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Soon after Trump had Soleimani killed, a liberal friend of mine phoned.

“Was this not the last straw; even for you?” she queried. I could only say that I thought it was most excellent that this henchman of Al Queda and ISIS (or whatever) was finally meeting his Maker.

But World War III? Didn’t I realize that the Hitlerian Trump had killed this terrorist only in order to rile up the Iranians? Then the demonic Trump could finally justify his bringing us into WWIII, which, apparently had been his entire reason for becoming President. My friend continued: as soon as the Iranian President grimaced or insulted Trump, it would be all over and our planet would be an incinerated ball of ash.

I could only answer that I had no idea what she was talking about. Disappointed in my reaction, she let me turn the conversation to non-political events.

After we hung up, I decided to turn on the TV.

On Fox News, Tucker or Hannity was discussing something unrelated to Soleimani’s murder.

So I turned to the lamestream media. Oh my Lordy. Were they ever having themselves a field day. Nothing even close to the killing of Soleimani had ever happened prior to this. I personally could recall at least several political assassinations I had witnessed through news reports during my life: the killing of the leader in the Congo or Nigeria in the late 1950s, the assassination of the Vietnamese leader, Ngo Dinh Diem, shortly before JFK’s assassination, and others.

Anyway, all the Talking Heads on all the TV stations except Fox were discussing the imminence of WWIII. Plus I was amazed to witness the fact that finally, Trump was fulfilling every dastardly prediction that Rachel, Don Lemon or Joy Reid had ever invoked. Boy, was this all really making them gleeful.

I mean, there were Pentagon analysts, foreign correspondents, and every political commentator and pundit announcing the imminent destruction of our planet. Everyone in lamestream media was pretty much suggesting that within 96 hours the entire planet would be toast. And that although normally this thought would make these folks sad, they couldn’t help themselves as they danced around and were joyous that Trump had finally revealed his real colors.

Now, there were a number of people that Obama had killed, if you can remember that far back. I clearly remember the videos of Khaddafi being assassinated, with Hillary Clinton hearing the news and chortling over his demise. But when such dastardly matters were discussed on the telly, it was always pointed out what bad dudes these people were and how the world was safer.

Only in the case of Trump is it allowable for the TV Talking Heads to ignore how the world is a better place without someone like Soleimani in it. Without acknowledging that possibility, the TV executives’ then allowed the TV Fake New-sters to focus on how the President’s action occurred due to a maniacal propensity for wanting world wide devastation and thermo-nuclear war.

How can two opposing sides be so far apart? This is why it is impossible for either side to come together and discuss matters of political importance.

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  1. Joseph Eagar Member
    Joseph Eagar Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    There’s a long history of leaders starting wars to shore up domestic support and resolve social conflicts. What liberals don’t understand is that there’s also a long history of that strategy failing and the aforementioned wars leading to electoral disaster–as happened to Johnson and both Bushes. That’s partly why people like me are a little more worried America will descend into civil war then that we’ll start World War III; our elites just haven’t had much luck using external wars to resolve social conflicts since World War II, and they seem to be catching on (finally) to that fact.

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    • February 13, 2020, at 2:31 PM PST
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  2. RightAngles Member

    I can’t comment because I already died of Net Neutrality and Kavanaugh.

    • #2
    • February 13, 2020, at 2:36 PM PST
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  3. Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… Member

    RightAngles (View Comment):

    I can’t comment because I already died of Net Neutrality and Kavanaugh.

    RA, I really like your new avatar.

    • #3
    • February 13, 2020, at 2:42 PM PST
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  4. Randy Webster Member

    CarolJoy, Above Top Secret: This is why it is impossible for either side to come together and discuss matters of political importance.

    For starters, the left has become insane.

    • #4
    • February 13, 2020, at 2:43 PM PST
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  5. RightAngles Member

    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):

    RightAngles (View Comment):

    I can’t comment because I already died of Net Neutrality and Kavanaugh.

    RA, I really like your new avatar.

    Thanks, Jerry! I’m now incognito!

