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Almost two decades ago, I sat in class as a senior at the University of Minnesota’s Carlson School of Management surrounded by classmates who already had internships and jobs lined up with the businesses headquartered in Minnesota that were household names across the country: 3M, Target, General Mills, Best Buy, and Cargill. My business classes contrasted with electives in political science and history (and a dance class I’ve since memory-holed). But a common theme they shared was convincing students – the next generation of leaders – that America is on the decline and must take a submissive role to China to ease it into a more “Western” culture. Decades later, we see the results of this policy: a China that has more influence on the west than the west has on it.

But this promised American decline met an interruption by way of a global pandemic. It woke us from the dream of the Chinese Communist Party replacing portraits of Mao with those of Washington or Reagan. The COVID outbreak revealed the flaw that in China, modernized does not equal westernized. Despite our efforts to open China to a more democratic system by increasing trade and largely ignoring its political, religious, and cultural abuses, the Chinese regime has tightened its totalitarian grip.

Since Xi Jinping became President of the People’s Republic of China in 2012, he has significantly centralized institutional power. It’s true the regime has invested in modernizing its infrastructure, military, and internet capabilities. But, in true dictatorial form, Xi appointed himself to numerous leadership positions and established his Belt and Road Initiative – a vague economic trade and infrastructure policy that looks more like military expansionism and economic aggression with each passing month.

The internet is heavily censored. Facial recognition technology is used to track and monitor citizens. Instead of the invisible hand of the market, Xi rules with an iron fist, cracking down on Hong Kong demonstrators staging protests for their freedom. What little news that escapes the filters of the state is horrific: mass persecution of religious groups, organ harvesting, and reeducation camps.

This is not the democracy our globalist elites and academics promised when they talked of cheap sneakers and iPhones. Instead, we are doing business with a lying regime that employs slave labor in factories and holds the health of Americans hostage by threatening to cut off supplies of pharmaceuticals and hospital equipment.

A democratic China open for free trade with the United States was like the grand prize at the globalization carnival, except they didn’t realize the game was fixed. Just like shelling out $40 bucks for the chance to win a shoddy, giant stuffed panda, our deals came at a high cost. For cheap goods “Made in China,” we outsourced our manufacturing at the expense of American jobs. Hollywood stars who win the adoration of their peer-sheep use self-congratulatory awards shows to bleat virtue signals against Tyrant Trump while licking the boots of Chinese censors in pursuit of the almighty dollar. Democrats who staged photo-ops at the Mexican border and howled about kids in cages and xenophobic Republicans say nothing about the ethnic Uighurs persecuted for practicing their religion in the Xinjiang province or the brutal one-child policy. Anyone who claims the current administration is approaching a dictatorship might want to read up on what happens in China when a citizen criticizes the regime or makes any reference to Winnie the Pooh.

The hypocrisy is well documented, but it frightens me to witness the ease in which Americans accept the very authoritarian state established in Communist China. President Xi and his regime use state-sanctioned media to control messaging and propagate their approved narrative. Opposing voices are non-existent or have an odd way of being “disappeared.”

The US news media have done the work of Chinese propagandists. Journalists at the White House COVID briefings, network pundits, and news anchors have put their disdain for the President ahead of their duty to fairly report on the facts. Watching CNN, I wonder if they’re somehow agents in a real-life “Manchurian Candidate” scenario, except here they stoke panic and fear to drive people to seek security in the government. But the cost of security is control. Businesses are forced to shutter their doors; neighbors are snitching on each other for violating distancing rules; drones are monitoring parks and recreation areas. At work, I was asked by a lady and her daughter (wearing full face masks) if this was the new normal. “Only if we choose it,” was my reply.

The same people who predict America’s inevitable decline look to the totalitarian regime of China as a model of the future. They repeat the same claims of efficiency, order, unity, and expediency. In 2009, political commentator Thomas Friedman wrote in the New York Times

One party autocracy certainly has its drawbacks. But when it is led by a reasonably enlightened group of people, as China is today, it can also have great advantages. That one party can just impose the politically difficult but critically important policies needed to move a society forward in the 21st century. It is not an accident that China is committed to overtaking us in electric cars, solar power, energy efficiency, batteries, nuclear power and wind power.

