. The patients? Who they? Plenty of blame to go around in our elder care system.

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  7. jeannebodine, Verbose Bon Viva… Member
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    PA along with New York and New Jersey specifically directed nursing home patients who were COVID-19 positive.

    States Ordered Nursing Homes to Take COVID-19 Residents. Thousands Died. How it happened:

    https://www.buckscountycouriertimes.com/news/20200501/states-ordered-nursing-homes-to-take-covid-19-residents-thousands-died-how-it-happened

    Not only that, the PA Department Health ordered all nursing home inspections hated as soon as the virus. They have only restarted them in the past few days.

    NY gets all the press but PA and NJ did these same things.

    Heck of job, Brownie.

     

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  8. She Member
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    Ontheleftcoast (View Comment):

    She (View Comment):

    It is a great pity to see nursing homes being made a political football from all sides. For many reasons (not all of them avoidable, or of their own making), they are a powerful vector for the spread of this disease to the most vulnerable victims. It would be helpful to find a politician willing to begin the process of finding a solution to this issue in a humane, realistic, and achievable way. In the meantime, I’m going to do anything I can to keep beloved elderly members of my own family, or dear friends, as far away from communal health care settings as possible, and I don’t blame those who can, or those who do. I despise their sanctimonious claptrap about it, though.

    One suggestion I’ve seen has long live-in duty stints for the caregivers. Test negative before it starts. There would be formidable logistical problems to deal with, and the scope would favor larger companies over small ones with a converted house or two.

    Yes, first time I saw consideration of something like this was in the UK papers, where they were talking about proposals to limit, or eliminate the “rounding” that many caregivers do, where they work part-time at two or three institutions and circulate among them.  It’s really a paradigm shift, but perhaps it’s time to think about things like this, and the never ending procession of attendants, purveyors of personal grooming services, and others who make the rounds on a regular basis.  Not a small change, but perhaps something that needs to be thought through.

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  9. James Gawron Inactive
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    Bethany,

    Wow. You are right on target. The Dems love to grandstand and then apply brute force one size fits all non-solutions to problems. That’s exactly what they did here and they got tens of thousands of elderly dead in nursing homes. Ordinary Guy, Rick DeSantis in Florida, knew he had a huge problem, bigger than anywhere else in the nation. So he aimed his resources and time directly at the big problem. He saved a lot of lives.

    They never admit when they’re wrong. In this case terribly wrong. Hold their feet to the fire Bethany. They’ve earned it.

    Regards,

    Jim

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  10. Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… Member
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    It strikes me as possible that both the politicians and the nursing homes may be to blame.

    I’m not inclined to blame nursing homes, or anyone else really, for not somehow — magically — stopping the spread of a respiratory virus.  It’s very hard to do so.  But then, we shouldn’t be blaming the politicians either, right?

    Nor am I inclined to blame a public health official who realizes that her own mother, in a nursing home, would be at risk if an infection breaks out there, and moves that mother to a safer location.  That seems prudent.

    So what is Bethany’s complaint?  That this particular health official didn’t cause a further panic by telling everyone that they should yank their elderly relatives out of nursing homes?

    There’s just not a good solution here.

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  11. jeannebodine, Verbose Bon Viva… Member
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    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio…

    It strikes me as possible that both the politicians and the nursing homes may be to blame.

    I’m not inclined to blame nursing homes, or anyone else really, for not somehow — magically — stopping the spread of a respiratory virus. It’s very hard to do so. But then, we shouldn’t be blaming the politicians either, right?

    Nor am I inclined to blame a public health official who realizes that her own mother, in a nursing home, would be at risk if an infection breaks out there, and moves that mother to a safer location. That seems prudent.

    So what is Bethany’s complaint? That this particular health official didn’t cause a further panic by telling everyone that they should yank their elderly relatives out of nursing homes?

    There’s just not a good solution here.

    At the same time the PA Department Health suspended all nursing home inspections and, like Cuomo, ordered nursing homes to take in COVID-19 patients.

