Yeah, I Know. I’m Not That Happy About It Either.

 

Trump Yard SignI was having breakfast with a friend this morning. He’d never heard of Kevin Clinesmith. “You never heard of Kevin Clinesmith?” … No. “The FBI lawyer in the Horowitz report?” … No. “The guy who doctored the email?” … No. I never heard anything about that.

My friend is not a dumb guy. He’s well educated. He has a professional degree. He listens to the news. He’d never heard of Kevin Clinesmith or anything about the FBI falsifying information for the FISA warrant on Carter Page.

If my friend never heard anything about Kevin Clinesmith or anything about the FISA warrant, then I’ll go out on a limb here and speculate that 99% of Americans are similarly unaware of the biggest political scandal in my lifetime: The FBI’s attempt to oust a duly elected president using lies and the extraordinary combined power of a rogue government agency allied with a complicit media.

Have you ever asked yourself why folks like Jerry Nadler and Adam Schiff can lie so egregiously and not pay any sort of political price for it? That’s why. America is either too stupid or too apathetic to care.

So there is only one way we’ll ever see any justice in this whole affair, and that is to re-elect Donald Trump.

I didn’t vote for Trump in 2016 and can think of a half dozen or so Republicans I’d rather see become president in 2020 other than Donald Trump. But it is looking less and less likely with every passing day that the villains who perpetrated this attempted coup against the president will ever answer for their crimes. Comey will walk. McCabe will walk. Page and Strzok will walk. Brennan and Clapper will walk. Schiff and Nadler will both get re-elected.  Kevin Clinesmith might go to jail. He might go to jail. He might not.

If these folks had done this in China or the old Soviet Union, they would have been tortured for a month or two before being taken out and shot. In America, they’ll sue the government for unfair dismissal, and go home with back pay and punitive damages. They’ll go to work as consultants for CNN or MSNBC and end up on the NY Times Bestseller List for the books they’ll write on how they stood up for American values during the darkest days of the Trump regime.

Sadly, there is only one way for justice to win the day. That is for Donald Trump to win re-election in 2020. There is an element of cutting off our noses to spite our face in that revelation. I don’t really want another four years of Donald Trump and all the sturm und drang that will come with it. But if Donald Trump loses, we all lose. If Donald Trump loses, Justice loses. If Donald Trump loses, they win.

So, sign me up for the Trump train. I’m not sure I want to go where this train is headed, but I don’t like where any of the other trains are going, and I sure as hell don’t want to reward the station master for trying to sabotage the locomotive.

I’ve designed the above yard sign that I will distribute to all my like-minded friends.

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  1. Bob Thompson Member
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    DrewInWisconsin, Type Monkey (View Comment):

    JesseMcVay: I don’t really want another four years of Donald Trump and all the sturm and drang that will come with it.

    I do. Sturm and Drang is what I voted for. The proverbial wrecking ball. The swamp-draining.

    So mine would say “Trump 2020: I’m wildly enthusiastic about it this time.”

    And I will add that if you re-read your post you might find your POV contradictory in a number of respects. Without all the sturm and drang of the last four years can you guess what you might have? You know all those people who are not in jail would likely be occupying big government jobs and doing more of what you want them in jail for and we can’t even imagine what else. Be thankful and help get Trump reelected.

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  2. JesseMcVay Inactive
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    Misthiocracy grudgingly (View Comment):

    But, but, what if the Libertarian Party nominates a really great candidate in 2020?

    [ Misthiocracy waits for laughter to die down … ]

    I’m a registered Libertarian.  I can assure you that barring some major league defection from one of the majority parties, that’s not about to happen.

     

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  3. Guruforhire Inactive
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    I promise to donate to the trump campaign only if we will make giant mecha-trump real.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSK3WvIPtBs

     

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  4. Patrick McClure Coolidge
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    DrewInWisconsin, Type Monkey (View Comment):

    JesseMcVay: I don’t really want another four years of Donald Trump and all the sturm and drang that will come with it.

    I do. Sturm and Drang is what I voted for. The proverbial wrecking ball. The swamp-draining.

    So mine would say “Trump 2020: I’m wildly enthusiastic about it this time.”

    I’ll take one of those Drew

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  5. Western Chauvinist Member
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    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    rgbact (View Comment):

    Good luck trying to motivate people with the “our guy is terrible, but the other side is worse” message. Its not easy to do and its a path to never ending dropping of all your standards. The Democrats tried this tact in 2016, and failed badly. I’m not interested.

