Senate Acquits Trump

 

The Senate voted to acquit President Trump on both articles of impeachment Wednesday. On the first impeachment charge of abuse of power, the tally was 48-52, far short of the two-thirds requirement. All Democrats voted for removal; Sen. Mitt Romney (Utah) was the only Republican voting for removal.

On the second impeachment charge, obstruction of Congress, it was 47-53 on a party-line vote. Romney voted with the majority on this one.

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  1. Ontheleftcoast Inactive
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    On to the next round of hearings in the House! Next stop: Impeachment 2.0?

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  2. tigerlily Member
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    The second charge (Obstruction of Congress) just failed 47-53 along party lines. Every single Democrat voted guilty on this joke of charge.

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  3. Kozak Member
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    Now it’s time to put this nonsense in the rear view and focus on kicking Democrat behind in November.

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  4. Miffed White Male Member
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    “Senate acquits Trump”

     

    And then immediately confirmed 10 judges?

     

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  5. MichaelKennedy Inactive
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    Trump now has the wind at his back. He was obviously reaching out to blacks with the SOTU speech and Pelosi gave him a nice Trump 2020 ad with her stunt. That was the official copy as required by the Constitution and I hope it ends up in The National Archives just as she left it.

    Romney added his mite to the outrage over this farce. I expect the GOP House will repeal the resolution a year from now, maybe as the first item of business.

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  6. Richard Easton Member
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    We need to defeat the vulnerable Dim Senators who are up for re-election this year. We will remember this Willard in 2024. 

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  7. katievs Member
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    Very distressing that not a single Dem voted not guilty. What a nightmare we’re living through.

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  8. Gary Robbins Reagan
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    Trump’s July 25, 2019 call happened the day after Mueller’s weak testimony before the House Judiciary Committee on July 24, 2019.

    I anticipate that Trump is feeling pretty cocky right now. Hopefully, he has learned his lesson about trying to pressure an ally to get dirt on an opponent. However, I would not be surprised if Trump immediately tries to cheat again in the 2020 election like he did on July 25, 2019, which several Republican Senators have said was wrongful.

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  9. DonG (skeptic) Coolidge
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    Richard Easton (View Comment):
    We will remember this Willard in 2024. 

    If Mittens ever appears in public in Utah, I hope his constituents remind him that he chose poorly. No quarter should be given for those that fail to defend the Constitution.

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  10. Hugh Member
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    katievs (View Comment):

    Very distressing that not a single Dem voted not guilty. What a nightmare we’re living through.

    There were whispers of a couple of possible not guilty votes but i expect that those senators got brought into line by chuck and nancy 

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  11. Percival Thatcher
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    Willard is going to have to explain something to me. Last week he needed more evidence to decide. This week he voted to convict. What exactly did he learn between then and now?

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  12. Ed G. Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Trump’s July 25, 2019 call happened the day after Mueller’s weak testimony before the House Judiciary Committee on July 24, 2019.

    I anticipate that Trump is feeling pretty cocky right now. Hopefully, he has learned his lesson about trying to pressure an ally to get dirt on an opponent. However, I would not be surprised if Trump immediately tries to cheat again in the 2020 election like he did on July 25, 2019, which several Republican Senators have said was wrongful.

    He was acquitted.

    No cheating.

    No pressure. Ask President Zelensky….again.

    No dirt digging either. The executive is charged with chasing down corruption, and there was plenty of evidence to justify asking about Hunter Biden and the firing of the prosecutor. See the Trump defense for an extremely linear presentation of the facts – just how you like it, except that this has authentic facts in it and I know you prefer your linear presentations fact free.

    Stop it already.

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  13. Miffed White Male Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Trump’s July 25, 2019 call happened the day after Mueller’s weak testimony before the House Judiciary Committee on July 24, 2019.

    I anticipate that Trump is feeling pretty cocky right now. Hopefully, he has learned his lesson about trying to pressure an ally to get dirt on an opponent. However, I would not be surprised if Trump immediately tries to cheat again in the 2020 election like he did on July 25, 2019, which several Republican Senators have said was wrongful.

    I hope he gets on the phone with the President of Ukraine tomorrow.

     

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  14. Ed G. Member
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    Hugh (View Comment):

    katievs (View Comment):

    Very distressing that not a single Dem voted not guilty. What a nightmare we’re living through.

    There were whispers of a couple of possible not guilty votes but i expect that those senators got brought into line by chuck and nancy

    If that is what brought them into line then they’re fools. Disingenuous and cynical fools. 

