Recommended by Ricochet Members Created with Sketch. Trump 1st President to Speak Live to ‘March for Life’

 

Well, Trump did it. Good for him. I think, Trump supporters and Trump critics on the right, can all agree this is a great thing to happen today.

God Bless the people in this fight for life, God Bless Trump for attending, and God Bless America.

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  1. RightAngles Member

    The press will have to cover it now.

    • #1
    • January 24, 2020, at 1:31 PM PST
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  2. Jager Coolidge
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    But David French tells me that the Evangelicals and Christians have no good reason to support the President and lessen their movement if they don’t hate Trump.

    This is why Trump has high Republican support. As President Reagan did not like abortion. Bush the Younger was a very religious guy. Trump ends up the first person to do this. 

    • #2
    • January 24, 2020, at 1:32 PM PST
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  3. Kozak Member
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    Not Reagan. Not either Bush.

    • #3
    • January 24, 2020, at 1:35 PM PST
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  4. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    Jager (View Comment):

    But David French tells me that the Evangelicals and Christians have no good reason to support the President and lessen their movement if they don’t hate Trump.

    This is why Trump has high Republican support. As President Reagan did not like abortion. Bush the Younger was a very religious guy. Trump ends up the first person to do this.

    I am sure, though, that French, and those like him, at places like the Bulwark and Dispatch will cheer this as supporting the Right to Life. No Never Trumper would complain about this.

    • #4
    • January 24, 2020, at 1:45 PM PST
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  5. Bishop Wash Member

    Will be interesting to see how the Bulwark spins this as a bad thing. It’s wonderful. I think the first year he sent Pence.

    • #5
    • January 24, 2020, at 2:02 PM PST
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  6. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    Bishop Wash, Blk X-man/Wh pilot (View Comment):

    Will be interesting to see how the Bulwark spins this as a bad thing. It’s wonderful. I think the first year he sent Pence.

    There is just no way that either site would ever spin this as a bad thing. 

    • #6
    • January 24, 2020, at 2:19 PM PST
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  7. DrewInWisconsin Doesn't C… Coolidge

    Bishop Wash, Blk X-man/Wh pilot (View Comment):
    Will be interesting to see how the Bulwark spins this as a bad thing. It’s wonderful. I think the first year he sent Pence.

    Ha!

    Well, let me tell you:

    Jonathan V. Last, over at The Bulwark (no I will not link to it) sort of, kind of, says good on the President for speaking at the March for Life — President Trump being the first President to ever do so. And I agree: good for him for drawing attention to what is surely the most important moral issue of our times.

    But The Bulwark being The Bulwark, and Last being a sworn Trump-hater, can’t stop there.

    But here we are. And today Donald Trump is going to speak at the annual March for Life rally. Good for him. I guess.

    Just two questions:

    (1) Roughly how many people who are undecided on abortion will be convinced by Trump’s grafting himself onto the pro-life movement?

    (2) Do you think that number is higher, or lower, than the number of soft abortion supporters who will harden when they see as the face of the pro-life movement not earnest high school kids or Sister Bethany Madonna or Tim Tebow or Russell Moore—but Donald Trump, the most unpopular and polarizing figure in modern American politics?

    He’s pulling David French’s trick of constantly whining about how it looks! David French, of course, is famous for nagging evangelicals for four years that to support President Trump is to ruin one’s Christian witness. Having the Bad Orange Man at a pro-life rally looks bad! It ruins the purity of the pro-life movement!

    He wraps it up with this illogical statement:

    In allowing President Trump to speak at the March for Life the pro-life movement would be agreeing to own all of his policies and statements, too.

    That, of course, is complete nonsense.

    I mean, how hard would it have been to just say “Good for the President,” and leave it at that? Apparently, these gaslighting gasbags must make sure all pro-lifers understand that Orange Man Bad!

    Good grief, the President could cure cancer and these people would say “If you accept that cure, you are complicit in his (imaginary) crimes!”

    • #7
    • January 24, 2020, at 2:19 PM PST
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  8. Stad Thatcher

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):
    I am sure, though, that French, and those like him, at places like the Bulwark and Dispatch will cheer this as supporting the Right to Life. No Never Trumper would complain about this.

    I guess I’m too cynical, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they (like the MSM) say this is Trump merely distracting attention from the impeachment trial . . .

    • #8
    • January 24, 2020, at 2:20 PM PST
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  9. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf (View Comment):

    Bishop Wash, Blk X-man/Wh pilot (View Comment):
    Will be interesting to see how the Bulwark spins this as a bad thing. It’s wonderful. I think the first year he sent Pence.

    Ha!