    • #5
    • February 13, 2020, at 2:46 PM PST
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  6. Rodin Member

    OK, @caroljoy,and now you friend says what? Is he/she the slightest bit suspicious of the talking heads she was listening to? 

    • #6
    • February 13, 2020, at 3:07 PM PST
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  7. Kozak Member
    Kozak Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    I hope Trump signs the law just passed by Congress limiting his actions in Iran.

    They want a say in any action?

    Let them have it. Good and hard.

    Next time the Iranians act up he should demand a joint session of Congress, and insist they vote on giving authority to deal with.

     

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    • February 13, 2020, at 3:16 PM PST
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  8. Old Bathos Moderator

    The left never remembers the Great Threats that require us to surrender all power and control to our rescuers after these Great Threats pass. Technically, Reagan, Bush ‘41 and Bush ‘43 each already started the next world war so Trump is responsible for WWVI (World War Six).

    • #8
    • February 13, 2020, at 3:20 PM PST
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  9. Franco Member
    Franco Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    The sad truth is our brains are meat-computers and suffer from garbage in-garbage out syndrome. Scott Adams has an interesting podcast mostly devoted to this, what he calls “two movies on one screen”. Furthermore, the media knows they are creating and living off of their false narratives. They are deliberately riling up your friend and others like her, addicting them to alarm, fear, and anger… making them return for the next episode. It’s like a combination of disaster movies, soap operas and whodunnits with your host…Rachel Madow or DonLemon.

    • #9
    • February 13, 2020, at 3:25 PM PST
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  10. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
    Bryan G. Stephens Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    CarolJoy, Above Top Secret: How can two opposing sides be so far apart? This is why it is impossible for either side to come together and discuss matters of political importance.

    Easy.

    They want excuses to by dictators. 

    Everything is about increasing their power at our expense. 

    • #10
    • February 13, 2020, at 4:31 PM PST
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  11. Chris O. Coolidge
    Chris O. Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Franco (View Comment):

    The sad truth is our brains are meat-computers and suffer from garbage in-garbage out syndrome. Scott Adams has an interesting podcast mostly devoted to this, what he calls “two movies on one screen”. Furthermore, the media knows they are creating and living off of their false narratives. They are deliberately riling up your friend and others like her, addicting them to alarm, fear, and anger… making them return for the next episode. It’s like a combination of disaster movies, soap operas and whodunnits with your host…Rachel Madow or DonLemon.

    This isn’t just the model for the left, either. It’s why I find it difficult to watch or listen to some conservative shows as well.

    @caroljoy Glad you got on to other topics with your friend. If that’s possible, then a little perspective might work it’s way in there.

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    • February 13, 2020, at 5:17 PM PST
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  12. Zafar Member

    Not starting WWIII seems like a low bar?

    • #12
    • February 13, 2020, at 6:53 PM PST
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  13. Joseph Eagar Member
    Joseph Eagar Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Chris O. (View Comment):

    Franco (View Comment):

    The sad truth is our brains are meat-computers and suffer from garbage in-garbage out syndrome. Scott Adams has an interesting podcast mostly devoted to this, what he calls “two movies on one screen”. Furthermore, the media knows they are creating and living off of their false narratives. They are deliberately riling up your friend and others like her, addicting them to alarm, fear, and anger… making them return for the next episode. It’s like a combination of disaster movies, soap operas and whodunnits with your host…Rachel Madow or DonLemon.

    This isn’t just the model for the left, either. It’s why I find it difficult to watch or listen to some conservative shows as well.

    @caroljoy Glad you got on to other topics with your friend. If that’s possible, then a little perspective might work it’s way in there.

    I remember hearing Sean Hannity comment early in Obama’s first term how horrifying he found the way that bad economic and political news made great business for his talk radio and cable TV shows. Definitely some perverse incentives there.

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    • February 13, 2020, at 8:14 PM PST
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  14. Concretevol Thatcher

    RightAngles (View Comment):

    I can’t comment because I already died of Net Neutrality and Kavanaugh.

    I missed that, had already died from pulling out of the Paris Accords. 

