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How are they real?

But, seriously.

It’s funny, because yesterday at a White House press briefing, the mainstream media went ballistic after President Trump had this exchange with Yamiche Alcindor, the White House correspondent for PBS:

For the next 24 hours, it’s all mainstream pundits could tweet about; their love for their victimized colleague. Give me a break. While millions of Americans are out driving trucks, working our grocery stores and working on the front lines of ERs and ICUs around the country, the media still can’t help but make themselves the victims.

Why is it President Trump may feel “testy?” Well, scroll up. While we’ve been battling this virus, the American media has been running cover for those responsible for it, the Chinese government. They’ve been running cover for those who enabled the coverup, the World Health Organization (WHO). They’ve been pretending both entities are rational and honest actors, and then wonder why the President slams them so hard, to the sound of millions of Americans cheering.

The level of tone-deaf is so utterly remarkable I’m starting to wonder if it’s intentional. Are they trying to bottom-out their approval ratings?

 

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  1. Jason Obermeyer Member

    China isn’t even giving out plausible lies. Even South Korea, which has the best (or nearly the best) handle on the problem still reports new daily cases. China claiming zero new cases is in line with a dictator claiming to have 99.9% of the vote. 

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    • March 30, 2020, at 7:44 PM PDT
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  2. James Gawron Thatcher
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    Bethany,

    You may remember the anti-drug commercial, “This is your brain (cracks an egg into a frying pan). This is your brain on drugs.” It would be so simple to redo this commercial with the lines, “This is your brain (cracks an egg into a frying pan). This is your brain on Marxism. Think of the twisted irresponsible cruel Marxist State. They are pleased with their ability to oppress and lie to their own people. They are ecstatic if they can lie and damage others, too.

    I think it is time to expose the Chinese Marxist regime. The cell phone accounts closed out aren’t the dead from the virus. They are the people who wanted to let the world know about the dead from the virus. Real news reporting needs to be done. 

    Regards,

    Jim

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    • March 30, 2020, at 7:45 PM PDT
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  3. Jeff Hawkins Coolidge

    Republicans are the only real threat

    Foreign enemies hate us because Republicans are mean to them.

    • #3
    • March 30, 2020, at 7:54 PM PDT
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  4. Western Chauvinist Member
    Western Chauvinist Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Headline: Journalism most hated profession in America; Lawyers celebrate improved status.

    • #4
    • March 30, 2020, at 8:17 PM PDT
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  5. Jon1979 Lincoln

    Hate-driven-mendacity versus simple stupidity is the question here with the various media people taking China’s claims at face value, and despite indications, such as shutting down theaters again and clamping down on any outside media coverage, that the Chinese leadership’s claims of zero new coronavirus cases has been falling apart for nearly a week now.

    You have the media people who know that’s true, but don’t care, because they want to use China’s claims to make the U.S. response and Trump look as bad as possible, and the true dimwits, who also hate Trump, but truly think China’s being honest with their claims. I guess on the whole the former is worse, because they’re the types willing to put politics above everything else and see the current situation as just another weapon to use going towards the November elections (they’re also the ones who, if you invited them to travel to Wuhan to go out and mingle with the public for a week for an in-depth story on how China had solved the coronavirus crisis would immediately find about 10,000 reasons to beg off the assignment, while the legitimately stupid would go, and might actually be a little less legitimately stupid after discovering China just might have been fudging their numbers a tad).

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    • March 30, 2020, at 8:35 PM PDT
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  6. The (apathetic) King Prawn Inactive

    Stay off twitter, for your health.

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    • March 30, 2020, at 9:08 PM PDT
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  7. Henry Racette Contributor

    America does need journalists.

    It’s our misfortune that, at the moment, we appear not to have any.

    • #7
    • March 30, 2020, at 9:09 PM PDT
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  8. The (apathetic) King Prawn Inactive

    Henry Racette (View Comment):

    America does need journalists.

    It’s our misfortune that, at the moment, we appear not to have any.

    They suffer from the same problem as everyone else in the country: they view everything through the lens of the president.

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    • March 30, 2020, at 9:16 PM PDT
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  9. Henry Racette Contributor

    The (apathetic) King Prawn (View Comment):

    Henry Racette (View Comment):

    America does need journalists.

    It’s our misfortune that, at the moment, we appear not to have any.

    They suffer from the same problem as everyone else in the country: they view everything through the lens of the president.

    Yes. They did the same under the previous President, and the one before him as well.

    They tilt left, hard. Trump makes an easy target, but they just tilt left.

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    • March 30, 2020, at 9:18 PM PDT
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  10. The (apathetic) King Prawn Inactive

    Henry Racette (View Comment):

    The (apathetic) King Prawn (View Comment):

    Henry Racette (View Comment):

    America does need journalists.