    Well, let me tell you:

    Jonathan V. Last, over at The Bulwark (no I will not link to it) sort of, kind of, says good on the President for speaking at the March for Life — President Trump being the first President to ever do so. And I agree: good for him for drawing attention to what is surely the most important moral issue of our times.

    But The Bulwark being The Bulwark, and Last being a sworn Trump-hater, can’t stop there.

    But here we are. And today Donald Trump is going to speak at the annual March for Life rally. Good for him. I guess.

    Just two questions:

    (1) Roughly how many people who are undecided on abortion will be convinced by Trump’s grafting himself onto the pro-life movement?

    (2) Do you think that number is higher, or lower, than the number of soft abortion supporters who will harden when they see as the face of the pro-life movement not earnest high school kids or Sister Bethany Madonna or Tim Tebow or Russell Moore—but Donald Trump, the most unpopular and polarizing figure in modern American politics?

    He’s pulling David French’s trick of constantly whining about how it looks! David French, of course, is famous for nagging evangelicals for four years that to support President Trump is to ruin one’s Christian witness. Having the Bad Orange Man at a pro-life rally looks bad! It ruins the purity of the pro-life movement!

    He wraps it up with this illogical statement:

    In allowing President Trump to speak at the March for Life the pro-life movement would be agreeing to own all of his policies and statements, too.

    That, of course, is complete nonsense.

    I mean, how hard would it have been to just say “Good for the President,” and leave it at that? Apparently, these gaslighting gasbags must make sure all pro-lifers understand that Orange Man Bad!

    Good grief, the President could cure cancer and these people would say “If you accept that cure, you are complicit in his (imaginary) crimes!”

    Just wow.

     

    • #9
    • January 24, 2020, at 2:30 PM PST
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  10. DrewInWisconsin Doesn't C… Coolidge

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Just wow.

    I know, right? I actually looked over at Kristol and Sykes’ silly webzine because I wanted to see if they’d actually give him credit for something for a change. You know, a site that launched itself as “Conservatism Conserved” would surely praise the President for standing up for one of the bedrock issues of conservatism. Nope. Not without layering it with Orange Man Bad. Just a reminder, pro-lifers! He may be the first president EVER to speak at the March for Life, but don’t get too excited because Orange Man Bad!

    To be fair, “Conservatism Conserved” has a hardcore pro-abortion supporter on staff who was rightly called out for mocking pro-lifers last year. So why should I have expected an improvement?

    At least French seems to have ignored the President’s presence completely. (From what I can tell.)

    • #10
    • January 24, 2020, at 2:36 PM PST
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  11. Painter Jean Member

    Jager (View Comment):

    But David French tells me that the Evangelicals and Christians have no good reason to support the President and lessen their movement if they don’t hate Trump.

    This is why Trump has high Republican support. As President Reagan did not like abortion. Bush the Younger was a very religious guy. Trump ends up the first person to do this.

    I hate it when people erect strawmen to attack. No, David French did NOT say that Evangelicals and other Christians must “hate” Trump. 

    • #11
    • January 24, 2020, at 3:24 PM PST
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  12. Stina Member

    Painter Jean (View Comment):
    No, David French did NOT say that Evangelicals and other Christians must “hate” Trump. 

    All his bloviating towards Trump Supporters boils down to you are a bad Christian for supporting Trump.

    I know. NTs must stick together.

    • #12
    • January 24, 2020, at 5:45 PM PST
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  13. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    Painter Jean (View Comment):

    Jager (View Comment):

    But David French tells me that the Evangelicals and Christians have no good reason to support the President and lessen their movement if they don’t hate Trump.

    This is why Trump has high Republican support. As President Reagan did not like abortion. Bush the Younger was a very religious guy. Trump ends up the first person to do this.

    I hate it when people erect strawmen to attack. No, David French did NOT say that Evangelicals and other Christians must “hate” Trump.

    I am sad they cannot even celebrate this. That, at least, is not a strawman.

    • #13
    • January 24, 2020, at 6:21 PM PST
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  14. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    I don’t care, really on the Tump vs. Anti Trump. 

    This is as important to me as moving the Embassy in Israel. It is hugely symbolic, and that is exactly why the previous Republican presidents, even Ronald Reagan, shied away from it. This is what has been needed from a GOP president for ages. 

    We should all celebrate it. Anyone claiming to be Pro-life should celebrate it. 

    • #14
    • January 24, 2020, at 6:26 PM PST
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  15. Hugh Member

    Same time next year?

    • #15
    • January 24, 2020, at 8:00 PM PST
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  16. OmegaPaladin Moderator

    I am in horrible shape. While politically I resemble Cruz, physically I resemble Christie. I still admire skillful athletes and people in excellent physical condition, and I despise the whole “normalize obesity” movement.