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    • February 13, 2020, at 8:16 PM PST
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  15. Concretevol Thatcher

    Sorry we have moved on from WWIII, now the crisis is (checks notes), SOMETHING ABOUT THE DOJ!!!

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    • February 13, 2020, at 8:18 PM PST
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  16. Jon1979 Lincoln

    Old Bathos (View Comment):

    The left never remembers the Great Threats that require us to surrender all power and control to our rescuers after these Great Threats pass. Technically, Reagan, Bush ‘41 and Bush ‘43 each already started the next world war so Trump is responsible for WWVI (World War Six).

    World War VII — Don’t forget President Ford and the Mayaguez incident.

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    • February 13, 2020, at 9:32 PM PST
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  17. JosePluma Thatcher

    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):

    RightAngles (View Comment):

    I can’t comment because I already died of Net Neutrality and Kavanaugh.

    RA, I really like your new avatar.

    The boots are still my favorite.

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    • February 13, 2020, at 9:58 PM PST
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  18. JosePluma Thatcher

    RightAngles (View Comment):

    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):

    RightAngles (View Comment):

    I can’t comment because I already died of Net Neutrality and Kavanaugh.

    RA, I really like your new avatar.

    Thanks, Jerry! I’m now incognito!

    With those eyes? Never!

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    • February 13, 2020, at 9:58 PM PST
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  19. James Lileks Contributor

    On Fox News, Tucker or Hannity was discussing something unrelated to Soleimani’s murder.

    The night ol’ Sool was dispatched, Tucker was criticizing it. 

    • #19
    • February 13, 2020, at 10:29 PM PST
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  20. CarolJoy, Above Top Secret Coolidge

    Rodin (View Comment):

    OK, @caroljoy,and now you friend says what? Is he/she the slightest bit suspicious of the talking heads she was listening to?

    No she has totally drunk the kool aide. You have to realize that every activity that the Republicans are enthused about is over analyzed and then miraculously a competing story comes along to slam the good idea as being Evil. Then that new meme is the rallying cry until the next good idea comes along.

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    • February 14, 2020, at 12:48 AM PST
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  21. CarolJoy, Above Top Secret Coolidge

    Chris O. (View Comment):

    Franco (View Comment):

    The sad truth is our brains are meat-computers and suffer from garbage in-garbage out syndrome. Scott Adams has an interesting podcast mostly devoted to this, what he calls “two movies on one screen”. Furthermore, the media knows they are creating and living off of their false narratives. They are deliberately riling up your friend and others like her, addicting them to alarm, fear, and anger… making them return for the next episode. It’s like a combination of disaster movies, soap operas and whodunnits with your host…Rachel Madow or DonLemon.

    This isn’t just the model for the left, either. It’s why I find it difficult to watch or listen to some conservative shows as well.

    @caroljoy Glad you got on to other topics with your friend. If that’s possible, then a little perspective might work it’s way in there.

    It’s also true that this is one discussion where I knew if I stuck to my guns and calmly stated how the World War III is imminent notion was a joke, I would never have to eat crow. Because if I was wrong, the world wouldn’t be here, so my friend and her “Na Na Na’s” would be just as gone as I was..

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    • February 14, 2020, at 12:57 AM PST
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  22. Franco Member
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    Chris O. (View Comment):

    Franco (View Comment):

    The sad truth is our brains are meat-computers and suffer from garbage in-garbage out syndrome. Scott Adams has an interesting podcast mostly devoted to this, what he calls “two movies on one screen”. Furthermore, the media knows they are creating and living off of their false narratives. They are deliberately riling up your friend and others like her, addicting them to alarm, fear, and anger… making them return for the next episode. It’s like a combination of disaster movies, soap operas and whodunnits with your host…Rachel Madow or DonLemon.

    This isn’t just the model for the left, either. It’s why I find it difficult to watch or listen to some conservative shows as well.

