Day 85: COVID-19 The Natives Are Getting Restless

 

In the screengrab above is both the IHME prediction for yesterday — one day since peak deaths/day in US and a prediction of 2,150 deaths — and the Worldometers report from yesterday. 1,535 deaths actually reported yesterday, ~70% of the prediction and another day in which real experience is performing better than predicted. And so it is not surprising that even as deaths decline and economic carnage mounts, the natives are getting restless.

Fox News has a report out: Coronavirus stay-at-home orders stir protests nationwide amid fears of economic collapse. The article references protests in Michigan, Ohio, and Wyoming. Governors are already mentioning plans to implement at least a partial reopening. Yes, there will likely be an uptick in COVID-19 cases where restrictions are eased, but this was supposed to be about preserving the health care system and not keeping everyone at home until the virus died out. Or at least that was how it was sold to the public.

That “bait and switch” was the subject of Tucker’s monologue last night. An urgent idling of the economy of the nation was needed to preserve the health care system lest deaths from all traumas and illnesses run out of control. That’s what we were told. “Flattening the curve” delayed but did not necessarily reduce the number of people who would ultimately be infected, becoming ill and possibly die. But it made it possible for our health care system to meet the challenge and not break which would have made deaths from all causes more numerous. And while there were some places where the health care system got pretty dented, it held. It held so well that in some places health care personnel are being furloughed. And irony of ironies, the income of certain health care providers is getting hit pretty hard as procedures were canceled to make capacity for COVID-19 patients that never showed up.

@MISTERBITCOIN shared on our COVID-19 Trackers Group a piece from David Henderson: Liberation From Lockdown Now. It reviews the sad litany of failure by our leadership to correctly assess what was coming and to handle this epidemic in the manner that we have been able to do for the past several decades without destroying the country. I do not particularly fault the humans involved. China lied and people died. Italy was scary — particularly if it had been replicated in our country. But the “cure” (if cure it was) is worse than the disease. And so Henderson concludes:

It’s time to let us wash our hands and go to work.

Austria, Denmark, and the Czech Republic are now opening up. Sweden, South Korea, Japan, and even China have opened. Right now, in the United States, a thousand politicians are looking for political cover to reverse course. Let someone brave and bold step forward. History will consider that person a hero. A liberator!

And let’s not forget the fact that so many of us are losing social interaction. “Man is, by nature, a social animal,” said Aristotle and man, are we ever seeing how true that is. We are thinking, acting, creative beings. We have the capacity to achieve remarkable things, including responding to the enormous challenges of pandemic disease, but we must be free to do so.

Re-open the free society right now!

Today the President formally kicks off that project. We need to take this as seriously as we took the pronouncements of the virus task force. We need to be as aggressive with re-opening as we were with closing if for no other reason than only a sense of impending normalcy will break the grip of fear.

Tomorrow I will take a finger prick antibody test. No it’s not going to tell me a lot even if I am positive for the virus antibodies. If I don’t have any it will tell me that infection in my county — one of the initial Bay Area 7 that shuttered on March 17 — is not that rampant. As of this writing, we have under 600 cases and only 11 deaths in a population of over 1.1 million. There are more hairdressers that have gone without income in this county for a month than persons with enough symptoms to be tested and confirmed as having COVID-19. If I do have the antibodies it will not tell me that I am immune. I don’t know the minimum titer that the test requires. If I am positive for the antibodies it will mean I am at the minimum for the test, but won’t give me a count. But I feel like going out and having it done is the first step in the right direction — gaining knowledge and not just sitting back and waiting for something to happen.

I am the only one in our household taking it. I am assuming that if I am positive for antibodies so are they. Mrs. Rodin doesn’t think the test is worthwhile. She would wait for a blood draw test that actually calculates a titer number. Who knows when that will be available for anyone walking in off the street? But I know it should be as quickly as possible and there should be some information now about the titer scores for those who have recovered. This article includes some titer scores for donors and recipients of recovered patient plasma treatments. But I do not have the expertise to interpret it.

This is the way forward: Get the data on people exposed/infected so we can realistically calculate the odds of anyone getting seriously ill or dying. Get data on the level of comorbidity of those who died so we can fine-tune the identity of the truly vulnerable. Give people information. Give people choice. And then, just get on with it.

[Note: Links to all my COVID-19 posts can be found here.]

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  1. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    Rodin: Give people information. Give people choice. And then, just get on with it.

    I agree. It’s enough for me.