So yes, they can make snap decisions about the path of the nation, but that same regime will also seal you in your apartment if you contract a highly contagious disease, then lie to the world about it. But don’t worry, the government also controls the means of production of cremation urns — nothing to see here!

American declinists said the same about the Soviet Union but America proved them wrong and won the Cold War. Democracy is messy, slow, and frustrating, but we still have our voice and our liberty. We need to give up on the idea that a modernized China equates to a more liberal China. We need to turn our attention inward and make certain, in this vulnerable time, we don’t give in to our fear and trade our freedom for a semblance of security. This too will pass, and America will come out stronger than ever, much to the chagrin of the China apologists. And I’ll believe China has been fully westernized when they fully embrace a different sort of homegrown, Minnesota company: Hormel — the maker of Spam.

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  1. RushBabe49 Thatcher

    My sentiments exactly! Great post, Jenna. (MA Psychology, U of Minnesota 1973)

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    • April 8, 2020, at 12:52 PM PDT
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  2. David Foster Member
    David Foster Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    JennaStocker: modernized does not equal westernized.

    Indeed, even modernized and geographically western does does not equal “westernized” in the sense of democratic governance, respect for individual rights, etc. Wilhelmine Germany was very advanced technologically, especially in chemical and electrical industries. Its much more evil successor, Nazi Germany, was also quite advanced, especially in aircraft design and manufacturing.

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  3. E. Kent Golding Member

    We should not buy medicine, food, or critical technologies from countries hostile to us. Trade is good, but if the goods are truly necessary they should be sourced either at home or from generally friendly countries. I am OK with all Apple products being made in China.

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  4. EODmom Coolidge

    David Foster (View Comment):

    JennaStocker: modernized does not equal westernized.

    Indeed, even modernized and geographically western does does not equal “westernized” in the sense of democratic governance, respect for individual rights, etc. Wilhelmine Germany was very advanced technologically, especially in chemical and electrical industries. Its much more evil successor, Nazi Germany, was also quite advanced, especially in aircraft design and manufacturing.

    I think of it rather in terms of civilization, which does not include slavery, stoning, genital mutilation, totalitarian governance, euthanasia, abortion nor rejecting common law. Regardless of geography. 

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  5. JennaStocker Member
    JennaStocker

    RushBabe49 (View Comment):

    My sentiments exactly! Great post, Jenna. (MA Psychology, U of Minnesota 1973)

    Thank you- and from a fellow Gopher!!

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  6. JennaStocker Member
    JennaStocker

    David Foster (View Comment):

    JennaStocker: modernized does not equal westernized.

    Indeed, even modernized and geographically western does does not equal “westernized” in the sense of democratic governance, respect for individual rights, etc. Wilhelmine Germany was very advanced technologically, especially in chemical and electrical industries. Its much more evil successor, Nazi Germany, was also quite advanced, especially in aircraft design and manufacturing.

    Very good point. I think there’s a unique altruistic nature embedded in America that (even in our efforts in, say, the Middle East) prevents us from being aggressors or conquerors, but feel western democracy is the pathway to liberty. But as history shows, not even good intentions can will freedom. It’s time to move on from that mentality.

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  7. JennaStocker Member
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    E. Kent Golding (View Comment):

    We should not buy medicine, food, or critical technologies from countries hostile to us. Trade is good, but if the goods are truly necessary they should be sourced either at home or from generally friendly countries. I am OK with all Apple products being made in China.

    Someone get you a cabinet post!

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  8. WI Con Member
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    Terrific post Jenna. That’s something old Trump deserves a lot of credit for, standing up to China and changing this “inevitability” mindset of China as work leader. 

    Another, somewhat unrelated point/question: the topic of the reimportation of prescription drugs to save money always seems to have people on the Right defending the pharmacutical industry. Is this even an ‘American’ industry anymore, considering China has threatened supplies? We keep hearing how ‘the American pharmacutical industry leads the world, cures the most diseases…’ but is it even American anymore and where have those profits gone then if all the production has been outsourced? Seems like we just protected their mark-up, not the capacity to actually make anything. 

