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In Riverside County, CA, and I would guess many other counties soon, golf courses have been ordered to shut down because you know, they are non-essential and apparently are breeding grounds for coronavirus. Never mind that golfers tend to play in only groups of two or three or four players at a time, typically play many yards apart on each stroke (and more so, if that nasty slice shows up) and are in an outdoor environment with an overabundance of fresh air. One might even be so bold to say that if there’s any recreational activity that should be encouraged in this time of excessive government-mandated house arrest, golf would be it. But one Dr. Cameron Kaiser, a Riverside Public Health official, begs to differ:

“There was some confusion over the closure of golf courses, and we believe this order makes it perfectly clear that golf courses are not an essential business and people must stop gathering on courses,” Riverside County Public Health Officer Dr. Cameron Kaiser said.

“The governor’s stay-at-home order means exactly that,” Kaiser said. “Unless you’re the gardener, stay off the greens.”

Courses found to be in violation of the order could be fined as much as $1,000 a day.

Kaiser went on to state that (emphasis mine):

“Clearly and disappointingly, golf courses remained opened and put many people at risk,” Kaiser said. “That’s why it has come to this.”

Note that this public health official doesn’t feel obligated to make available any scientific studies to show how an outdoor recreational activity like golf which has inherently built-in social distancing “puts many people at risk,” or to offer any evidence on how many avid golfers have contracted COVID-19 while playing golf. He is apparently the final authority on the subject and golfers and course owners are apparently not allowed to challenge this edict.

So, add golfers and golf course owners to the list of other enemies of the state along with surfers, paddleboarders, sunset watchers, dog owners, people who want to stroll through a park on a sunny day, and anyone who wants to get out of their house and into their automobile to take a peaceful drive somewhere, anywhere. Serial child rapists, thieves — not a concern. They may wander free but heaven help them if they surf or take up golf.

Ronald Reagan once said that freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. This warning is proving to be incorrect. It can be rendered extinct within just a matter of weeks by bureaucrats and politicians who don’t have to offer any proof of their claims or provide their dubious methodologies that have brought about a police state.

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  1. Vance Richards Member
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    Brian Watt: So, add golfers and golf course owners to the list of other enemies of the state along with surfers, paddleboarders, sunset watchers, dog owners, people who want to stroll through a park on a sunny day, and anyone who wants to get out of their house and into their automobile to take a peaceful drive somewhere, anywhere.

    A retired guy I know goes to Florida every winter, more or less just to play golf. At first they stopped putting people in foursomes and let people who came alone, play alone. Playing in a “onesome” is pretty darn socially distant. Eventually that wasn’t good enough and the golf course closed. But at least, they are doing it for our own good . . . ?

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    • April 7, 2020, at 11:02 AM PDT
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  2. OldPhil Coolidge

    In Virginia they’re still open, but most are riding in separate carts, the holes have foam inserts so no one has to touch the flagstick to retrieve the ball, you pre-pay online, etc.

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    • April 7, 2020, at 11:19 AM PDT
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  3. Blondie Thatcher

    This article tells of the dangers of “drive-in” church. In another week, I’ll be ready to test “the authorities” and go do whatever I feel like. We’ve talked about taking our camper to my parents farm the last week of April. Thinking it might be worth the risk. I hear Scott Adams is ready to break this up, too. 

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    • April 7, 2020, at 11:32 AM PDT
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  4. MarciN Member

    It’s frustrating to me because being outside in the sunshine is the best defense against this virus that we have! And exercise keeps our circulation going. That’s so important in fighting colds and keeping them from turning into lower-lung pneumonia. I’m surprised the doctors in this country are not up in arms about these local restrictions. On Cape Cod, my town has closed the beaches. Thank goodness, out of the fifteen towns, we’re the only one to do so (at least as of yesterday).

    Hanging in the lobby of our local hospital up in Newburyport, Massachusetts, there used to be a wonderful black-and-white photograph of the nurses outside the hospital lined up with the newborns in baby strollers getting some fresh air. The nurses always opened up the windows in the hospital rooms for a little bit each day to air the rooms out. There’s nothing quite as disinfecting as sunshine and fresh air. :-)

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    • April 7, 2020, at 11:35 AM PDT
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  5. Stad Thatcher

    I saw where one state banned fishing, but a few others are promoting “fishstancing”. I guess a foursome in golf is too dangerous to allow.

    Actually, it is if I’m one of the foursome . . .

