Trump: Too Much of a Good Thing?

 

Let me begin by saying that I am very glad, on so many levels, that Trump has been holding his daily updates for the COVID-19 Task Force. Here are some of the reasons I think they are a good idea:

  1. The broadcast tells the public that Trump and the task force members want us to be informed. Transparency is critical.
  2. In spite of the confusion and inconsistencies of the models, the Task Force is determined to give us the best and most up-to-date information available.
  3. The Task Force members, even if we don’t always agree on how they arrive at policy, or about their refusal to give the available drugs their full endorsement, have been clear about their reasons.
  4. It is a healthy sign to see that Trump is not always in lock-step with the Task Force members.

So what’s the problem? My biggest issue is Trump himself.

I don’t mind his going after reporters; they are asking repetitive, foolish, and manipulative questions. I think that Trump’s pointing out this irresponsible behavior to the public is valuable. I also think the public benefits by seeing him daily as a reminder that he’s in charge of the country, and knowledgeable about the situation; when he’s not, he defers to his Task Force members. His praise of those on the front line is admirable and positive.

But he is proceeding in a number of ways that I think will damage his credibility and the appreciation of the public:

  1. He is spending far too much time speaking at these forums. I realize that the people who are watching don’t view these presentations every day, but he not only repeats information that is dated, he does it several times during his time at the dais.
  2. He needs to remember that he is speaking to the general public, not just his supporters. His bad habit of overusing certain words—incredible, perfect, and other superlative terms reflects a lack of imagination. It starts to grate on the nerves after a while. (This effect would be reduced by less time to speak, not more discipline.)
  3. The overall time for this forum should be reduced. People will begin to tire from the length of these forums, and may very well turn them off completely—and be “turned off” to their purpose. It also gives reporters more time to try to trap Trump into a response that can be distorted.

So how could these opportunities be improved?

  1. Limit the President’s time at the beginning to 10 minutes, with 10 minutes for questions. Include the most important highlights, rather than trying to cover every topic.
  2. Since time will be limited, reporters should be referred to their colleagues for information when they insist on asking duplicate questions.
  3. Limit the number of questions a reporter can ask.
  4. Begin to bring in Mike Pence just after Trump finishes his introduction. He is, after all, heading the Task Force.
  5. The doctors seem to be using their speaking time effectively. We may not like everything they’re telling us, but they seem to be building credibility with the public
  6. These are not campaign rallies where Trump is speaking only to his base. This is the American public. But his speaking can certainly influence public perception of Trump and their decisions for the upcoming election.

Trump should use his time, and the public’s time, well.

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  1. Housebroken Coolidge
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    He is who he is.  

    But how long before you-know-who coopts this conversation to tell us Orange-man-bad?  

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  2. DrewInWisconsin, Negative Infl… Member
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    Housebroken (View Comment):

    He is who he is.

    But how long before you-know-who coopts this conversation to tell us Orange-man-bad?

    Rule: Never put the word “Trump” in the subject header. That’s like a dog whistle.

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  3. Jon1979 Inactive
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    Franco (View Comment):

    If I could tweek Trump here and there, I would.

    But he’s so much better at Presidenin’ than anyone I can think of, and that’s even including a few policy disagreements.

    He cannot allow Fauci and Brix free reign. They are nannies who reflexively prescribe bed-rest for the nation, and they will always err on the side of caution. Emphasis on “err”….

    They, the press and politicians have way too much invested in having this crisis be as bad as possible, last as long as possible and to blame Trump and his administration for as many mistakes as possible.

    As others have said, Trump needs to continually remind everyone that there’s a limit to this shutdown.

    In the next 10 days, I’m predicting this will fizzle-out. The next phase in the argument will be keeping the mitigation in place so as not to risk a return to high levels ( which doctors and press and skittish or partisan politicians will argue) and opening up ASAP within reason.

    By that time, a good majority of Americans will have had enough of these theatrics and enough of the loss of freedom to agree to open up.

    The argument for opening up will be compelling.

    Either the models were overly pessimistic, or mitigation works very well.

    The idea of mitigation was to buy time to ramp up hospitals, ventilators etc. If they

    If we don’t hit peak capacity in the expected surge, then there remains the ability to handle any subsequent wave. Increased testing and monitoring, even as it exists presently, can track and mitigate in better isolation.
    The fact that CNN and other fake news outlets don’t want to air these briefings tells me all I need to know. That and rising poll numbers.

