Progressives, Policing, and the 9-1-1 Phone Tree

 

Inside every Progressive, there is a totalitarian screaming to get out. This includes unelected Progressives. In our current situation with COVID-19, there is a great deal of anxiety about an unseen aggressor, and some people are on the ragged edge of being unable to control their rage. Rage that probably existed before the spread of COVID-19. Climate change rage, Russia election interference rage, Ukraine election interference rage, funding the Kennedy Center rage, funding Public Broadcasting rage, and grocery bag rage. There is always a smorgasbord of grievances available for the perpetually aggrieved.

You have reached 9-1-1-Please listen carefully as our selections have changed:
Press 1 if you want us to raise your children for you.
Press 2 if your neighbor’s dog is barking.
Press 2 again if you haven’t talked to your neighbor about the dog.
Press 2 again if you don’t know your neighbor’s name.

Selection #1 applies to school administrators that want a school resource officer to enforce administrative rules contained in the school handbook. There are state laws that are enforceable in a school; bringing a firearm to school, trying to burn down the gym, selling, or possession of meth, heroin, ecstasy, or removing non-students that are trespassing. Putting a six-year-old that hasn’t been socialized in handcuffs is not the proper use of a school resource officer. Standing-by when mommy or daddy comes to take the little angel home is a proper choice. Chances are mommy or daddy haven’t been socialized.

Selection #2 not only applies to the barking dog, it applies to all the informants that have discovered expressing their anger has moved beyond hiding behind an avatar. COVID-19 has unleashed them. Nothing is more dangerous than a father and daughter playing T-ball in a public park.

Governors and mayors should realize that police officers and deputies are not a private army. Police officers and deputies do not take an oath that includes the name of the governor, current mayor, or school administrator.

Be careful out there.

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  1. Hoyacon Member
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    We may need to add a number to report felonious couple-spreading, which is apparently the latest threat to the Republic.

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  2. Percival Thatcher
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    Doug Watt: Putting a six-year old that hasn’t been socialized in handcuffs is not the proper use of a school resource officer.

    knew that was a rotten bust!

    Somebody owes me an apology!

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  3. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    It seems to me that overzealous police are as much a problem as anyone wanting a private army. Did the mayor order that dad into handcuffs?

    Also, how billigerent was he? I don’t know enough.

    I think we would all be better off if people toned down the outrage machine for a while. 

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  4. The Reticulator Member
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    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    It seems to me that overzealous police are as much a problem as anyone wanting a private army. Did the mayor order that dad into handcuffs?

    Also, how billigerent was he? I don’t know enough.

    I think we would all be better off if people toned down the outrage machine for a while.

    I’m outraged that you don’t approve of people using their 1st amendment right to express outrage.  

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  5. EJHill Podcaster
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    The eternal question and its elusive answer in the 20th Century is, “How did a nation of otherwise intelligent people in Germany succumb to the siren song of one Adolf Hitler?”

    I think you’re seeing it here. Once you’re convinced that your life is in danger, there’s nothing you’re not willing to do, including turning in your neighbors in a heartbeat, even if all they’re doing is existing.

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  6. Doug Watt Member
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    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    It seems to me that overzealous police are as much a problem as anyone wanting a private army. Did the mayor order that dad into handcuffs?

    Also, how billigerent was he? I don’t know enough.

    I think we would all be better off if people toned down the outrage machine for a while.

    Actually there might be a pretty good chance that the mayor did issue the order for the arrest for anyone in a public park, to not only remove, but also to arrest anyone violating the shelter at home rule.

     

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  7. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    Doug Watt (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    It seems to me that overzealous police are as much a problem as anyone wanting a private army. Did the mayor order that dad into handcuffs?

    Also, how billigerent was he? I don’t know enough.

    I think we would all be better off if people toned down the outrage machine for a while.

    Actually there might be a pretty good chance that the mayor did issue the order for the arrest for anyone in a public park, to not only remove, but also to arrest anyone violating the shelter at home rule.