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    • April 7, 2020, at 11:46 AM PDT
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  6. She Reagan
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    MarciN (View Comment):

    It’s frustrating to me because being outside in the sunshine is the best defense against this virus that we have! And exercise keeps our circulation going.

    So many frustrating things. One, that those who have the authority to do so, treat us like irresponsible children who don’t know what is best for us and others. Another, that so many of us act like irresponsible children who don’t know what is best for us and others.

    The day that someone in SW PA prevents me from walking, alone, down the road for a two-mile-or-so walk, on which I’m unlikely to encounter another person, and during which I might (on a busy day) see half-a-dozen cars going in one direction or the other, is the day you’ll probably see me on the 11PM news.

    Stay tuned.

     

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    • April 7, 2020, at 11:52 AM PDT
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  7. Seawriter Member

    Freedom isn’t free. Few generations get freedom handed to them. You want freedom? Best fight for it. The proper course if you disagree with petty bureaucrats is civil disobedience. Disobey.

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    • April 7, 2020, at 12:09 PM PDT
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  8. Brian Watt Member
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    Seawriter (View Comment):

    Freedom isn’t free. Few generations get freedom handed to them. You want freedom? Best fight for it. The proper course if you disagree with petty bureaucrats is civil disobedience. Disobey.

    I have a full bag of clubs and I’m not afraid to use them.

    Probably need to clean them, though. They’ve been gathering dust in the garage for quite some time and there are probably spiders nesting in the bag. 

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    • April 7, 2020, at 12:13 PM PDT
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  9. Ralphie Member

    It has been argued that the virus is not heat sensitive, but that people getting vitamin D from sunshine have better immune systems and therefore diminish the virus. 

    Closed the courses here in MI too.

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    • April 7, 2020, at 12:31 PM PDT
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  10. Brian Watt Member
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    and here’s the video (embedded in the news story).

    https://kdvr.com/news/man-arrested-in-front-of-daughter-at-brighton-park-for-allegedly-violating-social-distancing/?fbclid=IwAR1uBq9XOXOBxGHkNUYBdLghdjd0bsMDCxHasMbfbaSH5NL6oDMb8g03v0M

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    • April 7, 2020, at 12:34 PM PDT
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  11. Blondie Thatcher

    We are going to arrest you for being out with your family while letting out rapists and child molesters. Makes perfect sense. 🙄

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    • April 7, 2020, at 12:40 PM PDT
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  12. Scott Wilmot Member

    Sorry to hear that Brian. Most courses in Texas are still open. I just finished playing 18 today with a friend at Raven Nest in Huntsville, TX. Golf is essential for my mental health. I am way over tired of hearing from experts on what is good and what isn’t good for us.

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    • April 7, 2020, at 1:41 PM PDT
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  13. Vance Richards Member
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    My family has been doing a lot of walking around the hiking trails at a nearby county park. I just heard today that the the NJ governor is ordering all state and county parks closed (I thought he was only in charge of the state ones). Evidently the woods are too crowded.

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    • April 7, 2020, at 2:05 PM PDT
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  14. Blondie Thatcher

    How long are we going to put up with this? I mean this in all sincerity. 

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    • April 7, 2020, at 2:10 PM PDT
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  15. OldPhil Coolidge

    Blondie (View Comment):

    How long are we going to put up with this? I mean this in all sincerity.

    I’m thinking next week people are going to begin to revolt.

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    • April 7, 2020, at 2:48 PM PDT
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  16. Concretevol Thatcher

    I did some “social distancing” by doing some kayaking and talking to neighbors on the lake. Sunday was gorgeous and lots of people were out enjoying the sunshine without crowding. That evening we went for a drive up to the foothills parkway outside the smokey mountains. I did hear they closed the national park….which also seems dumb to prevent people from going out alone into wilderness. I can see not having restrooms open and things like that be closing parks and golf courses is ridiculous.

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    • April 7, 2020, at 2:56 PM PDT
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  17. TC Chef Coolidge

    Seawriter (View Comment):

    Freedom isn’t free. Few generations get freedom handed to them. You want freedom? Best fight for it. The proper course if you disagree with petty bureaucrats is civil disobedience. Disobey.

    Here in Minnesota we are told that the governor will have an update tomorrow on the initial lockdown order which expires in Friday at 5:00 pm. Based on his comments today I think we will see an extension, but with some loosening and select professions allowed back to work. They may even allow the golf courses to open. Not a burning issue here yet as snow is forecast for Easter but it will be.

    My thought is that we are two weeks away from general unrest and four weeks away from a breakout of real protest and civil disobedience from the passive/aggressive Minnesota nice population.