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  15. Hugh Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Trump’s July 25, 2019 call happened the day after Mueller’s weak testimony before the House Judiciary Committee on July 24, 2019.

    I anticipate that Trump is feeling pretty cocky right now. Hopefully, he has learned his lesson about trying to pressure an ally to get dirt on an opponent. However, I would not be surprised if Trump immediately tries to cheat again in the 2020 election like he did on July 25, 2019, which several Republican Senators have said was wrongful.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syV2LkGpQB0

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  16. Clifford A. Brown Contributor
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Trump’s July 25, 2019 call happened the day after Mueller’s weak testimony before the House Judiciary Committee on July 24, 2019.

    I anticipate that Trump is feeling pretty cocky right now. Hopefully, he has learned his lesson about trying to pressure an ally to get dirt on an opponent. However, I would not be surprised if Trump immediately tries to cheat again in the 2020 election like he did on July 25, 2019, which several Republican Senators have said was wrongful.

    No one is buying what you are selling. Sad.

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  17. Clifford A. Brown Contributor
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    Romney is a disgrace to an institution that has not distinguished itself lately.

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  18. Gary Robbins Reagan
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    I think that we should consider what Mitt Romney said to The Atlantic:

    “Mitt Romney didn’t want to go through with it.

    “‘This has been the most difficult decision I have ever had to make in my life,’ he told me yesterday afternoon in his Senate office. Roughly 24 hours later, Romney would deliver a speech announcing that he was voting to convict President Donald Trump on the first article of impeachment—abuse of power. For weeks, the senator from Utah had sat silently in the impeachment trial alongside his 99 colleagues, reviewing the evidence at night and praying for guidance. The gravity of the moment weighed on him, as did the pressure from members of his own party to acquit their leader. As his conscience tugged at him, he said, the exercise took on a spiritual dimension.

    “Romney, a devout member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, described to me the power of taking an oath before God: ‘It’s something which I take very seriously.’ Throughout the trial, he said, he was guided by his father’s favorite verse of Mormon scripture: Search diligently, pray always, and be believing, and all things shall work together for your good. ‘I have gone through a process of very thorough analysis and searching, and I have prayed through this process,’ he told me. ‘But I don’t pretend that God told me what to do.’

    In the end, the evidence was inescapable. ‘The president did in fact pressure a foreign government to corrupt our election process,’ Romney said. ‘And really, corrupting an election process in a democratic republic is about as abusive and egregious an act against the Constitution—and one’s oath—that I can imagine. It’s what autocrats do.’

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/02/romney-impeach-trump/606127/

    “According to Romney’s interpretation of Alexander Hamilton’s treatise on impeachment in “Federalist No. 65”—which he says he’s read ‘multiple, multiple times’—Trump’s attempts to enlist the Ukrainian president in interfering with the 2020 election clearly rose to the level of ‘high crimes and misdemeanors.’” 

     

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  19. Jager Coolidge
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    I think that we should consider what Mitt Romney said to The Atlantic:

    “Mitt Romney didn’t want to go through with it.

    “‘This has been the most difficult decision I have ever had to make in my life,’ he told me yesterday afternoon in his Senate office. Roughly 24 hours later, Romney would deliver a speech announcing that he was voting to convict President Donald Trump on the first article of impeachment—abuse of power. For weeks, the senator from Utah had sat silently in the impeachment trial alongside his 99 colleagues, reviewing the evidence at night and praying for guidance. The gravity of the moment weighed on him, as did the pressure from members of his own party to acquit their leader. As his conscience tugged at him, he said, the exercise took on a spiritual dimension.

    “Romney, a devout member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, described to me the power of taking an oath before God: ‘It’s something which I take very seriously.’ Throughout the trial, he said, he was guided by his father’s favorite verse of Mormon scripture: Search diligently, pray always, and be believing, and all things shall work together for your good. ‘I have gone through a process of very thorough analysis and searching, and I have prayed through this process,’ he told me. ‘But I don’t pretend that God told me what to do.’

    In the end, the evidence was inescapable. ‘The president did in fact pressure a foreign government to corrupt our election process,’ Romney said. ‘And really, corrupting an election process in a democratic republic is about as abusive and egregious an act against the Constitution—and one’s oath—that I can imagine. It’s what autocrats do.’

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/02/romney-impeach-trump/606127/

    “According to Romney’s interpretation of Alexander Hamilton’s treatise on impeachment in “Federalist No. 65”—which he says he’s read ‘multiple, multiple times’—Trump’s attempts to enlist the Ukrainian president in interfering with the 2020 election clearly rose to the level of ‘high crimes and misdemeanors.’”