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  2. DrewInWisconsin is done with t… Member
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    Damn right we’re getting restless! And I’m tired of every little bureaucrat seeing if they can outdo each other on restricting our liberties.

     

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  3. Brian Watt Inactive
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    We finally have a day of sunshine in Southern California. It’s been raining or overcast for more than a week now. My son, like millions of others around the country, has been restless and edgy. In a fit of frustration the other day, he put his fist into the TV in his room and cracked the LCD screen resulting in thousands of vertical lines, damaging it beyond repair. I have not replaced it because he needs to understand that there are consequences for breaking things.

    Because it’s so nice and sunny outside today his caregiver and I made the rebellious decision to get him out of the house for a walk in the sunshine and the fresh air. I remain here at home while they are out. His caregiver will take him for a walk around one of the nearby man-made lakes and then possibly go to Target afterward to purchase something to eat. Let’s see if they get any grief or if they’re stopped by a sheriff’s deputy or local police for violating the stay-at-home mandate.

    His caregiver was stopped at a sheriff’s traffic checkpoint last week and asked where he was going so late in the afternoon. He replied “To work”. The unmasked, ungloved sheriff’s deputy then asked if he had proof whether he was an essential worker. He showed the deputy a text on his cell phone from the caregiver agency stating he is an essential worker. The deputy took the phone to consult with another deputy. He eventually returned the phone to him and allowed him to proceed.

    I’ll let you all know whether I have to bail them out of jail or if they’ve managed to allude the lockdown police.

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  4. MarciN Member
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    I see this “lockdown” disappearing all by itself. My mother-in-law told me a funny story years ago. Girls and women used to have to cover their head at mass. I remembered that from when I was a teenager. My best friend was Catholic, and I sometimes went to mass with her family. All of the womenfolk carried a little tiny folded-up veil to put over the top of their head whenever they went to mass. Years later I noticed that women weren’t wearing a head covering of any kind at mass in my husband’s and my church. I asked my mother-in-law about it, and she said, “They don’t wear a covering anymore. They just stopped doing it. That was the end of the story. No church policy involved. The women simply stopped doing it.” :-) And so too will end the lockdown. :-)

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  5. DrewInWisconsin is done with t… Member
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    Brian Watt (View Comment):
    His caregiver was stopped at a sheriff’s traffic checkpoint last week and asked where he was going so late in the afternoon. He replied “To work”. The unmasked, ungloved sheriff’s deputy then asked if he had proof whether he was an essential worker. He showed the deputy a text on his cell phone from the caregiver agency stating he is an essential worker. The deputy took the phone to consult with another deputy. He eventually returned the phone to him and allowed him to proceed.

    Checkpoints? Law enforcement demanding proof that you’re an “essential worker”?

    This angers me so much.

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  6. MarciN Member
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    I hope the world takes a moment to acknowledge that Donald Trump is actually a very smart president. :-) He did the one most intelligent thing exactly when it needed to be done–shut down travel from China–and then just looking at the weather and having lived life the way the rest of us have, he predicted that we would see the near end of this epidemic (from our country’s point of view, it’s an epidemic) on Easter. His prediction was exactly right.

    I say these two things give him enormous credibility for being really smart. :-)

    But the press will never see him that way.

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  7. Brian Watt Inactive
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    DrewInWisconsin is done with t… (View Comment):

    Brian Watt (View Comment):
    His caregiver was stopped at a sheriff’s traffic checkpoint last week and asked where he was going so late in the afternoon. He replied “To work”. The unmasked, ungloved sheriff’s deputy then asked if he had proof whether he was an essential worker. He showed the deputy a text on his cell phone from the caregiver agency stating he is an essential worker. The deputy took the phone to consult with another deputy. He eventually returned the phone to him and allowed him to proceed.

    Checkpoints? Law enforcement demanding proof that you’re an “essential worker”?

    This angers me so much.

    It should. I was incensed when he told me.