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  12. Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… Member
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    jeannebodine, Verbose Bon Viva… (View Comment):

    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio…

    It strikes me as possible that both the politicians and the nursing homes may be to blame.

    I’m not inclined to blame nursing homes, or anyone else really, for not somehow — magically — stopping the spread of a respiratory virus. It’s very hard to do so. But then, we shouldn’t be blaming the politicians either, right?

    Nor am I inclined to blame a public health official who realizes that her own mother, in a nursing home, would be at risk if an infection breaks out there, and moves that mother to a safer location. That seems prudent.

    So what is Bethany’s complaint? That this particular health official didn’t cause a further panic by telling everyone that they should yank their elderly relatives out of nursing homes?

    There’s just not a good solution here.

    At the same time the PA Department Health suspended all nursing home inspections and, like Cuomo, ordered nursing homes to take in COVID-19 patients.

    Jeanne, where is the source for this claim?

    I’m not blaming you, but I do not trust news sources.  The situation was complicated.  When a nursing home resident was released from a hospital, where was that person supposed to go?  The nursing home is their home.  Do you want them put on the street?  Or kept at the hospital, unnecessarily, when everyone was worried that the hospitals were about to be filled with COVID patients?

    It’s easy to be a critic.  I don’t see anyone offering solutions to what was, in fact, a very difficult problem.

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  13. She Member
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    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):

    jeannebodine, Verbose Bon Viva… (View Comment):

    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio…

    It strikes me as possible that both the politicians and the nursing homes may be to blame.

    I’m not inclined to blame nursing homes, or anyone else really, for not somehow — magically — stopping the spread of a respiratory virus. It’s very hard to do so. But then, we shouldn’t be blaming the politicians either, right?

    Nor am I inclined to blame a public health official who realizes that her own mother, in a nursing home, would be at risk if an infection breaks out there, and moves that mother to a safer location. That seems prudent.

    So what is Bethany’s complaint? That this particular health official didn’t cause a further panic by telling everyone that they should yank their elderly relatives out of nursing homes?

    There’s just not a good solution here.

    At the same time the PA Department Health suspended all nursing home inspections and, like Cuomo, ordered nursing homes to take in COVID-19 patients.

    Jeanne, where is the source for this claim?

    I’m not blaming you, but I do not trust news sources. The situation was complicated. When a nursing home resident was released from a hospital, where was that person supposed to go? The nursing home is their home. Do you want them put on the street? Or kept at the hospital, unnecessarily, when everyone was worried that the hospitals were about to be filled with COVID patients?

    It’s easy to be a critic. I don’t see anyone offering solutions to what was, in fact, a very difficult problem.

    I agree it’s a difficult subject.  And perhaps that’s why it’s time for thinking outside the box.  It’s not a “new” idea that nursing homes are a cesspool of Covid-19.  So, perhaps, sending a non-Covid, or a recovered-Covid  elderly person who’s been in the hospital for any reason at all back to an infected nursing home isn’t a really good idea at this time.  Maybe we need to come up with some other ideas.  I’m afraid that the idea that “the nursing home is their home” doesn’t cut much ice with me.  Their home is their home.  The nursing home is merely the place that they go when their home, for whatever reason (some of them very valid) isn’t an option any more.  At this stage in their life, if what they have to do is find a new, non-infectious, home, that’s what I’d like for my vulnerable person.  For sure.

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  14. Nerina Bellinger Inactive
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    I think the point with the nursing homes is this: from the beginning of this crisis, we knew that OF ALL THE POPULATIONS, the elderly – particularly the infirm elderly – were at extremely high risk for acquiring the virus and dying from it.  Why then, would a state health department director issue an order mandating that Covid-19 positive patients be returned to facilities with nothing but “at-risk” patients?  Nursing home directors were begging for other options and even asked for Covid-19 patients to be cared for in the Javits Center or on the Mercy naval ship until they had recovered.  Their requests were refused.  I understand that initially NYS was hoping to make acute care hospital bed space available for the anticipated onslaught of virus-afflicted patients (which thankfully never came) but Cuomo and Zucker should at least have the courage of their convictions and own up to their decisions. 