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  9. David Foster Member
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    Re pharmaceuticals…at an investment site, someone who had a lot of experience in the pharma industry said that in his experience, it wasn’t so much labor costs that drove offshoring as relative hassle factor….ie, build a pharma factor in New Jersey or Pennsylvania, the local officials will make your life miserable trying to get all the required approvals…but do it in China, the local mayor will take you out for a wonderful dinner and grease the skids to get your plant approved fast.

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  10. JennaStocker Member
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    WI Con (View Comment):

    Terrific post Jenna. That’s something old Trump deserves a lot of credit for, standing up to China and changing this “inevitability” mindset of China as work leader.

    Another, somewhat unrelated point/question: the topic of the reimportation of prescription drugs to save money always seems to have people on the Right defending the pharmacutical industry. Is this even an ‘American’ industry anymore, considering China has threatened supplies? We keep hearing how ‘the American pharmacutical industry leads the world, cures the most diseases…’ but is it even American anymore and where have those profits gone then if all the production has been outsourced? Seems like we just protected their mark-up, not the capacity to actually make anything.

    I think that is an excellent question. What gets lost in the conversation is separating R&D (reliably a very timely, very expensive process) and the supply chain to manufacture the pharmaceuticals. We have to protect American business investment in finding treatments and cures (China has repeatedly been caught stealing intellectual property from drug companies) so they continue to do so, and do so very well. Once a drug is on the market, the raw materials are often harvested in foreign countries & even manufacturing could be outsourced to foreign plants. I’m all for keeping the whole process in the USA, as it was only a few decades ago.

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  11. OmegaPaladin Moderator

    In case it is not obvious, I agree completely with this article. China is a capitalist, modernized, tyrannical dictatorship. They are our enemy.

    Xi the Pooh
    Xi Jinping
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  12. Unsk Member

    Great Post Jenna. Amen. 

    China is our enemy. They are seeking to destroy us. We need to act accordingly. As soon as we can decouple from them the better and we need to do so totally. 

    The fight to decouple though will be hellacious. Many powerful interests, including almost all of Big Tech, Big Media, the Big Banks and Big Pharma, want to continue to trade as usual with China. They have billions invested in China in deals that serve the ChiComs’s interests and do not want to walk away from those investments, no matter how they hurt America. Sorry but anyone with a brain could have seen this humongous problem coming, and if these huge corporations take it in the shorts so be it. Only a very tiny segment of America is benefiting from these investments and much of America is being hurt by it.

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  13. JennaStocker Member
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    OmegaPaladin (View Comment):

    In case it is not obvious, I agree completely with this article. China is a capitalist, modernized, tyrannical dictatorship. They are our enemy.

    Xi the PoohXi Jinping

     

     

     

     

    Well done! And for your effort you’ve earned an extended stay at Xi’s House of Re-Education For The Attitudinally Challenged.

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  14. JennaStocker Member
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    Unsk (View Comment):

    Great Post Jenna. Amen.

    China is our enemy. They are seeking to destroy us. We need to act accordingly. As soon as we can decouple from them the better and we need to do so totally.

    The fight to decouple though will be hellacious. Many powerful interests, including almost all of Big Tech, Big Media, the Big Banks and Big Pharma, want to continue to trade as usual with China. They have billions invested in China in deals that serve the ChiComs’s interests and do not want to walk away from those investments, no matter how they hurt America. Sorry but anyone with a brain could have seen this humongous problem coming, and if these huge corporations take it in the shorts so be it. Only a very tiny segment of America is benefiting from these investments and much of America is being hurt by it.

    Well said. I hope this puts an end to the lie that China is a fair trade partner. They’ve taken advantage of us for decades while our leaders kick the problematic aspects right down the road. We’ve officially run out of road.