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  8. Brian Watt Inactive
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  9. Hammer, The Inactive
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    MarciN (View Comment):

    I see this “lockdown” disappearing all by itself. My mother-in-law told me a funny story years ago. Girls and women used to have to cover their head at mass. I remembered that from when I was a teenager. My best friend was Catholic, and I sometimes went to mass with her family. All of the womenfolk carried a little tiny folded-up veil to put over the top of their head whenever then went to mass. Years later I noticed that women weren’t wearing a head covering of any kind at mass in my husband’s and my church. I asked my mother-in-law about it, and she said, “They don’t wear a covering anymore. They just stopped doing it. That was the end of the story. No church policy involved. The women simply stopped doing it.” :-) And so too will end the lockdown. :-)

    I think so, too.  I have noticed more and more people going out over the past few weeks.  Businesses (like the local bike shop) have signs posted that say to wait in the parking lot and they’ll bring out what you need… but if you really need to (we bought a bike for our 8 y/o yesterday) you come in and try things out, make decisions, etc…  At some point, people just need to get back to their lives.  Considering the fact that the governments’ justification for these shutdowns has always been very weak (remember when they all said this was just for 2 weeks?  Then 2 more weeks?  Now the beginning of May?), I expect that more and more people will simply ignore them.  Frankly, that’s the way it should be.  And viruses are weird things.  I won’t be surprised at all to find that more outbreaks happen as people open up. Then again, I also won’t be surprised if this thing runs its course and even with people going back to their lives, there no longer remain enough numbers to justify state action.  I have no prediction for which will happen, and of course I’m hoping for the latter, but we have very little way of knowing.  History shows both sides of the coin.

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  10. The Reticulator Member
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    I have most of the hate media blocked on my browsers, but I’ve been doing some work on my wife’s computer and have learned that the media have been putting the hate on Sweden for not enacting the controls they want.  Then, in looking at the IHME site, I see that “Government-Mandated Social Distancing” is something that goes into their projections.

    My question is this: What is the difference between “Social Distancing” and “Government-Mandated Social Distancing.” How do people work that into their models?  

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  11. Weeping Inactive
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    Hammer, The (View Comment):
    Considering the fact that the governments’ justification for these shutdowns has always been very weak (remember when they all said this was just for 2 weeks? Then 2 more weeks? Now the beginning of May?), I expect that more and more people will simply ignore them.

    The bolded is what has concerned me the most. I never thought a lockdown of the kind we’ve seen was ever necessary, but I was willing to endure one for two or three weeks on the outside chance I was wrong. But those peak dates never seem to arrive. They just seem to be pushed back farther and farther, and the numbers (while rising a little bit) stay low. The lockdowns and other restrictions need to end – all of them, every last vestige of them – now. The projections are seriously wrong, and people need to be allowed to salvage what they can of their lives and start rebuilding.

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  12. Buckpasser Member
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    DrewInWisconsin is done with t… (View Comment):

    Brian Watt (View Comment):
    His caregiver was stopped at a sheriff’s traffic checkpoint last week and asked where he was going so late in the afternoon. He replied “To work”. The unmasked, ungloved sheriff’s deputy then asked if he had proof whether he was an essential worker. He showed the deputy a text on his cell phone from the caregiver agency stating he is an essential worker. The deputy took the phone to consult with another deputy. He eventually returned the phone to him and allowed him to proceed.

    Checkpoints? Law enforcement demanding proof that you’re an “essential worker”?

    This angers me so much.

    This is the beginning of “civil disobedience”  The more the brown sh…I mean authorities arrest law abiding citizens the closer we get to “uncivil disobedience”.

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  13. Spin Inactive
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    Brian Watt (View Comment):

    We finally have a day of sunshine in Southern California. It’s been raining or overcast for more than a week now. My son, like millions of others around the country, has been restless and edgy. In a fit of frustration the other day, he put his fist into the TV in his room and cracked the LCD screen resulting in thousands of vertical lines, damaging it beyond repair. I have not replaced it because he needs to understand that there are consequences for breaking things.

    Because it’s so nice and sunny outside today his caregiver and I made the rebellious decision to get him out of the house for a walk in the sunshine and the fresh air. I remain here at home while they are out. His caregiver will take him for a walk around one of the nearby man-made lakes and then possibly go to Target afterward to purchase something to eat. Let’s see if they get any grief or if they’re stopped by a sheriff’s deputy or local police for violating the stay-at-home mandate.

    His caregiver was stopped at a sheriff’s traffic checkpoint last week and asked where he was going so late in the afternoon. He replied “To work”. The unmasked, ungloved sheriff’s deputy then asked if he had proof whether he was an essential worker. He showed the deputy a text on his cell phone from the caregiver agency stating he is an essential worker. The deputy took the phone to consult with another deputy. He eventually returned the phone to him and allowed him to proceed.

    I’ll let you all know whether I have to bail them out of jail or if they’ve managed to allude the lockdown police.