    I fully expect some people to want to treat COVID-19 like polo or smallpox, to where any new case once the restrictions are eased is a sign of failure and a cause of outrage. It’s why, flaws aside, Trump has to remain engaged at the press conferences.

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  4. Franco Member
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    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    Franco (View Comment):
    They, the press and politicians have way too much invested in having this crisis be as bad as possible, last as long as possible and to blame Trump and his administration for as many mistakes as possible.

    @franco, I get your point on all the groups listed except the doctors. Why would they want to make Trump look bad? Won’t that wash over on them?

    The wording wasn’t clear,   …and for the press and political opponents to blame…

    Not medical personnel ( other than those who are political opponents, I wonder about Fauci myself)

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  5. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    Jon1979 (View Comment):
    t’s why, flaws aside, Trump has to remain engaged at the press confrences.

    Please note that I did not say he should not be engaged!! (In case that was directed at the OP)

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  6. WillowSpring Member
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    Several thoughts:

    I agree that he should be a little harder to draw off the target and agree with #17 that his answer to the question about the Captain should have been much shorter.

    At the same time, the medical team has a very narrow view and Trump has responsibility for everything and needs to show that we aren’t letting things slip through the cracks.  A good example of that is showing last week how the drug interception is not stopping.

    He is also somewhat of a “cheerleader” for the country.  It is important to know that someone has the importance of the economy in their mind.

    One of his larger functions has been to get the private sector involved in the solutions.  It is probably important to the various CEO’s that Trump is the one to point their efforts out (as much as I think of Pence)

    If Trump’s role was predictable – either start or end the session, I think the media would adapt to that and cut him out completely.  Another reason for him to stay for the duration is to act as a block on the tactics of the media.  I can’t imagine Fauci or Brix telling a reporter that the question has already been answered or doesn’t make sense.  Trump will do that (and I sense he is getting a little short tempered with dumb/antagonistic questions)

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  7. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    Franco (View Comment):
    Not medical personnel ( other than those who are political opponents, I wonder about Fauci myself)

    Thanks, @franco, for clarifying. Re Fauci, I don’t think he likes to be challenged publicly, and probably rarely experiences that behavior from anyone. But I think he and Birx know who they’re working with, and that stuff comes with the territory. I hope.

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  8. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    WillowSpring (View Comment):
    If Trump’s role was predictable – either start or end the session, I think the media would adapt to that and cut him out completely. Another reason for him to stay for the duration is to act as a block on the tactics of the media.

    Very good points, @willowspring. I’d be okay with his staying the whole time, but I think he doesn’t need to intervene as often as he does. He is working with adults, after all. Referring to the docs, not the media!

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  9. The Reticulator Member
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    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    Franco (View Comment):
    They, the press and politicians have way too much invested in having this crisis be as bad as possible, last as long as possible and to blame Trump and his administration for as many mistakes as possible.

    @franco, I get your point on all the groups listed except the doctors. Why would they want to make Trump look bad? Won’t that wash over on them?

    There is much truth in the fable of the scorpion and the frog.

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  10. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    Trump is holding court, every day, for 90+ min. His energy is amazing for a man his age, and the longer he is out there, the more he seems to have. 

    Gang, these are all rallies. He is making Joe Biden look really low energy. Look at the contrast he is building. 

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  11. PHCheese Inactive
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    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    PHCheese (View Comment):
    Take this as a compliment but you are not one of the great unwashed. They need lots of repetition so as to absorb thoughts.

    Fair enough, @phcheese. I may not be part of the great unwashed, but this stuff can be pretty overwhelming. Then again, do we want to speak of the public as the “great unwashed?” Sounds a little like the Dems, doesn’t it?

    Susan not saying you do but many live in a bubble. Not speaking about the great unwashed doesn’t make them go away. I would absolutely win the bet that everyone on Ricochet, all your friends, all your family live at least 20 points to the right side of the intellectual bell curve. Remember the mean is 100, that leaves a bunch of people most of the aforementioned rarely associate. They may see or hear a headline but really don’t know the facts. BTW great unwashed is a metaphor although being drafted into the Army introduced me to a whole new crowd.

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  12. Stad Coolidge
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    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Negative Infl… (View Comment):
    So, Susan, I’m afraid I’ll have to disagree. “Too much” Trump has been a very good thing. ; )

    From the same survey:

    In our latest Zogby Poll, 48% of likely voters rated Trump’s handling of the Covid-19 crisis positively, while 52% rated it negatively. Voters were not as positive about Trump’s response to the crisis as they were with Dr. Fauci of NIAID or Governor Andrew Cuomo of New York, but the president still received better marks than Congress, Joe Biden and Senator Bernie Sanders.