    I think we should look to the end. He knew that this would hurt his ability to Legislate and represent Utah. He knew this would poison his relationship with the White House. He also knew that Trump would not be removed. He put himself before his obligation to his constituents. 

     

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  20. Percival Thatcher
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    I think that we should consider what Mitt Romney said to The Atlantic:

    I think considering what Romney says is a total waste of time.

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  21. Guruforhire Member
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    Percival (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    I think that we should consider what Mitt Romney said to The Atlantic:

    I think considering what Romney says is a total waste of time.

    #fact since 2006

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  22. Django Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Trump’s July 25, 2019 call happened the day after Mueller’s weak testimony before the House Judiciary Committee on July 24, 2019.

    I anticipate that Trump is feeling pretty cocky right now. Hopefully, he has learned his lesson about trying to pressure an ally to get dirt on an opponent. However, I would not be surprised if Trump immediately tries to cheat again in the 2020 election like he did on July 25, 2019, which several Republican Senators have said was wrongful.

    I’ll go along with Lee Zeldin’s assessment:

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  23. Front Seat Cat Member
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    I’m very glad this is over – it’s been very stressful and I have not enjoyed hearing the Democrats beat this president over the head, over and over. There are so many things going on in the world. Pelosi and entourage didn’t get their way – the pressure from the “Shadows” (and I don’t mean the idiot company that botched up the Iowa Caucus), which was to remove Trump and his presidency, and his name on the 2020 ballot. She exhibited that frustration by tearing up his speech – a moment of weakness – but she showed her cards. They are losing the game.

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  24. Kozak Member
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    Percival (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    I think that we should consider what Mitt Romney said to The Atlantic:

    I think considering what Romney says is a total waste of time.

    Mitt who?

    Forgotten already.

    Old news.

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  25. Percival Thatcher
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    Good article in The Federalist, Gary. Reading The Federalist is a antidote to reading The Atlantic.

    Romney’s Entire Career Has Been About Punishing Republicans For Voting For Him.

    Furthermore, as Rolling Stone points out, Romney has flipped on everything from abortion to health care, making it hard to determine whether he means what he espouses at any given moment.

    If you don’t like Romney’s principles now, just wait. A new set will be by shortly.

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  26. Cato Rand Inactive
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    DonG (skeptic) (View Comment):

    Richard Easton (View Comment):
    We will remember this Willard in 2024.

    If Mittens ever appears in public in Utah, I hope his constituents remind him that he chose poorly. No quarter should be given for those that fail to defend the Constitution.

    ‘l’etat c’est moi

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  27. Ed G. Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    In the end, the evidence was inescapable. ‘The president did in fact pressure a foreign government to corrupt our election process,’ Romney said.

    Except that that isn’t fact. It’s opinion. Grossly biased opinion spun by the dems in their fever and rage. Opinion refuted over and over by right reason and more likely and justified alternatives. 

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  28. Cato Rand Inactive
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    Percival (View Comment):

    Willard is going to have to explain something to me. Last week he needed more evidence to decide. This week he voted to convict. What exactly did he learn between then and now?

    That he wasn’t going to get more evidence because his colleagues voted not to hear it.

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  29. Ed G. Member
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    Cato Rand (View Comment):

    Percival (View Comment):

    Willard is going to have to explain something to me. Last week he needed more evidence to decide. This week he voted to convict. What exactly did he learn between then and now?

    That he wasn’t going to get more evidence because his colleagues voted not to hear it.

    Schiff and Nadler claimed their case was overwhelming as is. Why should the rest of us care more than they do? It’s their accusation to prove and they say they proved it. Why does anyone need more evidence? Either they haven’t been paying attention, or it doesn’t really matter to them anyway and they are only gaming this already knowing how they will ultimately vote. 

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  30. Percival Thatcher
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    Ed G. (View Comment):

    Cato Rand (View Comment):

    Percival (View Comment):

    Willard is going to have to explain something to me. Last week he needed more evidence to decide. This week he voted to convict. What exactly did he learn between then and now?

    That he wasn’t going to get more evidence because his colleagues voted not to hear it.

    Schiff and Nadler claimed their case was overwhelming as is. Why should the rest of us care more than they do? It’s their accusation to prove and they say they proved it. Why does anyone need more evidence? Either they haven’t been paying attention, or it doesn’t really matter to them anyway and they are only gaming this already knowing how they will ultimately vote.

    Logic is just a tool of the Patriarchy. Democrats reject it.

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