    I didn’t know it was that bad.  I had no idea.  Here in the north west part of Washington State, we are all a bunch of scoff laws, I guess.  May I share your text above, on Facebook, leaving out your name and location?  

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  14. Brian Watt Inactive
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    Spin (View Comment):

    Brian Watt (View Comment):

    We finally have a day of sunshine in Southern California. It’s been raining or overcast for more than a week now. My son, like millions of others around the country, has been restless and edgy. In a fit of frustration the other day, he put his fist into the TV in his room and cracked the LCD screen resulting in thousands of vertical lines, damaging it beyond repair. I have not replaced it because he needs to understand that there are consequences for breaking things.

    Because it’s so nice and sunny outside today his caregiver and I made the rebellious decision to get him out of the house for a walk in the sunshine and the fresh air. I remain here at home while they are out. His caregiver will take him for a walk around one of the nearby man-made lakes and then possibly go to Target afterward to purchase something to eat. Let’s see if they get any grief or if they’re stopped by a sheriff’s deputy or local police for violating the stay-at-home mandate.

    His caregiver was stopped at a sheriff’s traffic checkpoint last week and asked where he was going so late in the afternoon. He replied “To work”. The unmasked, ungloved sheriff’s deputy then asked if he had proof whether he was an essential worker. He showed the deputy a text on his cell phone from the caregiver agency stating he is an essential worker. The deputy took the phone to consult with another deputy. He eventually returned the phone to him and allowed him to proceed.

    I’ll let you all know whether I have to bail them out of jail or if they’ve managed to allude the lockdown police.

    I didn’t know it was that bad. I had no idea. Here in the north west part of Washington State, we are all a bunch of scoff laws, I guess. May I share your text above, on Facebook, leaving out your name and location?

    By all means.

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  15. Hammer, The Inactive
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    Spin (View Comment):

    Brian Watt (View Comment):

    We finally have a day of sunshine in Southern California. It’s been raining or overcast for more than a week now. My son, like millions of others around the country, has been restless and edgy. In a fit of frustration the other day, he put his fist into the TV in his room and cracked the LCD screen resulting in thousands of vertical lines, damaging it beyond repair. I have not replaced it because he needs to understand that there are consequences for breaking things.

    Because it’s so nice and sunny outside today his caregiver and I made the rebellious decision to get him out of the house for a walk in the sunshine and the fresh air. I remain here at home while they are out. His caregiver will take him for a walk around one of the nearby man-made lakes and then possibly go to Target afterward to purchase something to eat. Let’s see if they get any grief or if they’re stopped by a sheriff’s deputy or local police for violating the stay-at-home mandate.

    His caregiver was stopped at a sheriff’s traffic checkpoint last week and asked where he was going so late in the afternoon. He replied “To work”. The unmasked, ungloved sheriff’s deputy then asked if he had proof whether he was an essential worker. He showed the deputy a text on his cell phone from the caregiver agency stating he is an essential worker. The deputy took the phone to consult with another deputy. He eventually returned the phone to him and allowed him to proceed.

    I’ll let you all know whether I have to bail them out of jail or if they’ve managed to allude the lockdown police.

    I didn’t know it was that bad. I had no idea. Here in the north west part of Washington State, we are all a bunch of scoff laws, I guess. May I share your text above, on Facebook, leaving out your name and location?

    Yeah, I never thought I’d be grateful for living in WA state in this manner… But I’m seeing some absolutely insane behavior elsewhere.

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  16. Brian Watt Inactive
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    My son and his caregiver have returned home without incident.

    Many of my neighbors are out and about enjoying the sun and fresh air. Riot squads have not materialized.

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  17. Spin Inactive
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    Hammer, The (View Comment):

    Spin (View Comment):

    Brian Watt (View Comment):

    We finally have a day of sunshine in Southern California. It’s been raining or overcast for more than a week now. My son, like millions of others around the country, has been restless and edgy. In a fit of frustration the other day, he put his fist into the TV in his room and cracked the LCD screen resulting in thousands of vertical lines, damaging it beyond repair. I have not replaced it because he needs to understand that there are consequences for breaking things.

    Because it’s so nice and sunny outside today his caregiver and I made the rebellious decision to get him out of the house for a walk in the sunshine and the fresh air. I remain here at home while they are out. His caregiver will take him for a walk around one of the nearby man-made lakes and then possibly go to Target afterward to purchase something to eat. Let’s see if they get any grief or if they’re stopped by a sheriff’s deputy or local police for violating the stay-at-home mandate.

