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This makes me want to cry!

The Wing was supposed to be the ultimate sanctuary for women: decidedly feminine in design, with walls and furniture in shades of millennial pink and a thermometer set at a women’s-clothing-friendly 72 degrees. Conference rooms and telephone booths are named after feminist icons like Anita Hill and fictional literary heroines such as Hermione Granger of “Harry Potter” fame. It offers perks that other co-working spaces can’t match — showers stocked with high-end beauty products and events featuring big names such as Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

Critics of the Wing were quick to point out the lack of diversity in the spaces, but the company’s expansion and popularity has brought up a completely different issue that was never expected to arise: straight men wanting to come in and hang out.

Sure, it’s not against the rules for men to be at the lady lair, which costs anywhere from $185 to $250 a month in the US to join. But that’s only because legally the company can’t ban men.

We used to have men’s clubs until the feminists said they was sexist. The same went for all-male or all-female schools until it was deemed unfair (although there are still women’s colleges out there). I always thought outlawing one-sex institutions (public, private, or religious) went against the free association (assembly) part of the Constitution.

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  1. RightAngles Member

    Good grief. I’d never even heard of this. What a crock. And this:

    WHEN WOMEN GATHER, WE GO FURTHER, FASTER, TOGETHER.

    is a bunch of baloney. Women do not help each other, are they kidding me. Solidarity among women is a joke. Women are horrible to each other. Other women have made me cry more than any man ever could. Good for any men who mess with their stupid causes and throw their little rules back in their faces.

    • #1
    • December 18, 2019, at 7:05 AM PST
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  2. Stad Thatcher
    Stad

    RightAngles (View Comment):

    Good grief. I’d never even heard of this. What a crock. And this:

    WHEN WOMEN GATHER, WE GO FURTHER, FASTER, TOGETHER.

    is a bunch of baloney. Women do not help each other, are they kidding me. Solidarity among women is a joke. Women are horrible to each other. Other women have made me cry more than any man ever could. Good for any men who mess with their stupid causes and throw their little rules back in their faces.

    Remind me never to make you angry . . .

    But seriously, I’ll bet many of the women in this club aren’t aware it was women (primarily feminists) who brought this about with court action or political pressure, women angry such things as men’s clubs existed.

    Funny statement from the article:

    “The problem, multiple members have told The Post, is that the men physically take up too much space with their bigger bodies and belongings.”

    Maybe the club should only allow pajama boys. They take up much less room, and certainly wouldn’t threaten any woman . . .

    • #2
    • December 18, 2019, at 7:19 AM PST
    • 6 likes
  3. Mate De Inactive

    What is it with women they can NEVER see their own hypocrisy? These same women would complain endlessly about some all men’s club. What was the golf club that wouldn’t let women in for a while? I forgot the name, but they were forced to let women in by the same shrill harpy types that are now complaining about dudes infiltrating their “space”. Same with every other all male institution or clubs that eventually had to relent because of chicks, JUST LIKE THESE ONES.

    I think we will end up with sex segregated spaces again. It will take some time but I think dudes will get their clubs back eventually.

    • #3
    • December 18, 2019, at 7:28 AM PST
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  4. Brian Inactive

    Sounds like a great place for my weekly poker night :) 

    • #4
    • December 18, 2019, at 7:44 AM PST
    • 6 likes
  5. Mate De Inactive

    RightAngles (View Comment):

    is a bunch of baloney. Women do not help each other, are they kidding me. Solidarity among women is a joke. Women are horrible to each other. Other women have made me cry more than any man ever could. Good for any men who mess with their stupid causes and throw their little rules back in their faces.

    Oh totally, which is why I always avoid professional organizations that exists to just promote women. The women I know that are big promoters in those organizations are the most ruthless, back stabbing, B*****S. Who would sell their own grandmother to get ahead. Also, I know a few who also used sex to advance in their careers as well. I remember a friend of mine going on and on about this women we knew and how successful she was and how she started this consulting business on her own and blah blah blah. I mentioned, how that women slept with the guy who was her main investor and he helped her get her contacts to get her business started. My friend said “yea, well, I don’t like that she did that.”