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  15. Nerina Bellinger Inactive
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    And people have to remember what staffing is like in nursing homes.  It is not like the ratios seen in acute care hospitals.  Most of the care in nursing homes is rendered by CNAs, overseen by LPNs with a few RNs in supervisory roles to cover hundreds of patients.  The training alone to don and remove PPE would take time and without oversight could easily be done wrong.  Cross-contamination is easy to do in those settings. 

    Maybe an option is to have a “step down” unit in hospitals for the elderly who are recovering from Covid-19.  Obviously NY has made changes in their mandate but given that hospitals are reporting significantly lower occupancy rates, I think most of them have space to keep patients.  At this point, though, no Covid-19+ patients should be admitted or re-admitted to nursing homes.  It is negligence of the highest order. 

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  16. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):

    It strikes me as possible that both the politicians and the nursing homes may be to blame.

    I’m not inclined to blame nursing homes, or anyone else really, for not somehow — magically — stopping the spread of a respiratory virus. It’s very hard to do so. But then, we shouldn’t be blaming the politicians either, right?

    Nor am I inclined to blame a public health official who realizes that her own mother, in a nursing home, would be at risk if an infection breaks out there, and moves that mother to a safer location. That seems prudent.

    So what is Bethany’s complaint? That this particular health official didn’t cause a further panic by telling everyone that they should yank their elderly relatives out of nursing homes?

    There’s just not a good solution here.

    She issued an order then did not face the consequences.  That is the issue. 

    The law should be whatever you prescribed for the masses you face. If that means death of your mom, well then, maybe you should not condemn others to death.

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  17. Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… Member
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    I have a request.  I’d like everyone who claimed that some public health officer issued some order, that supposedly did such-and-such, to link the order.

    I don’t want to read what you think some order said.  You probably don’t know.  I don’t know.  I don’t want to read what some news outlet — left or right — thinks some order said.  I want to read the actual order.

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  18. Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… Member
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    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):

    It strikes me as possible that both the politicians and the nursing homes may be to blame.

    I’m not inclined to blame nursing homes, or anyone else really, for not somehow — magically — stopping the spread of a respiratory virus. It’s very hard to do so. But then, we shouldn’t be blaming the politicians either, right?

    Nor am I inclined to blame a public health official who realizes that her own mother, in a nursing home, would be at risk if an infection breaks out there, and moves that mother to a safer location. That seems prudent.

    So what is Bethany’s complaint? That this particular health official didn’t cause a further panic by telling everyone that they should yank their elderly relatives out of nursing homes?

    There’s just not a good solution here.

    She issued an order then did not face the consequences. That is the issue.

    The law should be whatever you prescribed for the masses you face. If that means death of your mom, well then, maybe you should not condemn others to death.

    Bryan, this makes no sense to me.

    What order did she issue?  What consequences did she not face?  Who condemned someone to death?  How?  These are quite unsubstantiated allegations.  It’s not just you, Bryan — it’s the OP, and several other comments.

    I haven’t even seen any evidence that this particular Pennsylvania official issued any relevant order at all.  Perhaps she did.  Where is it?

    I do not like the outrage-fests, in the absence of evidence, when the Left engages in them.  I do not like it any more when it’s my friends on the Right.

    Reading the OP again, I’m disappointed at the sloppiness.  Unspecified “state officials and bureaucrats” are supposedly moving COVID patients into nursing homes — with no substantiation.  One public health official in Pennsylvania allows her mother to move out of a nursing home to a hotel — with no indication that this official did anything else, or is one of the unspecified “bureaucrats” who supposedly moved COVID patients into nursing homes.  

    Another state official — Josh Shapiro, the PA attorney general, though the OP doesn’t even say this — announces that he’s investigating some nursing homes.  For some reason, the OP assumes that there could never be any basis for investigating any nursing home in the entire state of PA.

    Then the OP criticizes Gov. Cuomo — in a different state — who apparently isn’t supposed to talk to his mother on Mother’s Day, because some people have died in nursing homes in NY.  Supposedly because of an executive order issued by Gov. Cuomo, says the unsubstantiated tweet that Bethany references.  Where is that order?