    It’s our misfortune that, at the moment, we appear not to have any.

    They suffer from the same problem as everyone else in the country: they view everything through the lens of the president.

    Yes. They did the same under the previous President, and the one before him as well.

    They tilt left, hard. Trump makes an easy target, but they just tilt left.

    The problem isn’t this president or that president. The problem is the citizenry acting like subjects to an imperial president. It’s not just journalists. It’s all of us. 

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    • March 30, 2020, at 9:21 PM PDT
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  11. Henry Racette Contributor

    The (apathetic) King Prawn (View Comment):

    Henry Racette (View Comment):

    The (apathetic) King Prawn (View Comment):

    Henry Racette (View Comment):

    America does need journalists.

    It’s our misfortune that, at the moment, we appear not to have any.

    They suffer from the same problem as everyone else in the country: they view everything through the lens of the president.

    Yes. They did the same under the previous President, and the one before him as well.

    They tilt left, hard. Trump makes an easy target, but they just tilt left.

    The problem isn’t this president or that president. The problem is the citizenry acting like subjects to an imperial president. It’s not just journalists. It’s all of us.

    Eh. I think the problem really is a leftist press and people who don’t think very hard about it.

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    • March 30, 2020, at 9:23 PM PDT
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  12. The Reticulator Member

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    • March 30, 2020, at 10:46 PM PDT
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  13. Kozak Member
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    5000+ federal urns at one Wuhan crematorium.

     

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    • March 31, 2020, at 4:23 AM PDT
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  14. Paul Schinder Member
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    Kozak (View Comment):

    5000+ federal urns at one Wuhan crematorium.

     

    I don’t get why this has become a talking point. We don’t know if that’s actually taken in a single crematorium, or a crematorium warehouse which distributes to many smaller ones. (Is there a central one that deals with all of the dead, or are there many?) I’ve read the population of Wuhan is about 11 million. How many people die each day there normally, and how many urns are typically delivered? We just don’t know enough about anything there for this to bother me; 5000 doesn’t seem like a whole lot for a city of this size.

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    • March 31, 2020, at 5:07 AM PDT
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  15. Stad Thatcher

    The (apathetic) King Prawn (View Comment):
    The problem is the citizenry acting like subjects to an imperial president. It’s not just journalists. It’s all of us. 

    I can see some groups sponsoring counter-protests. Sure, the leaders would get arrested, but the police aren’t going to round up hundreds of people and throw them in jail.

    Isn’t it ironic that authorities are releasing some prisoners but threatening to throw law-abiding citizens in jail . . .

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    • March 31, 2020, at 5:12 AM PDT
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  16. Jon1979 Lincoln

    Paul Schinder (View Comment):

    Kozak (View Comment):

    5000+ federal urns at one Wuhan crematorium.

     

    I don’t get why this has become a talking point. We don’t know if that’s actually taken in a single crematorium, or a crematorium warehouse which distributes to many smaller ones. (Is there a central one that deals with all of the dead, or are there many?) I’ve read the population of Wuhan is about 11 million. How many people die each day there normally, and how many urns are typically delivered? We just don’t know enough about anything there for this to bother me; 5000 doesn’t seem like a whole lot for a city of this size.

    It’s anecdotal evidence. But combined with China’s leadership shutting down theaters again, it does tend to indicate that if they truly thought for a while they had the COVID-19 outbreak under control, they were mistaken and have re-instituted safe distancing because more people are getting sick, or worse.

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    • March 31, 2020, at 5:24 AM PDT
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  17. Western Chauvinist Member
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    The (apathetic) King Prawn (View Comment):

    Henry Racette (View Comment):

    America does need journalists.

    It’s our misfortune that, at the moment, we appear not to have any.

    They suffer from the same problem as everyone else in the country: they view everything through the lens of the president.

    That’s what I call the wedoittooity fallacy. I’d happily ignore whoever was president at the moment. The Left makes that impossible. 

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  18. Paul Schinder Member
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    Jon1979 (View Comment):

    Paul Schinder (View Comment):

    Kozak (View Comment):

    5000+ federal urns at one Wuhan crematorium.

     

    I don’t get why this has become a talking point. We don’t know if that’s actually taken in a single crematorium, or a crematorium warehouse which distributes to many smaller ones. (Is there a central one that deals with all of the dead, or are there many?) I’ve read the population of Wuhan is about 11 million. How many people die each day there normally, and how many urns are typically delivered? We just don’t know enough about anything there for this to bother me; 5000 doesn’t seem like a whole lot for a city of this size.

    It’s anecdotal evidence. But combined with China’s leadership shutting down theaters again, it does tend to indicate that if they truly thought for a while they had the COVID-19 outbreak under control, they were mistaken and have re-instituted safe distancing because more people are getting sick, or worse.