     

    OK. Then those people there can vote against their mayor. It is not apparently a high issue where I live. 

     

     

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  8. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    EJHill (View Comment):

    The eternal question and its elusive answer in the 20th Century is, “How did a nation of otherwise intelligent people in Germany succumb to the siren song of one Adolf Hitler?”

    I think you’re seeing it here. Once you’re convinced that your life is in danger, there’s nothing you’re not willing to do, including turning in your neighbors in a heartbeat, even if all they’re doing is existing.

    You are comparing this to Nazi Germany?

    Wow.

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  9. Juliana Member
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    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    EJHill (View Comment):

    The eternal question and its elusive answer in the 20th Century is, “How did a nation of otherwise intelligent people in Germany succumb to the siren song of one Adolf Hitler?”

    I think you’re seeing it here. Once you’re convinced that your life is in danger, there’s nothing you’re not willing to do, including turning in your neighbors in a heartbeat, even if all they’re doing is existing.

    You are comparing this to Nazi Germany?

    Wow.

    I don’t think it would take a very large leap to go from today’s screaming mimi’s about kids playing on a playground to a socially-distanced mob coming after their parents. No, we haven’t devolved into to torture as the Nazi’s so quickly did, nor do I think we will, but we are living among more thugs and denouncers than I think we realize. Just look at the bullies on social media if you need examples.

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  10. Barfly Member
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    Juliana (View Comment):
    No, we haven’t devolved into to torture as the Nazi’s so quickly did, nor do I think we will, but we are living among more thugs and denouncers than I think we realize. Just look at the bullies on social media if you need examples.

    That’s true if you take the social media population and extrapolate from it, but I don’t think things are as bad as that – I think the nastier sort gravitate to social media.

     

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  11. EJHill Podcaster
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    Bryan G. Stephens: You are comparing this to Nazi Germany?

    No. I’m comparing the weaknesses of human nature. 

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  12. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    EJHill (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens: You are comparing this to Nazi Germany?

    No. I’m comparing the weaknesses of human nature.

    I think that is hyperbolic comparison. Americans are not pre Nazi Germans.

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  13. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    Barfly (View Comment):

    Juliana (View Comment):
    No, we haven’t devolved into to torture as the Nazi’s so quickly did, nor do I think we will, but we are living among more thugs and denouncers than I think we realize. Just look at the bullies on social media if you need examples.

    That’s true if you take the social media population and extrapolate from it, but I don’t think things are as bad as that – I think the nastier sort gravitate to social media.

     

    Well said so I don’t have too.

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  14. Headedwest Coolidge
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    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Doug Watt (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    It seems to me that overzealous police are as much a problem as anyone wanting a private army. Did the mayor order that dad into handcuffs?

    Also, how billigerent was he? I don’t know enough.

    I think we would all be better off if people toned down the outrage machine for a while.

    Actually there might be a pretty good chance that the mayor did issue the order for the arrest for anyone in a public park, to not only remove, but also to arrest anyone violating the shelter at home rule.

     

    OK. Then those people there can vote against their mayor. It is not apparently a high issue where I live.

     

     

    “I’ve got mine, Jack.”

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  15. The Reticulator Member
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    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    EJHill (View Comment):

    The eternal question and its elusive answer in the 20th Century is, “How did a nation of otherwise intelligent people in Germany succumb to the siren song of one Adolf Hitler?”

    I think you’re seeing it here. Once you’re convinced that your life is in danger, there’s nothing you’re not willing to do, including turning in your neighbors in a heartbeat, even if all they’re doing is existing.

    You are comparing this to Nazi Germany?

    Wow.

    Some people even compare Germany in 1930 to Nazi Germany, believe it or not. It’s weird, because the two don’t have the slightest connection to each other.  

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  16. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    Headedwest (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Doug Watt (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    It seems to me that overzealous police are as much a problem as anyone wanting a private army. Did the mayor order that dad into handcuffs?

    Also, how billigerent was he? I don’t know enough.