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    • April 7, 2020, at 3:50 PM PDT
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  18. Brian Wyneken Member

    TC Chef (View Comment):

    . . . 

    My thought is that we are two weeks away from general unrest and four weeks away from a breakout of real protest and civil disobedience from the passive/aggressive Minnesota nice population.

    The passive/aggressive “nice” Minnesotans (I’m a transplant – it was the first thing I noticed when I moved here in ’89) are already engaged in their “just a suggestion”-type scolding, which often ratchets up to eleven if anyone questions it. The older folks are scared, understandably, and its been interesting observing the simmering conflict.

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    • April 7, 2020, at 4:18 PM PDT
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  19. Unsk Member

    Jack Dunphy, a LAPD cop of many years wrote a post at PJ Media on the over-reaction to the quarantine – according to him LA County Lifeguards? used not one but two boats to ticket a lone paddle boarder off of Malibu.

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    • April 7, 2020, at 4:33 PM PDT
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  20. Ray Gunner Coolidge

    OldPhil (View Comment):

    Blondie (View Comment):

    How long are we going to put up with this? I mean this in all sincerity.

    I’m thinking next week people are going to begin to revolt.

    I knew the woke-stasi was pushing us to revolution, but I didn’t expect it would start here.

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    • April 7, 2020, at 4:34 PM PDT
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  21. Lois Lane Coolidge

    Concretevol (View Comment):

    I did some “social distancing” by doing some kayaking and talking to neighbors on the lake. Sunday was gorgeous and lots of people were out enjoying the sunshine without crowding. That evening we went for a drive up to the foothills parkway outside the smokey mountains. I did hear they closed the national park….which also seems dumb to prevent people from going out alone into wilderness. I can see not having restrooms open and things like that be closing parks and golf courses is ridiculous.

    We wanted to drive through the park. Also, verboten! The road was closed.

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    • April 7, 2020, at 5:41 PM PDT
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  22. sawatdeeka Member
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    Ha. I know Cameron Kaiser. Or rather, I know his parents–we went to the same small church– and have met him. I saw him recently diplomatically hold his own in a news clip and do a great job of it. Interesting that news reports have him issuing “orders.”

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    • April 7, 2020, at 6:00 PM PDT
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  23. sawatdeeka Member
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    Ray Gunner (View Comment):

    OldPhil (View Comment):

    Blondie (View Comment):

    How long are we going to put up with this? I mean this in all sincerity.

    I’m thinking next week people are going to begin to revolt.

    I knew the woke-stasi was pushing us to revolution, but I didn’t expect it would start here.

    Considering his upbringing, I doubt he ascribes to leftist politics. 

     

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    • April 7, 2020, at 6:02 PM PDT
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  24. Brian Watt Member
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    sawatdeeka (View Comment):

    Ha. I know Cameron Kaiser. Or rather, I know his parents–we went to the same small church– and have met him. I saw him recently diplomatically hold his own in a news clip and do a great job of it. Interesting that news reports have him issuing “orders.”

    Please talk some sense to him.

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  25. Brian Watt Member
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    sawatdeeka (View Comment):

    Ray Gunner (View Comment):

    OldPhil (View Comment):

    Blondie (View Comment):

    How long are we going to put up with this? I mean this in all sincerity.

    I’m thinking next week people are going to begin to revolt.

    I knew the woke-stasi was pushing us to revolution, but I didn’t expect it would start here.

    Considering his upbringing, I doubt he ascribes to leftist politics.

    Ask him (perhaps through his parents) what his scientific evidence is that golf courses or playing golf “put many people at risk” for contracting COVID-19.

     

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    • April 7, 2020, at 6:06 PM PDT
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  26. Concretevol Thatcher

    Lois Lane (View Comment):

    Concretevol (View Comment):

    I did some “social distancing” by doing some kayaking and talking to neighbors on the lake. Sunday was gorgeous and lots of people were out enjoying the sunshine without crowding. That evening we went for a drive up to the foothills parkway outside the smokey mountains. I did hear they closed the national park….which also seems dumb to prevent people from going out alone into wilderness. I can see not having restrooms open and things like that be closing parks and golf courses is ridiculous.

    We wanted to drive through the park. Also, verboten! The road was closed.

    Which side were you coming in on, TN or NC? On the TN side check out the Foothills Parkway. On the NC side I would try the Blue Ridge Parkway. :)

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  27. Brian Watt Member
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    From the Los Angeles Times:

    There is little doubt about the overall wisdom of Gov. Gavin Newsom’s response to the coronavirus pandemic: On March 19, he ordered Californians to stay home for everyone’s good.