    • #5
    • December 18, 2019, at 7:44 AM PST
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  6. Pony Convertible Member

    RightAngles (View Comment):

    Good grief. I’d never even heard of this. What a crock. And this:

    WHEN WOMEN GATHER, WE GO FURTHER, FASTER, TOGETHER.

    is a bunch of baloney. Women do not help each other, are they kidding me. Solidarity among women is a joke. Women are horrible to each other. Other women have made me cry more than any man ever could. Good for any men who mess with their stupid causes and throw their little rules back in their faces.

    My wife would agree with you. She has often said, there is nothing worse than working in an office full of women (my wife is a nurse that works in a lot of different medical clinics on a part time basis).

    • #6
    • December 18, 2019, at 8:11 AM PST
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  7. David Carroll Thatcher
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    The complaining feminists have been bitten by the old adage: be careful what you wish for because you might get it!

    • #7
    • December 18, 2019, at 10:13 AM PST
    • 4 likes
  8. Misthiocracy got drunk and Member
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    Stad: The same went for all-male or all-female schools until it was deemed unfair (although there are still women’s colleges out there).

    There are still five degree-granting secular men’s colleges in the United States.

    One of ’em (Morehouse College) also happens to be a “historically-black” college. Reportedly, in recent years Morehouse has seen an increase in the number of applications from traditionalist caucasian men seeking an alternative to the “party school” environment endemic to many (most?) colleges these days. For example, Morehouse had its first caucasian valedictorian about a decade ago.

    • #8
    • December 18, 2019, at 10:36 AM PST
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  9. Stad Thatcher
    Stad

    Brian (View Comment):

    Sounds like a great place for my weekly poker night :)

    What an evil idea. I like you . . .

    • #9
    • December 18, 2019, at 10:45 AM PST
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  10. Stad Thatcher
    Stad

    Mate De (View Comment):
    Oh totally, which is why I always avoid professional organizations that exists to just promote women.

    As a Fed, I remember seeing memos for meetings of Women in Government and the Society of Women Engineers. None of the female engineers I worked with were members of either group. Not only were they highly competent, but a pleasure to work with . . .

    • #10
    • December 18, 2019, at 10:49 AM PST
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  11. Misthiocracy got drunk and Member
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    Stad (View Comment):

    Mate De (View Comment):
    Oh totally, which is why I always avoid professional organizations that exists to just promote women.

    As a Fed, I remember seeing memos for meetings of Women in Government and the Society of Women Engineers. None of the female engineers I worked with were members of either group. Not only were they highly competent, but a pleasure to work with . . .

    • #11
    • December 18, 2019, at 11:01 AM PST
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  12. Joshua Bissey Coolidge

    Misthiocracy grudgingly (View Comment):

    Stad (View Comment):

    Mate De (View Comment):
    Oh totally, which is why I always avoid professional organizations that exists to just promote women.

    As a Fed, I remember seeing memos for meetings of Women in Government and the Society of Women Engineers. None of the female engineers I worked with were members of either group. Not only were they highly competent, but a pleasure to work with . . .

    “Woman engineer.” I’ll never understand why people think a woman engineer is a woman who is an engineer. A woman engineer, if such existed, would be someone who designs or maintains women. The closest thing to a woman engineer, aside from the Creator, would be a gynecologist.

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    • December 18, 2019, at 12:24 PM PST
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  13. RightAngles Member

    Mate De (View Comment):

    RightAngles (View Comment):

    is a bunch of baloney. Women do not help each other, are they kidding me. Solidarity among women is a joke. Women are horrible to each other. Other women have made me cry more than any man ever could. Good for any men who mess with their stupid causes and throw their little rules back in their faces.