    His caregiver was stopped at a sheriff’s traffic checkpoint last week and asked where he was going so late in the afternoon. He replied “To work”. The unmasked, ungloved sheriff’s deputy then asked if he had proof whether he was an essential worker. He showed the deputy a text on his cell phone from the caregiver agency stating he is an essential worker. The deputy took the phone to consult with another deputy. He eventually returned the phone to him and allowed him to proceed.

    I’ll let you all know whether I have to bail them out of jail or if they’ve managed to allude the lockdown police.

    I didn’t know it was that bad. I had no idea. Here in the north west part of Washington State, we are all a bunch of scoff laws, I guess. May I share your text above, on Facebook, leaving out your name and location?

    Yeah, I never thought I’d be grateful for living in WA state in this manner… But I’m seeing some absolutely insane behavior elsewhere.

    Yeah, the notion that you can’t even go outside, or for a walk, or a hike in the woods….just foreign to me.  

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  18. The Reticulator Member
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    Spin (View Comment):
    Yeah, the notion that you can’t even go outside, or for a walk, or a hike in the woods….just foreign to me.

    It’s no more essential that you go out for a hike in the woods than it’s essential that there are 23 varieties of deodorant to choose from. So, no, it is not allowed.

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  19. Hammer, The Inactive
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    Spin (View Comment):

    Hammer, The (View Comment):

    Spin (View Comment):

    Brian Watt (View Comment):

    We finally have a day of sunshine in Southern California. It’s been raining or overcast for more than a week now. My son, like millions of others around the country, has been restless and edgy. In a fit of frustration the other day, he put his fist into the TV in his room and cracked the LCD screen resulting in thousands of vertical lines, damaging it beyond repair. I have not replaced it because he needs to understand that there are consequences for breaking things.

    Because it’s so nice and sunny outside today his caregiver and I made the rebellious decision to get him out of the house for a walk in the sunshine and the fresh air. I remain here at home while they are out. His caregiver will take him for a walk around one of the nearby man-made lakes and then possibly go to Target afterward to purchase something to eat. Let’s see if they get any grief or if they’re stopped by a sheriff’s deputy or local police for violating the stay-at-home mandate.

    His caregiver was stopped at a sheriff’s traffic checkpoint last week and asked where he was going so late in the afternoon. He replied “To work”. The unmasked, ungloved sheriff’s deputy then asked if he had proof whether he was an essential worker. He showed the deputy a text on his cell phone from the caregiver agency stating he is an essential worker. The deputy took the phone to consult with another deputy. He eventually returned the phone to him and allowed him to proceed.

    I’ll let you all know whether I have to bail them out of jail or if they’ve managed to allude the lockdown police.

    I didn’t know it was that bad. I had no idea. Here in the north west part of Washington State, we are all a bunch of scoff laws, I guess. May I share your text above, on Facebook, leaving out your name and location?

    Yeah, I never thought I’d be grateful for living in WA state in this manner… But I’m seeing some absolutely insane behavior elsewhere.

    Yeah, the notion that you can’t even go outside, or for a walk, or a hike in the woods….just foreign to me.

    We just went to the bike store and got a new bicycle for our 8 year old (it was open, by the way).  People are out and pretty much everywhere.  Quite frankly, the past several days (even a week or two) has been just like an ordinary spring, except for the various businesses that are shut down, and the fact that literally every day is kind of like a Saturday with the numbers of people not at work.

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  20. OldPhil Coolidge
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    Hammer, The (View Comment):
    We just went to the bike store and got a new bicycle for our 8 year old (it was open, by the way). People are out and pretty much everywhere.

    We went to Costco today because I needed my peanut butter-filled pretzels, cashews, some crabmeat, and a few other things. Only had to wait 3 or 4 minutes to get in the store. I’m walking down the aisle and a woman has a 30-roll pack of Charmin in her basket so I asked politely “Where did you get that?” (it wasn’t in the paper goods aisle). She said “All the way in the back.” So now we’re set for at least the next year and a half. 

    I also scored a case of Solace Brewing Company’s Partly Cloudy IPA. Good stuff.

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  21. Locke On Member
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    Rodin: 1,535 deaths actually reported yesterday, ~70% of the prediction and another day in which real experience is performing better than predicted.