    I’m suggesting that over time, these ratings could drop, @drewinwisconsin.

    Polls polls polls . . .

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    Percival (View Comment):

    Ralphie (View Comment):

    It’s fine. As during 2016, let Trump be Trump. He hires, fires, adapts. What has surprised me is how much in command he is. I would suggest he is as fast as JFK answering questions, and better when the back and forth is lively. Not a lot of ums, uhs.

    Remember when Obama put Timothy Gietner on the spot at the beginning of his administration? He made Gietner’s first major press exposure a near disaster. And Trump has not put any of his administration under more fire from the press than he puts himself. He stuck with Kavannaugh.

    My husband said the other day that he thinks the best two presidents in our lives was Reagan and Trump, who both were not conventional politicians.

    I gotta throw a flag on Reagan as a non-politician. He was two-time President of the Screen Actors Guild from 1947-52 and 1959-60, and two-time Governor of California 1967-75. The presidency was not his first rodeo.

    True, I thought of that, but he started humble, not ivy league and worked in something besides politics.  George Bush also had private business, but came from political stock; grew up in it.  Interestingly, a historian (I can’t remember where I saw it) said only Bill Clinton and DJT had the skill sets to deal with this crisis. 

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  14. Percival Thatcher
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    Ralphie (View Comment):

    Percival (View Comment):

    Ralphie (View Comment):

    It’s fine. As during 2016, let Trump be Trump. He hires, fires, adapts. What has surprised me is how much in command he is. I would suggest he is as fast as JFK answering questions, and better when the back and forth is lively. Not a lot of ums, uhs.

    Remember when Obama put Timothy Gietner on the spot at the beginning of his administration? He made Gietner’s first major press exposure a near disaster. And Trump has not put any of his administration under more fire from the press than he puts himself. He stuck with Kavannaugh.

    My husband said the other day that he thinks the best two presidents in our lives was Reagan and Trump, who both were not conventional politicians.

    I gotta throw a flag on Reagan as a non-politician. He was two-time President of the Screen Actors Guild from 1947-52 and 1959-60, and two-time Governor of California 1967-75. The presidency was not his first rodeo.

    True, I thought of that, but he started humble, not ivy league and worked in something besides politics. George Bush also had private business, but came from political stock; grew up in it. Interestingly, a historian (I can’t remember where I saw it) said only Bill Clinton and DJT had the skill sets to deal with this crisis.

    Trump did start out privileged, and is Ivy League — UPenn. It didn’t take. I’d put that down more to Trump than to UPenn. 

    What the two of them truly share is the ability to communicate with the people despite media interference. 

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  15. MISTER BITCOIN Inactive
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    I told a friend the other day: Trump is impossible to poll correctly

    His approval rating in currently at 49%?

    That means his ‘real’ approval rating is 51% imo…

     

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  16. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    MISTER BITCOIN (View Comment):

    I told a friend the other day: Trump is impossible to poll correctly

    His approval rating in currently at 49%?

    That means his ‘real’ approval rating is 51% imo…

     

    Well there are two ratings that are taken: the rating of his overall performance, and the rating of how he’s handling the virus crisis. Then again, who believes polls anymore?!

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  17. Jon1979 Inactive
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    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    WillowSpring (View Comment):
    If Trump’s role was predictable – either start or end the session, I think the media would adapt to that and cut him out completely. Another reason for him to stay for the duration is to act as a block on the tactics of the media.

    Very good points, @willowspring. I’d be okay with his staying the whole time, but I think he doesn’t need to intervene as often as he does. He is working with adults, after all. Referring to the docs, not the media!

    The main thing going forward I hope with Fauci is that he realizes that ‘aspirational’ goes both ways. He used that term a couple of weeks ago to describe Trump’s hope of reopening businesses by Easter, at a time when the media was all-in on trying to promote a feud between him and Trump. But on the other side, a shutdown of the economy until COVID-19 is wiped out is also ‘aspirational’, because it would set the bar for a highly communicable virus far above what we’ve ever set before, in terms of winter viral outbreaks that claim lives. (I’d assume as a physician dealing with viral outbreaks since the Reagan Administration, he knows that better than anyone here does, but I don’t know how much he’s going to support a targeted reopening of activities across the country, versus a one-size-fits-all that bases any return to normal on when the most severely affected areas can afford to do it.)