    Oh totally, which is why I always avoid professional organizations that exists to just promote women. The women I know that are big promoters in those organizations are the most ruthless, back stabbing, B*****S. Who would sell their own grandmother to get ahead. Also, I know a few who also used sex to advance in their careers as well. I remember a friend of mine going on and on about this women we knew and how successful she was and how she started this consulting business on her own and blah blah blah. I mentioned, how that women slept with the guy who was her main investor and he helped her get her contacts to get her business started. My friend said “yea, well, I don’t like that she did that.”

    When I worked at Air France, I got a promotion that another woman in my office had also gone after. One day when I was away from my desk, my boyfriend (who later became my husband) called me, and she picked up my phone and told him I wasn’t in that day.

    • #13
    • December 18, 2019, at 1:28 PM PST
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  14. Stad Thatcher
    Stad

    Joshua Bissey (View Comment):

    Misthiocracy grudgingly (View Comment):

    Stad (View Comment):

    Mate De (View Comment):
    Oh totally, which is why I always avoid professional organizations that exists to just promote women.

    As a Fed, I remember seeing memos for meetings of Women in Government and the Society of Women Engineers. None of the female engineers I worked with were members of either group. Not only were they highly competent, but a pleasure to work with . . .

    “Woman engineer.” I’ll never understand why people think a woman engineer is a woman who is an engineer. A woman engineer, if such existed, would be someone who designs or maintains women. The closest thing to a woman engineer, aside from the Creator, would be a gynecologist.

    I guess it would be more correct to say “female” engineer, as in an engineer who happens to be a woman.

    Other than a GYN, maybe doctors who perform male-to-female sex-change operations could also be called “woman engineers” . . .

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    • December 18, 2019, at 2:20 PM PST
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  15. EB Thatcher
    EB

    RightAngles (View Comment):
    When I worked at Air France, I got a promotion that another woman in my office had also gone after. One day when I was away from my desk, my boyfriend (who later became my husband) called me, and she picked up my phone and told him I wasn’t in that day.

    Yeah. Women treating other women badly isn’t always backstabbing for work advancement. Sometimes it’s just unbelievably petty.

    Years ago there was an airline called Muse Air, started by Lamar Muse, first President and CEO of Southwest Airlines, after he left Southwest. They were the first airline to go totally non-smoking. They also only charged $10 more for first class on short flights and $50 more on a flight from Houston to LA.

    I travelled back and forth from Houston to Dallas weekly and I flew first class on Muse all the time. I liked the extra roomy seats and I also liked the smoked almonds they served in first class, instead of the peanuts in coach.

    One Friday, when the cute little flight attendant finally got around to taking my drink order (after chatting up all the men) she gave me a packet of peanuts. I said, “Gosh, did you run out of almonds?” She looked at me and said, “Oh, heh, heh,” went to the galley, and came back with some almonds. Unbelievably, petty.

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    • December 18, 2019, at 9:34 PM PST
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  16. RightAngles Member

    EB (View Comment):

    RightAngles (View Comment):
    When I worked at Air France, I got a promotion that another woman in my office had also gone after. One day when I was away from my desk, my boyfriend (who later became my husband) called me, and she picked up my phone and told him I wasn’t in that day.

    Yeah. Women treating other women badly isn’t always backstabbing for work advancement. Sometimes it’s just unbelievably petty.

    Years ago there was an airline called Muse Air, started by Lamar Muse, first President and CEO of Southwest Airlines, after he left Southwest. They were the first airline to go totally non-smoking. They also only charged $10 more for first class on short flights and $50 more on a flight from Houston to LA.

    I travelled back and forth from Houston to Dallas weekly and I flew first class on Muse all the time. I liked the extra roomy seats and I also liked the smoked almonds they served in first class, instead of the peanuts in coach.

    One Friday, when the cute little flight attendant finally got around to taking my drink order (after chatting up all the men) she gave me a packet of peanuts. I said, “Gosh, did you run out of almonds?” She looked at me and said, “Oh, heh, heh,” went to the galley, and came back with some almonds. Unbelievably, petty.