    Yes, except the dominant zeitgeist has infinitely more power. I’m not sure if you understand how deeply the left has infiltrated people’s world-views and primed them for believing their stories. What Fox News has capitalized on , and some pockets of talk radio is countering these narratives for people who have discovered the fraud. However, these outlets aren’t dominant enough to create their own fictions, nor can they keep people from encountering alternative views and rationales. 
    I always know the lefts’ story and position.Thats true with most everyone living in this world of pervasive media. I can’t avoid it. People can, and do avoid the rights’ views, quite easily and quite deliberately. In many cases, they do not want to know, because they feel threatened and they would have to leave the cult that’s so warm and fuzzy and emotionally and financially rewarding. Nope, they will cover their ears.

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    • February 14, 2020, at 3:14 AM PST
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  23. I Walton Member

    Randy Webster (View Comment):

    CarolJoy, Above Top Secret: This is why it is impossible for either side to come together and discuss matters of political importance.

    For starters, the left has become insane.

    They have always been insane. They learned how to take power more slowly and spread. They took the schools and will win if we don’t take them back. Taking them back means eliminating all of their superstructure, and central controls in the nation, the states and the cities. Markets work.

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    • February 14, 2020, at 4:16 AM PST
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  24. Stad Thatcher

    CarolJoy, Above Top Secret (View Comment):
    It’s also true that this is one discussion where I knew if I stuck to my guns and calmly stated how the World War III is imminent notion was a joke, I would never have to eat crow.

    Didn’t those morons move the Doomsday Clock up a bunch?

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    • February 14, 2020, at 7:22 AM PST
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  25. fidelio102 Coolidge

    @caroljoy makes the excellent point that the “experts” on CNN/MSNBC, who would have been in a panic if they really believed that WW3 was imminent, were instead chortling over the fact that POTUS had revealed that he was “ready to start a world war”.

    The relatively feeble response by Iran to the killing of Suleimani shows that POTUS, despite his lack of diplomatic skills, knew exactly how far he could go WITHOUT sparking a major conflict. Either he is smarter than most people give him credit for or he has advisers with good judgment to whom he is prepared to listen.

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    • February 14, 2020, at 7:29 AM PST
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  26. Fake John/Jane Galt Coolidge

    I never understood the WWIII stuff. Does the Left actually think if we unleashed the dogs of war on Iran that it would not be broken in a month or two? There would be no WWIII, just a broken piece of tripe third world power.

    as for Soleimani, I am not military but have friends and family that are. Soleimani activities killed those friends close. The evil SOB needed to go long time ago. I am tired of the Left elevating others deaths over American lifes.

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    • February 14, 2020, at 7:33 AM PST
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  27. Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… Member

    Leftism does seem to be fueled by hysteria and hate.

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    • February 14, 2020, at 7:57 AM PST
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  28. cirby Member

    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):

    I never understood the WWIII stuff. Does the Left actually think if we unleashed the dogs of war on Iran that it would not be broken in a month or two? There would be no WWIII, just a broken piece of tripe third world power.

    as for Soleimani, I am not military but have friends and family that are. Soleimani activities killed those friends close. The evil SOB needed to go long time ago. I am tired of the Left elevating others deaths over American lifes.

    They are absolutely sure that any attack by the US on any Middle Eastern power will result in the entire region declaring war against the US, immediately.

    Despite all of history for the last few decades, of course.

     

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    • February 14, 2020, at 8:34 AM PST
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  29. Jager Coolidge
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    Concretevol (View Comment):

    Sorry we have moved on from WWIII, now the crisis is (checks notes), SOMETHING ABOUT THE DOJ!!!

    Yeah that is the problem. Every thing is always a crisis. It can’t be wrong or silly it has to be the end of democracy or the world. 

    It is hard to take anything serious any more

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    • February 14, 2020, at 8:37 AM PST
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  30. Roderic Coolidge

    I’ve been meaning to write a post reviewing some of the nuttier things Democrats have been saying. Schiff saying that Trump will sell Alaska to the Russians. Some idiots saying that Trump wanted to be a king or a dictator. And so on.

    The fact that none of this has happened, and there are no signs that it’s going to happen, doesn’t slow them down.

    I’d all be funny if it wasn’t so depressing.

    Some say that Trump’s tweeting is a deliberate strategy to drive the Democrats crazy. If so then it’s working.

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    • February 14, 2020, at 8:44 AM PST
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