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  15. Front Seat Cat Member

    The bottom line has been the worship of money – cheap goods. President George W. Bush, who’s 9/11 crisis echoes Trumps, looked into Putin’s eyes and saw his soul – and admitted he was wrong in his memoirs. Past presidents, including Trump, have also chosen to feed the Beast, while China’s human rights records were thrown out with the bath water. The warning signs have been there for years. I watched on public forums when our military warned that parts from China were faulty. Then there was toothpaste, pet food, drywall, children’s toys – recall after recall of tainted product, along with years of cyber theft and breaches galore. Oh….and there’s that little ditty about biological espionage, just before the outbreak of COVID-19:

    https://www.justice.gov/usao-ma/pr/harvard-university-professor-and-two-chinese-nationals-charged-three-separate-china

    The big clincher was when the Vatican – namely the current Pope, signed an agreement with China last year, to allow them to choose the ordained, and sold out the underground church, even though they have been bulldozing churches and imprisoning the faithful for a long time.

    Communists take no prisoners – they only know complete submission, while they smile at the West (Xi Ping’s constant smirk makes me sick to my stomach). I don’t know if this is cosmic payback, or a big wake up call, but we get the message. For all their savvy modernity, with 5G, and facial recognition technology, their back woods wet markets caused this, and I to this day, don’t believe it was all an accident. Enough said. Excellent post – a subject that will be scrutinized for some time to come!

     

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  16. CarolJoy, Above Top Secret Coolidge

    I got this far into your essay, and then sat stunned.

    Did you reaally write this? “Despite our efforts to open China to a more democratic system by increasing trade and largely ignoring its political, religious, and cultural abuses, the Chinese regime has tightened its totalitarian grip.”

    Our trade with China has involved the fact that most people in our society, even the Lefties, think that slavery is wrong, unless it is done by some guy or woman off there in China land. That individual is lucky if they get a ten minute break in a 14 hour work day. The people overseas who build our cell phones, who assemble our sports equipment and running shoes, are nowhere near achieving a “democratic” lifestyle because of the fact the third world factory systems suck the the life out of workers long before they’ve worked a year or two in one of those slave cities.

    If you haven’t read about life in Foxconn, the premier city in China for low paid, worked into the ground laborers, maybe it is time you did:

    https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/jun/18/foxconn-life-death-forbidden-city-longhua-suicide-apple-iphone-brian-merchant-one-device-extract

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  17. Aaron Miller Member
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    Ironically, the exporting of an entire critical industry to foreign facilities is a natural expression of free market capitalism. It makes good sense for each individual company; just not for society as a whole. Perhaps freedom must be limited afterall. 

    Exported manufacturing is not a loss of jobs so much as an exchange of jobs. Service industries have risen as factory labor has declined in America. Unemployment has not increased in proportion to exported production. 

    All sorts of questions need to be answered in regard to national security, general prosperity, and liberty. The answers are not as simple as bringing the jobs back home. If this economic turn enables deregulation all around, that would be a great start.

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  18. Doug Watt Moderator

    China, and Russia for that matter are really third world nations with first nation military capabilities. They are both looters in the classical sense. Americans are very naïve. We still have enemies, and some of our enemies are homegrown. They range from big tech, to retailers looking for cheap labor. Bernie Sanders honeymooned in the Soviet Union, but unless I’m mistaken he never purchased a beach home in North Korea. 

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  19. David Foster Member
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    JennaStocker: Almost two decades ago, I sat in class as a senior at the University of Minnesota’s Carlson School of Management surrounded by classmates who already had internships and jobs lined up with the businesses headquartered in Minnesota that were household names across the country: 3M, Target, General Mills, Best Buy, and Cargill. My business classes contrasted with electives in political science and history (and a dance class I’ve since memory-holed). But a common theme they shared was convincing students – the next generation of leaders – that America is on the decline and must take a submissive role to China to ease it into a more “Western” culture.

    Did it really start this early? I was under the impression that most politicians & businesspeople in those days expected China’s growth to be a lot slower than it turned out to be.

    Certainly, a lot of businesses were thinking in terms of *selling* stuff into a large Chinese market, probably more than were thinking in terms of offshoring production there.