    Sure, but why believe this from China when you don’t believe anything else from China (I certainly don’t)? I don’t believe that China has the CCP virus under control, the numbers coming from China that our fellow traveler media try to crow about are probably complete fantasy, but this in particular doesn’t seem that important. Looks like a normal warehouse scene. The rumors about China using Uyghurs as disposable slave laborers in getting their factories reopened are much more concerning.

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    • March 31, 2020, at 6:07 AM PDT
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  19. Jon1979 Lincoln

    Paul Schinder (View Comment):

    Jon1979 (View Comment):

    Paul Schinder (View Comment):

    Kozak (View Comment):

    5000+ federal urns at one Wuhan crematorium.

     

    I don’t get why this has become a talking point. We don’t know if that’s actually taken in a single crematorium, or a crematorium warehouse which distributes to many smaller ones. (Is there a central one that deals with all of the dead, or are there many?) I’ve read the population of Wuhan is about 11 million. How many people die each day there normally, and how many urns are typically delivered? We just don’t know enough about anything there for this to bother me; 5000 doesn’t seem like a whole lot for a city of this size.

    It’s anecdotal evidence. But combined with China’s leadership shutting down theaters again, it does tend to indicate that if they truly thought for a while they had the COVID-19 outbreak under control, they were mistaken and have re-instituted safe distancing because more people are getting sick, or worse.

    Sure, but why believe this from China when you don’t believe anything else from China (I certainly don’t)? I don’t believe that China has the CCP virus under control, the numbers coming from China that our fellow traveler media try to crow about are probably complete fantasy, but this in particular doesn’t seem that important. Looks like a normal warehouse scene. The rumors about China using Uyghurs as disposable slave laborers in getting their factories reopened are much more concerning.

    Supposedly those photos were released, and then ordered censored by the Chinese government. Which could also be spin by the people who disseminated them in the first place. But if true it fits into the narrative of China seeking to micro-manage all coverage coming out of Wuhan beyond the point of trying to put the best spin possible on a bad situation, and into denying there is a bad situation and/or blaming the U.S. and others for the bad situation.

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    • March 31, 2020, at 6:34 AM PDT
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  20. Buckpasser Member
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    Henry Racette (View Comment):

    The (apathetic) King Prawn (View Comment):

    Henry Racette (View Comment):

    America does need journalists.

    It’s our misfortune that, at the moment, we appear not to have any.

    They suffer from the same problem as everyone else in the country: they view everything through the lens of the president.

    Yes. They did the same under the previous President, and the one before him as well.

    They tilt left, hard. Trump makes an easy target, but they just tilt left.

    Tilt??

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    • March 31, 2020, at 6:47 AM PDT
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  21. Kozak Member
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    Paul Schinder (View Comment):

    Kozak (View Comment):

    5000+ federal urns at one Wuhan crematorium.

     

    I don’t get why this has become a talking point. We don’t know if that’s actually taken in a single crematorium, or a crematorium warehouse which distributes to many smaller ones. (Is there a central one that deals with all of the dead, or are there many?) I’ve read the population of Wuhan is about 11 million. How many people die each day there normally, and how many urns are typically delivered? We just don’t know enough about anything there for this to bother me; 5000 doesn’t seem like a whole lot for a city of this size.

    The report was it was 1 crematorium. Long lines were seen at the other ones of people picking up urns. When contacted 8 of the ten said they “had no information”. 2 refused to pick up the phone. The Chinese lied about the death rate. That’s why it’s a “talking point”.

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    • March 31, 2020, at 8:38 AM PDT
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  22. Jeff Hawkins Coolidge

    My skepticism is now at an all time high on any reason for a story.

    Like today’s big talking point is that death totals have surpassed 9/11, now why is this important? They’re two different events entirely. A more comparable situation would be H1N1.

    If you’re not reading anything into it, it’s the last major catastrophe to befall us

    But, if you recall in the aftermath of 9/11 there was an underlying theme, Bush knew. Bush knew and he could have prevented it. No matter how vague the intel, Bush let this happen.

    Now, compare to Trump talking points. He also could have prevented all of this.

    H1N1 was an Obama issue. He of course did all he could. 

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    • March 31, 2020, at 10:08 AM PDT
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  23. Paul Schinder Member
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    Kozak (View Comment):

    Paul Schinder (View Comment):

    Kozak (View Comment):

    5000+ federal urns at one Wuhan crematorium.

     

    I don’t get why this has become a talking point. We don’t know if that’s actually taken in a single crematorium, or a crematorium warehouse which distributes to many smaller ones. (Is there a central one that deals with all of the dead, or are there many?) I’ve read the population of Wuhan is about 11 million. How many people die each day there normally, and how many urns are typically delivered? We just don’t know enough about anything there for this to bother me; 5000 doesn’t seem like a whole lot for a city of this size.