    Perhaps there is something like that going on with Donald Trump. The guy is no social conservative personally and I doubt he practices a religion, but it seems like he respects social conservatives and religious people. He seems to agree with us, even though he’s not good at being a moral example.

    • #16
    • January 25, 2020, at 2:34 AM PST
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  17. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    OmegaPaladin (View Comment):

    I am in horrible shape. While politically I resemble Cruz, physically I resemble Christie. I still admire skillful athletes and people in excellent physical condition, and I despise the whole “normalize obesity” movement.

    Perhaps there is something like that going on with Donald Trump. The guy is no social conservative personally and I doubt he practices a religion, but it seems like he respects social conservatives and religious people. He seems to agree with us, even though he’s not good at being a moral example.

    Trump clearly has a gut understanding of right and wrong and patriotism. He knows lies when he sees them. The other side in this argument lies. 

     

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    • January 25, 2020, at 4:40 AM PST
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  18. Kozak Member
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    Hugh (View Comment):

    Same time next year?

    4 more years.

    • #18
    • January 25, 2020, at 5:42 AM PST
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  19. ToryWarWriter Thatcher

    Bishop Wash, Blk X-man/Wh pilot (View Comment):

    Will be interesting to see how the Bulwark spins this as a bad thing. It’s wonderful. I think the first year he sent Pence.

    Oh they have. Trump is corrupting Pro Life Movement next.

     

    https://thebulwark.com/trump-and-the-march-for-life/

     

     

    • #19
    • January 25, 2020, at 9:47 AM PST
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  20. ToryWarWriter Thatcher

    Trump in his Fox interview after the speech played it down. “I have sent a video the last few times, but here I was in town, and I thought why not go myself.”

    • #20
    • January 25, 2020, at 9:49 AM PST
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  21. Vance Richards Inactive
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    Not just showed up, but a very good speech.

    There are very few “life or death” issues in politics but this is one of them. Wouldn’t you hate to be on the wrong side of that just because you find someone’s personality off-putting? 

    • #21
    • January 25, 2020, at 10:28 AM PST
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  22. DrewInWisconsin Doesn't C… Coolidge

    Vance Richards (View Comment):

    Not just showed up, but a very good speech.

    There are very few “life or death” issues in politics but this is one of them. Wouldn’t you hate to be on the wrong side of that just because you find someone’s personality off-putting?

    Kind of suggests they were always on the wrong side, but faking it for the sake of fund-raising from people they saw as rubes.

    The last four years have sure been revelatory.

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    • January 25, 2020, at 10:44 AM PST
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  23. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf (View Comment):

    Vance Richards (View Comment):

    Not just showed up, but a very good speech.

    There are very few “life or death” issues in politics but this is one of them. Wouldn’t you hate to be on the wrong side of that just because you find someone’s personality off-putting?

    Kind of suggests they were always on the wrong side, but faking it for the sake of fund-raising from people they saw as rubes.

    The last four years have sure been revelatory.

    Indeed. They cannot celebrate it. Makes you question all they claim to hold dear.

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    • January 25, 2020, at 2:46 PM PST
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  24. Jager Coolidge
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    Painter Jean (View Comment):

    Jager (View Comment):

    But David French tells me that the Evangelicals and Christians have no good reason to support the President and lessen their movement if they don’t hate Trump.

    This is why Trump has high Republican support. As President Reagan did not like abortion. Bush the Younger was a very religious guy. Trump ends up the first person to do this.

    I hate it when people erect strawmen to attack. No, David French did NOT say that Evangelicals and other Christians must “hate” Trump.

    National Review May 3, 2018. 
    It is not moral but a sin to support Trump who lies and pays off porn stars. After Trump is gone his Christian supporters will have no credibility left.

    Yeah that’s my strawman. You are correct French does not say the words “you must hate Trump. “ Just it is immoral, sinful, hypocritical and damaging the religious movement to support Trump. My bad. 

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    • January 26, 2020, at 8:17 PM PST
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  25. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    At least French is not attacking Trump here.

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    • January 27, 2020, at 9:32 AM PST
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  26. Postmodern Hoplite Member

    RightAngles (View Comment):

    The press will have to cover it now.

    Well, if they did, I must have missed it. (Even if it has a “Trump” angle, the March for Life must be ignored as much as possible by the MSM.)

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    • January 27, 2020, at 10:04 AM PST
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  27. DrewInWisconsin Doesn't C… Coolidge

    Postmodern Hoplite (View Comment):

    RightAngles (View Comment):

    The press will have to cover it now.

    Well, if they did, I must have missed it.

    I understand CNN and MSNBC did not cover it. But I think the others did.

     

    • #27
    • January 27, 2020, at 10:37 AM PST
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