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  20. kedavis Member

    David Foster (View Comment):

    JennaStocker: Almost two decades ago, I sat in class as a senior at the University of Minnesota’s Carlson School of Management surrounded by classmates who already had internships and jobs lined up with the businesses headquartered in Minnesota that were household names across the country: 3M, Target, General Mills, Best Buy, and Cargill. My business classes contrasted with electives in political science and history (and a dance class I’ve since memory-holed). But a common theme they shared was convincing students – the next generation of leaders – that America is on the decline and must take a submissive role to China to ease it into a more “Western” culture.

    Did it really start this early? I was under the impression that most politicians & businesspeople in those days expected China’s growth to be a lot slower than it turned out to be.

    Certainly, a lot of businesses were thinking in terms of *selling* stuff into a large Chinese market, probably more than were thinking in terms of offshoring production there.

    Early? 20 years ago was the year 2000! If anything I expect it started a good deal earlier.

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  21. Zafar Member

    CarolJoy, Above Top Secret (View Comment):
    Our trade with China has involved the fact that most people in our society, even the Lefties, think that slavery is wrong, unless it is done by some guy or woman off there in China land.

    Well, out of sight out of mind. Also, every time I buy some of that stuff I’m voting with my wallet.

    The trade will result in freedoms argument is a bit hard to fathom. Prosperity can result in a greater desire for liberty (hence Tiananmen) but it can also result in the fear of losing things (hence acceptance of the social credit system).

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  22. JennaStocker Member
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    CarolJoy, Above Top Secret (View Comment):

    I got this far into your essay, and then sat stunned.

    Did you reaally write this? “Despite our efforts to open China to a more democratic system by increasing trade and largely ignoring its political, religious, and cultural abuses, the Chinese regime has tightened its totalitarian grip.”

    Our trade with China has involved the fact that most people in our society, even the Lefties, think that slavery is wrong, unless it is done by some guy or woman off there in China land. That individual is lucky if they get a ten minute break in a 14 hour work day. The people overseas who build our cell phones, who assemble our sports equipment and running shoes, are nowhere near achieving a “democratic” lifestyle because of the fact the third world factory systems suck the the life out of workers long before they’ve worked a year or two in one of those slave cities.

    If you haven’t read about life in Foxconn, the premier city in China for low paid, worked into the ground laborers, ,maybe it is time you did:

    https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/jun/18/foxconn-life-death-forbidden-city-longhua-suicide-apple-iphone-brian-merchant-one-device-extract

    @Caroljoy This is exactly the point I was making. Maybe I wasn’t clear, so my apologies. Our political “betters” assumed opening trade would have a democratizing influence on China – including eradicating the human rights abuses, religious persecution, and restrictions on liberty that comes with a communist regime. But it didn’t happen. I’ve followed the factory conditions for years-I even remember Michael Jordan took a lot of heat from activists (before they decided climate change was the trendy cause) for Nike factory conditions. Instead of closing them down or improving conditions. They just outsourced it to local manufacturing facilities so they couldn’t take direct responsibility, much like Apple does today. So thinking open trade would westernize China, it did not. The human rights abuses, gulags, censorship, political assassinations, poor working conditions, all remain and the western nations look the other way as long as we get our iPhones.

    I’m sorry if I wasn’t more clear, but I think we are on the exact same page here.

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  23. David Foster Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):
    Early? 20 years ago was the year 2000! If anything I expect it started a good deal earlier.

    China didn’t enter the WTO until 2001.

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  24. Jon1979 Lincoln

    The thing about totalitarian dictatorships is they want to micromanage everything and can’t admit mistakes or failings, less it possibly loosen their grip on power.

    Xi’s actions over the past eight years of wanting to centralize power from the limited loosening that had been allowed over the previous 30 years was based on the idea he could harness China’s capitalism-based growth and economic power, while seizing more control over it for himself with zero negative consequences. U.S. corporations were happy not to care up until now, because they both wanted to maintain their low-cost production source and saw the potential China market as being open to them, as long as they didn’t get on Xi’s bad side. The latter explained the reaction in some quarters this past fall, in trying to mitigate support for Hong Kong in their efforts to fight Xi seizing more control of their economy (and where push back came from both the right and the far left, which opposed Chinese action because they still saw China as too crony-capitalist and in bed with evil American corporations).