    So typical. A few years ago a group of us ex-models all met in Houston for the weekend. One night three of us split off and had dinner together; me, my frenemy fellow model, and her boyfriend. I left the table to go to the ladies’ room, and when I got back, she told me the maitre d’ (who we both had an instant crush on) had come over to our table and asked about me. She smiled sweetly and said, “I told him you’re my mom.” (She wasn’t kidding. She actually did it)

    • #16
    • December 18, 2019, at 9:48 PM PST
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  17. Stad Thatcher
    Stad

    RightAngles (View Comment):
    So typical. A few years ago a group of us ex-models all met in Houston for the weekend. One night three of us split off and had dinner together; me, my frenemy fellow model, and her boyfriend. I left the table to go to the ladies’ room, and when I got back, she told me the maitre d’ (who we both had an instant crush on) had come over to our table and asked about me. She smiled sweetly and said, “I told him you’re my mom.” (She wasn’t kidding. She actually did it)

    I hate to say it RA, but that’s funny! I’ll try it next time I go out with my friends . . .

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    • December 19, 2019, at 5:49 AM PST
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  18. Henry Castaigne Member

    RightAngles (View Comment):

    EB (View Comment):

    RightAngles (View Comment):
    When I worked at Air France, I got a promotion that another woman in my office had also gone after. One day when I was away from my desk, my boyfriend (who later became my husband) called me, and she picked up my phone and told him I wasn’t in that day.

    Yeah. Women treating other women badly isn’t always backstabbing for work advancement. Sometimes it’s just unbelievably petty.

    Years ago there was an airline called Muse Air, started by Lamar Muse, first President and CEO of Southwest Airlines, after he left Southwest. They were the first airline to go totally non-smoking. They also only charged $10 more for first class on short flights and $50 more on a flight from Houston to LA.

    I travelled back and forth from Houston to Dallas weekly and I flew first class on Muse all the time. I liked the extra roomy seats and I also liked the smoked almonds they served in first class, instead of the peanuts in coach.

    One Friday, when the cute little flight attendant finally got around to taking my drink order (after chatting up all the men) she gave me a packet of peanuts. I said, “Gosh, did you run out of almonds?” She looked at me and said, “Oh, heh, heh,” went to the galley, and came back with some almonds. Unbelievably, petty.

    So typical. A few years ago a group of us ex-models all met in Houston for the weekend. One night three of us split off and had dinner together; me, my frenemy fellow model, and her boyfriend. I left the table to go to the ladies’ room, and when I got back, she told me the maitre d’ (who we both had an instant crush on) had come over to our table and asked about me. She smiled sweetly and said, “I told him you’re my mom.” (She wasn’t kidding. She actually did it)

    Women are condemned by their genes to compete with each other for men. We are all prisoners of genes. 

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    • December 19, 2019, at 6:35 PM PST
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  19. Stad Thatcher
    Stad

    Henry Castaigne (View Comment):
    Women are condemned by their genes to compete with each other for men. We are all prisoners of genes.

    LOL! I read your second sentence as “We men are all prisoners of their genes.”

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    • December 20, 2019, at 6:03 AM PST
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  20. colleenb Member
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    Stad (View Comment):

    RightAngles (View Comment):

    Good grief. I’d never even heard of this. What a crock. And this:

    WHEN WOMEN GATHER, WE GO FURTHER, FASTER, TOGETHER.

    is a bunch of baloney. Women do not help each other, are they kidding me. Solidarity among women is a joke. Women are horrible to each other. Other women have made me cry more than any man ever could. Good for any men who mess with their stupid causes and throw their little rules back in their faces.

    Remind me never to make you angry . . .

    But seriously, I’ll bet many of the women in this club aren’t aware it was women (primarily feminists) who brought this about with court action or political pressure, women angry such things as men’s clubs existed.

    Funny statement from the article:

    “The problem, multiple members have told The Post, is that the men physically take up too much space with their bigger bodies and belongings.”