    I do seem to recall seeing some order issued by the NY Health Department — which is not Gov. Cuomo.

    This is just incoherent.

     

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  19. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):

    It strikes me as possible that both the politicians and the nursing homes may be to blame.

    I’m not inclined to blame nursing homes, or anyone else really, for not somehow — magically — stopping the spread of a respiratory virus. It’s very hard to do so. But then, we shouldn’t be blaming the politicians either, right?

    Nor am I inclined to blame a public health official who realizes that her own mother, in a nursing home, would be at risk if an infection breaks out there, and moves that mother to a safer location. That seems prudent.

    So what is Bethany’s complaint? That this particular health official didn’t cause a further panic by telling everyone that they should yank their elderly relatives out of nursing homes?

    There’s just not a good solution here.

    She issued an order then did not face the consequences. That is the issue.

    The law should be whatever you prescribed for the masses you face. If that means death of your mom, well then, maybe you should not condemn others to death.

    Bryan, this makes no sense to me.

    What order did she issue? What consequences did she not face? Who condemned someone to death? How? These are quite unsubstantiated allegations. It’s not just you, Bryan — it’s the OP, and several other comments.

    I haven’t even seen any evidence that this particular Pennsylvania official issued any relevant order at all. Perhaps she did. Where is it?

    I do not like the outrage-fests, in the absence of evidence, when the Left engages in them. I do not like it any more when it’s my friends on the Right.

    Reading the OP again, I’m disappointed at the sloppiness. Unspecified “state officials and bureaucrats” are supposedly moving COVID patients into nursing homes — with no substantiation. One public health official in Pennsylvania allows her mother to move out of a nursing home to a hotel — with no indication that this official did anything else, or is one of the unspecified “bureaucrats” who supposedly moved COVID patients into nursing homes.

    Another state official — Josh Shapiro, the PA attorney general, though the OP doesn’t even say this — announces that he’s investigating some nursing homes. For some reason, the OP assumes that there could never be any basis for investigating any nursing home in the entire state of PA.

    Then the OP criticizes Gov. Cuomo — in a different state — who apparently isn’t supposed to talk to his mother on Mother’s Day, because some people have died in nursing homes in NY. Supposedly because of an executive order issued by Gov. Cuomo, says the unsubstantiated tweet that Bethany references. Where is that order?

    I do seem to recall seeing some order issued by the NY Health Department — which is not Gov. Cuomo.

    This is just incoherent.

     

    PA was a state where this was ordered according to the news. But heymmthat could be a lie. Sure was not in NY. It fits with the way these states work.

    But hey, you seem to be willing to give this lady a pass. You are free to do so. For me, I am tired of all the bad actors getting away with it. I will call them out on it. You can go on making excuses for them.

     

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  20. jeannebodine, Verbose Bon Viva… Member
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    Here are the links to articles referencing the order on nursing homes.

    States ordered nursing homes to take covid-19 residents. Thousands died. How it happened

    https://www.buckscountycouriertimes.com/news/20200501/states-ordered-nursing-homes-to-take-covid-19-residents-thousands-died-how-it-happened

    Pennsylvania made nursing homes accept COVID patients

    https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/coronavirus/pa-forced-nursing-homes-take-covid-patients-health-secretarys-mother

    Here is a link to PA suspending nursing home inspections in the wake of COVID-19

    https://www.ydr.com/story/news/2020/04/24/coronavirus-leads-pa-stop-routine-safety-inspections-nursing-homes/3016487001/

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  21. jeannebodine, Verbose Bon Viva… Member
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    Here is an article on when the conflict initially arose. PA, NY and NJ(I believe) ordered the nursing homes to take COVID-19 patients:

    Coronavirus Patients Caught In Conflict Between Hospital And Nursing Homes

    https://lancasteronline.com/news/health/coronavirus-patients-caught-in-conflict-between-hospital-and-nursing-homes/article_f5cf924a-7290-11ea-8efb-7f32dbd1f05b.html

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  22. jeannebodine, Verbose Bon Viva… Member
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    There are also multiple calls for Rachel Levine to resign because of her actions from newspapers, legislators and citizen petitions.