    So, enjoy another deficit busting spending deal and a North Korean missile for Christmas, and Trump’s Ukrainian fake investigations…and keep fighting the good fight against sloppy FBI warrants.

    There were no sloppy FBI warrants. They were very carefully and meticulously crafted.

     

    He knows that. He just says such things to watch our heads explode. There’s a term for that…

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  6. Django Member
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    Columbo (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    rgbact (View Comment):
    More likely, it’ll be Trump vs. Biden. So, unless you think Biden will magically tank our precious Trumpian economy……I’d say Joe is a decent option. He’s old and gives us a chance to win back the House and rebuild for 2024 and send Trump away forever.

    Biden gives us a chance to finalize the corruption forever. If we win back the House after letting all of this Democrat criminality go unopposed, under those terms that win will be the biggest loss ever.

    As seen in Funny Political Memes as posted by @samuelblock

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  7. DrewInWisconsin, Type Monkey Member
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    rgbact (View Comment):
    More likely, it’ll be Trump vs. Biden. So, unless you think Biden will magically tank our precious Trumpian economy……I’d say Joe is a decent option. He’s old and gives us a chance to win back the House and rebuild for 2024 and send Trump away forever.

    Biden . . . who just announced he’ll proudly throw away hundreds of thousands of jobs for American workers because he wants to stop gas and oil production.

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  8. Django Member
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    DrewInWisconsin, Type Monkey (View Comment):

    rgbact (View Comment):
    More likely, it’ll be Trump vs. Biden. So, unless you think Biden will magically tank our precious Trumpian economy……I’d say Joe is a decent option. He’s old and gives us a chance to win back the House and rebuild for 2024 and send Trump away forever.

    Biden . . . who just announced he’ll proudly throw away hundreds of thousands of jobs for American workers because he wants to stop gas and oil production.

    The same guy who is being described by Obama’s doctor as physically unfit for office and not a healthy man? 

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  9. rgbact Inactive
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    DrewInWisconsin, Type Monkey (View Comment):

    rgbact (View Comment):
    More likely, it’ll be Trump vs. Biden. So, unless you think Biden will magically tank our precious Trumpian economy……I’d say Joe is a decent option. He’s old and gives us a chance to win back the House and rebuild for 2024 and send Trump away forever.

    Biden . . . who just announced he’ll proudly throw away hundreds of thousands of jobs for American workers because he wants to stop gas and oil production.

    Oh well, he said it. At least he’s honest about it. That could be good or bad news, depending on where you live. If you live in Iowa or Arizona, its good news. Probably won’t play well in PA or OH though, unless they have more wind resources than I imagine.

    The energy still has to be produced, so its not like those jobs are gone. Just cost more.

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  10. Patrick McClure Coolidge
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    rgbact (View Comment):

    Good luck trying to motivate people with the “our guy is terrible, but the other side is worse” message. Its not easy to do and its a path to never ending dropping of all your standards. The Democrats tried this tact in 2016, and failed badly. I’m not interested.

    So, enjoy another deficit busting spending deal and a North Korean missile for Christmas, and Trump’s Ukrainian fake investigations…and keep fighting the good fight against sloppy FBI warrants.

    You have eyes but refuse to see. 

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  11. Full Size Tabby Member
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    rgbact (View Comment):

    JesseMcVay (View Comment):
    But if you live in a swing state like Michigan or Wisconsin and your choice is Trump vs Bernie or Trump vs Warren, do you really repudiate Trump? Vote your conscience. You’ll get no grief from me

    More likely, it’ll be Trump vs. Biden. So, unless you think Biden will magically tank our precious Trumpian economy……I’d say Joe is a decent option. He’s old and gives us a chance to win back the House and rebuild for 2024 and send Trump away forever.

    But a President Biden would not actually be running things (due to his lack of mental acuity). Most likely the wacky anti-liberty and anti-commerce people who have otherwise taken over the Democratic Party will use a President Biden as a puppet while they implement their policies. 

