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Congress is objecting to a reauthorization of FISA until reforms are implemented. The abuse that was demonstrated in the Carter Page case made it clear that the program had been abused. I’m going to go out on a limb here and suggest that this is all posturing. After raising the issue in defense of Donald Trump, Republicans will pretend to care about FISA abuse. They have to go through the motions or look hypocritical. But are more intricate and arcane rules really the solution we need?

The word reform is pretty nondescript. “Reforms” are the kind of nonsense you get from “Blue Ribbon Commissions” or “Congressional Task Forces.” I’m willing to believe that the FISA program is important to the safety of the American people, so how do we solve this problem?

How about this: why don’t we just punish the folks at the FBI and DOJ who bent the rules in the Carter Page FISA? Some may deserve reprimands. Some may deserve firing. Some may deserve prosecution. It would be too easy to slap together some “reforms” that sound good on paper, but in reality would have no effect. How about we make an example out of the folks who purposefully ignored the protocols already in place. I bet that would focus the attention of those at the DOJ and FBI who thought the FISA provisions were more guidelines than rules.

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  1. DonG (skeptic) Coolidge

    String ’em up! Punishing them is better than trying to make rules that future traitors cannot exploit. Do both.

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    • February 26, 2020, at 8:41 PM PST
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  2. The Reticulator Member

    Yes.

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    • February 26, 2020, at 9:17 PM PST
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  3. Stad Thatcher

    JesseMcVay: I’m willing to believe that the FISA program is important to the safety of the American people, so how do we solve this problem? How about this? Why don’t we just punish the folks at the FBI and DOJ who bent the rules in the Carter Page FISA?

    Because it makes too much sense . . .

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    • February 27, 2020, at 5:20 AM PST
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  4. PHenry Member

    We need two things. Punishment for those who abused and violated the existing rules, and reform to put better safeguards in place to catch abuse in the future.

    Instead, as bureaucracies tend to do, they gloss over the blatant and intentional abuse and hide behind reform that is useless without enforcement.

     

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    • February 27, 2020, at 8:25 AM PST
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  5. Unsk Member

    AG Barr has shown himself to be a first class snake oil salesman.

    He gives a great speech saying all the right things, but when it comes to actually do something…..well it’s so hard!

    • He was told to declass. He has refused. He has declassified nothing. Particularly anything to do with FISA criminality. 

    • Members of Congress have sent him many referrals for prosecution, yet to date no one has been prosecuted in over a year as Attorney General. Not one prosecution. 

    • Now he has secretly tired have FISA re-authorized with no reforms in a backroom deal with the Traitor Dems while at the same time refusing to release any of the information about FISA abuse.

    I thinks that’s three strikes. He should be out. Done. Humiliated and scorned. He has proven himself to be Cocaine Mitch’s Deep State Stooge and another member of Trump’s cabinet that has betrayed him. 

     

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    • February 27, 2020, at 12:57 PM PST
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  6. Boss Mongo Member

    Punish the abusers.

    The two reforms that I would make are:

    -An advocate before the court whose job is to “jealously represent” that person, even though that person has no idea a FISA warrant on him is being adjudicated. And, to keep the advocate (and the prosecutors) honest,

    -Strip away limited immunity for either outright malice and for sloth, apathy and negligence. If the rights of the citizenry have a potential to be abused, the vulnerability of the prosecutor for sanction should be increased.

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    • February 27, 2020, at 1:14 PM PST
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  7. Stad Thatcher

    Unsk (View Comment):

    AG Barr has shown himself to be a first class snake oil salesman.

    He gives a great speech saying all the right things, but when it comes to actually do something…..well it’s so hard!

    • He was told to declass. He has refused. He has declassified nothing. Particularly anything to do with FISA criminality.

    • Members of Congress have sent him many referrals for prosecution, yet to date no one has been prosecuted in over a year as Attorney General. Not one prosecution.

    • Now he has secretly tired have FISA re-authorized with no reforms in a backroom deal with the Traitor Dems while at the same time refusing to release any of the information about FISA abuse.

    I thinks that’s three strikes. He should be out. Done. Humiliated and scorned. He has proven himself to be Cocaine Mitch’s Deep State Stooge and another member of Trump’s cabinet that has betrayed him.

     

    Or Barr could be biding his time as the investigation continues. Then there is the possibility of a grand jury:

    https://www.redstate.com/bonchie/2019/10/24/breaking-barr-durham-investigation-now-officially-criminal-investigation/

    If they really intend on moving forward with prosecutions, they have to have lots of ammunition perfectly lined up to get convictions . . .

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    • February 28, 2020, at 6:04 AM PST
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  8. PHenry Member

    Barr and Trump know that whatever happens, it has to happen in October of the election year. No hurry, just build the case and be ready for the avalanche of charges when the campaign heats up.

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    • February 28, 2020, at 6:13 AM PST
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