    Unfortunately for this theory, today is showing 2,284 deaths at worldometers, with several states yet to report.  Strong upward ticks from all five of the states with most cases.  This could be an artifact of reporting from the Easter weekend coming in, but then so would the 1,535 figure cited.

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  22. Spin Inactive
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    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Spin (View Comment):
    Yeah, the notion that you can’t even go outside, or for a walk, or a hike in the woods….just foreign to me.

    It’s no more essential that you go out for a hike in the woods than it’s essential that there are 23 varieties of deodorant to choose from. So, no, it is not allowed.

    You and I have a different definition of “essential”.  Now you’ll start telling me I think like Bernie Sanders, right?

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  23. Spin Inactive
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    Hammer, The (View Comment):
    We just went to the bike store and got a new bicycle for our 8 year old (it was open, by the way).

    Will you get me a new bike, too?  I need one.

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  24. DrewInWisconsin is done with t… Member
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    Locke On (View Comment):

    Rodin: 1,535 deaths actually reported yesterday, ~70% of the prediction and another day in which real experience is performing better than predicted.

    Unfortunately for this theory, today is showing 2,284 deaths at worldometers, with several states yet to report. Strong upward ticks from all five of the states with most cases. This could be an artifact of reporting from the Easter weekend coming in, but then so would the 1,535 figure cited.

    Those are new deaths, which are likely “old cases.” The number of new cases is once again lower than yesterday.

     

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  25. Locke On Member
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    DrewInWisconsin is done with t… (View Comment):

    Locke On (View Comment):

    Rodin: 1,535 deaths actually reported yesterday, ~70% of the prediction and another day in which real experience is performing better than predicted.

    Unfortunately for this theory, today is showing 2,284 deaths at worldometers, with several states yet to report. Strong upward ticks from all five of the states with most cases. This could be an artifact of reporting from the Easter weekend coming in, but then so would the 1,535 figure cited.

    Those are new deaths, which are likely “old cases.” The number of new cases is once again lower than yesterday.

    Yes, it looks like they dumped all of their retrospective C19 cases in on one day.

    On the more optimistic side:

    https://www.wate.com/news/local-news/knox-county-mayor-glenn-jacobs-outlines-6-week-phased-reopening-plan-from-coronavirus-shutdown/

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  26. DrewInWisconsin is done with t… Member
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  27. Hammer, The Inactive
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    Spin (View Comment):

    Hammer, The (View Comment):
    We just went to the bike store and got a new bicycle for our 8 year old (it was open, by the way).

    Will you get me a new bike, too? I need one.

    It’s only a 2 or 3 hour drive to yakima- you’re welcome to come ride with us. Finley is wanting to ride the bike nonstop.

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  28. MichaelKennedy Inactive
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    re The Deputies from Theodore Dalrymple’s “The Uses of Corruption.”

    https://www.city-journal.org/html/uses-corruption-12180.html

    Admittedly, corruption is a strange kind of virtue: but so is honesty in pursuit of useless or harmful ends. Corruption is generally held to be a vice, and viewed in the abstract, it is. But bad behavior can sometimes have good effects, and good behavior bad effects.

    Where administration is light and bureaucracy small, bureaucratic honesty is an incomparable virtue; but where these are heavy and large, as in all modern European states, Britain and Italy not least among them, they burden and obstruct the inventive and energetic. Where bureaucrats are honest, no one can cut through their Laocoönian coils: their procedures, no matter how onerous, antiquated, or bloody-minded, must be endured patiently. Such bureaucrats can

    neither be hurried in their deliberations nor made to see common sense. Indeed, the very absurdity or pedantry of these deliberations is for them the guarantee of their own fair-mindedness, impartiality, and disinterest. To treat all people with equal contempt and indifference is the bureaucrat’s idea of equity

    This is increasingly applying to the USA.

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  29. Roderic Coolidge
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    Rodin: But it made it possible for our health care system to meet the challenge and not break which would have made deaths from all causes more numerous. And while there were some places where the health care system got pretty dented, it held.

    It’s a little early to be declaring victory.

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    Hammer, The (View Comment):
    We just went to the bike store and got a new bicycle for our 8 year old (it was open, by the way).

    Will you get me a new bike, too? I need one.

    It’s only a 2 or 3 hour drive to yakima- you’re welcome to come ride with us. Finley is wanting to ride the bike nonstop.

    I don’t go to Yakima.  I avoid Yakima.  Unless I want to go to the Little Brown Smokeshack.  But that’s not technically in Yakima.  

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