    So Xi sort of hit the bad publicity ground running when the Wuhan coronavirus arrived, where the Chinese leadership lied about the severity in order to project their own image of competence and infallibility, then lashed out at anyone questioning that, both inside and outside the country. Xi’s worst mistake going forward may not end up being lying about the virus for two months, but making threats to cut off the export of generic drugs and other medical supplies to countries that criticized the Chinese government. That may focus the public’s mind far quicker on the current Chinese control of certain production sectors of the world economy than threatening to slow the delivery of the iPhone 12 ever would, and to where people would be open to paying higher prices for at least some products, if they knew their own health didn’t have the potential to be held hostage by Xi.

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  25. I Walton Member

    Aaron Miller (View Comment):

    Ironically, the exporting of an entire critical industry to foreign facilities is a natural expression of free market capitalism. It makes good sense for each individual company; just not for society as a whole. Perhaps freedom must be limited afterall.

    Exported manufacturing is not a loss of jobs so much as an exchange of jobs. Service industries have risen as factory labor has declined in America. Unemployment has not increased in proportion to exported production.

    All sorts of questions need to be answered in regard to national security, general prosperity, and liberty. The answers are not as simple as bringing the jobs back home. If this economic turn enables deregulation all around, that would be a great start.

    Yes deregulation, but the Chinese know what they’re doing and we don’t. It’s correct that we don’t, but we act as if we did and could know. If we continue to centralize economic and political power we lose. While we can’t bring it all here, we do have to cut back on China, all of it if necessary and get our allies while we still can, to follow suit. The Chinese are our principle enemy and they know it even if we don’t. That doesn’t mean we have to strut, thrust and attack, it means we need to build new trade regimes with much more strict verifiable rules based on what we used to believe. 

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  26. David Foster Member
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    Aaron Miller (View Comment):
    Exported manufacturing is not a loss of jobs so much as an exchange of jobs. Service industries have risen as factory labor has declined in America. Unemployment has not increased in proportion to exported production. 

    But the service jobs, on the average, don’t pay as well as the manufacturing jobs did. Moreover, a quite significant % of service jobs are themselves exportable, and this is indeed happening. See my post Telemigration.

     

     

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  27. Roberto, Crusty Old Timer LLC Member
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    One more periodical that can no longer be taken seriously.

     

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  28. CACrabtree Coolidge

    Just one word; “Wow”; Great Post! (OK, that was three words but you get my point.)

    It appears that no one, beginning with Nixon, realized that Red China is on a “Hundred Year Marathon” a phrase coined by Michael Pillsbury, which is also the title of his book. The greed of our “elites” coupled with our own dependency on cheap Chinese goods have ensured that the Reds are well along with their plan. We have to do something to turn this around but it’s going to be difficult. When our high tech outfits are so eager to make a buck by assisting the Reds in facial recognition software along with other assorted censorship tools, they have been willing partners in an attempt to utterly stiffle dissent.

    In addition when you have “useful idiots” such as those in the NBA, the Chinese people have to wonder just whose side this country is on.

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  29. JennaStocker Member
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    CACrabtree (View Comment):

    Just one word; “Wow”; Great Post! (OK, that was three words but you get my point.)

    It appears that no one, beginning with Nixon, realized that Red China is on a “Hundred Year Marathon” a phrase coined by Michael Pillsbury, which is also the title of his book. The greed of our “elites” coupled with our own dependency on cheap Chinese goods have ensured that the Reds are well along with their plan. We have to do something to turn this around but it’s going to be difficult. When our high tech outfits are so eager to make a buck by assisting the Reds in facial recognition software along with other assorted censorship tools, they have been willing partners in an attempt to utterly stiffle dissent.

    In addition when you have “useful idiots” such as those in the NBA, the Chinese people have to wonder just whose side this country is on.

    Yes! Well said!!

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