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  23. Nerina Bellinger Inactive
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    Hi @arizonapatriot.  Here’s a link to the NYS DOH directive dated March 25, 2020 (I had to get it through the Wayback Machine because I was denied access through a contemporary search):

    https://web.archive.org/web/20200328184542/https://coronavirus.health.ny.gov/system/files/documents/2020/03/doh_covid19-_nhadmissionsreadmissions_-032520.pdf

    Cuomo loves to ask with whom the buck stops when it comes to Trump’s response.  I think it fair to ask the same of him.

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    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):
    She issued an order then did not face the consequences. That is the issue.

    Yep.

    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):
    I have a request. I’d like everyone who claimed that some public health officer issued some order, that supposedly did such-and-such, to link the order.

    From the article linked to in the OP:

    This month a consortium of Mid-Atlantic newspapers under the USA Today Network detailed the policy in Pennsylvania and other states that’s ordering nursing homes to admit medically stable residents infected with the coronavirus.

    Why, in God’s name would anyone want to place a corona-virus-infected person right in the middle of a susceptible population” Asks this not-terribly-bright person who’s more than four years old.

    Crimenutely.  And Glory Be.  Just glad I live where I do, even though it’s in Pennsylvania.

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  25. jeannebodine, Verbose Bon Viva… Member
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    Another link on the atrocious handling of the nursing home crisis in Pennsylvania .

    Pa. nursing home deaths spike 550 percent in one month, as state faces federal lawsuit

    https://www.ydr.com/story/news/2020/05/06/coronavirus-pa-nursing-home-deaths-spike-lawsuit-pennsylvania-health-department/5176144002/

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  26. jeannebodine, Verbose Bon Viva… Member
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    OK, I promise this will be my last link. I have to stop if I’m going to get any sleep tonight.

    In major reversal, Wolf administration says Pa. to begin weekly testing of nursing home residents, employees

    https://www.yorkdispatch.com/story/news/local/pennsylvania/2020/05/13/major-reversal-wolf-administration-says-pa-begin-weekly-testing-nursing-home-residents-employees/5181832002/

    These lines alone has increased my blood pressure to a dangerous level. And remember, she’s referring to NURSING HOMES! “In recent weeks, Levine said this type of widespread testing was unrealistic, both because of a lack of supplies and the inaccuracy of tests”.“It is not clear universal testing is the answer,” Levine told the Senate last Thursday”.

     

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    I live in Western PA.  There are seven counties that border on West Virginia and Ohio, and which form the westernmost counties in PA:  Erie (2 Covid deaths), Crawford (0 Covid deaths), Mercer (2 Covid deaths), Lawrence (7 Covid deaths), Beaver (78 Covid deaths), Washington (my county, 4 Covid deaths), Greene (1 Covid death).  So, total for the Western PA border states of 94 deaths, 78 of them in a single (of the seven) county.

    Here’s your link: Nearly All Deaths In Beaver County Associated with Nursing or Personal Care Homes.

    Yep.  And who knows whether that has anything to do with the decision on any number of businesses’ parts over the years to move out of the adjacent Allegheny County (where Pittsburgh is) and its punitive tax and regulation structure.  (Allegheny County, where Pittsburgh is, with (so far) 139 Covid deaths.

    People who can’t assimilate, and come up with ways to deal with, this data are missing something, IMHO.

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  28. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
    Bryan G. Stephens
    @BryanGStephens

    Is all that enough, Jerry?

    Or all we just being silly?

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  29. Bill Gates Will Inject You Now Inactive
    Bill Gates Will Inject You Now
    @Pseudodionysius

    https://babylonbee.com/news/some-states-to-require-people-going-outside-to-run-around-in-giant-hamster-balls

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  30. Scott Wilmot Member
    Scott Wilmot
    @ScottWilmot

    Why would anyone do anything this nut job says? He is a man who thinks he is a woman. Science.

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