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  12. Bob Thompson Member
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    Full Size Tabby (View Comment):

    rgbact (View Comment):

    JesseMcVay (View Comment):
    But if you live in a swing state like Michigan or Wisconsin and your choice is Trump vs Bernie or Trump vs Warren, do you really repudiate Trump? Vote your conscience. You’ll get no grief from me

    More likely, it’ll be Trump vs. Biden. So, unless you think Biden will magically tank our precious Trumpian economy……I’d say Joe is a decent option. He’s old and gives us a chance to win back the House and rebuild for 2024 and send Trump away forever.

    But a President Biden would not actually be running things (due to his lack of mental acuity). Most likely the wacky anti-liberty and anti-commerce people who have otherwise taken over the Democratic Party will use a President Biden as a puppet while they implement their policies.

    Hunter could help. He handles big stuff. Maybe Secretary of State since he’s worldly.

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  13. Gary Robbins Member
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    Gumby Mark (R-Meth Lab of Demo… (View Comment):

    Yes indeed. I have the same reservations but if Donald Trump is not reelected in 2020 the greatest American political scandal of my lifetime, and perhaps ever, will disappear as if it never occurred. If there are no consequences from this, and there will not be if a Democrat is elected, it will only get worse.

    I very, very reluctantly and, at the last moment decided to vote for Trump in 2016 but will do so unhesitatingly in 2020 and plan to contribute to his campaign.

    Trump 2020. It matters.

    I can’t believe I’m writing this but there it is.

    I am not on the Trump Train, but this reminds me of the 1991 Louisiana Governor’s race.  Louisiana has a jungle primary where all of the candidates are on the ballot, and if no one gets a majority, there is a run-off.  The two leading candidates were Edwin Edwards, a epic scoundrel and crook who later was sentenced to federal prison, and David Duke, a former Grand Wizard of the KKK.  Duke, a Republican, was condemned by President George H.W. Bush.  The bumper sticker for Edwards was:

    Vote for the Crook.  It’s important.  

    Edwards won the runoff election.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1991_Louisiana_gubernatorial_election

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  14. Clifford A. Brown Member
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    Sweezle (View Comment):
    Supreme Court is the best reason to be grateful for Trump. But Trump has accomplished much more than I expected with job growth, real wage growth, improved economy and much more. 

    Yes. Much more than just the Supremes; all the federal courts! Closing on 160 seats in three years! And for the first time a Republican working off a list of Constitutionalist nominees, so having a shot at really reshaping our case law to more closely conform to the Constitution.

    At the most basic level, President Trump has introduced the revolutionary idea of actually holding officeholders to their campaign promises. That is a good thing for our republic, long term, if voters affirm this with reelection.

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  15. EDISONPARKS Member
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    rgbact (View Comment):

    JesseMcVay (View Comment):
    But if you live in a swing state like Michigan or Wisconsin and your choice is Trump vs Bernie or Trump vs Warren, do you really repudiate Trump? Vote your conscience. You’ll get no grief from me

    More likely, it’ll be Trump vs. Biden. So, unless you think Biden will magically tank our precious Trumpian economy……I’d say Joe is a decent option. He’s old and gives us a chance to win back the House and rebuild for 2024 and send Trump away forever.

    It’s certainly appears as if Biden has the women’s vote in his hands:

    Image result for INAPPROPRIATE JOE BIDEN"

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  16. Joseph Stanko Coolidge
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    FWIW I’ve never heard of Kevin Clinesmith, either.

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  17. OccupantCDN Coolidge
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    Spin (View Comment):

    I’m on the Trump train with you. And not just because of impeachment. I was thinking last night…if asked to articulate why I was opposed to Trump and now a supporter of Trump, what would I say? So, you asked. Sort of, so I’ll say (in no particular order):

    First, things just aren’t that bad. “That bad” being defined as “all the bad things I thought would happen because Trump became president. Indeed, outside of the kabuki theater that is DC and the cable news channels 24×7, things are pretty dang great. Now, that isn’t because Trump is President. It is because Hillary isn’t. Some will argue that point. But I think the market response to Trump is largely because of what Trump wasn’t going to do, as opposed to the things Hillbully was going to do.

    Second, policy wise Trump has been fine. I figured him for a less articulate version of Bill Clinton. In some ways, yes, but generally he’s been right of center on issues of policy.

    Third, judges. I need say no more (this maybe should be first, but I did say “in no particular order”.