    I think we would all be better off if people toned down the outrage machine for a while.

    Actually there might be a pretty good chance that the mayor did issue the order for the arrest for anyone in a public park, to not only remove, but also to arrest anyone violating the shelter at home rule.

     

    OK. Then those people there can vote against their mayor. It is not apparently a high issue where I live.

     

     

    “I’ve got mine, Jack.”

    More of a “You get who you vote for”

    Really now, what should  my reaction be? Outraged? I might as well get pissed off by the gun laws in NJ. I dont live there. If the voters want to give up their rights in that state, not sure why I should get my panties in a wad. I have enough on my plate.

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  17. Phil Turmel Inactive
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    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):
    If the voters want to give up their rights in that state, not sure why I should get my panties in a wad. I have enough on my plate.

    Wait! Panties?

    Is there a new Bryan I haven’t met? (:

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  18. Stad Coolidge
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    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    EJHill (View Comment):

    The eternal question and its elusive answer in the 20th Century is, “How did a nation of otherwise intelligent people in Germany succumb to the siren song of one Adolf Hitler?”

    I think you’re seeing it here. Once you’re convinced that your life is in danger, there’s nothing you’re not willing to do, including turning in your neighbors in a heartbeat, even if all they’re doing is existing.

    You are comparing this to Nazi Germany?

    Wow.

    I recommend this series of lessons from The Great Courses:

    https://www.thegreatcourses.com/courses/history-of-hitler-s-empire-2nd-edition.html

    It was a real eye-opener just how a malevolent individual came into power in a democracy . . .

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  19. The Reticulator Member
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    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):
    More of a “You get who you vote for”

    I seldom get who I vote for. 

    But under our constitutional system of limited government, the damage can be limited. And I have recourse to other means than voting.  

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  20. Weeping Inactive
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    Stad (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    EJHill (View Comment):

    The eternal question and its elusive answer in the 20th Century is, “How did a nation of otherwise intelligent people in Germany succumb to the siren song of one Adolf Hitler?”

    I think you’re seeing it here. Once you’re convinced that your life is in danger, there’s nothing you’re not willing to do, including turning in your neighbors in a heartbeat, even if all they’re doing is existing.

    You are comparing this to Nazi Germany?

    Wow.

    I recommend this series of lessons from The Great Courses:

    https://www.thegreatcourses.com/courses/history-of-hitler-s-empire-2nd-edition.html

    It was a real eye-opener just how a malevolent individual came into power in a democracy . . .

    In case anyone’s interested, here’s a link to the course at The Great Courses Plus site (the Great Courses’ Netflix-like streaming site): A History of Hitler’s Empire, 2nd Edition

    Thanks for mentioning the course, Stad. It looks interesting.

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  21. Darin Johnson Member
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    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    OK. Then those people there can vote against their mayor. It is not apparently a high issue where I live.

    That’s all well and good, but you’re writing off huge swaths of what is supposed to be America. 

    “Don’t like living under liberal governors and mayors?  Move to Texas!” 

    I don’t actually think that’s much of a solution.  Do you?

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  22. Doug Watt Member
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    Having experience in policing in a large city, around 4ooK population to include a metro area outside the city limits of about 1.5M residents during my time on the street, the political aspects are to put it politely, interesting. Street cops are on the lowest rung of the political ladder. The mayor can fire a police chief at any time for any reason. This applies to any city in the United States. Moving to Texas doesn’t change this. Houston, Dallas, and Austin have the same issues with politicizing law enforcement.

    Rural areas can be a bit different. County sheriffs are an elected position, although big urban area county sheriff’s such as LA, Florida, and Chicago can be plagued with political law enforcement. Combine this with George Soros financed DA’s can really screw-up the parade.

    My city is now having trouble recruiting new officers, as is Seattle, and Chicago. Standards have been lowered, and that’s not going to benefit the residents of any city. Truth be told most mayors, and city council members are to the left of Bernie Sanders. They don’t just disdain police officers, they hate them.