    Maybe the club should only allow pajama boys. They take up much less room, and certainly wouldn’t threaten any woman . . .

    BUT I THOUGHT MEN AND WOMEN WERE NOT DIFFERENT! How dare they notice a difference between men and women. And as a not-as-slim-as-I-was-when-I-was-younger woman, I would guess that are quite a few larger ladies in this club.

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    • December 20, 2019, at 9:08 AM PST
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  21. colleenb Member
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    I too read this article and just could not stop laughing. As many have pointed out we have the hypocrisy of (1) men and women are not different and then (2) men and women are different but (3) only women deserve a separate place. Please all men need to have their poker games at one of these places – and make sure its filled with grumpy, divorced guys who all smoke cigars and play in their underwear. 

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    • December 20, 2019, at 9:14 AM PST
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  22. Matt Bartle Member
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    Mate De (View Comment):
    What was the golf club that wouldn’t let women in for a while?

    Augusta National, where they hold the Master’s.

    Condi Rice was one of the first women to become a member.

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    • December 20, 2019, at 9:22 AM PST
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  23. colleenb Member
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    Matt Bartle (View Comment):

    Mate De (View Comment):
    What was the golf club that wouldn’t let women in for a while?

    Augusta National, where they hold the Master’s.

    Condi Rice was one of the first women to become a member.

    BUT Augusta only went with a female member on their timetable. When the feminists were trying to promote a boycott of Augusta, Augusta said we’ll air the Masters without any commercials. Hootie Johnson was the chairman of Augusta at that time and who doesn’t like a guy named Hootie!

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    • December 20, 2019, at 11:56 AM PST
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  24. Misthiocracy got drunk and Member
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    colleenb (View Comment):

    Stad (View Comment):

    RightAngles (View Comment):

    Good grief. I’d never even heard of this. What a crock. And this:

    WHEN WOMEN GATHER, WE GO FURTHER, FASTER, TOGETHER.

    is a bunch of baloney. Women do not help each other, are they kidding me. Solidarity among women is a joke. Women are horrible to each other. Other women have made me cry more than any man ever could. Good for any men who mess with their stupid causes and throw their little rules back in their faces.

    Remind me never to make you angry . . .

    But seriously, I’ll bet many of the women in this club aren’t aware it was women (primarily feminists) who brought this about with court action or political pressure, women angry such things as men’s clubs existed.

    Funny statement from the article:

    “The problem, multiple members have told The Post, is that the men physically take up too much space with their bigger bodies and belongings.”

    Maybe the club should only allow pajama boys. They take up much less room, and certainly wouldn’t threaten any woman . . .

    BUT I THOUGHT MEN AND WOMEN WERE NOT DIFFERENT! How dare they notice a difference between men and women. And as a not-as-slim-as-I-was-when-I-was-younger woman, I would guess that are quite a few larger ladies in this club.

    There’s no need to be confused. The rule is quite simple. Women are different from men when difference can be interpreted as empowering, and women are the same as men when difference can be interpreted as limiting.

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    • December 20, 2019, at 12:28 PM PST
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  25. MarciN Member

    I’m surprised at the number of books on the market, especially in the business books sections (top of that list is Sheryl Sandberg’s bestseller Lean In), that are geared to women rather than men and women. First of all, I always think the transgender people will come after the authors and publishers: what’s a “woman” these days? :-) But second, how is it a moneymaker to write and publish for men only or women only in a mixed-sex business world? Geesh.

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    • December 20, 2019, at 12:42 PM PST
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  26. Stad Thatcher
    Stad

    Matt Bartle (View Comment):

    Matt Bartle (View Comment):

    Mate De (View Comment):
    What was the golf club that wouldn’t let women in for a while?

    Augusta National, where they hold the Master’s.

    Condi Rice was one of the first women to become a member.

    Darla Moore was the other. She’s big in South Carolina . . .

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    • December 20, 2019, at 1:52 PM PST
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