    But the order’s legal adequacy is another matter. In fact, legally speaking, it’s something of a mess. As it drags on, it will chafe and even cripple many Californians. Some of them will react for their own good: They’ll sue.

    And they may prevail.

    For starters, the order, like others around the country, is the most expansive, even breathtaking, assertion of government power in at least 50 years in the U.S. It directly impinges on a series of fundamental constitutional rights, including the rights of association, travel and assembly.

    Indeed, we colloquially call the order a “quarantine,” but in legal terms, quarantine refers to the isolation of people who have already been infected with a communicable disease. Newsom’s edict is far broader.

    It’s not that the government can never infringe on constitutional rights. It can. But it has to be able to to show that it has a “compelling interest” for doing so, and that its action is the “least restrictive” means for achieving it.

    Let the lawsuits begin.

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    • April 7, 2020, at 6:15 PM PDT
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  28. sawatdeeka Member
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    Brian Watt (View Comment):

    sawatdeeka (View Comment):

    Ray Gunner (View Comment):

    OldPhil (View Comment):

    Blondie (View Comment):

    How long are we going to put up with this? I mean this in all sincerity.

    I’m thinking next week people are going to begin to revolt.

    I knew the woke-stasi was pushing us to revolution, but I didn’t expect it would start here.

    Considering his upbringing, I doubt he ascribes to leftist politics.

    Ask him (perhaps through his parents) what his scientific evidence is that golf courses or playing golf “put many people at risk” for contracting COVID-19.

    My guess is that it’s not golf that’s the issue, but the idea of having to make a large number of exceptions to the “stay home” order. My sister in San Diego said they are not even supposed to go camping. I guess the stay home order is a bigger deal than the others, and she explained that “stay home means stay home.” The authorities must figure that if they make a dozen exceptions, it will be like life as usual for many. They want to discourage any movement at all, because give an inch, they’ll take a mile? Just guessing. 

    I did consider talking to his mom on FB, but maybe in his position, he’s already getting negative press, and that must be painful enough. He is an accomplished young man–brilliant in school, became a doctor while young, and rose quickly through the ranks. 

     

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    • April 7, 2020, at 6:20 PM PDT
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  29. Brian Watt Member
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    Unless people are presented with and can review credible scientific and statistical analyses of how surfing, paddle boarding, strolling through an empty park, playing T-ball with one’s child in an empty park or playing golf in the fresh air contributes to the spread of coronavirus, then it’s not unreasonable to attribute these crackdowns as asinine and an overreach of government and its many bureaucratic tentacles.

    Thus far, much of the methodology used to justify the shutdown has been found either skewed based on unproven assumptions (the intangible numbers of people infected).

    The longer this goes on, the more angry people will get. If the arrests continue and the shelter-in-place order is extended after April 30th, things will get increasingly ugly. Politicians are playing with fire. 

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    • April 7, 2020, at 6:29 PM PDT
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  30. Brian Watt Member
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    sawatdeeka (View Comment):

    Brian Watt (View Comment):

    sawatdeeka (View Comment):

    Ray Gunner (View Comment):

    OldPhil (View Comment):

    Blondie (View Comment):

    How long are we going to put up with this? I mean this in all sincerity.

    I’m thinking next week people are going to begin to revolt.

    I knew the woke-stasi was pushing us to revolution, but I didn’t expect it would start here.

    Considering his upbringing, I doubt he ascribes to leftist politics.

    Ask him (perhaps through his parents) what his scientific evidence is that golf courses or playing golf “put many people at risk” for contracting COVID-19.

    My guess is that it’s not golf that’s the issue, but the idea of having to make a large number of exceptions to the “stay home” order. My sister in San Diego said they are not even supposed to go camping. I guess the stay home order is a bigger deal than the others, and she explained that “stay home means stay home.” The authorities must figure that if they make a dozen exceptions, it will be like life as usual for many. They want to discourage any movement at all, because give an inch, they’ll take a mile? Just guessing.

    I understand that but see my Comment #27 above.

    I did consider talking to his mom on FB, but maybe in his position, he’s already getting negative press, and that must be painful enough. He is an accomplished young man–brilliant in school, became a doctor while young, and rose quickly through the ranks.

    I’m sure he means well. Just as Governor Newsom may mean well. But an overreach is an overreach.

     

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    • April 7, 2020, at 6:32 PM PDT
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