    Fourth, “He fights!” This is usually said to disparage Trump supporters, by non-Trump supporters on the right. I’ve said it myself. I read GWB’s Decision Points book right after he left office. I thought “Why the hell didn’t he say all this when he was President?” It’s chic these days to bad mouth Dubya, but I still like him. I was always frustrated that he didn’t defend himself from the vicious attacks from the media. Trump does. I’m reminded of that line in the Power Rangers movie when the bad guy says “It will be as if they never existed!!!” and his woman says “Finally…a REAL man!” Case in point is Trump’s letter to NancyBear. And he’s given Republicans cover to do the same. He’s shown that we can and should fling the poo back at them.

    Finally, Russia-gate and Ukraine-gate. These are absolute nonsense issues that were intended to serve as caltrops for the administration and nothing more. It’s not Trump they are after. It is us. It is what we believe in. Remember Obama called us bittter-clingers. Al Gore called us brown shirts and “third-chromosome” types. They hate us.

    So yeah, I’ve got my tickets for the Trump train. I don’t expect him to be perfect. I don’t take moral direction from him. But I’ll take four more years, no question. Plus, next year I’ll be voting in a purple state. So my vote will actually count for something.

    By the very standards that the democrats had set for him in 2017. Trump has been a roaring success. No nuclear wars, no market crashes, economy humming along, no mass death in the streets (yet).

     

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  18. OkieSailor Member
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    Sweezle (View Comment):
    I think the Supreme Court is the best reason to be grateful for Trump.

    Courts, plural. It goes way beyond just the Supremes.

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  19. OkieSailor Member
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    PHCheese (View Comment):

    Before the primary I wrote several posts against Trump. I was a Cruze guy. I reluctantly voted for him in the general. I must admit that I would have jumped of a bridge before voting for HRC. No one is perfect but Trump has me now. I might jump off a bridge if I can’t vote for him.

    I’d still prefer Cruz but somehow I never get my first choice ;>)

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  20. OkieSailor Member
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    rgbact (View Comment):

    JesseMcVay (View Comment):
    But if you live in a swing state like Michigan or Wisconsin and your choice is Trump vs Bernie or Trump vs Warren, do you really repudiate Trump? Vote your conscience. You’ll get no grief from me

    More likely, it’ll be Trump vs. Biden. So, unless you think Biden will magically tank our precious Trumpian economy……I’d say Joe is a decent option. He’s old and gives us a chance to win back the House and rebuild for 2024 and send Trump away forever.

    Biden will call a screeching halt to the realignment of the Courts and will also reverse the slide of the Federal Register, the two things that really matter. So, no he is not acceptable to me nor is he good for our future Liberties. 

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  21. OkieSailor Member
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    OK, now WHERE can I get one of those signs? Make it TWO signs. 

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  22. Hartmann von Aue Member
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    DrewInWisconsin, Type Monkey (View Comment):

    rgbact (View Comment):
    More likely, it’ll be Trump vs. Biden. So, unless you think Biden will magically tank our precious Trumpian economy……I’d say Joe is a decent option. He’s old and gives us a chance to win back the House and rebuild for 2024 and send Trump away forever.

    Biden . . . who just announced he’ll proudly throw away hundreds of thousands of jobs for American workers because he wants to stop gas and oil production.

    Yeah, it’s like they are intent on writing Republicans’ campaign ads for them….

     

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  23. Bob Thompson Member
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    OkieSailor (View Comment):

    PHCheese (View Comment):

    Before the primary I wrote several posts against Trump. I was a Cruze guy. I reluctantly voted for him in the general. I must admit that I would have jumped of a bridge before voting for HRC. No one is perfect but Trump has me now. I might jump off a bridge if I can’t vote for him.

    I’d still prefer Cruz but somehow I never get my first choice ;>)

    I was with Cruz until he was out. I still like him. But we got lucky or blessed to have gotten Trump. If Cruz had been nominated, and even had he won the election, would we have learned all of what we have learned about our bureaucracy and our political parties? And I do mean both Republicans and Democrats. I’m with @phcheese here.

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  24. Gary Robbins Member
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    rgbact (View Comment):

    JesseMcVay (View Comment):
    But if you live in a swing state like Michigan or Wisconsin and your choice is Trump vs Bernie or Trump vs Warren, do you really repudiate Trump? Vote your conscience. You’ll get no grief from me

    More likely, it’ll be Trump vs. Biden. So, unless you think Biden will magically tank our precious Trumpian economy……I’d say Joe is a decent option. He’s old and gives us a chance to win back the House and rebuild for 2024 and send Trump away forever.