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  18. MISTER BITCOIN Inactive
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    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    MISTER BITCOIN (View Comment):

    I told a friend the other day: Trump is impossible to poll correctly

    His approval rating in currently at 49%?

    That means his ‘real’ approval rating is 51% imo…

     

    Well there are two ratings that are taken: the rating of his overall performance, and the rating of how he’s handling the virus crisis. Then again, who believes polls anymore?!

    exactly

     

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  19. Housebroken Coolidge
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    Susan Quinn (View Comment):
    Then again, who believes polls anymore?!

    Depends on what the say.

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  20. Limestone Cowboy Coolidge
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    Kay of MT (View Comment):

    President Trump is not a smooth, polished, and glib politician and I for one am grateful he is not. He has far too many people advising him, each with a different political view. Not being a world class doctor, scientist, or another “expert” he does the best he can in picking his experts, for us and for the United States of America. So I can forgive him for occasionally making a wrong pick, and for his repetitions. If you can’t stand his voice, don’t listen.

    What KofMT said!

    With a slight addition. During so called “Black Swan” events there are no overall experts. 

    Almost by definition these are unprecedented, which means that we may have expertise available in individual aspects of response (pharmacology, therapeutics, device manufacturing etc.), we don’t have overall experience in how best to set priorities. Or to resolve competing claims.

    The things that I most like about Trump’s responses are his frequent use of phrases like:

    -we don’t know if it will work

    -we’ll give it a try

    -we’ll see what works

    He thinks like a good engineer dealing with uncertanty.

    It’s also what bothers me about some of Dr. Fauci’s comments about chloroquine efficacy against COVID19 as merely anecdotal and not proven in clinical trials. Sorry, but it’s no time to be discussing the efficacy of different fire retardants when the building is on fire. Go with what you have at hand and learn from it. If the building is still standing that is evidence of efficacy, albeit merely “anecdotal”. Besides what better alternatives exist in the situation?

    As engineers have known for many years, “perfect” is the mortal enemy of “good enough”.

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  21. MISTER BITCOIN Inactive
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    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    MISTER BITCOIN (View Comment):

    I told a friend the other day: Trump is impossible to poll correctly

    His approval rating in currently at 49%?

    That means his ‘real’ approval rating is 51% imo…

     

    Well there are two ratings that are taken: the rating of his overall performance, and the rating of how he’s handling the virus crisis. Then again, who believes polls anymore?!

    PredictIt.org is more reliable in real time than polls.

     

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  22. MISTER BITCOIN Inactive
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    https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2020/04/07/breaking-trump-wants-a-hold-on-who-funding-n2566530

     

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  23. Clifford A. Brown Member
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    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Negative Infl… (View Comment):

    Jon1979 (View Comment):
    He can’t step back too far and let stuff like this become the narrative:

    This is what I think, too. If he stops speaking, the media narrative (lies from the pit of hell) becomes the prominent one. As long as he keeps going out there on a daily basis in the “serious but optimistic” tone he’s been using, his narrative becomes the prominent one, and the media is stuck in “reactive” mode. He can’t let them take the lead. He’s got to keep them on the back foot.

    Drew, I didn’t ask him to stop speaking!!! I asked him to pull back a bit. Please read the OP.

    However, your recommendation would mean a huge loss, as CNN and the usual suspects want to cut away as soon as the ratings driver, President Trump, is off camera. He has to be there to keep the cameras feeding unfiltered content to America.

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  24. Clifford A. Brown Member
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    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    She (View Comment):

    I’m of the opinion that he’d do better to limit his appearances at these daily briefings to once or twice a week. He has a team handling the issue, and he should show that he trusts them, by letting them do just that. Yesterday, in the midst of that whole Theodore Roosevelt, Navy, captain, Navy Secretary business, I had to shut it off. That should have taken at most, 1.5 minutes in which some dolt of a reporter (trying to stir something up) asked a question, and Trump said, “As Commander in Chief, I’m reviewing the matter, and you will hear about my intervention and decision after, and when, I’ve made it. Let’s move on.” All that stuff about “he made a mistake,” and “he went to Annapolis (or wherever it was) so he must be very smart,” and “he has a good record, but I don’t want to see a man destroyed,” and “perhaps it was an overreaction,” AFTER Trump had already said he fully supported the SecNav’s decision, just looks and sounds bad. I wish only that, when he goes after reporters to shut them up, he’d shut up himself, and stop stirring the pot so that they keep asking questions about the same thing in an attempt to keep the matter front and center.