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  23. Barfly Member
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    Doug Watt (View Comment):
    Combine this with George Soros financed DA’s can really screw-up the parade.

    That’s getting to be a big problem.

    Doug Watt (View Comment):
    Truth be told most mayors, and city council members are to the left of Bernie Sanders. They don’t just disdain police officers, they hate them.

    That too.

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  24. Headedwest Coolidge
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    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Headedwest (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Doug Watt (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    It seems to me that overzealous police are as much a problem as anyone wanting a private army. Did the mayor order that dad into handcuffs?

    Also, how billigerent was he? I don’t know enough.

    I think we would all be better off if people toned down the outrage machine for a while.

    Actually there might be a pretty good chance that the mayor did issue the order for the arrest for anyone in a public park, to not only remove, but also to arrest anyone violating the shelter at home rule.

     

    OK. Then those people there can vote against their mayor. It is not apparently a high issue where I live.

     

     

    “I’ve got mine, Jack.”

    More of a “You get who you vote for”

    Really now, what should my reaction be? Outraged? I might as well get pissed off by the gun laws in NJ. I dont live there. If the voters want to give up their rights in that state, not sure why I should get my panties in a wad. I have enough on my plate.

     

    You should be pissed off by the gun laws in NJ.  All it takes is some migration from deep blue states and Soros money and you get Colorado or Virginia.  Virginia got pretty close to NJ gun laws in a few weeks.

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  25. Weeping Inactive
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    Darin Johnson (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    OK. Then those people there can vote against their mayor. It is not apparently a high issue where I live.

    That’s all well and good, but you’re writing off huge swaths of what is supposed to be America.

    “Don’t like living under liberal governors and mayors? Move to Texas!”

    I don’t actually think that’s much of a solution. Do you?

    That doesn’t always work. There are liberal governors and mayors here too.

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  26. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    Headedwest (View Comment):
    You should be pissed off by the gun laws in NJ. All it takes is some migration from deep blue states and Soros money and you get Colorado or Virginia. Virginia got pretty close to NJ gun laws in a few weeks.

    sorry,

    Not reasonable to panic about things I cannot control. 

    In fact, I refuse. 

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  27. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    Basically, you people love to be outragaged or scared about something. 

    Just too much energy. 

     

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  28. Headedwest Coolidge
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    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Headedwest (View Comment):
    You should be pissed off by the gun laws in NJ. All it takes is some migration from deep blue states and Soros money and you get Colorado or Virginia. Virginia got pretty close to NJ gun laws in a few weeks.

    sorry,

    Not reasonable to panic about things I cannot control.

    In fact, I refuse.

    I did not say panic.

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  29. Titus Techera Contributor
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    Damn skippy, Doug!

    It’s remarkable how many crazy politicians are playing around with tyranny now. Not a surprise, but it would be great if people with your sense of humor had influence now.

    I just read that the Dem Gov. of Kentucky says people who go to Easter mass will be photographed & forced into quarantine for two weeks by state officials. One hopes it’s just a bit of hysteria, plus the liberal love of kicking Christians around, & it doesn’t turn into a real problem.

    The Dem Gov of Michigan is also encouraging madness with incredibly strict decrees.

    At a deeper level, I read news of hysterical demands in the name of public health & tyrannic decrees by nobody politicians & I worry that the lawless are the law in so many places. We will find out how many people share your good sense in America, whether there’s pride in citizens & some ability to organize, take care of each other. That’s what law rests on… It’s not on the face of it obvious why people in Kentucky or Michigan should be terrified about a NYC crisis. They might be able to help New York somehow, but why panic at home?

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  30. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    Headedwest (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Headedwest (View Comment):
    You should be pissed off by the gun laws in NJ. All it takes is some migration from deep blue states and Soros money and you get Colorado or Virginia. Virginia got pretty close to NJ gun laws in a few weeks.

    sorry,

    Not reasonable to panic about things I cannot control.

    In fact, I refuse.

    I did not say panic.

    The calls to panic about lost rights for-evah are all over this site. 

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