    Amen.  Biden is the best Democratic alternative.  

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  25. Arahant Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    Amen. Biden is the best Democratic alternative.

    Which is like saying the best anesthetic-free major surgery with unsterilized tools you could have.

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  26. Old Bathos Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    rgbact (View Comment):

    JesseMcVay (View Comment):
    But if you live in a swing state like Michigan or Wisconsin and your choice is Trump vs Bernie or Trump vs Warren, do you really repudiate Trump? Vote your conscience. You’ll get no grief from me

    More likely, it’ll be Trump vs. Biden. So, unless you think Biden will magically tank our precious Trumpian economy……I’d say Joe is a decent option. He’s old and gives us a chance to win back the House and rebuild for 2024 and send Trump away forever.

    Amen. Biden is the best Democratic alternative.

    That view may have had some vestigial merit before (a) Biden abandoned any and all resistance to the absurd hard left except for a position in favor of a more gradual destruction of US health care rather than an immediate Warrenesque wipeout and (b) he has conspicuously deteriorated from being a mere buffoon to being dangerously senile.

    It is diagnostic of the narcissism animating much of NeverTrumpism that its adherents would prefer a castastrophic outcome for our nation rather than accept continued policy success under Trump and that they make such a sick choice solely to vindicate their failed prediction (wish?) that a Trump presidency would be an abject failure. 

    The next election decides whether the federal judiciary (from top to bottom) no longer threatens to impose The Narrative on us. The next election decides whether an utterly corrupt federal bureaucracy and MSM are vindicated or made truly accountable. And whether a slew of disastrous doctrines literally erase the Constitution.

    You don’t like Donald Trump so the nation must suffer and wrongdoing triumph because of your feelings? Trump’s manifest failings did not prevent him from being a highly successful president. Admit it. Make some grownup choices and just stop looking for a vindication of your failed expectations. What you want is not on the grownup menu.

     

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  27. EDISONPARKS Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    rgbact (View Comment):

    JesseMcVay (View Comment):
    But if you live in a swing state like Michigan or Wisconsin and your choice is Trump vs Bernie or Trump vs Warren, do you really repudiate Trump? Vote your conscience. You’ll get no grief from me

    More likely, it’ll be Trump vs. Biden. So, unless you think Biden will magically tank our precious Trumpian economy……I’d say Joe is a decent option. He’s old and gives us a chance to win back the House and rebuild for 2024 and send Trump away forever.

    Amen. Biden is the best Democratic alternative.

    Image result for creepy joe biden"

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  28. DrewInWisconsin, Type Monkey Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Amen. Biden is the best Democratic alternative.

    For a guy who claims that the President’s behavior is disqualifying, you sure have no trouble excusing Biden’s deep corruption, groping of women and young girls, pathological lying, and anger-management issues.

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  29. Django Member
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    DrewInWisconsin, Type Monkey (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Amen. Biden is the best Democratic alternative.

    For a guy who claims that the President’s behavior is disqualifying, you sure have no trouble excusing Biden’s deep corruption, groping of women and young girls, pathological lying, and anger-management issues.

    Don’t forget all those who wanted Trump removed via the 25th Amendment because he wasn’t up to the job mentally, and now support Biden who, at times, barely seems to know where he is. 

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  30. EDISONPARKS Member
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    Django (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Type Monkey (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Amen. Biden is the best Democratic alternative.

    For a guy who claims that the President’s behavior is disqualifying, you sure have no trouble excusing Biden’s deep corruption, groping of women and young girls, pathological lying, and anger-management issues.

    Don’t forget all those who wanted Trump removed via the 25th Amendment because he wasn’t up to the job mentally, and now support Biden who, at times, barely seems to know where he is.

    Of all the septuagenarian candidates (Warren 70, Trump 73, Bloomberg 77, Biden 77, and Bernie 78) IMO Biden, based his public appearances and interviews, appears to be the one candidate who is showing the affects of aging to where one questions whether he would up to the demanding job of leader of the free world.   Biden would be 78 when he took office and 82 when his first term ended.

    The judgement Biden uses as to what antidotes he shares publicly, verbally attacking the guy in Iowa, biting his wife’s finger during her speech, etc.  exhibit signs of of an old guy losing his filter which we often attribute to …. being old  …. or needing to go take your meds, lie down and take nap (ie: Not be President of the United States).

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