    FTR, my answer on the Navy thing, speaking as a rather ignorant civilian would be along the lines of “Sending signals that one’s troops are not operationally ready and that one has extreme reservations about the sincerity and effectiveness of one’s commanding officers to insure that they are, or to keep them that way, is information that, if not explicitly classified, certainly ought to be, just based on its subject matter. Remember Hillary Clinton, and all the stuff that was divulged in her emails–and how the excuse from the Left was that ‘it’s not explicitly classified, so it’s OK?’ I remember that too. But I knew that what she did was wrong, and anyone with any sense knows that too, and that she should have been sanctioned at the time (cue digressive rant about Comey and Brennan). Anyone with any sense knows that. The same is true here. The commander of that ship should not have taken his concerns public. He was absolutely out of line in what he did. I am reviewing the matter only to make sure that the discipline applied was commensurate with the offense. I’ll get back to you on that.

    Next?”

    I wish he’d show some discipline himself. But that’s unlikely.

    I’m with you, @she. I’ve been shutting off the last couple early. To say he was going to review the military decision was insulting. Stay in your lane, Trump.

    His lane: Commander in Chief. One of 12 super carriers, the most potent non-ballistic missile platform in the world, which with 1/3 refit, 1/3 train, 1/3 on station is really one of 4 immediately available and in the region with the greatest threat, the Chinese naval and air forces. And his civilian point man, the acting SecNav, had thoroughly fouled up with a rant captured by every crewman’s smart phone!

    This intemperate public intervention by the secretary polluted any uniformed military review with his undo command influence. Arguably, that dumped the action in the SecDef lap, with the president left to review the decision. President Trump chose to fix the mess, showing he had already reviewed a summary of the officer’s record and balancing the SecNav rant with a very balanced consideration of the great good done by the captain, combined with a repetition that his conduct was wrong in this instance. 

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  25. Clifford A. Brown Member
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    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    MISTER BITCOIN (View Comment):

    I told a friend the other day: Trump is impossible to poll correctly

    His approval rating in currently at 49%?

    That means his ‘real’ approval rating is 51% imo…

     

    Well there are two ratings that are taken: the rating of his overall performance, and the rating of how he’s handling the virus crisis. Then again, who believes polls anymore?!

    I prefer tea leaves or coffee grounds. At least I get a good cuppa first.

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  26. B. W. Wooster Member
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    SQ – another excellent post.  I will say that the briefings have changed my perspective of the President, in a positive way. 

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  27. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    Clifford A. Brown (View Comment):
    This intemperate public intervention by the secretary polluted any uniformed military review with his undo command influence. Arguably, that dumped the action in the SecDef lap, with the president left to review the decision. President Trump chose to fix the mess, showing he had already reviewed a summary of the officer’s record and balancing the SecNav rant with a very balanced consideration of the great good done by the captain, combined with a repetition that his conduct was wrong in this instance.

    Okay, Clifford. Certainly your military background lends credibility to your statement! So (and I’m asking sincerely), you’re saying that the SecNav’s rant warranted his being essentially fired. And Trump was the only one authorized to do it. Right?

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  28. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    B. W. Wooster (View Comment):

    SQ – another excellent post. I will say that the briefings have changed my perspective of the President, in a positive way.

    I’m glad to hear that, BW.  I think I probably need to take @kayofmt‘s advice and limit my time listening to him. 

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  29. OccupantCDN Coolidge
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    Susan Quinn: I don’t mind his going after reporters; they are asking repetitive, foolish, and manipulative questions.

    You’re not the only one to notice this, Viva Frei is also noticed it – and makes a very good argument agianst the loaded and hypothetical questions that the media love to hurl at the Trump conferences: (all of them – not just recently)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_VomYKQzm4

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  30. I Walton Member
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    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    I Walton (View Comment):

    My assumption is that this will end in a few weeks, if not he needs to do exactly what you’re suggesting. However, he needs to say “back to work but old folks and the infirm remain isolated” after about a month of this shut down. It will have been no more than a EU vacation stop.

    @iwalton, I’m not sure what you men by “it will end in a few weeks”; if you mean the part I bolded above, I agree. But because people will keep getting sick, and some of those who go back to work will get sick, you can be sure the media will be all over it. So Trump may need to keep his public presence for a while, just to offset the distortions of what is actually happening.

    I think we’ll end the wholesale shut down in a few weeks.  We have to.  Folks can behave carefully, more so than in past epidemics that have been just as bad.  He should sustain frequent press conferences but exactly as you’ve suggested, less Trump and shorter. 

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