    The report was it was 1 crematorium. Long lines were seen at the other ones of people picking up urns. When contacted 8 of the ten said they “had no information”. 2 refused to pick up the phone. The Chinese lied about the death rate. That’s why it’s a “talking point”.

    Of course they lie! Hitler’s lied about Jews, Stalin’s lied about the kulaks, Mao’s lied about “capitalist roaders”, Bernie’s lied about billionaires. Leftists lie (and project). But this? It’s easy to estimate that if Wuhan has 11 million people, that they need 100-200 thousand urns during a normal year. 5000 is not that many. And of course, Wuhan is the origin point for a global pandemic, so they need more than usual. 

     

     

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  24. Misthiocracy got drunk and Member
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    The only thing left is the China model.

    There’s also the Swedish model, where the voters are (apparently) willing to simply accept a higher rate of deaths-per-million, at least so far. Of course, it’s not certain their attitude will remain that way if the death rate suddenly jumps a lot higher.

    (As of today Sweden’s deaths-per-million is 18, compared to the USA’s deaths-per-million of 11, and that’s considering that Sweden is eight days behind the USA in the timeline of their epidemic.)

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  25. Trajan Thatcher

    john batchelor had on a bloke how gets info. from sources in Wuhan and they’re lined up for urns outside mortuaries/crematoriums like they were tickets to the US….

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  26. Instugator Thatcher
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    Misthiocracy held his nose and (View Comment):

    The only thing left is the China model.

    There’s also the Swedish model, where the voters are (apparently) willing to simply accept a higher rate of deaths-per-million, at least so far. Of course, it’s not certain their attitude will remain that way if the death rate suddenly jumps a lot higher.

    (As of today Sweden’s deaths-per-million is 18, compared to the USA’s deaths-per-million of 11, and that’s considering that Sweden is eight days behind the USA in the timeline of their epidemic.)

    Isn’t the urban legend that Sweden practices Senicide? Maybe it isn’t a legend after all.

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    • March 31, 2020, at 5:20 PM PDT
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  27. Taras Coolidge

    Instugator (View Comment):

    Misthiocracy held his nose and (View Comment):

    The only thing left is the China model.

    There’s also the Swedish model, where the voters are (apparently) willing to simply accept a higher rate of deaths-per-million, at least so far. Of course, it’s not certain their attitude will remain that way if the death rate suddenly jumps a lot higher.

    (As of today Sweden’s deaths-per-million is 18, compared to the USA’s deaths-per-million of 11, and that’s considering that Sweden is eight days behind the USA in the timeline of their epidemic.)

    Isn’t the urban legend that Sweden practices Senicide? Maybe it isn’t a legend after all.

    All these government monopoly health care systems attain their much-lauded low costs by not trying very hard with sick neonates and oldsters.

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  28. Instugator Thatcher
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    Taras (View Comment):
    All these government monopoly health care systems attain their much-lauded low costs by not trying very hard with sick neonates and oldsters.

    True. Why the Brits killed almost a million citizens via the Liverpool Care Pathway between the late 1990s – 2013.

    Lets not forget young Alfie Evans, sentenced to die in a country “without a death penalty” just last year.

    Britain has a death penalty, they just don’t use it in criminal cases.

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    • April 1, 2020, at 10:43 AM PDT
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  29. Taras Coolidge

    Instugator (View Comment):

    Taras (View Comment):
    All these government monopoly health care systems attain their much-lauded low costs by not trying very hard with sick neonates and oldsters.

    True. Why the Brits killed almost a million citizens via the Liverpool Care Pathway between the late 1990s – 2013.

    Lets not forget young Alfie Evans, sentenced to die in a country “without a death penalty” just last year.

    Britain has a death penalty, they just don’t use it in criminal cases.

    We seem to be moving in the same direction, as several Democratic governors ban the use of chloroquine by doctors treating coronavirus patients — so that arthritis and lupus patients don’t run out!?!

    “Trump said it; therefore it has to be wrong.”

    I live in New York. Governor Cuomo’s action threatens me personally.

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  30. Western Chauvinist Member
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    Instugator (View Comment):

    Taras (View Comment):
    All these government monopoly health care systems attain their much-lauded low costs by not trying very hard with sick neonates and oldsters.

    True. Why the Brits killed almost a million citizens via the Liverpool Care Pathway between the late 1990s – 2013.

    Lets not forget young Alfie Evans, sentenced to die in a country “without a death penalty” just last year.

    Britain has a death penalty, they just don’t use it in criminal cases.

    Appalling and true.

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    • April 1, 2020, at 11:19 AM PDT
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